Hi,
I have two children & I tend to use my phone as a camera often. I guess I am not picky & it takes really good shots for what it is. There is very little blurring & the photos look nice for email pics.
So I want to try CM9 or AOKP & I believe that currently there is no camcorder/video which I am OK with. How is the quality of the photos? I seem to remember reading that the camera images for some reason arent as nice as with a stock based TW rom.
Is that true? Is the camera a piece of hardware & there is no software to enhance it? Ultimately are images without any editing nicer on a TW rom vs AOSP?
Thanks,
Rich
Hi everyone,
I am considering 'upgrading' my HOV to CM10.1 or AOKP, but I am wondering if the new mods really effect the quality of the onboard camera? I know that the One series all has the HTC imagesense processor, and I was wondering if the newer kernels affected the quality of the camera at all? I enjoy the quality of the camera on stock greatly, so I was wondering if there was a big difference or if anyone did any comparisons?
Thanks!
ps - sorry if this has been asked before, I've searched and come up with nothing...
Stock camera is the best.It's the only reason why some people revert back to stock after trying out JB
stock camera > cm9 > cm10 > cm10.1 even tho cm10.1 camera doesn't work yet... lmao
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mihirengg19 said:
Stock camera is the best.It's the only reason why some people revert back to stock after trying out JB
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I didn't quite get it.
I am wondering, does JB roms use HTC's ImageSense? If not, does those Sense based ROMs use ImageSense, as they use the stock camera, right?
putkimonitori said:
I didn't quite get it.
I am wondering, does JB roms use HTC's ImageSense? If not, does those Sense based ROMs use ImageSense, as they use the stock camera, right?
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The non-Sense based ROM's don't use the ImageSense chip ( or use it in the same way as stock ). I've Tried SupremU and mySenseV both seem to use the stock camera app and abilities. The CM10/etc use the cyanogen(?) camera, it cannot do the burst or capture during video, I had very little luck getting it going smoothly in CM10, video modes autofocus is wonky too
I did some searching to see if the Stock camera app could somehow be brought into CM10, but from what I could find it appears that the answer it no.. my guess is it's a kernel module needed + a bunch of Sense bits and pieces.
to me the quality seems about the same, but I have noticed that non-stock cameras on our HOV are slower at actually taking the picture, but that could be the settings? idk but I like stock camera, but not enough to switch back to sense... mostly because it makes me use a pin or passcode or pattern to unlock because of the wifi type at my school... it gets annoying
digitalat0m said:
The non-Sense based ROM's don't use the ImageSense chip ( or use it in the same way as stock ). I've Tried SupremU and mySenseV both seem to use the stock camera app and abilities. The CM10/etc use the cyanogen(?) camera, it cannot do the burst or capture during video, I had very little luck getting it going smoothly in CM10, video modes autofocus is wonky too
I did some searching to see if the Stock camera app could somehow be brought into CM10, but from what I could find it appears that the answer it no.. my guess is it's a kernel module needed + a bunch of Sense bits and pieces.
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So, when i use this ROM?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974415
I have ImageSense in use, as it has the stock camera app, right? (which is the best for me) I really like ImageSense, autofocus in video is great with it and pictures too.
putkimonitori said:
So, when i use this ROM?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974415
I have ImageSense in use, as it has the stock camera app, right? (which is the best for me) I really like ImageSense, autofocus in video is great with it and pictures too.
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Yup that you do It's the one I've been running this week and it appears to be going quite smoothly.
Hi All,
Running 4.2.2 AOSP buttery smooth with excellent battery life. Using SOA with SOAP and 240 density I'm getting as good of battery life as Touchwiz based Roms and Kernels.
I love me some AOSP any day over Touchwiz on my Note II EXCEPT:
I really miss the Touchwiz Camera app. I hate the 4.2 Camera App, even hated it on my Nexus 4 before I sold it for my Note II. I even feel like the image quality isn't quite as good.
I don't really want to flash back to a TW to test the camera, and have been searching for an answer. Does TW take better pics than AOSP as far as quality for the Note II? (I know HTC Sense cam app does vs AOSP on the One S/One X for example, so wondering if TW is similar)
For the AOSP users out there, how are you finding the camera app? Have you tried any 3rd party app's like Line Camera? What's the best solution for 3rd party apps?
I'm of the same opinion. I don't necessarily feel the quality of pics is any better, I just prefer the UI and bells and whistles.
This is an about-face for me, as far as the Sammy camera is concerned; on my previous Note and GS2, I didn't like it and always went with a different app (most recently the Camera 4.2). But now, with slo-mo, screenshots, pause, etc etc, I really like it.
My problem is (as noted in another thread on this Q&A board), that all of my video recordings have a "popping" sound on them, and I've done EVERYTHING to try and solve it to no avail.
I've moved on to CM10.1 nightlies and have no prob with the 4.2 camera.
I use alt s-pen apps, so I'm not really beholden to TW, but if my camera worked, I would have stayed.
One more note: I've just started using Snap Camera, which improves upon Camera 4.2, and so far so good.
I have seen several of these threads, never posted on any of them but have seen several. The AOSP camera in my opinion does not take as good of pictures as the stock Samsung camera. The first thing I have noticed is that the pictures taken with the AOSP camera are not as clear or crisp as the TW camera. More noticeable when zoomed in. Secondly the file size of AOSP pictures is often times smaller than the TW file size. This could be just different information stored within the picture but I lean more to picture quality making up the size difference. I could be wrong. Lastly I know it is just my preference but I prefer the TW file naming format versus the AOSP file naming format.
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I have seen several of these threads, never posted on any of them but have seen several. The AOSP camera in my opinion does not take as good of pictures as the stock Samsung camera. The first thing I have noticed is that the pictures taken with the AOSP camera are not as clear or crisp as the TW camera. More noticeable when zoomed in. Secondly the file size of AOSP pictures is often times smaller than the TW file size. This could be just different information stored within the picture but I lean more to picture quality making up the size difference. I could be wrong. Lastly I know it is just my preference but I prefer the TW file naming format versus the AOSP file naming format.
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I am using the Camera and Video a lot right now as I'm a new father, so I'm going to switch back to a TW rom for first time in a while mostly for the Camera for testing and comparing.
I just flashed Jedi XP 12 and Saber Kernel
the touchwiz camera app was fast with picture taking. was very quick when moments were there. does the aosp camera snap pics with the same speed?
i know when i was using my nexus 4, it was a slug compared to the note 2. probably wasn't any faster than taking pics with my galaxy s2.
Try Camera FV-5
Fantastic SLR style app.
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Has anyone done or tried to do some actual comparisons between AOSP and TW cameras?
I'm basing this simply off my experience with the phone - I used CleanRom for quite a while, then went 4.2.2 (Rootbox then SOA), and now back to JediXP
Honestly- I miss Sons of Android - I love AOSP - but I still feel like the TW Cam takes better pics.
Am I making this up?
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Has anyone done or tried to do some actual comparisons between AOSP and TW cameras?
I'm basing this simply off my experience with the phone - I used CleanRom for quite a while, then went 4.2.2 (Rootbox then SOA), and now back to JediXP
Honestly- I miss Sons of Android - I love AOSP - but I still feel like the TW Cam takes better pics.
Am I making this up?
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Snap Camera is awesome FTW
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Snap Camera is awesome FTW
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I agree that Snap Camera is great. Only one thing I noticed (And this may not be exclusive to Snap Camera, but maybe other AOSP apps):
I did a test to compare the quality of stock vs. Snap Camera. I couldn't discern any difference in quality, but I did notice that the stock app captures "more". What I mean is, I set the camera in the same position, taking identical pics of a box with both apps. The Snap Camera pic cut off the top of the box, but the stock app got the whole box in the picture. It's as though Snap C is slightly zoomed in, compared to stock. No, it wasn't zoomed in. Both were set at same settings, same focus, etc.
Anyway, aside from that, I think it's a great app too.
I was actually wondering if there would be any way to install the samsung camera into an aosp ?
Probably not possible. Just thought about it today. Because I like Liquid Smooth. But some things are not as functional as a tw rom. Like the camera.
I dont like the aosp stock camera it always locks up on me, so I will have to give these other cam apps mentioned above a try.
Good post and replys guys, thanks.
The AOSP camera app, probably isn't able to use all the advanced features of the camera hardware, because the driver is not open source and likely requires the Samsung framework. AOSP is using a basic driver that simply allows it to take picture, but it's not particularly good or useful.
IMO, AOSP is inferior to a TW/Nature UX rom. I would never use an AOSP rom on a Samsung phone. Just too many features I use would be missing, and I don't like the way AOSP looks.
I definitly prefer everything AOSP over TW except the Camera
I am using a TW app though and the camera quality is better - to the point I will get used to TW.
TW vs AOSP Camera tests
QUOTE=bigystyle84;39957450]Has anyone done or tried to do some actual comparisons between AOSP and TW cameras?
I'm basing this simply off my experience with the phone - I used CleanRom for quite a while, then went 4.2.2 (Rootbox then SOA), and now back to JediXP
Honestly- I miss Sons of Android - I love AOSP - but I still feel like the TW Cam takes better pics.
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My wife has a stock S3 and I am running Carbon ROM 1.7. I did some rudimentary testing and was suprised to find that the AOSP camera took slightly better shots. Close ups in good light had better contrast and colour realism than TW.
However I cannot get over the fact that AOSP clips the viewfinder to a widescreen format - it is impossible to frame a photo well because of this. In addition the camera crashes quite regularly and requires a reboot.
hardly anyone mentions video - I currently have CM 10.1 and really like it but the camera/video is a deal breaker for me. Trying to take video renders them unusable because not only about the quality but the sound - horribly distorted, far cry from TW based ROMs can achieve. I find the pix on TW are a bit too bright (taking indoor shots with a lot of light tends to 'blind' the camera too much - easy fix is to bring exposure 2 notches down, and I have a mod that does it automatically). So, sadly, no more AOSP roms for me strictly because of the camera. Return of the Jedi for me
Touchwiz camera is much better..
Tried both on my s3 that I had before this phone and tw roms took much better pics
I hate AOSP camera too and for the same reasons I stick with TW ROMs. However, I really like carbon ROM 1.7 so I found this link to help in the camera area. It's not better than TW but it is a huge improvement over stock camera features. Let me know what you think...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746611
Tried the mod from the above post and ultra pixel doesn't seem to do much of anything. Just can't zoom as much.
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I find the CM 4.2.2 Camera to be a little quicker with taking pics. I also find it produces more crisp pictures. Could just be me, or the ROM I'm on.
Never really cared for the TW camera gimmicky options; Best Face, Best Picture, Etc.
Has anyone here used Zoom FX as a replacement for the awesome stock Sense camera? I really want to install PAC-Man Rom because of all the cool features but I LOVE the stock HTC camera app. I take a lot of pictures and one of the features I love about the stock camera is that you can extract still images from video. Plus it seems like the stock app would be best able to take advantage of the One's ultrapixel camera. I'm really torn between staying stock and keeping the camera and installing a custom rom and having the advantages that come with that.
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Has anyone here used Zoom FX as a replacement for the awesome stock Sense camera? I really want to install PAC-Man Rom because of all the cool features but I LOVE the stock HTC camera app. I take a lot of pictures and one of the features I love about the stock camera is that you can extract still images from video. Plus it seems like the stock app would be best able to take advantage of the One's ultrapixel camera. I'm really torn between staying stock and keeping the camera and installing a custom rom and having the advantages that come with that.
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I have this app. It is feature rich. I don't know if you can extract a still with it, I looked within the app and googled it, can't find anything.
JGress said:
Has anyone here used Zoom FX as a replacement for the awesome stock Sense camera? I really want to install PAC-Man Rom because of all the cool features but I LOVE the stock HTC camera app. I take a lot of pictures and one of the features I love about the stock camera is that you can extract still images from video. Plus it seems like the stock app would be best able to take advantage of the One's ultrapixel camera. I'm really torn between staying stock and keeping the camera and installing a custom rom and having the advantages that come with that.
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I've been using CameraZoomFX since day 1 and it's a perfect fit for the One's camera. I set volume up as the shutter, made sure it's taking pictures as Wide 4.1MP (native), and use Stable Shot. Sometimes the "auto" white-balance isn't the best, but that (and tons of other options) are easily adjustable
Ok... Thanks guys! I think I'm going to go for it and install PAC & buy ZoomFX. I guess I can always restore to my current configuration if I hate it and waste $3 at the very worst.
Has anyone noticed if the stock google camera performs better with a possible new api for the m8? I'm wondering if there's to be specific api updates for htc's sense camera, or if the google camera is much better?
My gut feeling is that the lower megapixels with larger sensitivity when shooting raw, may either be good or bad depending on how much data is collected with a faster shutter speed in marginal low light conditions. The improvements with ois camera (nexus5) with video is quite impressive, as are the still shots.
Can anyone share their thoughts on experiences with gpe roms (skydragon 5.0 or 4.4.4) with either htc's or aosp camera on lollipop? Thanks.
We can't really make any conclusions until the official gpe ota is pushed out, i really hope htc figures out a way to improve the crappy post processing on the gpe m8.
Here's the thing, Sense Camera will always be better than GPE or AOSP camera simply because the photos that you're taking on GPE (or AOSP) is only 4 megapixel unlike on Sense, you're using ultrapixel for shots. For ultrapixel to work, you'll need sense framework which isn't located in GPE or AOSP. Thus, even if google does update the camera API and their camera app, it'll never be able to take on Sense camera as it utilizes hardware and software to allow ultrapixel to work
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Here's the thing, Sense Camera will always be better than GPE or AOSP camera simply because the photos that you're taking on GPE (or AOSP) is only 4 megapixel unlike on Sense, you're using ultrapixel for shots. For ultrapixel to work, you'll need sense framework which isn't located in GPE or AOSP. Thus, even if google does update the camera API and their camera app, it'll never be able to take on Sense camera as it utilizes hardware and software to allow ultrapixel to work
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Um, no. Ultrapixels is simply what HTC calls the (comparatively) huge pixel size of the sensor. It's just part of the hardware. You are going to get a 4Mpixel image no matter which camera app you use, because that's what the sensor is. That isn't to say one camera app isn't better than another, but the differences are largely in the control and post-processing. (I'm not sure if the GPE camera uses the depth sensor?)