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Netflix app

Anyone able to get the netflix app off the LG Revolution?
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Ohh, I want it too!
Hopefully this means we will be getting it soon (hacked or official). Apparently, you can have up to 6 devices linked to one Netflix account. So I will be able to watch using my wife's Netflix account.

Please oh please oh please!

I hope soon, I've been waiting fooorrreverrrr for this!
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That's a quick way to reach your alloted 5gb of 4g data!

yeah, sucks having to tether to an ipod touch to get your netflix content while away from a Wi Fi source. Might be the only reason why I haven't sold my ipod actually, the netflix app.

I would be happy with just a Netflix app that solely provides the opportunity to search for movies and manage your queues, not for watching movies on the G2 (although that would be sweet).

dustrho said:
I would be happy with just a Netflix app that solely provides the opportunity to search for movies and manage your queues, not for watching movies on the G2 (although that would be sweet).
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Umm, they already have that.

redpoint73 said:
Umm, they already have that.
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Care to share which one is actually worth using? I've tried a couple and they're not really good. I'm looking for one designed by Netflix, not some 3rd party developer.

as far as i know android hasnt received love from netflix due to security and piracy concerns. Dated November 13th (short article BTW)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/13/netflix-headed-to-select-android-devices-early-next-year/#

androinica claims they have seen the Netflix app on an LG Revolution. But where can I get it for my G2?

I've about had it with Netflix and their crappy movie line up anyways. They charge you $8.99 a month (which is fair) but then they offer so few good available and the others are dvd only. Then they "fix" this issue by charging you more dvds out at a time to make up for it. Its just about screwing over folks and milking them for the $20, 30, or 40 plan. I wish they would just upload all digital streaming and offer dvd to those old fashioned folks who actually want it. Plus, their reasoning for not offering their app on android is ludicious.... I hope something better comes along soon

Damn peoples. You gotta be patient. How are people going to pull and share the Netflix app when they just figured it out recently that one exists for Android. I mean don't get me wrong, I want the app as much as the next person but its not going to magically appear. Let the Android community do its magic. I don't even think people even got to mess with the phone yet let alone the Netflix app.
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History of android phones has shown that apps from pre-release dumps and leaks from upcoming phones as well as preview phones have found their way to xda before a phones release. It isn't too far fetched nor unreasonable to have a little expectation that it may have happened or will in this case
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sino8r said:
I've about had it with Netflix and their crappy movie line up anyways. They charge you $8.99 a month (which is fair) but then they offer so few good available and the others are dvd only. Then they "fix" this issue by charging you more dvds out at a time to make up for it. Its just about screwing over folks and milking them for the $20, 30, or 40 plan. I wish they would just upload all digital streaming and offer dvd to those old fashioned folks who actually want it. Plus, their reasoning for not offering their app on android is ludicious.... I hope something better comes along soon
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I was under the impression that one of the main reason Netflix has not come to Android is because of the backbone of Netflix streaming, which is M$ Silverlight
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sino8r said:
I've about had it with Netflix and their crappy movie line up anyways. They charge you $8.99 a month (which is fair) but then they offer so few good available and the others are dvd only. Then they "fix" this issue by charging you more dvds out at a time to make up for it. Its just about screwing over folks and milking them for the $20, 30, or 40 plan. I wish they would just upload all digital streaming and offer dvd to those old fashioned folks who actually want it. Plus, their reasoning for not offering their app on android is ludicious.... I hope something better comes along soon
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Its not netflix - its pressure from hollywood and the studio execs for both the lack of streaming titles and the android app/"drm" concerns. And let's not forget that apple has their tentacles deep in hollywood cuz of their involvement with pixar and apple tv (jobs was the ceo of pixar).
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Yeah, that sounds about right about the lack of complete library streams. Other the other matter, I'm sure ports will be on the way. The only issue I foresee is linking the account to the device if its ported. Might be a pain to get the port properly to avoid that issue...

I'd greatly appreciate a netflix app for my g2. I'm jealous of the iphones netflix app. -__-
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dustrho said:
I would be happy with just a Netflix app that solely provides the opportunity to search for movies and manage your queues, not for watching movies on the G2 (although that would be sweet).
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You mean, like QueueMan for Netflix??

sundar2012 said:
Its not netflix - its pressure from hollywood and the studio execs for both the lack of streaming titles and the android app/"drm" concerns. And let's not forget that apple has their tentacles deep in hollywood cuz of their involvement with pixar and apple tv (jobs was the ceo of pixar).
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I am personally inclined to believe it has more to do with Apple's influence/blackmail than the pirating issue. It seems far fetched that someone would resort to a phone stream to pirate movies or shows.

For those wanting DSLR like controls!!

Check it out! I have the lite version installed but am going to buy the full version to give it a shot. It has pretty much all of the controls many of us have been looking for. If anybody has the used the full version and has some input/review, please post it.

Just downloaded it. I like it.
The shutter speed was 1/50th on a few pictures but how do i manual change the shutter speed to my liking?

Been wanting something like this for a while. Very nice, gonna be experimenting with it today.
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Hmm, I will try, but something tells me I want to still use my 2 dlsrs and my L-Glass...

Wow this is even better than the HTCCamera app on my Amaze. Awesome thanks for sharing!
Had to get the paid version...well worth the money! I love the AF-L (AutoFocus Lock) feature!

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Hmm, I will try, but something tells me I want to still use my 2 dlsrs and my L-Glass...
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Orly?

Reminds me of Shot Control.
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I downloaded it, even the paid version because only it supports capture resolutions over 640x480.
Photo quality was no better than stock Android app which was a big disappointment for something that would save in PNG format.
Didn't have the option for a refund unfortunately. (Within 15 minutes - why?) Thanks Google, your lack of refund guarantees I'll never purchase an app again. Way to tank your model.

haydonxda said:
I downloaded it, even the paid version because only it supports capture resolutions over 640x480.
Photo quality was no better than stock Android app which was a big disappointment for something that would save in PNG format.
Didn't have the option for a refund unfortunately. (Within 15 minutes - why?) Thanks Google, your lack of refund guarantees I'll never purchase an app again. Way to tank your model.
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It took you more than 15 minutes to try out a camera app? O___o
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haydonxda said:
Didn't have the option for a refund unfortunately. (Within 15 minutes - why?)
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I've had this happen before; the only way I was able to make refund show up was to clear market data, relaunch Play, and refund was then available.

haydonxda said:
Didn't have the option for a refund unfortunately. (Within 15 minutes - why?) Thanks Google, your lack of refund guarantees I'll never purchase an app again. Way to tank your model.
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Really? so there's a app for <$5.... not going to buy that either?
It's the same thing in life, you buy food or some kind of electronic. Sometimes you don't like it after purchase. Too bad. But don't dictate the remaining purchases based on one bad experience.

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I've had this happen before; the only way I was able to make refund show up was to clear market data, relaunch Play, and refund was then available.
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Thanks. I tried researching it as the few minutes I had remaining ticked away but ultimately lost the race.
It felt like a movie with the big LED countdown timer running connected to the WMD flavor du jour.
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Really? so there's a app for <$5.... not going to buy that either?
It's the same thing in life, you buy food or some kind of electronic. Sometimes you don't like it after purchase. Too bad. But don't dictate the remaining purchases based on one bad experience.
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Huh? You read my post but didn't understand? It was not buyers remorse. I was within the refund period. The Market^H^H^H^H^H^H Play Store failed to work as advertised.
I don't trust the Play store now and won't do business with it.
I should amend this to say that I will purchase apps that I am 100% certain I want. But I will not speculate or "try" anything any longer.

haydonxda said:
Huh? You read my post but didn't understand? It was not buyers remorse. I was within the refund period. The Market^H^H^H^H^H^H Play Store failed to work as advertised.
I don't trust the Play store now and won't do business with it.
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So you're going to resort to stealing apps now? or buying apps from Amazon's App Store with slow updates?
You should be HAPPY that Google even OFFERED a refund window even if it "didn't work" for you. No one is entitled to give you a refund, not even stores. Apple's App Store doesn't offer a refund at all.
There is something called customer service. Contact Google's Play Store or the DEV HIMSELF. And the dev can offer a refund (this has been confirmed many times, a dev can give you a refund).

zephiK said:
So you're going to resort to stealing apps now?
You should be HAPPY that Google even OFFERED a refund window. No one is entitled to give you a refund, not even stores. Apple's App Store doesn't offer a refund at all.
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Ugh. Really? You're now attacking me and not even comprehending what I'm saying. I'm going to steal now? Are you nuts?
Why should I be HAPPY? I wasn't OFFERED a refund at all.
I was entitled to a refund per Play Store policy and I didn't get it. What part of that don't you understand? They wrote the rules and didn't comply.
There's one thing you managed to be right about. I wouldn't have made the speculative purchase on iTunes because they don't offer refunds.
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zephiK said:
There is something called customer service. Contact Google's Play Store or the DEV HIMSELF. And the dev can offer a refund (this has been confirmed many times, a dev can give you a refund).
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Not worth my time for $4 and neither is replying to you any more.
Lesson learned. Moving on.

haydonxda said:
Ugh. Really? You're now attacking me and not even comprehending what I'm saying. I'm going to steal now? Are you nuts?
Why should I be HAPPY? I wasn't OFFERED a refund at all.
I was entitled to a refund per Play Store policy and I didn't get it. What part of that don't you understand? They wrote the rules and didn't comply.
There's one thing you managed to be right about. I wouldn't have made the speculative purchase on iTunes because they don't offer refunds.
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Not worth my time for $4 and neither is replying to you any more.
Lesson learned. Moving on.
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No I'm not nuts. There are always angry customers but you shouldn't just RESORT to not buying ANY APPS based on ONE bad experience. If you attempted to contact the dev / Play Store customer service and nothing worked, then you logically have a "somewhat" better explanation on why you're "boycotting the Play Store."
You should be HAPPY that Google even OFFERS A REFUND. Whereas, other App Stores such as Apple's App Store / Amazon doesn't even offer you a refund. Google could of set up the Market/Play Store without any refund but they did it anyway even it's not the perfect system. People make mistakes. This is why I told you to CONTACT the developer to issue you a refund (they can do this! its been shown)
If that $4 wasn't worth your time then I don't understand why you have to boycott the Play Store due to one bad experience without even trying to contact the dev for him/her to issue a refund
Also Chris before complaining you could of went to his website, the dev seems very commited to supporting his app. It's unfair to devs if you judge a "work in progress" app as a final product. A free version of the app was also included, http://www.camera.flavionet.com/support.php
I usually reply in less than 24 hours, and I'm always committed to solve the problem, when it is within my reach.
You can also write me to [email protected] with suggestions and improvements. I really listen to customers and I try to add new features based on users feedback.
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So yeah you would of received your refund quickly.

zephiK said:
If that $4 wasn't worth your time then I don't understand why you have to boycott the Play Store due to one bad experience without even trying to contact the dev for him/her to issue a refund
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This. Every dev I've ever emailed asking for a refund has been very responsive - devs can even issue refunds after the 15-minute window. Emailing a dev is a lot less time-consuming than driving back to a store to return a product you decide you don't want (because it doesn't do things it never claimed to do...). Quitchabitchin until you have made a good-faith effort to resolve the issue, rather than coming here to spout about how horrible the Play Store is.
Another hint - contacting the dev will do more about the problem than venting here. Just so you know.

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Reminds me of Shot Control.
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Which do you think is better. Haven't had the chance to test both

Sample photos?
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zephiK said:
No I'm not nuts. There are always angry customers but you shouldn't just RESORT to not buying ANY APPS based on ONE bad experience. If you attempted to contact the dev / Play Store customer service and nothing worked, then you logically have a "somewhat" better explanation on why you're "boycotting the Play Store."
You should be HAPPY that Google even OFFERS A REFUND. Whereas, other App Stores such as Apple's App Store / Amazon doesn't even offer you a refund. Google could of set up the Market/Play Store without any refund but they did it anyway even it's not the perfect system. People make mistakes. This is why I told you to CONTACT the developer to issue you a refund (they can do this! its been shown)
If that $4 wasn't worth your time then I don't understand why you have to boycott the Play Store due to one bad experience without even trying to contact the dev for him/her to issue a refund
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The Play Store didn't work as it should and I'm limiting my exposure to it in the future. Logical response if you ask me. I don't enjoy attempting to claw back money thanks to billing issues, failure to deliver service, "oh the system had a problem", etc every time it happens. When it does I consider those entities unreliable and stop doing business with them. (Unless I have no real alternatives like TV/Internet/phone.)
If the Play Store didn't offer a refund I wouldn't have purchased the app. I appreciate that they do offer a refund to check for compatibility, does the app work as intended, etc. What I don't appreciate is that system not reliable.
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Also Chris before complaining you could of went to his website, the dev seems very commited to supporting his app. It's unfair to devs if you judge a "work in progress" app as a final product. A free version of the app was also included, http://www.camera.flavionet.com/support.php
So yeah you would of received your refund quickly.
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The dev got his $4 and I'm no longer going to use the App Store for purchases that I'm not 100% certain I want. You have a different philosophy and you're free to spend as much time as you like dealing with customer service, different developers, etc as you like. My philosophy is different and I'm going to deal with the Play Store less.
We're all entitled to make our own decisions on how to spend our money and somehow how I spend my money has become the topic rather than the app itself.
The app doesn't look too much like a work in progress. Just another camera app with a few neat controls. It's no iPhone 645 PRO app. That would have been worth paying quite a bit more for.
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This. Every dev I've ever emailed asking for a refund has been very responsive - devs can even issue refunds after the 15-minute window. Emailing a dev is a lot less time-consuming than driving back to a store to return a product you decide you don't want (because it doesn't do things it never claimed to do...). Quitchabitchin until you have made a good-faith effort to resolve the issue, rather than coming here to spout about how horrible the Play Store is.
Another hint - contacting the dev will do more about the problem than venting here. Just so you know.
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My post's intention was to let people know that this app did not improve photo quality. I said as much. I've been critical of the GN camera and was hoping that saving in a lossless format would have improved the camera output. It didn't. And because it didn't I don't feel it's worth $4.
However, instead of that, the only thing people appeared to be interested in is my comment about Google's Play Store borking my refund and my how I was going to deal with that in the future.
"quitchabitchin"? I'm not *****in. My problem is resolved. The problem it seems is that YOU don't like how I resolved it. If no one responded to the point about how I decide to spend my money this thread would be a lot shorter and a lot more informative.
My beef isn't with the developer and I have no intention of trying to contact him/her because the Play Store broke. Not their fault and I'm changing how I deal with the Play Store, not the app developer. I fail to see how that isn't clear?
BTW, this "getting burned" has warned me off of anything Samsung phone related as well. And quite a few other products. Unless these companies resolve their issues they've lost a customer and I steer people to products that work for me and I find reliable.

No offense, but I rather hear about the app than the hissy fit between you, the play store, and zephik. Take it to PMs guys.
Just sayin.

why didnt google just combine nexus q with google tv

What the point of having two seperate devices. I really want to get the new Google TV set box and I've been wanting to be able to stream from my tablet and phone directly to the TV for a while now. Why not just either add Google TV to the q or add the q functions to Google TV. Now I'm going to have to get the Sony Google TV set box and nexus q.
Also, side questions. Does anyone know if you can stream movies on the phone/tablet to the nexus q if its stored on the device and not Google play?

Google is going after Sonos it seems. However, the Q is strange (requires a Android phone/tablet to control it) and over priced. I really don't see a huge market for it unless they drop the price by a few hundred dollars.

Aye, for that much cash, I'd have thought it'd have more GoogleTV like features, unless this is just a Trojan Horse into the living room and those things can be added later (though without an hdmi input, that'll be interesting to see how).
No, I admit, I just don't 'get it' as a device when a GTv will do the same stuff, plus more, just without the amp. There's something missing in all this it feels like.

That's kinda what I meant, but didn't say. $300 to just stream video and music from play store is kinda stupid. $300 for Google TV that can do it= awesome

$300
Running on Galaxy Nexus hardware.
Only streams YouTube, Google Play Videos/Music.
Runs 'Android' but seems to have no real use beyond the line immediately above this one.
According to the data we have so far (that above), the Nexus Q seems to me to be a failure of Google to have any real vision if they intend to get into our living rooms. Honestly? No applications, no Netflix, nothing. Just YouTube and Google Play music/videos? That's pathetic. For $300? That's not just pathetic, that's an insult.
That is, unless Google is hiding more functionality in their sleeve. Which, if they have any intelligence at all (which we know they do), they most certainly haven't shown everything they intend to do with it yet. Although I could be wrong...give me this great looking device running on solid hardware and the full functionality of Android on my TV with my phone/tablet as a remote? Yeah, I'll spend $300 on it. Leave it as displayed so far? No thanks.

No Hulu, no Netflix, no local steaming. No buyers.

The reason for the price being $299 is due to it being 100% made in the US.
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Worth it
I think it is pretty neat personally. I own a sony google TV and wish it had some of these features, but this thing is so king for parties. I also really like the fact that it is American made. Whenever you are talking about companies like Apple getting rich off of worker suicides at foxconn.

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I think it is pretty neat personally. I own a sony google TV and wish it had some of these features, but this thing is so king for parties. I also really like the fact that it is American made. Whenever you are talking about companies like Apple getting rich off of worker suicides at foxconn.
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You sir are so right. Koush said on Google+ last night he has no use for it but will buy it solely because its made in America and gift it to someone. I commend Google for this move and will buy one too. Everyone claims to want their **** manufactured here, well prove it if so and step up and buy one, I will. That price designed, made and assembled here to me is worth it for the features it boasts.
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You sir are so right. Koush said on Google+ last night he has no use for it but will buy it solely because its made in America and gift it to someone. I commend Google for this move and will buy one too. Everyone claims to want their **** manufactured here, well prove it if so and step up and buy one, I will. That price designed, made and assembled here to me is worth it for the features it boasts.
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kudos for making the device here. now all they need to do is make it a device I would want in the first place.
if the thing turns out to be less locked-down and more hackable than the google tv products, then I can see some serious potential.

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No Hulu, no Netflix, no local steaming. No buyers.
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Tell that to Sonos. Unfortunately, this is a high end market and I'm not sure how it can work given it requires a Android ecosystem.

I agree with what everyone else has said. It'd be a hard sell to make since it doesn't (as of now) have any support for third parties such as Netflix and Pandora. However, Google has encouraged "hacking" the device... so maybe they will leave such capabilities to people such as XDA devs to really put this device to use? Kind of a stretch, but it could add utility to the device without Google having to officially sign on board with third parties?

I appreciate this is manufactured here in the US but boy oh boy.
I would really like to see my Logitech Revue get revamped, even though I only paid $120 for it at Best Buy to get that and the camera I would like to see it get some updates in features. (cough cough SKYPE support)
This thing though, I could see it being nice to have on your desk or something? I don't get the connecting it to a TV thing unless you plan on using a home theater system.
We'll wait and see.
but that thing in the video where all the people are in the kitchen talking and everyones picking songs for the Nexus Q to play, that would just be irritating. No don't touch it, you can look at it. Don't change my song please. Leave it the fck alone.

I bet it's going to be a hacker's delight. If it was priced a little more sensibly, I would have bought it.

What if this turns into the next generation GoogleTV by developers? Imagine running latest version of CM on your TV? Now, that $300 isn't looking so bad after all.
You better belive some developers are drooling over this great hardware. Cyanogen said so himself on G+. Let's wait and see......
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So what I could gather from the press conference is that it's a galaxy nexus without the screen, cell capability, storage space... but a proper hdmi output and usb...
maybe if it could be hacked to run an operating system off a thumb drive? I love Google tv but the hardware is so slow and low on memory... I dunno, but the "to make it open to general hackability" statement does show promise.
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[Q] Anyone get Amazon Instant Video to work?

Anyone able to stream Amazon Instant Video on the Galaxy Note 8? The usual side load flash and a compatible browser isn't working.
I have tried loading four different versions of Flash for ICS as well as Dolphin Browser 8.51 which supports Flash, the stock browser, Firefox HD with the Phony extension set to Desktop and Boat Browser. None of them work. Flash 11.1 loads but once you get past loading and connecting at Amazon, all you get is a black screen. The video never starts.
I'm still within my return period on the Note 8. I may jump ship to a Nexus 7 if I can't get this to work.

Same experience for me. I've tried stock and ×Scope Pro.
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Amazon must have altered something on their side. Its no longer working on my Nexus 7 or Nexus 4 either. This just started happening within the last week or so.

Wow. I guess Amazon doesn't want our business. If they did this on purpose I am canceling Prime and won't be buying anything else from them. I can't believe they would intentionally take away the means to sell their products with a healthy margin, in order to sell a product with little to no margin (Kindle). Stupid move. Whatever. I can buy stuff from Google and Newegg and others instead.
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I wonder how long Amazon will keep the iOS app around... And if they'll ever offer the same for android users... And why they don't.
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I wonder how long Amazon will keep the iOS app around... And if they'll ever offer the same for android users... And why they don't.
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Everything worked fine until a few day ago.
The reason there is no app or official support is complicated. All of these things like Hulu+ & Amazon VOD have specific licensing agreements with greeeeedy networks. These networks messed up big time in their minds by not finding a way to restrict content on old PC, laptops & desktop PC's & now they are trying to make up for it.
Now they are trying to extort as much money in licensing from everybody they can. They want you to pay as a subscriber, they want the OEM manufacturer to pay & they want Google to pay. Now they have the chance to determine EXACTLY what type of device you are using & discriminate based on that info as a means to extort more money from everyone. If you use a tablet, you can watch SOME Hulu+ shows, if you have a PC, you can watch SOME Hulu+ shows, If you have a Hulu+ licensed device with the Hulu+ app, like a media streaming player, you can watch ALL of their shows.
SImilarly with Amazon now, if you are using a Windows PC or Tablet, you get full PC Flash support, which means you get Amazon VOD, if you have an Android device, you get nothing now, because Flash killed off support & Amazon never had official support.
Even worse, you can get Hulu on just about ANY browser in the world, unless it is a browser on a Google TV device. This is because of the licensing agreements between the middlemen like Amazon & Hulu & the greedy & scared networks, whom are losing advertising revenue because people would rather watch older shows that took thought over their current mindless, low budget reality TV. The networks think you should pay a subscription & everyone involved with a device, even a carrier if there is one, should pay licensing fees & you should be forced to watch commercials, which is why they are also suing Dish Network for their "Hopper" feature, which lets you easily hop past commercials.
There is an iOS app because there were a lot of iOS users & they are more active about complaining & petitioning people than Android users are. Technically, I think we should all be complaining about this because of the Net Neutrality Act. They are discriminating based on browser, limiting choice & options for consumers. They stream their shows to PC's, but tablets are different in their mind, just as they say streaming to a Google TV BluRay player is different than streaming to your TV from your windows PC. It is a common task, using the internet & I don't think they should be allowed to make the rules in regards to what is a PC (which stands for personal computer) & in my mind a tablet can most definitely fit into that category.
WOrse even yet, damn Amazon has made good money taking Google's hard work & forking Android, yet they crap on the Amazon customers that use true Android. Plain old browser discrimination, if you ask me.

Thanks for the well though out response.
What I still fail to understand is how Amazon can justify streaming to an Android based Kindle fire, but not to an Android tablet. This is why I have stopped my prime membership from automatically renewing. And without Prime, I will be MUCH less likely to order anything from Amazon. I can't find the business sense or logic in this decision. It seems counter productive to me.
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Amazon claims we can access Amazon Instant Video through XBMC. I will try this later when I have time. Their response to my complaint also sounds like they may be working on an app for Android? No promises or timeline, but I am definitely getting that impression(?). I've copied both their letter and my complaint below (names removed). It's a quickly thrown together complaint, not the best written, but gets the point across I think. I encourage you all to write to them as well, to indicate your interest in streaming to Android tablets. The more interest they see, the more likely for them to put effort into enabling content on Android devices.
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Message From Customer Service
Hello ,
Thanks for writing to us with your query. I'll do my best to provide a thorough answer.
From your email, I've understood that you unhappy that you are not able to access Amazon Instant Videos on "Android" devices any more.
Unfortunately at this time, Amazon does not support Amazon/Prime Instant Videos on android devices.
However, customers were able to watch Amazon Instant Videos on their android devices using XBMC Player app. Amazon Instant Video utilizes the Adobe Flash Player but due to the recent changes/upgrade of the flash version made by Adobe, closed that loophole.
I also understand that having "AIV/PIV" feature on "Android" devices will provide additional convenience to our customers. However, please note that, the content we offer through Amazon Instant Video depends on our agreements with content owners. Device manufacturers has exclusive rights to the hardware and software that would not make it possible for Amazon.com to provide Amazon Instant Videos for these devices directly.
To make sure your feedback is heard by the right people in the Organization, I've forwarded your comments as a feedback to Amazon Instant Video Development Team, who will review your comments and will work on improvements to make these features better on Amazon.com
We've received many requests from the customers to release an Android app for Instant Video streaming and our development team is working on it
I also keep pushing for this feature myself. It is an important part of upcoming developments in our Amazon Instant Videos service. I appreciate that you wrote about this so that I can point out increasing demand for it. As this involves may teams and individuals, I'm unable to predict the current time-line.
It is always important for us to hear how customers react to all aspects. I appreciate that you wrote about this so that I can point out increased demand for Amazon/Prime Instant Videos on Android devices. Your valuable feedback will help us to improve the selection and service we provide and we're glad you took time to write to us. We do value the feedback of our customers and make every attempt to integrate their comments or suggestions into our stores and procedures.
Amazon Instant Video development team is regularly in touch with the manufacturers to make more devices (OR Models) compatible with Amazon/Prime Instant Videos. Devices not compatible now, may become compatible in future.
You may have noticed some major wins for our customers, now that XBox 360, iPad, iPhone, iPod touch, Wii & Wiiu became compatible recently with more to come based on customer requests. With that kind of proliferation there's a significant increase in pressure to get more devices/models added.* If there is any update it will be directly posted on our website.
-----If you still need any further assistance related to Amazon Instant Video, then please contact us via phone, chat or email by using the link below, so we can help you appropriately.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/contact-us/digital-video.html
Please know that our customer's satisfaction and their convenience is very important to us above all else, it's the foundation on which our company was built.
I would've really loved to have this resolved to your benefit if only there was another way however as I hope you'd understand, we do go through certain protocols and processes to hopefully meet your needs in the best and fastest way possible.
I am very sorry that we were not able to meet your expectations this time but be assured that we always endeavor to assist our valued customer like you with the best of our service and we'll continue working hard to ensure that we provide the quality support you expect from us.
Thank you for your interest in Amazon Instant Videos. We appreciate your patience in this matter and thanks for the time you took to write to us.
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04/23/13 15:45:48
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Comments:I am an Amazon Prime member. I have ordered over $8,500 purchases in the last 6 months.
I have used my Prime account for a year and a half. During this time I have accessed Prime videos on my Android based tablet. This apparently is no longer available. Therefore I have stopped my Prime membership from automatically renewing. I'm sure you are aware that the Prime membership has encouraged me to make more of my purchases from Amazon. I'm sure you will understand that without Prime, I will be shopping elsewhere.
I am aware that Amazon Instant Video can be accessed on the Kindle Fire, which is another Android tablet. Not allowing the same access on competing Android tablets is alienating your customers. It gives an impression of discriminating in favor of your own device.
I am aware that Amazon Instant Video is available on IOS tablets. I have an iPad 3. However I do not like to watch videos on a 4:3 aspect ratio device. I have Amazon Instant Video available on my TV, my Roku, and on my Vizio Co-Star Google TV device. My preferred method of streaming videos when not sitting Iin my living room is still by using my Android tablet. The perception that Amazon is discriminating against competing Android products is why I will not be renewing my Prime account, and why Amazon will lose over $10,000 worth of business per year from just this one customer.
I ask you to ask your business development department just one question;
"Was disabling content from Android devices worth losing over $10,000 per year per customer worth it? Is loosing more than $10,000 per year per customer a good strategy?"
I am aware that Amazon never did officially support Amazon Instant Video on Android tablets. However, unofficial support was enough to encourage me and doubtless others to sign up for Prime and increase their spending. The loss of this unofficial support will result in not only the loss of the new business it has created, but loss of the limited business we have had with Amazon prior to Prime membership.
If I was a stock holder, I would have to question Amazon's business strategy and future.
As a customer, I only have to choose another supplier. It is a shame. I have enjoyed many Amazon products and services over the years.
Regards,
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WARNING about XBMC
Hey...be careful with installing XBMC. I did and now my system won't unlock.
I sideloaded the latest nightly of XMBC and was refreshing repository when it froze. Now I get to the lockscreen, there is an indication that "power saving mode is enabled" and it freezes within 10 seconds of unlocking/startup. May just be coincidental...
I am rooted via framaroot.apk.
EDIT: Ended up having to reboot into the stock recovery and reset the device to factory to get out the of loop. And I returned it to the store.

Thanks for the heads up, much appreciated. I will try it on an older tablet I don't mind resetting. I can't take that chance on the Note 8, I'm already heavily relying on it at work.
FYI I already tried Plex (which is similar to XBMC), but the Amazon plug in does not work. I also tried the Amazon plugin for Playon, and I can get further with that; I can see the list of categories of movies and tv shows, but I have not successfully streamed anything so far. I suspect it will not work, but I need to try some more before I give up.
PSsisterchick: wait with the purchase of the Nexus 7, Google is rumored to announce the next generation of the Nexus 7 in 3 weeks at Google I/O. It's only a rumor, but a likely one.
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kisrita said:
Thanks for the heads up, much appreciated. I will try it on an older tablet I don't mind resetting. I can't take that chance on the Note 8, I'm already heavily relying on it at work.
FYI I already tried Plex (which is similar to XBMC), but the Amazon plug in does not work. I also tried the Amazon plugin for Playon, and I can get further with that; I can see the list of categories of movies and tv shows, but I have not successfully streamed anything so far. I suspect it will not work, but I need to try some more before I give up.
PSsisterchick: wait with the purchase of the Nexus 7, Google is rumored to announce the next generation of the Nexus 7 in 3 weeks at Google I/O. It's only a rumor, but a likely one.
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Thanks, kisirta. That's what I'm thinking too. Nightlies of CM 10.1 have just come out for my old modded Nook Color. I'll put the old girl back to work until we see what happens at Goodle I/O.

Well I can confirm that Amazon Instant Video does not work through XBMC either. In trying to install the Amazon Instant Video plugin for XBMC, I came across many, many forum posts and articles about how it used to work, but Amazon "fixed it" so it no longer works. It appears Amazon thought I was another XBMC user complaining about the access that was cut off. Since I had said nothing about XBMC, I thought they were telling me that some people were using XBMC to stream Amazon videos successfully, but it appears the reference just a cut and paste canned response to the XBMC users who previously had been streaming Amazon videos, and were complaining that they couldn't do so any more. And I actually thought Amazon was trying to do something about the loss of access. They apparently do not care. They are obviously receiving many complaints, and they can't do better than cut and paste responses aimed at a completely different group of people. I guess I had given them more credit than they deserve. No more Amazon for me. I'm thoroughly disgusted with them.
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I've been writing amazon for a long time asking for an app. I'd become accustomed to watching through the stock browser with mobile flash, but there was always a tiny loss of audio/video sync that was just bad enough to annoy that was never present when I had the old fire apk running on a Nook Tablet. I wasn't angry at the time, then they cut off browser access a few days ago, despite promising on their device page that any computer with an internet connection could access prime streaming. Well guess what, my transformer is a computer with an internet connection. Promise broken.
When I told them off for neglecting an android app and then actively and hostilely blocking perfectly capable browsers just because they were on android, they thanked me for my suggestion that android browser support be added to prime streaming :facepalm:

Puffin browser seems to work. At least it starts the video anyway. Some comments at the Nexus 7 forum indicate it is choppy, I don't know if it will play any better on our devices, I can't test it right now. But I can confirm that it is able to at least start the video.
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Interesting...curious to know if Puffin will work for you. I returned by Note 8 to the store because it was acting unstable and getting pretty hot in the process and I was within my 15-day window at Best Buy...but I miss it. I found I really liked the pen. I may have to give it another chance.

I tried it on both the Note 8 and my ancient original Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Puffin browser does stream the video, but it's choppy on both devices, though much much less so on the Note 8. The audio was badly out of synch on both devices, so much so that I only watched a few minutes of the video (Nemesis). This is not an acceptable alternative.
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I was able to stream a non HD Amazon Instant Video TV episode to the Note 8 using Playon. It is a little slow going at first and stuttered initially, but then was streaming good quality. I dont know if pause, rewind and FF work, I didnt test those. Just wanted to let everyone know there is this option. (Technicaly Puffin is another option, but it's not good enough to be worth it.) Neither app is free, but both come with a trial. You must have Playon installed and running on your PC to stream to your Android tablet.
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Install xbmc. Not only does it do amazon prime without problems, you get the benefit of much more content. Do a google search for xbmc and you will have to sideload. Enjoy...
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tremblayb said:
Install xbmc. Not only does it do amazon prime without problems, you get the benefit of much more content. Do a google search for xbmc and you will have to sideload. Enjoy...
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Just to confirm...you installed XBMC on Note 8 and streamed Amazon Instant Video? When tried a couple of weeks ago it didn't work.

Wow, I stand corrected. I just went in and tried it again in xbmc and it appears that amazon is now blocking it. Bastards... oh well, back to drawing board. Sorry for the confusion but I had it working on ipad, samsung galaxy note and appletv. Sorry for the confusion...
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[Q] Prime Music is here! Update coming?

Prime Music is finally here, I wonder if an update for the Fire Tv is near? I can't seem to find any music option on my Fire Tv, I guess my update block must be working...hopefully some other way to get access without unblocking.

I put my money on an update coming June 18th. That's the day Amazon is launching their smartphone. I'd imagine the Fire TV will interact with the phone in some way, so the Fire TV will need to be updated. We'll probably get Prime Music, CloudPlayer, and FreeTime along with smartphone interaction capabilities all at the same time.

fireTVnews.com said:
I put my money on an update coming June 18th. That's the day Amazon is launching their smartphone. I'd imagine the Fire TV will interact with the phone in some way, so the Fire TV will need to be updated. We'll probably get Prime Music, CloudPlayer, and FreeTime along with smartphone interaction capabilities all at the same time.
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Amazon is making a smartphone? My iPhone 5 is aging rapidly and I've more or less decided to ditch iOS next round...maybe I'll have a looksee at their new product.

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Amazon is making a smartphone? My iPhone 5 is aging rapidly and I've more or less decided to ditch iOS next round...maybe I'll have a looksee at their new product.
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A better bet would be the M8 or Nexus 5(6 maybe?). Amazon smartphone will have a pretty limited market where as the others will have Google Play store and Amazon App store if you want.

CiDhed said:
A better bet would be the M8 or Nexus 5(6 maybe?). Amazon smartphone will have a pretty limited market where as the others will have Google Play store and Amazon App store if you want.
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I appreciate the tip! I've grown incredibly tired of Apple's bull**** and the iTunes App Store's insane restrictive policies. I want a phone that isn't locked down like the stock iOS is. It's frustrating as hell.

deanemj said:
I appreciate the tip! I've grown incredibly tired of Apple's bull**** and the iTunes App Store's insane restrictive policies. I want a phone that isn't locked down like the stock iOS is. It's frustrating as hell.
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Kindles are pretty locked down compared to standard Android phones. Go Nexus or someone with factory bootloader unlock support for the best experience. The M8 is a great stepping stone into the world of Android phones for people coming from the iPhone. Like I said, you can use Amazon Music, Amazon App Store, Google Music, Google Play Store and just about everything other than Amazon Prime Video on a standard Android phone.
It looks like iOS is making some much needed improvements in the next release. Hopefully they get it right, competition is great for us.

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A better bet would be the M8 or Nexus 5(6 maybe?). Amazon smartphone will have a pretty limited market where as the others will have Google Play store and Amazon App store if you want.
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deanemj said:
I appreciate the tip! I've grown incredibly tired of Apple's bull**** and the iTunes App Store's insane restrictive policies. I want a phone that isn't locked down like the stock iOS is. It's frustrating as hell.
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CiDhed said:
Kindles are pretty locked down compared to standard Android phones. Go Nexus or someone with factory bootloader unlock support for the best experience. The M8 is a great stepping stone into the world of Android phones for people coming from the iPhone. Like I said, you can use Amazon Music, Amazon App Store, Google Music, Google Play Store and just about everything other than Amazon Prime Video on a standard Android phone.
It looks like iOS is making some much needed improvements in the next release. Hopefully they get it right, competition is great for us.
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Perhaps creating a new thread on phones or pm'ing each other might be a better option than derailing this one? Nothing personal, just seems to be happening a lot around here.
To stay on topic, has anyone had any luck with getting prime music to work on the fire tv? I was able to sideload and update the app, but it doesn't seem to be working well...