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Hey All
Basically I'm in Australia, on Telstra, and have used my brand new Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant that I bought from a website (Bell version) and it's died. DOA. The black screen internal sd failure.
So, I'm looking for another phone. I'm looking at the Defy. I like how it's like bulletproof (not literally, just I call robust and strong things this lol), it's small, and apparently a battery saver & a very nice zippy little phone.
Downsides that I don't like compared to my SGS:
- Not the best screen (compared to SAMOLED)
- No internal memory
- No HD Video recording
- 800mhz compared to 1ghz Hummingbird (yeah I know, don't always count the Mhz)
- 2.1 and Motorola's dodgy software updating frequency
- Motorola UI
But apart from them, I really like it. Don't want a Desire, it's GPU is on the slow side (apparently Defy is getting faster than SGS in some cases) and my friend has one and he's a pain (lol)
So what's the general view of Defy owners? Do you like it? What are it's genuine downsides?
Girlfriend has a defy and i have a vibrant. Its a nice phone, really. Youll notice its slower cause of blur but i added launcher pro to her device and it fixes that. Custom roms for the defy are being worked on now so you will have a fast phone once a vanilla android experience is ported. It plays any game we throw at it. The screen is but its not bad either! Get it.
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Oh and it has 2 gigs of app memory inside
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Honestly, defy's performances are a lot better than i expected.
Any game or app runs smootly, there's no lags at all except for the Blur UI (but, this is just a blur issue).
Of course, the screen is worst than SAMOLED but you will love it just because it's a big screen in a small phone I really like this feature.
About internal memory (not external SD i mean), defy has 2GB rom (ram is 512mb), you'll have more than 1.2 GB free for your apps.
Overall, a great phone.
alexbob1318 said:
- Not the best screen (compared to SAMOLED)
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It's actually one of the better LCDs around. No idea why people think its average, they should have a look at recent panels found on current HTC phones
I prefer it to the fuzzy pentile LEDs too (SGS: 0.38 Million RB subpixels, Defy: 0.82 Million)
http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_1.htm
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- No internal memory
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It's got 2GB (~1.5GB available for apps)
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- No HD Video recording
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Yep, no 720p recording. (but could change in the future.. if the SoC is a 3630 )
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- 800mhz compared to 1ghz Hummingbird (yeah I know, don't always count the Mhz)
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It's a standard OMAP 36xx core which runs at 1.2GHz in the droid 2 global (easy OC on the Defy) and is comparable to the hummingbird. SGX530 is slower than the 540 found in the Galaxy S but has little impact for most games (excluding emulation etc)
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- 2.1 and Motorola's dodgy software updating frequency
- Motorola UI
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Software is Motorolas a main problem area. Motoblur is bloated and kills performance.
2.2 should be released in Q2 2011 (a long long time for a OS update that should've been released with the phone)
The LCD on the DEFY is far from great. I have the SGS Vibrant and make no mistake the screen is better for more reasons that the black levels and color saturation.
This fuzzy text thing is as overblown as it can be. It's not a problem when you're not running off at the mouth about how horrible it isn't..
The LCD on the DEFY has horrible viewing angles as well. `
I have the DEFY and I overclocked it, it runs great overclocked but battery life took a hit in a major way. Secondly -
REPLACING THE LAUNCHER DOES NOT FIX LAG OR REMOVE THE MOTOBLUR INTERFACE.
This is a cancer running rampant, LauncherPro does NOTHING for performance. It does NOT remove MOTOBLUR and it looks terrible with highly gradient colors/shading.
Hi Guys,
As per my signitaure yes I am using an international version of the Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-I9300
Now I have been down with samsung since the first galaxy so I am a bit tired already of the same features..
, I know its a violation to mention other devices in this section
But coming friday, I will be swapping my phone with an quad core HTC One X but I have read this one dreadful article,
Wifi-Bug!!
Now, I was viewing a lot of reviews and now is more confused but I really wan't to have the first hand ideas from HOX users themselves..
So how does it compare to the S3 in terms of;
-Gaming,(I play Gameloft games like MC3,MC4, Wild Blood, NOVA 3, interested in Tegrazone games hence the interest to switch)
-Camera
-CM 10.1 Stability? (it sucks on the S3 btw)
-Staying on stock ROM 4.1.1+root is worthwhile for the timebeing? I am now becoming lazy of flashing roms LOL
-Build quality? Does the white one stain easily?
-Wifi Stability? (read that article regarding wifi issues with this particular handset)
Please please help me out guys with such dilemma before friday, thanks in advance!!
anyone could help a bretheren in thy dilemma?
Odp: [Q] About to make the swap from S3
jcagara08 said:
Hi Guys,
As per my signitaure yes I am using an international version of the Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-I9300
Now I have been down with samsung since the first galaxy so I am a bit tired already of the same features..
, I know its a violation to mention other devices in this section
But coming friday, I will be swapping my phone with an quad core HTC One X but I have read this one dreadful article,
Wifi-Bug!!
Now, I was viewing a lot of reviews and now is more confused but I really wan't to have the first hand ideas from HOX users themselves..
So how does it compare to the S3 in terms of;
-Gaming,(I play Gameloft games like MC3,MC4, Wild Blood, NOVA 3, interested in Tegrazone games hence the interest to switch)
-Camera
-CM 10.1 Stability? (it sucks on the S3 btw)
-Staying on stock ROM 4.1.1+root is worthwhile for the timebeing? I am now becoming lazy of flashing roms LOL
-Build quality? Does the white one stain easily?
-Wifi Stability? (read that article regarding wifi issues with this particular handset)
Please please help me out guys with such dilemma before friday, thanks in advance!!
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Gaming is awesome! Even my Nexus 7 can't play as good as One X.
Camera is very good, but on CM it's worse than on Sense.
CM 10.1 is stable, working fine if you've got 1.12 H-BOOT or lower.
I'm stuck at ViperX, best ROM for this phone.
Build quality is way better than samsung, though I have the grey one. The screen scratches pretty easy if you've got sand in your pockets.
Wi-fi is fixed in newer models, if you'll get one from the store, then you'll be safe I think. Wi-Fi is much better on Sense.
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VaderSKN said:
Gaming is awesome! Even my Nexus 7 can't play as good as One X.
Camera is very good, but on CM it's worse than on Sense.
CM 10.1 is stable, working fine if you've got 1.12 H-BOOT or lower.
I'm stuck at ViperX, best ROM for this phone.
Build quality is way better than samsung, though I have the grey one. The screen scratches pretty easy if you've got sand in your pockets.
Wi-fi is fixed in newer models, if you'll get one from the store, then you'll be safe I think. Wi-Fi is much better on Sense.
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Whoah thanks much!
I pretty much game only in my smartphones, I thought Nexus 7 was the same tegra 3 platform? oh well.
I read somewehre thath lowlight pictures are good with the HOX
CM10.1 needs parts like different kernels, etc? not a one time flash?
ViperX rom is based on 4.2.2?
Yeah that's one factor that attracted me to the one x its the build, would it get stained with jeans? Yeah I am in the Mid East, we have lotsa sand here.
Oh this phone was like used for about 6 months, still has wifi issues? signal drops or cuts off? in stock Rom you mean?
1. Quite good. Gets a little warm though and battery life will definitely be a problem.
2. Nice quality on Sense ROMs, but on AOSP, not so good.
3. Beta-3. Extremely stable whatsoever.
4. If you like stock. Most people don't.
5. Solid, if you get a device from a newer batch. Some of the earlier models had weird gaps, wifi problems etc.
6. Never had any issues.
Keep in mind, we don't have S-OFF so you need to flash kernels and recoveries using fastboot commands which is a pain in the ass.
If I was you, I would never exchange SIII to a hox though.
Guys anymore points I need to consider?
Odp: [Q] About to make the swap from S3
jcagara08 said:
Whoah thanks much!
I pretty much game only in my smartphones, I thought Nexus 7 was the same tegra 3 platform? oh well.
I read somewehre thath lowlight pictures are good with the HOX
CM10.1 needs parts like different kernels, etc? not a one time flash?
ViperX rom is based on 4.2.2?
Yeah that's one factor that attracted me to the one x its the build, would it get stained with jeans? Yeah I am in the Mid East, we have lotsa sand here.
Oh this phone was like used for about 6 months, still has wifi issues? signal drops or cuts off? in stock Rom you mean?
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Nexus 7 has 1300 MHz, One X got 1500 MHz.
You don't need any special kernels with CM10.
ViperX is based on latest Sense build, Android 4.1.1 and Sense 4.5/4+.
I don't have any Wi-Fi issues after 8 months of usage, but the screen on my Desire Z looks better than the one on One X.
Also, there's a *thanks* button, so you don't need to write the whole word
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TToivanen said:
1. Quite good. Gets a little warm though and battery life will definitely be a problem.
2. Nice quality on Sense ROMs, but on AOSP, not so good.
3. Beta-3. Extremely stable whatsoever.
4. If you like stock. Most people don't.
5. Solid, if you get a device from a newer batch. Some of the earlier models had weird gaps, wifi problems etc.
6. Never had any issues.
Keep in mind, we don't have S-OFF so you need to flash kernels and recoveries using fastboot commands which is a pain in the ass.
If I was you, I would never exchange SIII to a hox though.
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1. that wouldn't be much of a problem, do you have gameloft games installed? I read somewhere it is laggy for HOX, true?
2. that's nice to know
3. Beta 3 you mean CM10.1 based on 4.2,2? wow if very stable!
4. Lazy to flash but yeah I am capable of doing so.
5. I wish this will be part of the newer batch.
6. Issues on? How about that 3 button menu icon that appears in apps, can it be disabled?
7. How are the headsets which is supplied? is it symmetrically wired of maybe the right earbud has shorter wiring than the left (that kind of headsets I don't like)
I thought there was already an S-off released for the HOX, I'm sure I have read it somehere here.
Was thinking of the HTC one X even before having an S3
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Nexus 7 has 1300 MHz, One X got 1500 MHz.
You don't need any special kernels with CM10.
ViperX is based on latest Sense build, Android 4.1.1 and Sense 4.5/4+.
I don't have any Wi-Fi issues after 8 months of usage, but the screen on my Desire Z looks better than the one on One X.
Also, there's a *thanks* button, so you don't need to write the whole word
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hox scales the cpu depending on how many cores its using, 1.5 = 1 core, 1.3 = 2 cores, 1.2 = 4 cores anyway
hox has better camera, faster in benchmarks and looks better outside and n screen
s3 has removable battery, sd slot, 50 GB dropbox and that nice eye tracking app.
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1. Nope not at the moment.
3. Yes, it is 4.2.2 and haven't found any problems or bugs.
6. WiFi issues. The on screen menu button menu can be disabled if you have a stock ROM higher or equal to android 4.0.4. All of the custom ROMs have the button disabled by default.
7. It's symmetrical.
S-OFF was released for the North American variant of One X, not our phone unfortunately.
Wanna swap phones with me?
I have this 2 devices. One x white and gs3 white.....
I prefer the gs3 over one x..
Why?
Better GPS, camera is really better than hox. Video Call over 3g, better runing games without lag. The wifi connection is better and sound have a big diference, makes hox looks soo poor
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hello all. im in a little bit of dilemma here.
im ex galaxy s2 owner, fell in water for 45mins (superb phone, RIP) and im about to sign my new contract.
price range is like this with me, its eighter HTC one X (int,quad) or LG p880 4x HD.
price difference is minimal for my contract. (htc slihgtly more expensive)
Now the thing is. i love more edgy phones (which LG is, reminds of my s2 <3) but since im not ultra rich i wld like my phone
to whitstand loads of monts of heavy use. and i know, HTC makes some really good finishes on their phones.
When u look at specs, basicly the same, 720p screen, similar shooters, same RAM, same tegra 3..
So, honestly, check the specs of LG and tell me, what would you choose if you were buying one of these 2 now?
and no, i dont want ANY OTHER phones. nor do i have the money, nor does my provider offer.
Anyways, thank you for any opinions.
One X all the way development and the quality of the device is way ahead
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One X all the way development and the quality of the device is way ahead
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thanks for reply. thats what im thinking myself, lets see what others say
One X. No question about that. You're on xda and this is all about development. 4X has nothing.
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yep my sister has 4XHD but i didn't found something really for it...and the phones is still on 4.0.3 ....ok it has larger battery and my sister said she has good battery life but yea ok screen development etc is nothing compared to our hox
I own both as you can see from my signature and i can tell you ..
1. HOX has a little better screen-color, saturation but i do not like HOX screen because the glass is like mirror if you use phone outside and need really pop up your screen brightness -> battery drain as hell
2. Battery time differences when you actually use phone are almost the same, some times better with 4X some times better with HOX (i do not play games - only movies, web browsing, sms and calls, photos (HOX camera is battery drain in comparation with 4X)) - but standby time is better for HOX
3. HOX build quality is better, my LG 4X is 6 mounts younger than HOX but have cracking sound and looks like 6 mounts older than HOX actually , HOX is stable regarding screen replacement-my fault (i must say i do not use protection cases and screen protectors)
4. Must say that 4X with JB have done a good job with camera..better pics than HOX, especially closeup photos- Really without complaining!
5. Must also say that 4X JB update is first android and LG user interface that i do not wont to change, you really have much options for personalization and also much user intuitive than HOX
6. HTC push Flash player app on HTC even in JB for web browsing, 4X UI have landscape mode for home screen and app drawer without using a custom launcher!
7. For developers ..probably HOX is better..But 4X also have support, 4X JB source code is released from LG, CM nightly is here allreday, and actually flashing custom ROMs it is much simpler for LG 4X - just need actually rom manager from play store, and just put desired rom file to sd card, and much more simpler to go back to stock-just flash .kdz or .dz, and you can root 4X without unlocking bootloader and using custom recovery which you must do with HOX because of S-ON!
8. HOX after JB update support usb OTG natively - LG 4X as it seems have hardware limitation even if that function is enabled with some apps or hacks..
So i can not advise you what to buy because - your needs->your phone but i can say that after several months of usage i choose to use HOX for testing and developing and 4X for every day use, using 4X on daily base is for me much happier and easier experience!
Hmmm. So my thoughts exactly.. LG maybe better for daily use, but not a really awesome build quality..
donno. well, im goin to pick one of these up today. i quess ill just test them both there and see. will let you know what i chose
In my group of friends there are three 4X's and one, mine, One X, so I've done quite an extensive comparison over the time and I can tell you without being biased by my love for the HOX, the HOX is a better phone. You get a better designed/built phone with a better display. Photos are better on the 4X but the video shooting and camera options go for the One X. Sense is better than whatever the LG skin is named and we'll get Sense 5 in the future. Last but not least the One X has way more active development that is very important when choosing a phone for people like me, I don't know about you but it probably is important to you
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im back from shop with HOX!
i compared them there, and what really made me decide for HOX is build quality. also, better viewing angles on display. benchmarks were basicly on par, even with full sense running. also, im a custom ROM lover, and i quess HOX is better in that also, its been out for a while.
HOX!
Optimus 4x is terrible for gaming. We got unlock and official cm10.1 now but theres no decent gaming kernel yet
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My workmate has ordered a P880.He's now waiting for the delivery.
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Hi-
So I've been looking at getting an Android device, as I'd finally like to leave apple. I have considered the Samsung S4 and Xperia Z, but they don't suit (too expensive, or too big).
However, I recently saw this device on sale (in Australia - $388), and the spec's have impressed me a lot. It's the international version (32GB, 13MP camera).
My priorities are:
1. Use as an eReader
2. Decent Battery
3. Run remote desktop apps (VNC/LogMeIn)
4. Play games (mainly SNES/n64 emulators)
I've noticed the development scene for this phone is not big. What does this mean for me? Just less roms available?
I'm also concerned as I've read the camera isn't great... Is that right? Have any of the new roms fixed it?
Also- will multiview be possible? I know it isn't on stock- but can any ROM's do it?
Cheers
1-4, yes yes yes yes.
Custom roms are working great,no issues.we have quality over quantity.
Multi view is not for g,but for g pro.don't know if a value pack with goodies from g pro will be released for g.i hope it will.
Camera is decent,don't expect miracles in low light conditions.but on normal light conditions,it's just great.
no phone can replace a dedicated camera,remember that.
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kimitza said:
1-4, yes yes yes yes.
Custom roms are working great,no issues.we have quality over quantity.
Multi view is not for g,but for g pro.don't know if a value pack with goodies from g pro will be released for g.i hope it will.
Camera is decent,don't expect miracles in low light conditions.but on normal light conditions,it's just great.
no phone can replace a dedicated camera,remember that.
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Ok cheers for the response.
I would go and buy this phone now- but having multiview is a must. Such a shame!
You will not regret it
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kimitza said:
1-4, yes yes yes yes.
Custom roms are working great,no issues.we have quality over quantity.
Multi view is not for g,but for g pro.don't know if a value pack with goodies from g pro will be released for g.i hope it will.
Camera is decent,don't expect miracles in low light conditions.but on normal light conditions,it's just great.
no phone can replace a dedicated camera,remember that.
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Hi, found that you are running CM 10.1, could you give us some reviews about battery? For moderate use (like music, surfing, and small games as angry bird, temple run), how long can the battery go?
Thanks.
1. Use as an eReader
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Good for reading
2. Decent Battery
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Battery just scks. Its scks so bad.
3. Run remote desktop apps (VNC/LogMeIn)
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Im using LogMeIn, works nice but the "4,7 too small for this IMHO.
4. Play games (mainly SNES/n64 emulators)
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Some games wiping battery in one and half hours.
It's better than stock, at least for me,with a litle tweaking.
For moderate usage you will get 1 day easily.I'm a heavy gamer,though, got 5 hrs of real racing 3 .this is great for me.
No complains here.
Moderate usage for me is this :
20-30 minutes talk
Texts
3 hrs browsing(including youtube) on 3g/LTE
1.5hr or so of gaming like you said(not fancy 3d games)
Music in the background
Battery lasts from morning till dawn without any problems
Seriously 5 hours? That's unreal :-O
i will post screens when i will let the phone settle for a while, easter it's coming here and i will be off for 3 days
It's very important what apps/services are running in the background and the network signal.I use greenify to be sure nothing i don't want is not running in the background
ycon said:
Also- will multiview be possible? I know it isn't on stock- but can any ROM's do it?
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From 4.1 and above, LG's stock ROMs have their own implementation of Xperia small apps. Technically IT IS multiwindow, but only for like calculator, web browser, etc. haha. Still, better than nothing! Goodluck in making your choice
Thanks for the responses everyone.
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From 4.1 and above, LG's stock ROMs have their own implementation of Xperia small apps. Technically IT IS multiwindow, but only for like calculator, web browser, etc. haha. Still, better than nothing! Goodluck in making your choice
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I think I saw this- quickview or something. It seems ok, but not exactly what I need.
I was sold on it, after everything you all told me, but then when I went to get the device- I just found it too square/large. It's similar to the Xperia Z in size, and the squareness makes it quite bulgy in my jeans. So I'm affaid on size alone- it's no longer an option for me
after spending a while with the G, i´d avise you to go with a mainstream device....
yea the G looks nice, but the camera sucks, battery sucks and with mainstream stuff you get faster updates, more community support and so on
Yeah right,a premium device sucks more than a mainstream. do you realise what you are saying?it's like ,man,go for renault,not mercedes.
Again,why would i need updates if the original software has no issues?just for the sake to say,hey,i have the latest firmware.no visible improvements,but,what the heck,i have the latest.
To be honest, gesture ui from lg is the smoothiest experience compared to similar devices from major competitors(s3,onex).heck,compared with a nexus 4,which is the "pure" android experience,there is no difference.an i compared some flagships,not medium devices.if you advice someone to go for mainstream,it means you never had such devices.in order to trully enjoy android experience,you need at least dual core,1gb ram,decent gpu and at qhd or more display.
Tell me what mainstream device meets all these requirements.
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monkeytown said:
after spending a while with the G, i´d avise you to go with a mainstream device....
yea the G looks nice, but the camera sucks, battery sucks and with mainstream stuff you get faster updates, more community support and so on
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Camera solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065799
I will admit, camera is not as good as other devices, but that tweak offered by Epic_ actually helps greatly with clarity/quality.
Battery:
Root and unlock your phone using universal root / manual + FreeGee.
Install Titanium Backup - remove the bloatware (LG MLT in particular)
Install Greenify - greenify your apps
Disable Fast Dormancy..
Battery life is insane after doing all this. Phone deep sleeps properly.. 2 hours screen time so far, wifi always on / 3g + data on and I'm on 75%, which is on par if not beats the other "mainstream devices" - (SGS3, One X..)
The build quality of this phone is also amazing - observe this drop test of the phone.. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj_F_qc5cds
I actually don't mind that there isn't a lot of ROM development for this phone.. I actually really like LG's stock offering. QSlide is actually quite useful.
And this is coming from me who came from a Nexus S lol
ycon said:
Hi-
So I've been looking at getting an Android device, as I'd finally like to leave apple. I have considered the Samsung S4 and Xperia Z, but they don't suit (too expensive, or too big).
However, I recently saw this device on sale (in Australia - $388), and the spec's have impressed me a lot. It's the international version (32GB, 13MP camera).
My priorities are:
1. Use as an eReader
2. Decent Battery
3. Run remote desktop apps (VNC/LogMeIn)
4. Play games (mainly SNES/n64 emulators)
I've noticed the development scene for this phone is not big. What does this mean for me? Just less roms available?
I'm also concerned as I've read the camera isn't great... Is that right? Have any of the new roms fixed it?
Also- will multiview be possible? I know it isn't on stock- but can any ROM's do it?
Cheers
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Hi where did you see this on sale for $388?
PandaJZ said:
Hi where did you see this on sale for $388?
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It was on sale at JB HiFi I bought the same for the same price. Unsure if the promotion is still on (or if it was a price error nationwide)
I rate you'd be better off getting a GS3 LTE:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9305_galaxy_s_iii-5001.php
.you are kidding,right?
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xis123 said:
It was on sale at JB HiFi I bought the same for the same price. Unsure if the promotion is still on (or if it was a price error nationwide)
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Thanks I checked with jb it's still $388 but you have to buy with a "no contract" telstra plan
Outright is over $600
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Thanks I checked with jb it's still $388 but you have to buy with a "no contract" telstra plan
Outright is over $600
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Get it with the contract then immediately cancel it. At least that's what I'm hoping to do.
I had HTC Desire for nearly 3 years, and it is a great phone, but I think it is time to upgrade, because:
- it is annoyingly slow with my regular set of programs installed, even on fastest available roms
- it doesn't have kernel 3.0, and because of that JB roms have shortcomings
- a little bit too small screen for GPS navigation
- really crappy camera
- somewhat short battery life
Some time ago I had a chance to look at Galaxy S2 in person and it looked like a perfect phone (at least for 2 minutes I had it in my hands).
Somewhat bigger screen, more internal storage, kernel 3.0.
I use custom roms, so big development community is important for me. I have been spoiled by Desire as it (still) has a large one.
Galaxy S2 would cost me around 170-200 euro to get it.
Should I take that, or look for something else in this price range?
My requirements:
- larger screen (not necessarily much larger)
- android (duh)
- solid build quality
- large development community
- noticeably faster CPU than Desire (Dual+ core would come in handy)
- microUSB
- good/very good camera
- good battery life
- price up to 200 euro (used)
- would be nice if it had FM transmitter (not receiver) but it is not necessary
- it must by BLACK or therebout
I also considered s2 but there's one serious setback to it. Namely, the screen is amoled and without pentile matrix.
What's bad about it you ask? pixels that are frequently used lose color and items that you have on screen for most time are somewhat paler than the rest of the screen, and you can see their shadow for the whole time, ppl reported that with all amoled displays and non pentile of s2 is even more susceptible to that. That happens even to devices 3 months old, depending on how heavily they are used I guess. You can google it to see for yourself, just type galaxy s2 amoled burn in. There are also few good YouTube vids showing that. Items that you usually can see are burned in status bar, soft keys from your most used app, keyboard, alarm icon and "fully charged" sign across the screen as during night charging the phone lights up when battery is full and keeps the screen on until you turn it off or unplug it/on some ROMs at least, stock including/.
Is Desire not affected by that?
Then what else would you suggest?
Only first edition of desire pvt1 I believe had amoled screens, the rest are sporting slcd which is not organic and does not suffer from this burn in effect.
impactor said:
I had HTC Desire for nearly 3 years, and it is a great phone, but I think it is time to upgrade, because:
- it is annoyingly slow with my regular set of programs installed, even on fastest available roms
- it doesn't have kernel 3.0, and because of that JB roms have shortcomings
- a little bit too small screen for GPS navigation
- really crappy camera
- somewhat short battery life
Some time ago I had a chance to look at Galaxy S2 in person and it looked like a perfect phone (at least for 2 minutes I had it in my hands).
Somewhat bigger screen, more internal storage, kernel 3.0.
I use custom roms, so big development community is important for me. I have been spoiled by Desire as it (still) has a large one.
Galaxy S2 would cost me around 170-200 euro to get it.
Should I take that, or look for something else in this price range?
My requirements:
- larger screen (not necessarily much larger)
- android (duh)
- solid build quality
- large development community
- noticeably faster CPU than Desire (Dual+ core would come in handy)
- microUSB
- good/very good camera
- good battery life
- price up to 200 euro (used)
- would be nice if it had FM transmitter (not receiver) but it is not necessary
- it must by BLACK or therebout
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Go for SGS2+. It is newer phone, available almost at the same price as SGS2, probably have warranty and no burn-in effect of any major cosmetic wear.
But I think there is no black variant, but dark blue.
Price is 200-230 EUR.
HTC sensation
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dvd777 said:
Go for SGS2+. It is newer phone, available almost at the same price as SGS2, probably have warranty and no burn-in effect of any major cosmetic wear.
But I think there is no black variant, but dark blue.
Price is 200-230 EUR.
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What is the model number of that one? Galaxies have very confusing customer names.
impactor said:
What is the model number of that one? Galaxies have very confusing customer names.
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I9105 if l'm not mistaken.
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S2+ makes no sense, is more expensive than regular s2, has same screen with same setbacks and worse gpu, videocoreiv vs Mali 400.
Sensation seems good, but I've got no experience with that phone.
If you want a dev community supporting your device, avoid htc phones. HTC is terribly slow when it comes to releasing updates and sources.
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totalnoob34 said:
If you want a dev community supporting your device, avoid htc phones. HTC is terribly slow when it comes to releasing updates and sources.
If I helped, hit the thanks button!
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I disagree with you. But again, it is on him to pick something that he likes. We are here to suggest him.
I like HTC Because of Sense,speed (on some new devices) new features big rom list's etc. I dont like samsung bcs every new phone (LG,ZTE,Nokia,Sony, and many more) are copy of Samsung,Same android UI, same phone design i will say. JUST A COPY .
HTC Have some original from begining of production for me that is a great and like i sayed i will suggest you to buy some HTC Model (HTC One X, HTC Sensation.not new but very good, HTC One v (it is not so special but it is very good,speed, and it is very Cheap)
But if you want to buy some other phone mark Yes i will suggest you to but SGSII or SGSIII Mini. Mini have small Display but have great camera great speed great support and what is importatt you can find it for 170/80 Eur
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+1 for the sensation, i baught mine used for 100 euro and its like brand new, i got it off a guy cheap coz it was stuck in bootloader lol, i got it home, flashed a ruu then s-off & rooted and it has great dev support, loads of sense roms, 3.5 - 3.6 - 4.1 - 4+ and now waiting for team venom to release sense 5. Also loads of JB - AOSP roms and 4.3 JB roms, really is a great phone with good hardware to handle all roms.
About sensation, the newer roms have working camera/video or is it stuck with that issue like our old desires?
And how do you cope without the trackpad, I tend to write lengthy emails/forum posts and it's a great tool when I want too correct something, yet no other phone has it. does it mean trouble for guys like me?
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About sensation, the newer roms have working camera/video or is it stuck with that issue like our old desires?
And how do you cope without the trackpad, I tend to write lengthy emails/forum posts and it's a great tool when I want too correct something, yet no other phone has it. does it mean trouble for guys like me?
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everything works, and i never really used trackpad on the desire.
I would never buy sensation. Death grip issues and dust under screen glass is way too much for me. Sgs2+ is ftw in my opinion.
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Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...
impactor said:
Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...
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What bout One X/S? In ireland they going for bout 175 - 225 euro, good all round phone and fairly solid.
One S would be good bargain, but no official 4.2.2 for him. He is eol already, unfortunately. One X is expensive, like S3.
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My friend is selling his One X for 200 euro in mint condition, he dont use it, its just sitting in his drawer. I was gona buy it but i always wanted a sensation lol. If ur interested i could say to him, he has it a while so maybe i can get it cheaper for u. Postage would be round 10 euro. Let me know
P.S - im not dodgy r that, user k3lcior had no gps antenna so i gave him mine from my desire (coz my desire is dead), free of charge, and i posted it to poland.
well if I may make a suggestion, I would say get the Nexus 4
Pros: (according to what you listed)
larger screen and clearer screen
will always have the latest and greatest Android OS since its from Google
I don't remember the build quality on it but I know its at least better than the desire
haven't checked the dev support but since its a bit more open.... should still be better than the desire
very fast 1.5GHz quad-core CPU
microUSB
8MP camera and a 1.3MP front cam
decent 2,100 mAh battery
and most importantly it comes in Black
Cons:
its $300 which about 224 euros (so slightly over budget although sorta worth it)
no FM trasmitter
limited storage and no SD card expansion
so really its an amazing phone, its mainly only brought down by not having an SD card slot but if you find the 8 or 16GB models fine then I'd say go for it.