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AOSP camera very grainy for Inc2

I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.

armchairbear said:
I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.
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Did you try messing with the settings of the miui cam
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armchairbear said:
I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.
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The camera on my miui takes amazing pictures I know this because my fiance is a graphic designer for ups and we have printed lots of pics from my miui phone and she always tells me you can have the best camera on the world but if you don't have a good printer you wont get the best quality pictures. It all depends on the output of the printer I'm not saying that you don't have a good printer I'm just saying I have seen the quality of the pics taking by my phone printed at her job and I most said they are amazing and they are huge I'm talking portrait size
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My understanding is the MIUI camera can be installed on AOSP roms, though I have never been able myself. But this would be the best "fix" for the cruddy AOSP cams out there.

Just saying, ROMs like Zeus and GingerBang Sense are just as fast as AOSP in my opinion.

armchairbear said:
I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.
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I agree. For the most part during good light situations, I can get a decent picture using AOSP or MIUI, but if the lighting isn't 100% optimal the pictures don't really turn out that well. Over all the sense software/driver integration does give me better pictures as well. Especially when I view them in full screen on my computer. I've messed around with the settings too, but I just believe that there is optimization in sense because of HTC owning both the software & the drivers for the phone. As funny as it sounds, the better camera quality is the one thing that really keeps me coming back to Sense. I love the camera interface in MIUI, but after a bit, i always come back.

AgalychnisCallidryas said:
Just saying, ROMs like Zeus and GingerBang Sense are just as fast as AOSP in my opinion.
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I still feel aosp is faster than those, but i do agree the difference is not enough leave sense if you need the best camera performance or love the launcher and widgets combination which are awesome. I think many run aosp though because of the combination of mods/themes available and we feel special when we explain to others that we are running "pure" android.
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AgalychnisCallidryas said:
Just saying, ROMs like Zeus and GingerBang Sense are just as fast as AOSP in my opinion.
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I heard the same from others but I think I'm gonna try this theory for myself
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Bringing up this old thread.
I just did some quick testing with the AOSP camera (Aeroevan's CM7.2 kang). I'm using the MIUI camera, but have noticed the same effect no matter what camera app I use (default, CameraZOOM).
It appears that the grainy effect on the pictures is due to the ISO setting failing to adjust with changes in settings. I took a few pics with ISO set to Auto, 100, and 1250, and they all came out identical (same amount of grain, etc).
If the ISO was being adjusted correctly, the ISO 100 pic should have had significantly less noise (grain) than the ISO 1250 one.
As my best guess, it would appear that the AOSP rom's camera driver is incomplete / buggy, as changing the ISO in settings does not change the actual ISO of the camera/picture.
I also noticed that the ISO data is being reported incorrectly in the picture file details. The pic I took @ "ISO 1250" (according to camera settings) is reported as being "ISO-129" in the EXIF data.
I've uploaded a full size pic just for example:
Pic of Chicago
I would think that this picture, taken in broad daylight, should have nearly no noise whatsoever, yet it has quite a bit.
Any feedback on this? Or is this as good as it gets for this camera?
EDIT: Upon further investigation (viewing original resolution pics taken by the ADR6350 on Flickr), it seems that nearly everyone's pics, when viewed at full size, are rather grainy, no matter the light level. Perhaps this camera just isn't very good.
EDIT #2: Here's a pic of a similar scene from an iPhone 4 - there's just no comparison in terms of overall quality (not trying to bash the DINC2, I'm just a bit disappointed with what I'm seeing).
EDIT #3: A pic from an Incredible S. Little noise, even in low light. WTF

dirkdigles said:
Bringing up this old thread.
I just did some quick testing with the AOSP camera (Aeroevan's CM7.2 kang). I'm using the MIUI camera, but have noticed the same effect no matter what camera app I use (default, CameraZOOM).
It appears that the grainy effect on the pictures is due to the ISO setting failing to adjust with changes in settings. I took a few pics with ISO set to Auto, 100, and 1250, and they all came out identical (same amount of grain, etc).
If the ISO was being adjusted correctly, the ISO 100 pic should have had significantly less noise (grain) than the ISO 1250 one.
As my best guess, it would appear that the AOSP rom's camera driver is incomplete / buggy, as changing the ISO in settings does not change the actual ISO of the camera/picture.
I also noticed that the ISO data is being reported incorrectly in the picture file details. The pic I took @ "ISO 1250" (according to camera settings) is reported as being "ISO-129" in the EXIF data.
I've uploaded a full size pic just for example:
Pic of Chicago
I would think that this picture, taken in broad daylight, should have nearly no noise whatsoever, yet it has quite a bit.
Any feedback on this? Or is this as good as it gets for this camera?
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I feel this is true for all AOSP .. the camera feels incomplete at best... It doesn't even focus properly when recording video.. if you start recording, don't get any closer or farther away!!! It won't focus.. Our phone has the capability to take wonderful pictures as long as you stick with Sense.. AOSP will ruin any chance of taking a decent picture with our hardware.. I've tested roms side-by-side and AOSP is at the bottom of the barrel in this category for me..

The Sense camera is significantly better that any AOSP camera in my opinion. I would love to have the time to shoot a photo with AOSP then NAND back to Sense and shoot the same photo to compare.
If no one else does this, I will as soon as I have a good opportunity. Pictures should be posted for comparinson.

TheAtheistReverend said:
The Sense camera is significantly better that any AOSP camera in my opinion. I would love to have the time to shoot a photo with AOSP then NAND back to Sense and shoot the same photo to compare.
If no one else does this, I will as soon as I have a good opportunity. Pictures should be posted for comparinson.
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Please do! I'll try the same; I currently have TSM's vanilla installed in a bootmanager slot.
Update: I just booted into TSM Vanilla to give the camera a quick look. I took a few pics indoors, and changed the ISO for each one. It looks like it's having the same issue! Both pics I took (one @ ISO 100 and the other @ ISO 1250 per the camera settings) came out looking the same, and the EXIF info said they had the exact same ISO.
PS - I linked a couple other pics for comparison in my reply a few posts up. One from an IncS and the other from an ip4
Example 1, Phone = Incredible 2, Fully Enlarged
Example 2, Phone = Incredible 2, Fully Enlarged
These examples seem a bit less noisy ... it's obviously not as good as a dedicated digital camera, but a crapload better than what I'm getting now !!

I love the vintage effects on sense 3.5 roms. I would have to spend 20 minutes in Photoshop to reproduce that.

http://db.tt/ZxhpK8C2
Here's one I just took outside with camera 360 at 8mp on miui
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ericsdeadinside said:
http://db.tt/ZxhpK8C2
Here's one I just took outside with camera 360 at 8mp on miui
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Not bad - do you have some sort of post-processing or color effects enabled? The colors in that pic are bizarre.

Yeah that is on the Vintage setting.

Here's one with no effects
http://db.tt/x5DUhdT4
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ericsdeadinside said:
Here's one with no effects
http://db.tt/x5DUhdT4
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Looks pretty good. Definitely better than what I'm getting.
I just saved your pic file and looked at the properties - for some reason, your file reads as having horizontal & vertical resolution of 96dpi, whereas mine says 72dpi. I wonder if this has to do with the issue ??

Are you using camera 360?
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For my pic I was using the MIUI cam (but I'm running CM7.2). Seems that CameraZOOMfx and the default android camera have the same result for me.
It's almost as if the camera is taking a picture at a lower resolution (like 4MP) and extrapolating (interpolating?) it out to the 8MP picture size (a possible explanation for the the 8MP pictures seeming a lot less sharp than they should be).

Camera Quality on CM9/AOKP?

Hi,
I have two children & I tend to use my phone as a camera often. I guess I am not picky & it takes really good shots for what it is. There is very little blurring & the photos look nice for email pics.
So I want to try CM9 or AOKP & I believe that currently there is no camcorder/video which I am OK with. How is the quality of the photos? I seem to remember reading that the camera images for some reason arent as nice as with a stock based TW rom.
Is that true? Is the camera a piece of hardware & there is no software to enhance it? Ultimately are images without any editing nicer on a TW rom vs AOSP?
Thanks,
Rich

AOSP vs Sense Camera

Does AOSP Camera kill quality? I like CM but I like also good pictures quality...
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I've never found AOSP to kill quality, the only difference if the ratio of the image compared with Sense.

It's not as good as the Sense camera as it doesn't make use of the image sense chip. Sense version is optimised.
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I think the panorama function is better in the aosp camera

Colours and details are often much less prominent in the AOSP camera. I've done my own comparisons and the Sense camera has better white balance in photos, though details remain mostly the same. Some AOSP ROMs have very grainy camera quality though. When it comes to video, Sense ROMs record MUCH better footage with more accurate colours and much more detail, frame rates remain similar though. To capture photos with better colours when using the AOSP camera, you often need to manually change the white balance as the "auto" setting isn't very effective for getting realistic looking shots.
The Sense camera is also faster at opening up and at shooting and processing panorama photos. The Sense camera also has far better touch (and auto) focus, the AOSP camera is often difficult to focus for close ups but the Sense camera almost always focuses correctly. Additionally, the AOSP camera has somewhat fixed focus for video recording, where auto focus still sort of works but you can't touch the screen to focus because this takes photos during recording (this is how this feature was implemented on the AOSP camera). So basically, while recording video, you have to hope the phone knows what you're trying to focus on, especially if you want to take photos while recording. On the AOSP camera, taking photos while recording also has impacts on the frame rate at times.
The AOSP camera also can take a long time to switch between photo, video or panorama (depending on the ROM you're using). Burst fire is also a joke on AOSP ROMs, put simply, it doesn't work. You can take photos faster by tapping on the shoot button really quickly.
The most critical thing for me is the start up and focus time of the AOSP camera that makes you lose the moment where you needed to take that photo while something awesome was happening. I have some fairly stupid friends, who do very funny things, which i will often record hahaha, so it's quite disappointing when i miss that moment with AOSP ROMs. I've never really missed "that moment" on a Sense ROM though.
These are just my opinions though, i hope someone can find this post useful!

zoom FX camera app?

Has anyone here used Zoom FX as a replacement for the awesome stock Sense camera? I really want to install PAC-Man Rom because of all the cool features but I LOVE the stock HTC camera app. I take a lot of pictures and one of the features I love about the stock camera is that you can extract still images from video. Plus it seems like the stock app would be best able to take advantage of the One's ultrapixel camera. I'm really torn between staying stock and keeping the camera and installing a custom rom and having the advantages that come with that.

JGress said:
Has anyone here used Zoom FX as a replacement for the awesome stock Sense camera? I really want to install PAC-Man Rom because of all the cool features but I LOVE the stock HTC camera app. I take a lot of pictures and one of the features I love about the stock camera is that you can extract still images from video. Plus it seems like the stock app would be best able to take advantage of the One's ultrapixel camera. I'm really torn between staying stock and keeping the camera and installing a custom rom and having the advantages that come with that.
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I have this app. It is feature rich. I don't know if you can extract a still with it, I looked within the app and googled it, can't find anything.

JGress said:
Has anyone here used Zoom FX as a replacement for the awesome stock Sense camera? I really want to install PAC-Man Rom because of all the cool features but I LOVE the stock HTC camera app. I take a lot of pictures and one of the features I love about the stock camera is that you can extract still images from video. Plus it seems like the stock app would be best able to take advantage of the One's ultrapixel camera. I'm really torn between staying stock and keeping the camera and installing a custom rom and having the advantages that come with that.
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I've been using CameraZoomFX since day 1 and it's a perfect fit for the One's camera. I set volume up as the shutter, made sure it's taking pictures as Wide 4.1MP (native), and use Stable Shot. Sometimes the "auto" white-balance isn't the best, but that (and tons of other options) are easily adjustable

Ok... Thanks guys! I think I'm going to go for it and install PAC & buy ZoomFX. I guess I can always restore to my current configuration if I hate it and waste $3 at the very worst.

Best replacement camera app (I know, it's like beating a dead horse but seriously)

I've reverted back to Touchwiz (KK) because I feel like I can really see the difference between photo's, be it the 16x9 ratio or clearness when you zoom in but once again, I flashed a different rom, this time it's the GPE 5.01.
I'm just tired of the laggy ness of TW even though I was running the google launcher with google now, it just lags, so far with GPE I've had none of those issue's but I like to capture my memories and I don't want to regret this later on.
Currently I'm using the stock google camera, a better camera and I've used Camera FV-5 in the past which was great with all the options but would obviously take time to learn, basically, I'm looking for an app that takes 16x9 pictures (I use a flat screen to view & share my photo's and 4x3 just looks generic I feel).
Are there ANY app's out there, paid or free that will give me the quality of the stock Samsung camera app?
Like I stated in the title, I know this has been gone over many times and everyone has an opinion but I thought I'd check once more before I flash back to TW and deal with the lag just so I can use the stock camera.
Thanks!