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Leaving my OP in place, but I have rewritten the description with much more detail and pics here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25401417#post25401417
I suggest skipping to there.
I am looking for general tips here. E.g., not asking you to diagnose my specific problem so much as give me ideas of what else to check or try.
Lately I have had unexplained (to me) battery drain. Yesterday I lost about 25 percent in an hour while the phone idled. It is not a constant thing, though. I can go an hour and loose 1 percent then loose massive amounts in the next hour.
Now, i have searched, but I have not found anything that applies to me.
I have:
Tried a different radio
Tried a different kernel
Reflashed my rom
Phone is entering deep sleep according to cpu spy
There are no unusual or excessive wake locks according to better battery stats
No apps are using a lot of battery.
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
Ideas?
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
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might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
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beren28 said:
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
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So I don't think I can blame it on that.
Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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can you give us screen shots of battery stats?
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Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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I do, and on reflection it is a possible culprit since I added it recently.
Didn't occur to me since it was producing no wakelocks and the battery stats did not showing as using much battery.
I shall turn it off for a bit and see if that helps. (unless there is some other way to test if it is the problem first.) I am off to the search button!
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This is from yesterday when i set it down unused for about 90 minutes. The amount of wakes seems liek a lot, but it is similar to what i see when i have far far less drain, so I don't think that is the problem. I didn't get the app list screen, but out should screen as the only major drain with about 2 minutes.
I know it is shows poor signal strength, so immediately after that shot I put it in airplane mode, turned of sync, and rebooted. The battery continued to drain and graph had the exact same slope under those conditions. (Forget to get a pic though.)
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System panel paid version with monitoring enabled is the best for tracking apps using CPU.
OK, still working on this.
To recap:
When the screen is off, and no apps are running I sometimes get inexplicable battery drain. This is occurring under conditions when I should be experiencing little or no drain at all. I say this becuase:
The screen is of and no bakground apps are running
the phone is NOT awake and IS entering deep sleep (as confirmed by cpuspy)
there are no unusual kernel or partial wake locks
there are no apps listed as using unexpected ammounts of battery
This is not a universal problem. The phone *often* behaves as expected. I can leave the phone off for an hour and see a 1% or 2% drain, and I am happy with that. However, sometimes, randomly, it goes nuts on my.
This graph from a few weeks ago shows what I mean. Look in the green box. The phone is sleeping, and the screen is off. The graph starts as a flatline, then, all of a sudden, it begins to drop precipitously.
Here is a graph that shows the battery dropping at the same rate whether the phone is awake or sleeping:
I have gone the following to try and narrow the problem down:
Done a completely fresh install of my Rom including a system wipe.
Tried two kernels (the aokp default and several relases of Franco's
Tried a different radio
Activated and installed a new sim card
I have come to suspect that the problem is network related. When the problem starts, sometimes going into airplane mode and back and/or toggling 2g only temporarily fixes the problem.
I suspect that something is happening with my connection to T-Mobile that keeps the network running and draining power. This is pure speculation, but it is all I can think of.
I installed juice defender (which I had not been previously running) and noticed the that, sometimes, it didn't turn of data when it should have. I also noticed the following two things happen:
I do not believe it is a rom problem, since if so, someone else would be reporting this. It might be an app problem, but if so the app is draining battery without a wake lock and while the phone is in deep sleep.
It is not exchange (as was suggested in this thread) since it continues when I ev my exchange account.
I have no idea what else to do or try.
Since it happens at random and takes a while to identify, uninstalling one app at a time to test for that could easily take months to narrow down a misbehaving app.
I know it is not a hardware issue since last month I got this:
That was with AOKP and Franco (earlier versions obviously)
I have google searched till my fingers bleed.
I am a long way form being an expert, and I suspect I may have overlooked something obvious.
Please, any thoughts??
Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
Here is that chart for last night.
I had about 1 hour and 30 minutes screen on time with 65% left when I went to bed. When I woke up, phone was dead.
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Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
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Mine often does that. But sometimes it doesn't. It is the fact that it happens seemingly at random that makes it so annoying and hard to track down.
I would replace the battery
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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The thought has occurred to me, but unfortunately, no, I don't have a friend I can swap with. And really, since I have had the phone less than 3 months, the battery *shouldn't* be bad, but yeah, defective products happen.
If I cannot find any other cause I will likely order a new battery and see if that fixes it.
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"? Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
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You are incorrect. But, in any case, I DID calibrate the battery just to cover bases in the case that I was wrong.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"?
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We'll of course it can. That is kinda my point. If I go one app at a time waiting for it to "run a process at random" I am talking literally MONTHS of testing. I would have to wait many hours, if not days after installing or uninstalling an app to be sure whether or not it made a difference, then move on the the next. This is simply not an option. I started this thread in hopes that a realistic and doable solution might exist that I was unaware of.
Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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I am asking because there may be a solution that I am unaware of that doesn't require me to put my entire life on hold for months. It is possible that there is no such solution, but I asked in case there was one.
Sorry to have put you out so much.
You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
when i did a complete quote and re flash i did not setup the exchange account, but the issue continued.
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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I'll check that out. Thanks.
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My battery also drains at a rate similar to yours however I'm on the CDMA version. Hopefully you can figure out what's going on with yours.
I am seeing a lot of kernel wakelocks from this in BBS, but can't find anything about it online. Does anyone know what it is?
First time I see it today, so I searched and I see you have the same problem.
Today is the first day I've been on 3G (no LTE in my area) all day, with WiFi disconnected, and BetterBatteryStats shows FastDormancy and mdm_hsic_pm0
Causally related? I am fairly sure FastDormancy is causally related to the 3g stuff, but not sure about mdm_hsic_pm0 - it's possible?
I'm on the i317M, though, so maybe that could help us troubleshoot.
Yes, I have indeed seen other reports of mdm and FastDormancy occurring simultaneously, but I don't have FastDormancy at all.
I have been unable to find any info on mdm since this post. There are a couple threads like this on other forums, so far none with answers though. It appears it is occurring with the GS3, as well.
If anyone else has any info, it would be much appreciated....
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I am seeing a lot of kernel wakelocks from this in BBS, but can't find anything about it online. Does anyone know what it is?
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I am getting the same thing which is driving me nuts. I loose more battery overnight while sleeping then during the day when I sporadically use my device due to this.
Anyone?
i'm having this wakelock as well. can't find any information on it...anyone else?
People are saying in another thread that it's the "l2 hsic" for jellybean and it has to do with charging. One possible solution is to wake phone and go to home screen before unplugging charger. Also pulling battery for a couple minutes may help.
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People are saying in another thread that it's the "l2 hsic" for jellybean and it has to do with charging. One possible solution is to wake phone and go to home screen before unplugging charger. Also pulling battery for a couple minutes may help.
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Thanks for the info. Can you link to that thread?
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Thanks for the info. Can you link to that thread?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957906
i still have this wakelock and cant figure out what is causing it...
I Disabled Fast Dormancy and that wake lock disappeared.
I'm not sure if we can get rid of the mdm_hsic_pm0 one.
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First time I see it today, so I searched and I see you have the same problem.
Today is the first day I've been on 3G (no LTE in my area) all day, with WiFi disconnected, and BetterBatteryStats shows FastDormancy and mdm_hsic_pm0
Causally related? I am fairly sure FastDormancy is causally related to the 3g stuff, but not sure about mdm_hsic_pm0 - it's possible?
I'm on the i317M, though, so maybe that could help us troubleshoot.
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Bump, any updates on this?
Double Bump!
Like a camel!
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Finally, humanity is defeated by software bug
Just a hunch, this might have something to do with location or GPS. My wakelock with this doubled with GPS on for the day. While I had roughly the same amount of wakelocks from the Google maps location updaters.
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any update on this? Recently happend to me and i went from 38 hours battery life to 18. Now granted yes thats still good. Nonetheless i want this to stop.
I am getting this same wakelock and it's seriously getting on my nerves. My phone rarely ever gets to enter deep sleep because of this. Is this related to certain ROMs or is it effecting all note IIs?
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Hey guys I'm from the Verizon Note 2. I actually made a search on Google this morning and it led me hear. I recently noticed a decrease in my battery life and seem to have the same problem as you guys, mine only caused about 35mins of wake time yesterday but if we could remove it the better for all of us.
There's also stuff I'm not really aware of if I can freeze or trash it all together. I'm new to this battery stats app. I added other pictures of possible stuff killing my battery, it seemed ebay mobile was a contender as well so i trashed it lol. I'm also on a custom ROM.
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Probably the single.best thing you can do for your battery is to get. Google maps to stop reporting your location all day.
Go into the settings of Maps and disable reporting, unless you need it for something of course.
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MeetFace said:
Probably the single.best thing you can do for your battery is to get. Google maps to stop reporting your location all day.
Go into the settings of Maps and disable reporting, unless you need it for something of course.
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Which as far as I can tell has nothing to do with this specific wakelock, which sometimes causes my phone to never go into deep sleep.
Yes, maps is obnoxious and causes plenty of its own wakelocks, but if mdm_hsic_pm0 is keeping my phone awake 100% of the time it's pretty irrelevant.
Hi guys,
Though I have been reading these threads for quite some time now, I just joined so that I can post the issue that I am facing.
I am rooted and using Liquidsmooth v2.4
I am facing a battery issue. Battery life is short. I never survived more than 2 hours of screen time on my device which I know from these forums that is not normal.
The stuff I have tried but didn't help:
Wiped and factory reset on several occasions, both using the settings function and CWM
Flashed various roms (Cyanogen Mod, Carbon, Liquidsmooth, Stock rom)
Unroot to stock and root again
Changed to various more battery friendly CPU governors
Changed battery with a friend who is using the international version (which is using the same battery according to the Samsung website)
I am not in the states now and the local Samsung service centre refused to service it because they don't have the appropriate parts and also due to the difference in software. (I unrooted it and restored to stock before sending in.) They just looked at the model number and refused service; didn't do anything more.
I have attached some screenshots. There are no obvious wakelock issues and no app in particular is draining the battery. 50% power used on screen appears to be normal. The rest of the apps also look like they are behaving themselves, at least power consumption wise. I am not a very heavy user and don't run any games/apps that are huge in resource requirements. Email/facebook/browsing are my main activities.
The current settings on my phone:
Auto brightness
Wifi/bluetooth/GPS all off
Autosync is off by default but will use it sparingly if I need to.
Almost all of my apps have their notifications off and all apps are set to sync manually.
I only have one calender widget on my home screen, no others elsewhere.
CPU Governor is "ondemand", iO scheduler is "row". Min/max freqency: 384/1512 MHz
Juicedefender is enabled with "aggressive" (I know its effectiveness is controversial but on my device, disabling it eats more battery)
Any help is appreciated. "Thanks" will be awarded to all who post!
Thank you!
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Hi guys,
Though I have been reading these threads for quite some time now, I just joined so that I can post the issue that I am facing.
I am rooted and using Liquidsmooth v2.4
I am facing a battery issue. Battery life is short. I never survived more than 2 hours of screen time on my device which I know from these forums that is not normal.
The stuff I have tried but didn't help:
Wiped and factory reset on several occasions, both using the settings function and CWM
Flashed various roms (Cyanogen Mod, Carbon, Liquidsmooth, Stock rom)
Unroot to stock and root again
Changed to various more battery friendly CPU governors
Changed battery with a friend who is using the international version (which is using the same battery according to the Samsung website)
I am not in the states now and the local Samsung service centre refused to service it because they don't have the appropriate parts and also due to the difference in software. (I unrooted it and restored to stock before sending in.) They just looked at the model number and refused service; didn't do anything more.
I have attached some screenshots. There are no obvious wakelock issues and no app in particular is draining the battery. 50% power used on screen appears to be normal. The rest of the apps also look like they are behaving themselves, at least power consumption wise. I am not a very heavy user and don't run any games/apps that are huge in resource requirements. Email/facebook/browsing are my main activities.
The current settings on my phone:
Auto brightness
Wifi/bluetooth/GPS all off
Autosync is off by default but will use it sparingly if I need to.
Almost all of my apps have their notifications off and all apps are set to sync manually.
I only have one calender widget on my home screen, no others elsewhere.
CPU Governor is "ondemand", iO scheduler is "row". Min/max freqency: 384/1512 MHz
Juicedefender is enabled with "aggressive" (I know its effectiveness is controversial but on my device, disabling it eats more battery)
Any help is appreciated. "Thanks" will be awarded to all who post!
Thank you!
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I see horrendous wakelocking. Install BetterBatteryStats. Charge it up for a bit, reboot the phone, then let it idle for a couple hours. Then post screenshots of everything.
It might be the worst I've ever seen. Good news is it's probably not a hardware issue.
It also looks like half the time you had a poor signal. Data transfer on a poor signal can wat at your battery too.
Always use wifi when available.
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thanks folks. I've installed better battery stats and will update shots accordingly at the end of the day or end of the battery cycle(probably won't last a day)
Really appreciate the help.
Here are the shots for today.
I rethinked about the poor reception comment and wondered if any of my radios are malfunctioning or if my radios can work in the frequency bands here in Singapore. I called my local service provider to ask about the frequency bands and.it appears that my device's radios can recieve the GSM bands here although they suspect 3G may be an issue. Nothing concrete but I do hope to find out if that could be a possible reason for my battery drain.
I managed to squeeze past 2 hrs of screen time today by using as much wifi as I possibly can. This improvement in battery life probably means that data reception can really be an issue. It's not unlikely that both my home and workplace suffers from.bad reception but i do have a Q. If poor reception is an.issue, will the battery consumption by cell radio sky rocket?
For some reason the previous battery stats screenshots was only for about 5 hrs. i have refreshed and have uploaded the refreshed screenshots
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Here are the shots for today.
I rethinked about the poor reception comment and wondered if any of my radios are malfunctioning or if my radios can work in the frequency bands here in Singapore. I called my local service provider to ask about the frequency bands and.it appears that my device's radios can recieve the GSM bands here although they suspect 3G may be an issue. Nothing concrete but I do hope to find out if that could be a possible reason for my battery drain.
I managed to squeeze past 2 hrs of screen time today by using as much wifi as I possibly can. This improvement in battery life probably means that data reception can really be an issue. It's not unlikely that both my home and workplace suffers from.bad reception but i do have a Q. If poor reception is an.issue, will the battery consumption by cell radio sky rocket?
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This is not BetterBatteryStats. We already know your battery life blows. I want to know why, and BBS will tell me. I can't do a thing for you until you show me that. I think there is a free version on the forums, but it's cheap in the Play Store, and worth it. Get Greenify, too. You're going to need it. Greenify will prevent notifications from showing up for greenified apps. If you don't need notifications from Facebook (honestly, who does?), Greenify it. Maps, too. And disable Juice Defender for now, so I can see what is really happening.
Poor cell reception, if not on wifi, causes drain, yes. It seems to only get really bad when the phone can't hold a data connection.
Try turning off GPS. Also under Settings > Backup and Reset, turn off the Back Up My Data option.
Additionally, check the stickies in this forum. Woody has a fantastic Battery Thread that you should read if you haven't already.
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Type betterbatterystats xda on Google. It'll link you to the official thread where you can install the free apk file.
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Thanks everyone! I sheepishly searched better battery stats on Google play and.simply installed the first that popped up without looking closely. My bad. I've purchased the app and will post up screenshots soon. I didn't manage to grab the shots today as my batt went flat before I could. Should have kept a better eye.
Will certainly post up screen shots tomorrow.
PS: My GPS has been offed by default. Will disabling Google backup services help?
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Thanks everyone! I sheepishly searched better battery stats on Google play and.simply installed the first that popped up without looking closely. My bad. I've purchased the app and will post up screenshots soon. I didn't manage to grab the shots today as my batt went flat before I could. Should have kept a better eye.
Will certainly post up screen shots tomorrow.
PS: My GPS has been offed by default. Will disabling Google backup services help?
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It cant hurt your battery life! Theres a number of things you can do for settings. Read woodys thread stickied here as its pretty much all there. One of the big batt drainers can be auto brightness btw.
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Once you get a good cycle run with BBS, the screen shots we want to see are Since Unplugged/Process and Since Unplugged/Partial Wakelocks. Those two will help tell what is eating your battery and also what is causing all those wakelocks in your original screen shots.
If you are using Juice Defender, that will contribute to the wakelocks (but doesn't keep your device from entering Deep Sleep, so no worries there). I use it, but I have mine set up custom plus have done some basic build.prop edits regarding the RILs and wifi_supplicant_intervals.
My suspicion is that there is a rogue app that is transmitting data somewhere and that is not letting you sleep. If it is transmitting in a poor reception area then that puts ever more strain of things. You are not the first and wont be the last but Doc, Aero and I can help you figure it out.
Images for today. I've included a few more shots for the items that appear lower in the lists.
I've installed greenify but did not add any apps while collecting these data. Juicedefender is also disabled. My screen time was less than 2 hrs.
I did some of the stuff listed in Woody's informative thread. Deleting the tombstone files, lost&found files etc.
Thanks for everyone's help. Hope to solve this issue soon.
Get Greenify from the play store.
Greenify:
Maps
Facebook
Google Now
Take more pictures with BetterBatteryStats tomorrow.
Looks like Maps is misbehaving. Terrible coding is terrible.
Yup. Looks like you are broadcasting your location all over the place. Do you use Maps? If not close it and Greenify it.
Are you getting notifications from Facebook or have a "Check-in" thing going on?
Google Now>Settings> turn off what you don't use.
Settings>Location> Off.
Edit: Tombstones and Lost.dir files are just memory management and have nothing to do with battery.
Shots for today. Things are a little better but looking at my screen usage, maybe there's still a lot of room for improvement.
I've greenified just about all apps that may run in the background. Facebook, Maps, Google+, Gmail, Chrome, Google Search (I converted it into user app), dropbox, etc. Whatsapp, Viber and Wechat are spared as I needed them to be able to notify incoming messages. Juicedefender is on, with advanced settings - set to sync only once an hour. Maps have been set not to update my location although I didn't go to the extent of denying location access ( I use maps fairly often).
All these are rather aggressive steps and I do see improvement. What else can be done? Other than my messengers, all my notifications are essentially off.
Once again, thank you everyone for your time and effort.
Please stop using Juice Defender. I want to see what your battery life looks like without it now. And it's also responsible for the majority of your wakelocks. And if you could get us some ~4 hour idle BBS stats (during sleepy time), that would be fantastic.
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Please stop using Juice Defender. I want to see what your battery life looks like without it now. And it's also responsible for the majority of your wakelocks. And if you could get us some ~4 hour idle BBS stats (during sleepy time), that would be fantastic.
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Noted. I'll charge my phone up and take some shots in the morning. Juicedefender will be disabled and hopefully more information will be revealed. Do today's shots show any improvement?
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Noted. I'll charge my phone up and take some shots in the morning. Juicedefender will be disabled and hopefully more information will be revealed. Do today's shots show any improvement?
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I think you are heading in the right direction (8% deep sleep improvement). For this next test, please disable Juice Defender (don't turn it off through the app, but disable it in the app manager to make sure it can't run). Also, I'm hoping to get a test where the screen isn't on for more than a couple seconds, so I can get an accurate reading on the usage per hour.
I suspect the rest of your issues (bam_dmux_wakelock), are due to a bad cell connection for a good chunk of the time. Connecting to a wifi network will solve that. If you don't have a wifi network, you can turn on airplane mode, or set up some Tasker profiles to help with that.
Out of curiosity, how bright do you have your screen set? Obviously its a big drainer, but it seems like every time your screen is on the batt level plummets.
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i am new on note2 using custom rom 4.1.2 i feel last night my battery drain at least 13% whole night on standby.my early s3 take only 1% on standby whole night.
relisys667 said:
i am new on note2 using custom rom 4.1.2 i feel last night my battery drain at least 13% whole night on standby.my early s3 take only 1% on standby whole night.
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S3 only 1%? Wow that's awesome.. WiFi and Data On?
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relisys667 said:
i am new on note2 using custom rom 4.1.2 i feel last night my battery drain at least 13% whole night on standby.my early s3 take only 1% on standby whole night.
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13% is ODD. Something is sucking up your battery.
Expand your Android system and post the Screenshot - want to look at cpu wake time.
What is your setting under - Advanced Wifi options - while asleep - wifi on or off ?
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13% is ODD. Something is sucking up your battery.
Expand your Android system and post the Screenshot - want to look at cpu wake time.
What is your setting under - Advanced Wifi options - while asleep - wifi on or off ?
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now i set wifi sleep to never and watch this night
thnx for replying
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13% is ODD. Something is sucking up your battery.
Expand your Android system and post the Screenshot - want to look at cpu wake time.
What is your setting under - Advanced Wifi options - while asleep - wifi on or off ?
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To be honest I have done so many tweaks to help with wakelocks. It is definately not an app but the standby time is sooo much worse on my Note in comparision to my HTC One S. I'll get about a day regardless of screen time. On my One S I'll get 2 days with the same screen time and with the same apps.
The only thing I can think of it being is that mdm_hsic kernel wakelock. Have no clue what to do about that though, and it's clearly a Samsung/Note 2 bug given that the HTC doesn't have this sucking away the standby time.
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Do you have ebay app installed?
Try uninstalling and see if this makes a difference. The ebay process/service constantly runs in background even tho its disabled in app settings and doesn't show battery usage.
I had same problem and found that its to blame!
unFKNreal said:
Do you have ebay app installed?
Try uninstalling and see if this makes a difference. The ebay process/service constantly runs in background even tho its disabled in app settings and doesn't show battery usage.
I had same problem and found that its to blame!
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The thing is, I also have the ebay app on my HTC and it doesn't suffer from this problem. The HTC is 4.1.1 though so I'm guessing this is either a Samsung problem or a 4.1.2 problem.
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relisys667 said:
i am new on note2 using custom rom 4.1.2 i feel last night my battery drain at least 13% whole night on standby.my early s3 take only 1% on standby whole night.
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hi,just a few pointers to think about ....?
i am on stock 4.1.2 not rooted ,and my avarage battery drain overnight (10/11 hrs +) is 2%..or ..3 %.
i also have a note8.0 and battery drain is normally 1% in standby mode overnight (10/11 hrs )also on 4.1.2
lucky ? no i don't think so .
(maybe i got my all "tweaks " right..no ?)
just a few pointers (things to think about, why others get better results and others not,in this case on 4.1.2 )
good luck
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Do you have ebay app installed?
Try uninstalling and see if this makes a difference. The ebay process/service constantly runs in background even tho its disabled in app settings and doesn't show battery usage.
I had same problem and found that its to blame!
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no dear brother i have not installed any ebay app
relisys667 said:
no dear brother i have not installed any ebay app
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Do you have any Battery manager apps installed? I had one that constantly pulled WiFi status and since I have WiFi disabled when outside of home or work it kept on turning it on/off and drained my battery. It was my error for configuring it wrongly, I admit but still, that may happen without control.
Check Wakelock Detector, click on this:
Awake.............................Statistics since..............................Deep sleep
bar after night of rest and post statistics that you find there, The most interesting is a difference between Screen-on and awake times. If your phone is awake much longer than it has it's screen on then there are some processes that keep it awake and drain battery.
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Do you have any Battery manager apps installed? I had one that constantly pulled WiFi status and since I have WiFi disabled when outside of home or work it kept on turning it on/off and drained my battery. It was my error for configuring it wrongly, I admit but still, that may happen without control.
Check Wakelock Detector, click on this:
Awake.............................Statistics since..............................Deep sleep
bar after night of rest and post statistics that you find there, The most interesting is a difference between Screen-on and awake times. If your phone is awake much longer than it has it's screen on then there are some processes that keep it awake and drain battery.
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Last night I disable wifi and battery takes 3% whole night I think wifi eat battery
relisys667 said:
Last night I disable wifi and battery takes 3% whole night I think wifi eat battery
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WiFi by itself will not eat battery, something has to use it to create this drain. How do you have your wifi configured?
Check in Settings>WiFi>Advanced>Keep WiFi on during sleep>???
I have that set to Never
mat9v said:
WiFi by itself will not eat battery, something has to use it to create this drain. How do you have your wifi configured?
Check in Settings>WiFi>Advanced>Keep WiFi on during sleep>???
I have that set to Never
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Wifi does seem to be messed up on this phone. I find, on standby, it causes more drain than 3G does. Usually something like 10% - 15% overnight.
This is not right and something is seriously a miss with Samsung. My HTC running the exact same apps does not have this problem. You shouldn't have to turn wifi off as opposed to 3G to get better battery life.
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fade2black101 said:
Wifi does seem to be messed up on this phone. I find, on standby, it causes more drain than 3G does. Usually something like 10% - 15% overnight.
This is not right and something is seriously a miss with Samsung. My HTC running the exact same apps does not have this problem. You shouldn't have to turn wifi off as opposed to 3G to get better battery life.
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Are you thinking about some hardware problem that causes wifi to use more memory than usual? Like higher voltage or something? Because that is not very probable. I think there is some app there that is using wifi, high power usage happens when wifi is performing scans is being turned on or actively transmiting data. Please use wakelog detector to find what app is causing kernel wakelocks and from there we can find a real culprit.
I does not have to be malicious but may be an incompatibility between hardware and some software, one that works well on HTC and not on this Samsung model.
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Are you thinking about some hardware problem that causes wifi to use more memory than usual? Like higher voltage or something? Because that is not very probable. I think there is some app there that is using wifi, high power usage happens when wifi is performing scans is being turned on or actively transmiting data. Please use wakelog detector to find what app is causing kernel wakelocks and from there we can find a real culprit.
I does not have to be malicious but may be an incompatibility between hardware and some software, one that works well on HTC and not on this Samsung model.
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No I don't think it's hardware.
I also don't think it is an app given what I have observed with wakelocks and deep sleep. I have made many adjustments to the phone and I'm clued up with wakelocks and the like and this doesn't seem to be a wakelock issue.
I have even assigned a static ip and made tweaks within my router but it hasn't helped. There seems to be a strange way this phone handles wifi and it is causing unnecessary drain.
In regards to Kernel wakelocks, it would appear something called mdm_hsic is causing lots of wakeups and more standby drain than it should be and this does not feature at all on my HTC. This is not related to wifi, but I'm pinning the general crappy standy drain im getting on this but there doesn't seem to be a way to get rid of it.
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Id download ds battery saver from the playstore and set it to agressive itll turn off wifi and data whenever screen is locked and turn it back on upon unlock. Its awesome on my sgs4
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fade2black101 said:
No I don't think it's hardware.
I also don't think it is an app given what I have observed with wakelocks and deep sleep. I have made many adjustments to the phone and I'm clued up with wakelocks and the like and this doesn't seem to be a wakelock issue.
I have even assigned a static ip and made tweaks within my router but it hasn't helped. There seems to be a strange way this phone handles wifi and it is causing unnecessary drain.
In regards to Kernel wakelocks, it would appear something called mdm_hsic is causing lots of wakeups and more standby drain than it should be and this does not feature at all on my HTC. This is not related to wifi, but I'm pinning the general crappy standy drain im getting on this but there doesn't seem to be a way to get rid of it.
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mdm_hsic is related to Modem part, you may try different modems (be mindfull of efs problem in newer firmwares), also try to enable/disable "fast dormancy". I think you could test that by selecting "GSM only" and observing.
mat9v said:
mdm_hsic is related to Modem part, you may try different modems (be mindfull of efs problem in newer firmwares), also try to enable/disable "fast dormancy". I think you could test that by selecting "GSM only" and observing.
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Thanks for the reply
I have tried different radios in the past. If that's what you mean?
I've also tested around with fast dormancy (it is currently disabled)
My network only works on 3G and has no 2G coverage. It is purely a 3G network and therefore GSM only will not work. This problem still persisted when I was on a different network though and selected gsm only fornthe majority of the time.
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Thanks for the reply
I have tried different radios in the past. If that's what you mean?
I've also tested around with fast dormancy (it is currently disabled)
My network only works on 3G and has no 2G coverage. It is purely a 3G network and therefore GSM only will not work. This problem still persisted when I was on a different network though and selected gsm only fornthe majority of the time.
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Yes, I was talking about radios.
Have you ever tried changing CSC file? Full, four part flash in Odin, not only PDA?
What method did you use for modifying fast dormancy setting? Because the correct one includes full factory reset when changing CSC. Anyway fast dormancy would be a problem only if you used 3G network for data.
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Yes, I was talking about radios.
Have you ever tried changing CSC file? Full, four part flash in Odin, not only PDA?
What method did you use for modifying fast dormancy setting? Because the correct one includes full factory reset when changing CSC. Anyway fast dormancy would be a problem only if you used 3G network for data.
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Nope have not tried changing the CSC.
The method I used for fastdormancy was with that app in the marketplace than allows you to toggle it on and off. I'm not sure if fastdormancy is linked the mdm_hsic though, to be honest.
Hi guys
I have a LTE Note II and have had this battery drain on standby where wifi will absolutely destroy my battery. This has been going on for months and months and I'm just not sure if Samsung are ever going to resolve this and it is quite the pain in the arse.
I've done many tweaks to my phone, and all location services are off. Also, I've set it as a static IP, but nothing seems to help. I think this is related to the wlan_rx_wake wakelock? I get the impression my phone is responding to the wifi and getting woken up constantly.
Does anyone else experience this and do you have any suggestions?
P.S. please don't mention my apps causing it. It definitely is not. I know my way around Android and also, my Nexus 4 with the same setup (but location + google now turned ON) absolutely annihilates my Note II battery life on standby. This is clearly a Samsung problem that they have ignored for the best part of a whole year, and it seems to be related to wifi.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Do u have some figures about this battery drain to be able to compare with my phone?
It could be a bad modem/connection. What is your configuration?
Primokorn said:
Do u have some figures about this battery drain to be able to compare with my phone?
It could be a bad modem/connection. What is your configuration?
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No exact figures but I have been observing it for months now and it hasn't been the case with any other phone I use. With wifi on, it'll drain around 20% overnight. With Wifi off, it'll drain 5 or so %. With Wifi on on every other phone I own/owned, it will barely drain at all overnight.
Type *#0011#
Check wifi setting
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This is what I got when I entered that it
After *#0011# go to menu and select wifi in order to see if power safe mode is on.
Yeah it is on
Is that bad?
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That's not bad, it improves battery usage. I don't recognize your problem. Does the phone go into deep sleep with wifi on? Which rom do you use?
Hielko said:
That's not bad, it improves battery usage. I don't recognize your problem. Does the phone go into deep sleep with wifi on? Which rom do you use?
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Stock ROM. And yeah, but it is constantly being woken up.
Sorry for the bump, but this hasn't changed.
I'm not sure if this is to do with just the N7105, but it is something that just won't go away. I'm now finding I lose between 20 and 30% overnight (around 7 hours) with wifi on, or about 10% with data on. With these both turned off but the phone radio still being on, it only drops about 2% in the same time. This was tested with bluetooth/gps and sync turned off.
I don't really have the time to write up everything that I have tried, but suffice to say I have tweaked the phone a lot over the past few months trying to sort this out, but nothing works.
Here is a quick summary of the stuff I have done.
Firstly, I have to run a stock rom and kernel because there is an app I need that will not work on custom roms/kernels. It also doesn't work on root but I have found a procedure to toggle unroot/root when need be and it works fine. Therefore I'm stuck on 4.1.2 as I want to be rooted but I cannot use any custom rom or kernels.
I have tried factory wiping the phone/installing later versions of 4.1.2, etc etc and the same problems still exists with a freshly wiped phone and no apps installed. This problem also doesn't happen with my Nexus 4 or any other phone I have owned with the same setup, so I am very certain it is not due to a misbehaving app.
I have frozen a lot of bloat with titanium backup, I have hibernated a hell of a lot of stuff with greenify (including system app where there are no perceivable negative consequences)
I have added a few tweaks to the build.prop such as to disable fast dormancy and a few other supposed power saving ones which are meant to help with the msm_hsic wakelock.
There are many other things such as setting a static IP, and also tweaking with my router based on some advise I found on these forums. Nothing much has helped.
Location services and google now are off, and I'm not using the Samsung bloatware apps.
I use betterbatterystats and the partial wakelocks are fine. Very low infact.
However, IMO it is two "kernal wakelocks" which are causing me the problem.
wlan_rx_wake - in regards to the wifi
mdm_hsic_pm0 - in regards to the data
These are by no means outrageously high. My estimation is perhaps 10 mins wake up time and around 2000 "expire time" (whatever that means) every 3 hours or so. However, these two are always the highest kernel wakelock depending on if i'm using wifi (wlan_rx_wake) or data (mdm_hsic_pm0). My phone is also not being kept awake too long too in general.. at a guess around 3 hours awake time for every 2 hours screen on time for every 15-20 hours.
I can't remember if these kernel wakelocks were super duper high in the past, and the fixes I tried actually lowered them, but I still notice this massive Idle drain when on data or wifi (just over 1% per hour - or 2-3% per hour respectively).
In regards to the Wifi.. I suspect that packets are being sent from my router which are constantly waking up my phone. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to solve this problem with any of the router-side fixes I've tried.
This leads me to suspect that the wifi and data radio of the N7105 is power hungry, or I've had a faulty unit since day one. I keep hearing about this stellar battery life for this phone but, for me, the best I've ever got is around 20 hours. This may sound good but the problem is it is 20 hours with 6 hours screen on time, or 20 hours with 2 hours screen on time. This doesn't seem to make a difference where I should be getting two days when I only have 2 hours screen on time.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, and any experiances of others with the N7105 may help find out if it indeed is more power hungry. I'd also like to add that my network does not support 4G yet so this is all on 3G and NOT LTE.
Thank you, and sorry for such a long post.
fade2black101 said:
Hi guys
I have a LTE Note II and have had this battery drain on standby where wifi will absolutely destroy my battery. This has been going on for months and months and I'm just not sure if Samsung are ever going to resolve this and it is quite the pain in the arse.
I've done many tweaks to my phone, and all location services are off. Also, I've set it as a static IP, but nothing seems to help. I think this is related to the wlan_rx_wake wakelock? I get the impression my phone is responding to the wifi and getting woken up constantly.
Does anyone else experience this and do you have any suggestions?
P.S. please don't mention my apps causing it. It definitely is not. I know my way around Android and also, my Nexus 4 with the same setup (but location + google now turned ON) absolutely annihilates my Note II battery life on standby. This is clearly a Samsung problem that they have ignored for the best part of a whole year, and it seems to be related to wifi.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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I ain't expert...
but, I would suggest like this :
Go to wifi, press menu and then Advanced (advanced setting of the wifi).
uncheck/untick "Scanning always available"
"Keep wifi on during sleep" = set to Never.
uncheck / untick "auto network switch btwen wifi network and mobile networks"
all these helps me to minimize the usage of wifi during night times (when I sleep). Anyway, device also need to have a deepsleep
Hope can help you as well.
Sent from the corner of this rounded earth.