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I`m a bit confused right now ... i really loved the HTC evo 4G but since i live in India ... i cant get my hands on that...
The only good phones i am left with are desire , xperia x10 or samsung galaxy
Pls let me know which one should i go for
And i wanted to know how are the games in desire .. are they even comparable to iphone games??... and can it be jailbreaked like the iphone????
heres a youtube vid of nova on the desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn2DuPeE-E
Avoid the Xperia X10, mainly due to the terrible terrible battery life and the fact it's still running Android 1.6, as well has having much lower performance than the Desire and Nexus One which use almost identical internals.
As for 'jailbreaking', in Android circles the equivalent is known as 'rooting' to enable you to install all the awesome custom firmwares available on this forum to enable new features, speed up your device or even get the latest versions of Android before they're even released.
Games-wise, there is a decent selection, but truthfully the iPhone is the king of mobile gaming. I haven't found this to be a problem however, as I realised after owning an iPod Touch before my android phone that with most games I'll play them for a few minutes when I download them and then never really touch them again. I use music, video, email, social networking and general internet browsing far more.
As for Desire vs Galaxy S...kind of hard to choose.
Galaxy S Pros and Cons:
+ Large, amazing Super AMOLED screen
+ Most powerful Android device out, especially it's GPU (for 3D games)
+ DivX video support
+ Video-out if you want to connect it to a screen
+ Reportedly great sound quality for headphones
+ Battery life better than most other high-end Android phones
- The phone itself looks like a cheap iPhone ripoff (why Samsung why?!)
- Samsung use their 'TouchWiz' interface on top of Android which looks kind of ugly and adds little
- Samsung don't have a good track record with updates...they've confirmed Froyo but no word on whether it'll ever get anything above that
- Reportedly all custom roms will need to be based off Samsung's official roms, so won't have as large a variety as HTC phones
- Apparently many users have had GPS problems
HTC Desire Pros and Cons:
+ Huge variety of custom roms
+ Similarity with Nexus One means since Nexus One gets updates first, most can be quickly ported to Desire
+ HTC Sense interface on top of Android looks great and improves usability (especially the widgets)
+ HTC's default apps for mail, weather, etc are extremely well designed
+ Will most likely be able to run Android 3.0 (Gingerbread) ported from the Nexus One once it's released
+ Very good build quality and nicer-looking hardware
- Battery life not as good
- Smaller screen that's regular AMOLED rather than Samsung's new variety
- Not as powerful as Galaxy S
Hope that helps! I'm currently in the middle of deciding between the Desire and Galaxy S myself, so done a fair bit of research and tried both out.
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- Not as powerful as Galaxy S
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as you can see my quadrant score says diffrent
That would be because you're running Froyo, which the Galaxy S has been confirmed to be receiving later this year. =P
The more apt comparison is lower on that graph showing the 2.1 Desire and Nexus One far lower than the 2.1 Galaxy S.
well thanks for that .. i am leaning towards htc desire more now ... just to confirm are there any better andriod phones in the market which are gsm and available outside US ??
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as you can see my quadrant score says diffrent
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Which battery meter are you using?
vinayendra: since you mentioned only games in your post, my advice to you is to avoid android platform and go with Iphone if games are your priority...
If you still need to choose between these 3 phones, Galaxy would be your choice, cause it's better GPU will be advantage with games
I cant speak for the galaxy S but having used both desire and the xperia the desire wins hands down. The xperia is really laggy and the old version of android is a deal breaker. Once sony pull their fingers out and update the xperia it might be a different story but I dont think we will see that for a few more months yet
the only advantage the xperia has is the large internal apps storage, you dont need to root it if your wanting loads of apps unlike the desire
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heres a youtube vid of nova on the desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn2DuPeE-E
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id love to know how to get that game running on my desire, I had it for my palm pre and loved it but the desire just gives me a black screen then it closes
djoni1980 said:
vinayendra: since you mentioned only games in your post, my advice to you is to avoid android platform and go with Iphone if games are your priority...
If you still need to choose between these 3 phones, Galaxy would be your choice, cause it's better GPU will be advantage with games
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Games or not my priority .. i already have a ipod touch ... for me the main things are cool apps maybe even GPS , email and very good user interface ... i have a htc 3G touch ... it really sucks ...after having that i had decided not to go for HTC again ... But i cant buy iphone 4 as it takes a year to come to my country ... and i heard andriod phones are awesome ... so going back to HTC
So anyone owns a desire .. plz tell the pros and cons of desire which u felt while using
Take the desire you wont regret it.and someone already mentiond pros & cons on page 1.
You only have to choose
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AXIS of Reality said:
That would be because you're running Froyo, which the Galaxy S has been confirmed to be receiving later this year. =P
The more apt comparison is lower on that graph showing the 2.1 Desire and Nexus One far lower than the 2.1 Galaxy S.
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can you not read? it clearly says samsung galaxy s 2.2 on the benchmark
pms said:
Which battery meter are you using?
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the one that comes with the expresso theme for 2.2 sence roms
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can you not read? it clearly says samsung galaxy s 2.2 on the benchmark
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LOL, actually it says <2.2, which is 2.1
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LOL, actually it says <2.2, which is 2.1
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oh yeah so it does lol
If you have access to those phones in India go and try them out in person because you won't have a clue on what everyone is going on about except for prior experience on your old Touch.
An Android phone is perfect if you live your online life through Google, if you don't I suggest you move.
An iPhone is known for simplicity and just working until you somehow manage to get yourself into the zoom feature and you're screwed unless you know the zoom out function. These high end phones are true powerhouses in pocket computing and are for more than showing off to your mates that you have a cool phone. If that's all you're going to do, you deserve an iPhone. If you're rolling up your sleeves and learning how to individualise yourself from every other Android user out there then you will quickly learn about live wallpapers, widgets, shortcuts and button combinations. Go further than that and its roms, themes, radios, adb commands so on and so forth.
Know what you want and shop according to it. One of these phones will tick most if not all of your needs and wants. Or something in the near future will. Between the 2 phones, out of the box you are looking at a difference of interface more than anything else. Really suggest you go try them out.
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Jabbafat23 said:
If you have access to those phones in India go and try them out in person because you won't have a clue on what everyone is going on about except for prior experience on your old Touch.
An Android phone is perfect if you live your online life through Google, if you don't I suggest you move.
An iPhone is known for simplicity and just working until you somehow manage to get yourself into the zoom feature and you're screwed unless you know the zoom out function. These high end phones are true powerhouses in pocket computing and are for more than showing off to your mates that you have a cool phone. If that's all you're going to do, you deserve an iPhone. If you're rolling up your sleeves and learning how to individualise yourself from every other Android user out there then you will quickly learn about live wallpapers, widgets, shortcuts and button combinations. Go further than that and its roms, themes, radios, adb commands so on and so forth.
Know what you want and shop according to it. One of these phones will tick most if not all of your needs and wants. Or something in the near future will. Between the 2 phones, out of the box you are looking at a difference of interface more than anything else. Really suggest you go try them out.
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I'd mostly agree with that.
Android phones really are 'enthusiast' phones, in the sense that you get out of them what you put in. For example, customising it to work exactly how you want and look how you want it to look.
The iPhone is made as a very controlled system, so you have only the absolute minimum freedom (ie: change your wallpaper or order of icons). This is ideal for many people who want something that just 'works' and has been tuned to be an intuitive experience for the majority of people.
Android is based around making your phone uniquely yours, such as through the use of the homescreens to fill with whatever you want (widgets, controls, shortcuts, folders, etc). What this means is it requires more time and attention than an iPhone, but the end result is a phone and way of working that is of your own design.
Think of it like Lego:
- the iPhone is where you follow the instructions and get what is shown in the picture on the box (which can annoy people who want to do their own thing).
- Android is where you are given a pile of lego bricks to build whatever you want, so it's far more personalised even if it's not as polished as the iPhone (which can confuse or put of people who prefer a guiding hand and it to be done for them)
I'm happy to sacrifice some polish in the interface for the chance to really make my phone mine, but there are many who feel the other way. That's why it's great we have the oppurtunity to choose between Android and iOS (and soon Windows Phone 7, which seems like a halfway point between the two).
thanks for all that ... Now i am convinced to go for a desire which i will buy sometime this week
i have a small doubt ( a n00b one) .. whats the use of "rooting" and installing ROM`s???.. is it the same as "jailbreaking" in iphone where i can install paid apps and games for free and play with my looks ?? ... or is there anyother use??
i have HTC Desire which i bough from a friend in England, (i live in Seattle) and absolutely love it. My co-worker has Tmobile Samsung Vibrant. Ill give my impressions and quick pros and cons, i may sound little bias but here it is.
Samsung Galaxy Pros
Large SuperAMOLED screen, true 800x480 res, multitouch (Which, while is brighter than the Desire, not that much better, almost cant tell the difference.)
Better battery life, Galaxy also comes with 1500 mAh battery whereas Desire come with 1400 mAh ( again only one day of test with moderate use)
Better GPU
16 Gb of internal storage (which is a huge plus)
720p @30 frames video capture (which also is possible on the Desire with a custom ROM)
Cons
Built quality is extremely cheap, back is shiny plastic which is prone to scratches
Has ugly iphone 3GS style bezel around the screen
No camera flash (this one is a huge let down by Samsung which is beyond any comprehension)
Ugly UI which is a blatant iOS rip off (this one may be strictly preferential depending if you like iOS look or not)
Samsungs proven lack of support track record
Not clear whether gonna have large dev support on XDA
External speaker is horrible, tiny sound (Desire is the same)
That is all i can think of at the moment
Desire Cons
Uses old Clear pad 2000 touch panel which lacks true multitouch support or supports it in a broken way (you can google Nexus one touch screen problems, there is 70 pages plus thread about it)
Uses Cheap Pentile pixel arrangement, which some argue is better for media but horrible if ou spend most of the time reading text on your device. ( you can google Pentile on Nexus One, Anandtech.com has very informative article about this)
Eternal speaker is horrible, sound is tiny and quite
video capture is crap
When using on low brightness, screen has pink hue
Battery life is mediocre
Pros
Built quality is way better than Galaxy, also looks sophisticated compared to Galaxy
Camera flash
Huge support from XDA developers since it is almost identical to Nexus One
Runs Sense, although i equally hate Sense, it is a lot better that TouchWiz
Has hardware buttons (this one is a deal breaker for me as Galaxy touch sensitive buttons are unresponsive at times and generally suck)
AMOLED is almost as good as Galaxy's ( aside from cheap ass touch panel that HTC used on Desire and Nexus One, why HTC why)
That is all i can think of at the moment. I am eligible for an upgrade with Tmobile, but i think ill keep the Desire. Just better phone aside from crappy screen. Hope this helps
Hi. As many of you I am undecided between the Desire HD and Galaxy S. I'd like to have some advices from you....these are my doubts:
1)there will be more rom support in future (both official producer roms and xda roms) for dhd or sgs? i know...it's difficult to say now, but If you see the number of threads of desire hd is a lot lower than sgs one, even if dhd is newer. This is a negative sign for dhd...
2)SGS has a more powerful GPU, but really in games and normal use there aren't great differences, rather sometimes dhd seems to be faster. Then shouldn't be so important to have the Hummingbird. Is this correct?
3)And even from the point of view of hardware...according to you what's the more interessant compromise between:
SGS: bluetooth 3, 6 axis accelerometer, front camera, superamoled, better battery, tv out
vs
DHD: faster 3G connection, dual flash led, 8 mp camera, more ram, dolby and srs, 4,3", better build material?? (are you sure that dhd lacks of 6 axis accelerometer?)
5)According to me samsung problems about gps and performance (without lag fix) are a very negative thing, because to use sgs performances i'm obliged to root the phone, to install the lag fix and others fix. Instead a positive thing for SGS is that maybe when nexus s comes out users could exploit its rom even for the galaxy, i think that the porting of that os should be easy saw that the hardware is the same.
6)However both htc and samsung announced that there will be the update to gingerbread...or not?
Then according to you what's the best compromise?dhd or sgs?
Sorry for my bad english. Thank you very much
Sgs... has 2.3.2.
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For me the killer is the screen, Super Amoled screens just dont do it for me.
The colors are very vibrant yes, but the pen-tiling on the screens make them look really grainy.
Have a look at an LCD next to a Super Amoled. In person, you wont see it in a video.
My best mate has a galaxy and the difference is really noticable.
This has been fixed in their new Super Amoled Plus screens, but the SGS doesnt have one.
I personally have a Galaxy S phone and I really love it, however the one thing that really bothers me is the battery life, the Super Amoled screens really eat batter life. The backgroung processes also eat quite a bit of battery even when the phone is off. I often have my phone plugged in when Im at work just to keep a charge, I have tried many things to save battery life but nothing really makes a dramatic difference.
SGS 'screen burn'... that's why I went for DHD. Hth.
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main reason i go for HTC is because of the Sense UI. i hate the fact of Touchwiz UI is the exact replica of iOS. i mean come on, iphone icons and homescreen on android? last thing is the lag issue on SGS out of the box which u need to fix. although personally i am impressed by the spec of SGS on paper, but i still prefer DHD in reality.
I've had an SGS and sold it to buy the DHD! Why you ask?
1. Samsung!!! (Good hardware and really bad software)
2. Support - This is XDA Developers after all HTC hardware gets the best support!
3. The SGS is just boring! I like to do benchmarks, to tweak, to test different things! The SGS ROMs are not as flexible as the HTC ones!
4. Speed - The SGS (even tweaked to the sky) is actually slower than the DHD!!! Even some games run better on the DHD than on the SGS! This is mostly the Snapdragon vs Humming bird CPU! Almost everything is optimized for the Snapdragon! Including JIT compiler and Abobe flash! In a test I did, the DHD played an HD chip in a web site without any problems but the SGS was not able to display it fluidly!
The only thing I don't like on the DHD is the screen! The colors are so pale compared to the SGS's Super amoled screen! And the battery of the DHD is not very good too!
I have dhd for Sense. It's just such a great ui. It's a bit love it or hate it though.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.
I suggest you post similar question in Samsung forum, hearing from both side of the story give better decision making.
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Thank you!! Now i'll follow your advice and will post the same question in sgs forum! Good idea!
i'm looking at this phone, does it have problems? were the defy- problems corrected?
But this phone looks really slow, REALLLY slow, i thought my windows phone was slow but this...
can you make a video where animations are off, and start some apps: calls, messaging internet settings?
it'd be greatly appreciated
I can fully recommend this Device, who told you its slow? I believe the OMAP3630 Chipset is one of the fastest 1GHz-chipsets. There are many vids on YouTube, with Defy+ where you can See the performance.
i watched videos , but in all of them animations were enabled, is it possible to disable them?
if so , i want to see if the speed increases
part of the reason i want to move from wp7 to android is speed- productivity
if you have the device and it wouldnt be too difficult , can you post a video? 1 min is enough
or can you at least say if the apps open faster?
No way, the Defy plus is very fast.
Great processor!
ok, and a good price, especially like the ruggedness and battery
What are you guys discussing, both have the same hardware with the defy+ at 1GHz instead of 800mhz and stock gingerbread.
The same can be achieved on defy easily by rooting
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I own a Defy+ so ....
Regarding speed: speed is fine but you can turn animations off. Only thing is that capacitive buttons are not as responsive as hardware buttons. Same as other phones with capacitive buttons.
I have not owned another Android phone to give you a comparison with. It kicks arse over my HTC Topaz.
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What are you guys discussing, both have the same hardware with the defy+ at 1GHz instead of 800mhz and stock gingerbread
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Not quite the same hardware as the battery is is bigger (1700mAh not 1500mAh).
Software wise it is Android 2.3.4 and a different version of Motoblur (less intrusive and probably lighter).
I think if you had a Defy you would speed up the processor and upgrade to 2.3.4 though.
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Anyway here is my assessment:
Pros:
- great size phone for a 3.7 inch screen (you will not find something else with that small width and height)
- dust proof
- water resistant (you can use it under water even if Motorola do not recommend it
- it has some shock proof rating thing (solid build with gorilla glass too)
- 2.3.4 with a 1000mhz processor has pretty good performance
- you do not have to use Motoblur (or any other mandatory interface)
- the phone looks really nice and feels really solid. I mountain-bike with it and will also snowboard with it with no additional protection
- in fairness to Motoblur they do offer some nice functionality for backing up your phone and even remotely finding your phone or deleting data from it (I still opted out though).
Cons:
- power connection is on the side (and is not opposite the volume buttons which limits car holder options a bit)
- may not get an Icecream upgrade due to GPU
- the fact that Motoblur is even on the phone in the first place
- capacitive buttons can be a little unresponsive at times (not helped by me coming from a WM phone and using my nail instead of the end of my finger)
I've seen a couple people say "they fixed the problems with the original defy in the defy+." What do they mean by this exactly? It seems like the hardware is mostly the same so I can only assume they mean the casing? Were there some sort of flaws with it?
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I've seen a couple people say "they fixed the problems with the original defy in the defy+." What do they mean by this exactly? It seems like the hardware is mostly the same so I can only assume they mean the casing? Were there some sort of flaws with it?
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Probably 2 things:
1) The Defy was slightly under powered
2) The older version of Motoblur was too intrusive
Both issues can be fixed by modding the Defy. Just the difference in battery.
no, its ear speaker failed too frequently
The earpiece problem was fixed in later production runs of the Defy, you didn't need to wait for the Defy+.
I'm curious what Defy+ owners get on a quadrant score.
On a standard Defy 2.2.1 it gets around 1000. With 1.1ghz it gets about 1350.
I like this phone so much that I'm lookin to pick up an unlocked Defy+ to keep for when my current one goes bad.
thanks
I got 1695 with my stock rooted defy +. Btw some useless apps were frozen with titanium backup
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I also want to buy Defy+. Right now I am using Lg Optimus One. I wish it should have front facing camera.
can defy+ run miui??
So, just to get this straight, I presume the Defy + only does data on the standard 2100 frequency? In other words, it will not work on either T-Mo nor AT&T USA 3G?
Go to the Facebook page "Motorola, unlock OUR bootloaders"
Question - with the default camera app I can turn off the camera sound, but with any other I can't... Is there a workaround this. Rooted!
wait a sec is it 3630 ?...my defy shows 3630 while flashing...
well i have flashed sbfs on my defy everytime i connect my defy shows 3630 hardware...what does it mean ? I mean it should b 3620 or somthing right ?
scrannel said:
So, just to get this straight, I presume the Defy + only does data on the standard 2100 frequency? In other words, it will not work on either T-Mo nor AT&T USA 3G?
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Mine is 900 and 2100 but I could have purchased one that was 850 and 2100.
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well i have flashed sbfs on my defy everytime i connect my defy shows 3630 hardware...what does it mean ? I mean it should b 3620 or somthing right ?
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The processor is actually a 3630. It was listed as a 2610 in the Defy and a 2620 in the Defy+ but they are just Motorola settings on the same 3630 processor.
Hii guys .. I'm a x10 user and I'm going to upgrade for a new phone but I have to chose betwen S3 and xperia S
So what you think about your xperia S and does it have a official miui fully working ??
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MIUI is fully working, but comparing the SGS3 to the XPS is just wrong. This phone is closer to the SGS2.
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MIUI is fully working, but comparing the SGS3 to the XPS is just wrong. This phone is closer to the SGS2.
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but comparing the SGS3 to the XPS is just wrong: only in benchmark.. same resolution screen, with better color screen (imho), better audio (walkman v sgs3's stock , imho), better camera (again, imho, the camera hardware though, ), and of course the lightbar
bigger battery (and easily removable too) and bigger storage is nice though but the different in battery only bout 1 hour (with same usage) and i think the 32 gB is just enough (u can always use usb-otg)
and i havent found any mali mp400 only games, yet there are some qualcomm's adreno-only game (but if u're not using adreno, u can buy and use chainfire3d )
and u need usb-jig to go to sgs3 download mode.. got me in panic mode when i was modding my friend's new sgs3
so.. your choice
SE (or Sony) came to the market with a inferior product, I m talking about dual core processor and it is S3 not even S4, and 6-10 months late.
On top of it
1. Hardware is just wrong, capacitative buttons are not responsive. It is a basic requirement, dammit. And what good does that transparent bottom does?
2. They advertised 1GB ram and now i came to realize (bought it only 3 days ago) that it is only 634mb ram and 450mb is almost always full with Sony crap running all the time. I had to freeze apps using Titanium to make sure i have enough memory for my apps.
3. Camera is not SE good. I own Xperia neo and SGS2 and i feel SXS camera is inferior to both.
4. Neither Bravia nor Xloud is working good. Low sound on in call speaker volume.
5. Sony fills your phone with all their junk which you ll never gonna use but have to pay for it with RAM. Also you cannot mount as USB connection on MAC as you ll need Sony Bridge for MAC and if you use it you cannot use Android File transfer provided by Google. Sony Bridge is crap as file transfer is at awful speed. (Again comparing to SGS2 which has mount as USB for ICS as well).
6. Screen has washed out colors and 720p doesnt feel any good. Even LG and Asus has better screens. I had LG optimus 2X and own Transforme prime.
7. Non removable battery and no option for micro SD. If you have non removable battery at least put higher capacity battery or make software good that battery lasts long.
8. And yeah it costs as much as HTC one x or SGS3.
May be i ll have something good to say after few weeks of use.
-K
It's OK. First of all, it sucks to go into a phone store and only found 1-2-3 different cases for the phone. SGS3 got alot more cases to choose from.
Second, yelloy tint problem many phones got, including mine (!).
Third, the sucky battery. It drains sooo fast.
Also very little available memory after ICS upgrade.
So its a OK phone, not that good and not that bad.
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I said what is the intention of publish this question in Xperia s Forum?
It's ridiculus. I've this phone and is excellent, i prefer Sony that other brands. But you choose that you want.
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Go for S3, it is a better phone than Xperia S in all the ways possible (maybe the screen is a matter of taste, but the rest...). Battery, GPU, CPU, Sound Quality (yes, sound quality, the chip that Samsung uses are really better, the sound of Xperia S is just OK, to be true it is worse than my old ex-phone, LG Optimus Black), camera (8MPX vs 12 MPX, its true, but the camera is more sharp, and dont make noise like Xperia S camera, imo a unacceptable noise), etc. The community is just huge! I don't want to diminish my fellow comrades, but Xperia S community is really small and with devs shortage (not complaining). I just have it because its the best phone i could get for free from my carrier. Not a bad phone, but far from be a incredible phone. In fact, it is not incredible in any area, but competent in almost all except battery (and maybe cam). A good phone and just it, a good phone.
Press thanks if i helped, please.
Reasons I prefer the Xperia S over SGSIII. Note that these are mostly subjective.
1) Xperia Timescape and Walkman apps. No TouchWiz. (moot point if you flash custom ROMs, but there goes the warranty)
2) Sharper, more color-accurate screen. SGSIII screen is greenish and fake-looking due to AMOLED.
3) Better physical build. I find Samsung phones to feel cheap and plasticky.
4) Looks better (according to my brother, the SGSIII is awesome because it looks so generic that any case looks good on it...?)
5) microHDMI + microUSB vs MHL.
6) Cheaper - in NZ. Xperia S is ~$600, SGSIII is ~$850, so it's a significant difference.
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SE (or Sony) came to the market with a inferior product, I m talking about dual core processor and it is S3 not even S4, and 6-10 months late.
On top of it
1. Hardware is just wrong, capacitative buttons are not responsive. It is a basic requirement, dammit. And what good does that transparent bottom does?
2. They advertised 1GB ram and now i came to realize (bought it only 3 days ago) that it is only 634mb ram and 450mb is almost always full with Sony crap running all the time. I had to freeze apps using Titanium to make sure i have enough memory for my apps.
3. Camera is not SE good. I own Xperia neo and SGS2 and i feel SXS camera is inferior to both.
4. Neither Bravia nor Xloud is working good. Low sound on in call speaker volume.
5. Sony fills your phone with all their junk which you ll never gonna use but have to pay for it with RAM. Also you cannot mount as USB connection on MAC as you ll need Sony Bridge for MAC and if you use it you cannot use Android File transfer provided by Google. Sony Bridge is crap as file transfer is at awful speed. (Again comparing to SGS2 which has mount as USB for ICS as well).
6. Screen has washed out colors and 720p doesnt feel any good. Even LG and Asus has better screens. I had LG optimus 2X and own Transforme prime.
7. Non removable battery and no option for micro SD. If you have non removable battery at least put higher capacity battery or make software good that battery lasts long.
8. And yeah it costs as much as HTC one x or SGS3.
May be i ll have something good to say after few weeks of use.
-K
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I have a lot of issues with the phone but I'm sorry you are on your own with all that. The xperia s is no where near as bad as you make it.
It's display is the best available. Viewing angles mean nothing in every day use and it's one of the best in direct sunlight which has more value. The camera is also the best available. It's not for point and shooting and so you need to take more time to get the best pictures but those pictures are the best of any smartphone. No phone has all ram available to the user do don't know what you're on about. The sensitivity of the capacity buttons are too low but I've used other phones where they have been too high and you keep hitting them inadvertently. You knew it had all its internals sealed in before you got so what's your beef and no it doesn't cost as much as other high end phones.
Back to OP, the GS3 is faster and smoother but not by a long way in real world performance. Just benchmarks much higher.
I'd say, go down to the phone shop and try out both before making up your mind.
Having said don't choose the Sony under any circumstances if android software is a big deal for because in that department Sony are notoriously very poor. Their ICS update was later than all their major competitors and is far from ready. It needs a lot of work still doing to it. It's slower than gingerbread with a lot of slowdowns and glitches here and there.
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Sound Quality (yes, sound quality, the chip that Samsung uses are really better, the sound of Xperia S is just OK,
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The Xperia S has very harsh treble and meh mids with the stock Walkman player on default equalizer settings, but it can easily be tuned to sound as good as a dedicated Walkman player.
I have an old S series Walkman and prefer the audio quality of the Xperia S.
I'm using a good pair of Shure IEM and a decent portable amp (not really needed) and the only fault I can find with the audio is that the gsm/3g radio tends to interfere with the sound a bit when I use the shure earphones with the amp.
I had a Galaxy TAB a while ago which has the wolfson dac and I never liked it (don't know about the GS3 but maybe it's improved?), even after tweaking the audio for a long time using Poweramp.
Also, the Sony Walkman app sounds far better than both Winamp pro and poweramp.
dSayonarab said:
Reasons I prefer the Xperia S over SGSIII. Note that these are mostly subjective.
2) Sharper, more color-accurate screen. SGSIII screen is greenish and fake-looking due to AMOLED.
3) Better physical build. I find Samsung phones to feel cheap and plasticky.
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Spot on! that's why we should not buy mobiles by reading internet reviews and forums posts.
I'm happy with my Xperia S no complains just enjoying its features. Everyone should be happy they have their own phone too. Sony, Samsung, LG, HTC, iPhone etc.. Whatever brand it is. Just learn how to appreciate what you have. This is just my opinion again I'm enjoying my Xperia S
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Reason why I got xs instead of s3: its cheaper!
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brunodmjr said:
Go for S3, it is a better phone than Xperia S in all the ways possible (maybe the screen is a matter of taste, but the rest...). Battery, GPU, CPU, Sound Quality (yes, sound quality, the chip that Samsung uses are really better, the sound of Xperia S is just OK, to be true it is worse than my old ex-phone, LG Optimus Black), camera (8MPX vs 12 MPX, its true, but the camera is more sharp, and dont make noise like Xperia S camera, imo a unacceptable noise), etc. The community is just huge! I don't want to diminish my fellow comrades, but Xperia S community is really small and with devs shortage (not complaining). I just have it because its the best phone i could get for free from my carrier. Not a bad phone, but far from be a incredible phone. In fact, it is not incredible in any area, but competent in almost all except battery (and maybe cam). A good phone and just it, a good phone.
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Galaxy s3 isn't 200 dollars better which is the price difference. And its an ugly phone.
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ksekhar said:
SE (or Sony) came to the market with a inferior product, I m talking about dual core processor and it is S3 not even S4, and 6-10 months late.
On top of it
1. Hardware is just wrong, capacitative buttons are not responsive. It is a basic requirement, dammit. And what good does that transparent bottom does?
2. They advertised 1GB ram and now i came to realize (bought it only 3 days ago) that it is only 634mb ram and 450mb is almost always full with Sony crap running all the time. I had to freeze apps using Titanium to make sure i have enough memory for my apps.
3. Camera is not SE good. I own Xperia neo and SGS2 and i feel SXS camera is inferior to both.
4. Neither Bravia nor Xloud is working good. Low sound on in call speaker volume.
5. Sony fills your phone with all their junk which you ll never gonna use but have to pay for it with RAM. Also you cannot mount as USB connection on MAC as you ll need Sony Bridge for MAC and if you use it you cannot use Android File transfer provided by Google. Sony Bridge is crap as file transfer is at awful speed. (Again comparing to SGS2 which has mount as USB for ICS as well).
6. Screen has washed out colors and 720p doesnt feel any good. Even LG and Asus has better screens. I had LG optimus 2X and own Transforme prime.
7. Non removable battery and no option for micro SD. If you have non removable battery at least put higher capacity battery or make software good that battery lasts long.
8. And yeah it costs as much as HTC one x or SGS3.
Dude it has 1gb of ram
the system
May be i ll have something good to say after few weeks of use.
-K
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It has 1gb of ram, the system takes up almost 400mb. Also onex is 100 dollars more while sgs3 is 200 more. If I would get another phone it would be a nexus. Both the other 2 have their issues too.
sparxx4 said:
Hii guys .. I'm a x10 user and I'm going to upgrade for a new phone but I have to chose betwen S3 and xperia S
So what you think about your xperia S and does it have a official miui fully working ??
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Well, it depends on what you like/want from your phone:
1) If you want the fastest android till date with earlier software updates/lots of roms along with external memory & replaceable battery: Go for SGS3
2) If you want an android with best camera till date, brilliant screen & eye catching design, and relatively cheaper: Go for SXS
I have been using Xperia S for over 3 months now and am quite pleased with it overall, no major issues so far (except for a few bugs in current ICS build by sony). Also compared it to my friends SGS3 & was pleased to see my SXS almost matching the real world performance of SGS3!
And yes, as aready stated, fully functional/official MIUI is available for SXS (myself currently on MIUI build 2.8.3 which fast, smooth & most stable build so far).
Also, i recommend you to check both of them out at local demo stores and then decide it for yourself!
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Well, it depends on what you like/want from your phone:
1) If you want the fastest android with earliest software updates/lots of roms along with external memory & replaceable battery: Go for SGS3
2) If you want an android with best camera till date, brilliant screen & eye catching design, and relatively cheaper: Go for SXS
I have been using Xperia S for over 3 months now and am quite pleased with it overall, no major issues so far (except for a few bugs in current ICS build by sony). Also compared it to my friends SGS3 & was pleased to see my SXS almost matching the real world performance of SGS3!
And yes, as aready stated, fully functional/official MIUI is available for SXS (myself currently on MIUI build 2.8.3 which fast, smooth & most stable build so far).
Also, i recommend you to check both of them out at local demo stores and then decide it for yourself!
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Galaxy Nexus has its updates the quickest because it is directly from google and it is running vanilla android. It has one of the biggest dev communities and it is easy to unlock the bootloader for it, the gs3 is hard to mod and you need a special usb tool
btw, the xperia s is an amazing phone, it looks great with the lightbar and the performance is great, even with the snapdragon s3, sony knows how to optimize the software for snapdragon chipsets
Xperia S on Gingerbread was great but on ICS its crap...
You will be irritated by the terrible multitasking of Xperia S on ICS...
Its just a software issue n can be fixed...
If you want upto date performance and may be good software support go for SGS3 ..
Go for Sony Xpria S if you care about looks, decent performance (Compared to SGS 3) n can wait for an update to solve the ICS issues on Xperia S..
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Xperia S on Gingerbread was great but on ICS its crap...
You will be irritated by the terrible multitasking of Xperia S on ICS...
Its just a software issue n can be fixed...
If you want upto date performance and may be good software support go for SGS3 ..
Go for Sony Xpria S if you care about looks, decent performance (Compared to SGS 3) n can wait for an update to solve the ICS issues on Xperia S..
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the galaxy s3 suffers the same multitasking issues of the xs.
if you need apps to remain open without them being closed by the os get a phone with 2gb of ram.
I had a SGS2 last year, went to the Xperia Play, which to be honest was an awesome phone, sucked the bootloader was locked.
Picked up ths SXS last month and I prefer it over the s2.
I have a friend with a s3, I think they are ugly and clunky. Its trying to be a iPhone.
Been flashing roms to find the right one for me, and its seems to be a hard phone to brick.
I use it for my main MP3 player at night (Due to ringing in the ears), it barely looses any battery playing all night.
Headphones sucked a bit, but picked up some Skullcandy and the phone drives them perfectly.
I'd recommend th SXS to anyone.
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Galaxy Nexus has its updates the quickest because it is directly from google and it is running vanilla android. It has one of the biggest dev communities and it is easy to unlock the bootloader for it, the gs3 is hard to mod and you need a special usb tool
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Right, my bad! Hence, i stand corrected & use the word "earlier" instead of "earliest".
I had HTC Desire for nearly 3 years, and it is a great phone, but I think it is time to upgrade, because:
- it is annoyingly slow with my regular set of programs installed, even on fastest available roms
- it doesn't have kernel 3.0, and because of that JB roms have shortcomings
- a little bit too small screen for GPS navigation
- really crappy camera
- somewhat short battery life
Some time ago I had a chance to look at Galaxy S2 in person and it looked like a perfect phone (at least for 2 minutes I had it in my hands).
Somewhat bigger screen, more internal storage, kernel 3.0.
I use custom roms, so big development community is important for me. I have been spoiled by Desire as it (still) has a large one.
Galaxy S2 would cost me around 170-200 euro to get it.
Should I take that, or look for something else in this price range?
My requirements:
- larger screen (not necessarily much larger)
- android (duh)
- solid build quality
- large development community
- noticeably faster CPU than Desire (Dual+ core would come in handy)
- microUSB
- good/very good camera
- good battery life
- price up to 200 euro (used)
- would be nice if it had FM transmitter (not receiver) but it is not necessary
- it must by BLACK or therebout
I also considered s2 but there's one serious setback to it. Namely, the screen is amoled and without pentile matrix.
What's bad about it you ask? pixels that are frequently used lose color and items that you have on screen for most time are somewhat paler than the rest of the screen, and you can see their shadow for the whole time, ppl reported that with all amoled displays and non pentile of s2 is even more susceptible to that. That happens even to devices 3 months old, depending on how heavily they are used I guess. You can google it to see for yourself, just type galaxy s2 amoled burn in. There are also few good YouTube vids showing that. Items that you usually can see are burned in status bar, soft keys from your most used app, keyboard, alarm icon and "fully charged" sign across the screen as during night charging the phone lights up when battery is full and keeps the screen on until you turn it off or unplug it/on some ROMs at least, stock including/.
Is Desire not affected by that?
Then what else would you suggest?
Only first edition of desire pvt1 I believe had amoled screens, the rest are sporting slcd which is not organic and does not suffer from this burn in effect.
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I had HTC Desire for nearly 3 years, and it is a great phone, but I think it is time to upgrade, because:
- it is annoyingly slow with my regular set of programs installed, even on fastest available roms
- it doesn't have kernel 3.0, and because of that JB roms have shortcomings
- a little bit too small screen for GPS navigation
- really crappy camera
- somewhat short battery life
Some time ago I had a chance to look at Galaxy S2 in person and it looked like a perfect phone (at least for 2 minutes I had it in my hands).
Somewhat bigger screen, more internal storage, kernel 3.0.
I use custom roms, so big development community is important for me. I have been spoiled by Desire as it (still) has a large one.
Galaxy S2 would cost me around 170-200 euro to get it.
Should I take that, or look for something else in this price range?
My requirements:
- larger screen (not necessarily much larger)
- android (duh)
- solid build quality
- large development community
- noticeably faster CPU than Desire (Dual+ core would come in handy)
- microUSB
- good/very good camera
- good battery life
- price up to 200 euro (used)
- would be nice if it had FM transmitter (not receiver) but it is not necessary
- it must by BLACK or therebout
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Go for SGS2+. It is newer phone, available almost at the same price as SGS2, probably have warranty and no burn-in effect of any major cosmetic wear.
But I think there is no black variant, but dark blue.
Price is 200-230 EUR.
HTC sensation
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dvd777 said:
Go for SGS2+. It is newer phone, available almost at the same price as SGS2, probably have warranty and no burn-in effect of any major cosmetic wear.
But I think there is no black variant, but dark blue.
Price is 200-230 EUR.
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What is the model number of that one? Galaxies have very confusing customer names.
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What is the model number of that one? Galaxies have very confusing customer names.
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I9105 if l'm not mistaken.
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S2+ makes no sense, is more expensive than regular s2, has same screen with same setbacks and worse gpu, videocoreiv vs Mali 400.
Sensation seems good, but I've got no experience with that phone.
If you want a dev community supporting your device, avoid htc phones. HTC is terribly slow when it comes to releasing updates and sources.
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What you like
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If you want a dev community supporting your device, avoid htc phones. HTC is terribly slow when it comes to releasing updates and sources.
If I helped, hit the thanks button!
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I disagree with you. But again, it is on him to pick something that he likes. We are here to suggest him.
I like HTC Because of Sense,speed (on some new devices) new features big rom list's etc. I dont like samsung bcs every new phone (LG,ZTE,Nokia,Sony, and many more) are copy of Samsung,Same android UI, same phone design i will say. JUST A COPY .
HTC Have some original from begining of production for me that is a great and like i sayed i will suggest you to buy some HTC Model (HTC One X, HTC Sensation.not new but very good, HTC One v (it is not so special but it is very good,speed, and it is very Cheap)
But if you want to buy some other phone mark Yes i will suggest you to but SGSII or SGSIII Mini. Mini have small Display but have great camera great speed great support and what is importatt you can find it for 170/80 Eur
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+1 for the sensation, i baught mine used for 100 euro and its like brand new, i got it off a guy cheap coz it was stuck in bootloader lol, i got it home, flashed a ruu then s-off & rooted and it has great dev support, loads of sense roms, 3.5 - 3.6 - 4.1 - 4+ and now waiting for team venom to release sense 5. Also loads of JB - AOSP roms and 4.3 JB roms, really is a great phone with good hardware to handle all roms.
About sensation, the newer roms have working camera/video or is it stuck with that issue like our old desires?
And how do you cope without the trackpad, I tend to write lengthy emails/forum posts and it's a great tool when I want too correct something, yet no other phone has it. does it mean trouble for guys like me?
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About sensation, the newer roms have working camera/video or is it stuck with that issue like our old desires?
And how do you cope without the trackpad, I tend to write lengthy emails/forum posts and it's a great tool when I want too correct something, yet no other phone has it. does it mean trouble for guys like me?
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everything works, and i never really used trackpad on the desire.
I would never buy sensation. Death grip issues and dust under screen glass is way too much for me. Sgs2+ is ftw in my opinion.
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Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...
impactor said:
Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...
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What bout One X/S? In ireland they going for bout 175 - 225 euro, good all round phone and fairly solid.
One S would be good bargain, but no official 4.2.2 for him. He is eol already, unfortunately. One X is expensive, like S3.
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My friend is selling his One X for 200 euro in mint condition, he dont use it, its just sitting in his drawer. I was gona buy it but i always wanted a sensation lol. If ur interested i could say to him, he has it a while so maybe i can get it cheaper for u. Postage would be round 10 euro. Let me know
P.S - im not dodgy r that, user k3lcior had no gps antenna so i gave him mine from my desire (coz my desire is dead), free of charge, and i posted it to poland.
well if I may make a suggestion, I would say get the Nexus 4
Pros: (according to what you listed)
larger screen and clearer screen
will always have the latest and greatest Android OS since its from Google
I don't remember the build quality on it but I know its at least better than the desire
haven't checked the dev support but since its a bit more open.... should still be better than the desire
very fast 1.5GHz quad-core CPU
microUSB
8MP camera and a 1.3MP front cam
decent 2,100 mAh battery
and most importantly it comes in Black
Cons:
its $300 which about 224 euros (so slightly over budget although sorta worth it)
no FM trasmitter
limited storage and no SD card expansion
so really its an amazing phone, its mainly only brought down by not having an SD card slot but if you find the 8 or 16GB models fine then I'd say go for it.