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major update here, the dualizer has become a feature rich toolkit for dualbooting. this includes a modified version of amon ra's recovery image. you need it to use the dualizer toolkit, it is included and can be flashed with one command.
it is a beta version for now. i have tested each option, but i cannot foresee all conditions you might have on your phone... have a backup at all time! and don't forget to backup the stuff from your sdcard before installing dualboot, during the creation of this toolkit i accidently deleted everything on mine...
there is no logging at the moment, if you get any error messages please paste them here in full.
i haven't tried a nandroid backup at all yet, and wouldn't advice you to do it either. please use apps like titanium backup to backup your stuff. i will be looking into getting some kind of nandroid capability, but that is not a trivial topic. i can however imagine to have full pc-based backup capabilites, sometime in the future...
before you use any of the romX options make sure you have installed the dualboot environment, i have no idea what happens otherwise...
i have tried to include a full description, please let me know if something is unclear (i hope it is obvious that romX needs to be replaced with either rom1 or rom2):
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kendon's dualboot toolkit for the HTC Hero
usage: ./dualizer <option>
place the two roms you want to use for dualbooting in the
rom1 and rom2 subdirectories. make sure directories do
contain other files. you can use the temp/ subdir of the
two rom folders to store your roms while you want to flash
another update.zip
you need a modified version of Amon_Ra's custom recovery image.
it can be installed with this tool, see the options.
options are:
help show this information
vmsetup prepare ubuntu vm for usage
check-dev check if your device is properly attached and connected via adb
boot-rec reboot hero to currently flashed recovery
check-rec check if RA-hero-v1.6.2-DBmod is currently flashed
boot-dbmod put hero in fastboot mode (back+power) first!
fastboot hero with RA-hero-v1.6.2-DBmod
no permanent changes are done, works with unlocked spl only
NOTE: the trackball doesn't select, use green key instead
unlocked-spl copies update.zip for unlocked spl to sdcard, so you can flash it.
if this goes wrong it can brick your phone, make sure you do it right!
flash-dbmod flash RA-hero-v1.6.2-DBmod to recovery partition (permanently)
NOTE: the trackball doesn't select, use green key instead
install-db ALL your data will be lost, so you better have a backup!
install dualboot environment on htc hero
this includes partitioning of the sdcard
place roms in folders rom1 and rom2 first!
romX wipedata wipe data/factory reset romX
romX wipedalvik wipe dalvik-cache for romX
for the following options place update.zip file in folder romX first!
romX flash flashes update.zip from folder romX
romX makeboot create boot.img-update.zip files for romX
romX makeboot push create boot.img-update.zip files for romX and push it to /sdcard
i don't see any potential to brick your phone, even if it fails, as the critical parts (spl, radio) are not touched at all. worst that could happen is that you have to do a full wipe and flash a rom... be careful while flashing recovery and/or bootloader though!
as always: use at own risk!
note: first (and maybe second) boot maybe painfully slow. after that it gets better, see for yourself if it is too slow for you. i have been using villainrom and slidevillain in a dualboot for a few days now, i haven't noticed too much slowdown. then again i don't care too much about this.
credits: huge thx to the ppl in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594077 the information in there helped a lot.
changelog:
v0.2: major update, toolkit for flashing, wiping etc.
v0.1: initial release
installation & usage instructions
please read the first post before you install dualboot!
instructions for windows:
instructions for windows said:
the dualboot install can now set up all necessary stuff in a fresh installed ubuntu virtual machine in virtualbox. you must have adb access to your hero from the windows command line, if you need help check theunlockr.com for their awesome video tutorials.
here is a great howto install virtual box in windows: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox
and this is the second part, howto install ubuntu in a virtual machine: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing
once you are done installing ubuntu download the archive from the first post and follow these steps (the default download directory is "Downloads", so i'm gonna use that in this example):
- go to "Downloads", you find it in "Places" in the upper menu bar
- rightclick the zipfile you just downloaded and select "Extract Here"
- open a terminal window: goto Applications, Accessoires, Terminal
- execute these commands:
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cd ~/Downloads/dualizer/
chmod +x dualizer
./dualizer setup
it will ask for your password once, then do some stuff and finally reboot the virtual machine.
once rebooted, connect your hero to your pc, rightclick on the usb sign in the lower right corner of the virtual machine window and select the "HTC Android Phone". some hardware installations from windows might pop up (happened to me), just click on next and let them do their stuff. if it doesn't work at first shut down ubuntu, then restart your pc and continue. "reboot tut gut", as the german likes to say
back to ubuntu, with your hero connected to pc and virtualbox, open a terminal and check if your hero is detected by adb with the following commands:
Code:
cd ~/Downloads/dualizer/
./dualizer check-dev
this will tell you if your device is properly connected. you can now continue with the options you can get from
Code:
./dualizer help
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instructions for linux:
instructions for linux said:
you need java, perl and zip setup, make sure that these are available. then follow these steps:
- extract the attached zipfile from the first post on your pc (for this example i'll assume you extracted it on your desktop).
- get the two roms you want to dualboot, do not extract them.
- put one rom in the rom1 folder, the other rom in the rom2 folder inside the dualizer folder on your desktop.
- open a terminal, cd to the folder and make the main file executable by typing:
Code:
cd ~/Desktop/dualizer
chmod +x dualizer
- turn on your hero (recovery or normal, doesn't matter)
- connect your hero to your pc and check if your hero is detected by adb with the following commands:
Code:
./dualizer check-dev
this will tell you if your device is properly connected. you can now continue with the options you can get from
Code:
./dualizer help
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Holy... this is incredible. Great job on getting this out.
I use a virtual box and ubuntu 10.04 lts.The method seems to work but in step 3 on partition card my hero restarts and boots in recovery and i don't have time to mount the usb/htc device into virtual box so i get in step 5 an no device found error.The time is very short.I have to press USB-MS toggle on my hero and after that i have to mount it in virtual box.I've tried it over 20 times but i don't have time and in terminal get me the error.Is there a way to pause the process or a solution to my problem?
Sorry for my bad english
EDIT:SOLVED.Set the sleep from dualizer in step3 from 15 to 30.Wainting for setup to finish.Cross my fingers
EDIT2: Ok now this is getting awkward.Waiting on step 4 (push to sd) for 25 minutes now.I have checked the log.Last line says mounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 on /sdcard failed: No such file or directory.Should I wait for it any longer?Or what should I do now?
As I have said on the VillainROM forum; this is really outstanding work.
Well done, Kendon.
Zero00SM said:
EDIT2: Ok now this is getting awkward.Waiting on step 4 (push to sd) for 25 minutes now.I have checked the log.Last line says mounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 on /sdcard failed: No such file or directory.Should I wait for it any longer?Or what should I do now?
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that shouldn't happen, and the pushing shouldn't take longer than a few minutes. you should cancel it by pressing ctrl-c, if you fancy debugging then check why it wouldn't mount. otherwise you can partition your sdcard, do a full wipe and should be able to flash a regular rom.
i guess i underestimated the complexity of the virtual machine solution, gotta look deeper into this... *sigh*
Hi, regarding the Apps2SD issue... Would it ever be possible for the two ROMs that are dual booting to have the same apps sourced from one place... if that makes any sense...
Like in windows... you can "install for all users" so if you log off and someone else logs in with there account the very same apps are there...
Ok bad analogy since we are talking about dual booting different versions like (Vista & Windows 7) ... but the same data on hdd is accessible...
is this possible with the dual booting scenario?
If I had Slide Villain and Villain 5.5 .. both being 2.1 ROMs which would make app compatibility a non-issue...
If I booted up Villain 5.5 and made changes to an app / save data .. could this not be accessible with the slide rom.. I would hate having to install the very same apps on another partition..worst of all if you have save data (such as a game) and wanted to play it on one of the ROMs your game progress would be different?
you could just use Titanium to transfer over the data but agaqin it is a long procedure.
It would be fantastic if we could mirror image exactly what we have on our main Roms to our "secondary roms" ...
Amazing !
Ciao
Fred
Yeah this is really amazing. I have read this on villainRom forum, and i was stupified .
But, if i want to flash another Rom as primary and need to wipe cache, i need to do this process again! Am i right?
for the shared apps:
a shared apps2sd directoy/partition is possible, although you'd have the problem that apps are installed to one market only, and idk what would happen when you update an app in one rom, would the update get market-linked in the other? you can solve this with titanium backup, but it isn't really comfortable at all. i'll think about this.
for shared data: in theory possible as well, but i don't think it would work out well. you cannot distinguish between system data and apps data that easily, and i don't think it would work to share system data (sense settings etc) between two different roms...
@masterxiter: easiest way to do this is to use the installer script again. you can wipe the cache manually, installing another rom would be really complicated (about as complicated as the installer script )...
Sweet. But is there any way i can run this in cygwin? every version of linux ive tried so far doesnt support my crap compaq wifi card or most things, or even wired for that matter, and running ubuntu in a virtual machine gives a reboot every time after step 1 (maybe cos i suck at terminal)
i'll try some time, but i have never used cygwin... so don't expect anything too soon.
joshman99 said:
Sweet. But is there any way i can run this in cygwin? every version of linux ive tried so far doesnt support my crap compaq wifi card or most things, or even wired for that matter, and running ubuntu in a virtual machine gives a reboot every time after step 1 (maybe cos i suck at terminal)
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if you install ubuntu in an virtual machine like VMware(paid) or virtualbox(free) you can just use linux, it will automatically grab all your internet settings and stuff from the windows installation(main computer) so your windows will be like some kind of router for your virtual machine with everyhing working.
Very nice tutorial, i'm not going to try it.. because my phone has to be resend to HTC for fixing some dead pixels, there just messers with screens
BTW. you can also try another linux version sounds crazy, maybe try backtrack?? the only thing you need is linux, backtrack is..
I have backtrack 4 (I could never get wifi on that either, but tbh i couldnt work out how to try (that distro is soo confusing imo). I got backtrack 3 to work a while back, so if i can find the disk im gnna try that.
Also virtualbox didnt put my internet settings at all (maybe co im on win7 ultimate?)
Thanks for the suggestions, cos i know cygwin aint the most elegant solution
changing rom 1 and rom 2
i test lotz of roms.... everyday they are being updated...
say if i dualize with ahero0.8 and Kimera 1.7....
wud i be able to update aHero to 0.9 and leave kimera as it is???
simply can i update JUST ONE rom???
manual setup??
i tried it got error in step 3 and then 'Device not found errors...'
can u make a tutorial for doing it manually.....
kendong2 said:
please read the first post before you install dualboot!
instructions for linux:
you need java, perl and zip setup, make sure that these are available. then
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hihi.. i am trying to do a dual boot, so im wondering what u mean by.. need java , perl and zip setup... can advice me?
He means that you need to have Java, perl and zip installed and configured on your Linux system. If you dont have that installed and configured correctly than the install script wont be able to run.
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He means that you need to have Java, perl and zip installed and configured on your Linux system. If you dont have that installed and configured correctly than the install script wont be able to run.
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oh noes.. .i do not have those in my ubuntu, does that mean i cant do a dual boot? btw, i saw post 2 and post 3 ... are they the same instruction ? or different? (one for windows user and one for linux?)
Ok , I know there is thread about debian running fine on desire z but the tutorial there is highly unfriendly and there are some other stuff you need to do to your desire z. This is my first guide. The reason for posting in dev thread is because chroot and loop requires specific kernel support to power Ubuntu.
Just to explain certain terms here...
Kernel - the interface for android to access hardware. Note that andorid is stripped down version of ubuntu and it does not have loopdevice support
Loopdevice - Imagine virtual disk mount program such as Daemon tools. This requires specifically supported kernels such
Following tutorial will void your warrenty (root and s off) but you can change to warrenty friendly state of course XD Check out xda wiki for more info( study to know what you are doing there.)
There are plenty of guides to get su and busybox( allows android system to be able to utilise more advanced commands) so check out comprehensive guides for g2 and desirez in this wiki below is my version
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If your phone is stock, do a lot of research before doing root and s off. cyanogenmod has good guide on wiki for you to s off and get permanet root. Just for you to know, s off is to disable security for us to flash new kernel with loopback support and root is well... needed for most of hacks in XDA XD
*note for noobs: this is tested with desire z but G2 should not have problems. just be careful of which device's gfree you are using to s off.
ENGINEERING HBOOT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS AND IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR YOU TO DO SO AS IT MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE PROBLEMS FLASHING CUSTOM ROM/KERNEL WITHOUT IT (guides are confusing if custom roms require flashing hboot)
Preparation:
1. busybox (install titanium backup and under problems? you can install busybox in a easy way)
2. Recommended: Clockwork recovery(rom manager in market)
3.Root and S off
4.Optional : remove or move sd card installed apps to internal memory or else LOOPDEVICE may be occupied and you may not be able to mount ubuntu. Do this if you encounter error (caused by app2 sd) please note that recent builds in xda mount loop device as 255 to avoid this problem.
You might want to use adb if necessary
5. android terminal from market
6. 2gb free space in sdcard (certain builds use 4gb as storage image, which is limit for fat32 system)
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Flashing necessary kernel
1. Download suitable kernel with loop device support. I am using cyanogen -> virtuous-kernel-cyanogen kernel from ://files.virtuousrom.com/vision/kernels/
(add http infront) on Stock HTC Sense Rom
2. To flash this, from rom manager, boot into clockworkmod recovery and select zip file to flash. Nandroid backup is recommended beforehand
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Now your phone has loopback support to chroot into UBUNTU or DEBIAN
Well, this method is not native ubuntu but it works fine.
You can now follow any guide on XDA like G1,nexus 1etc on running linux in android. I recommend nexus 1 hacks .com for ubuntu setup or thread "Debian for Desire" for debian setup (note debian seems to have problem with vnc) there are a lot of newbie frendly guides to do this without partitioning your sd card.
What can you do with them? You can use full android terminal , use vim , open office, gcc or eclipse etc ... makes your HTC Vision true small computer with keyboard . Enjoy
Possible solution to errors you encounter while following chroot tutorial for other android devices:
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Errors:
/device/loop is busy etc.... chroot: cannot execute /bin/bash etc... shutting down ubnutu etc....
Solution: 1. Get loopback support by flashing above kernel i mentioned
if not 2. TYPE SU BEFORE YOU RUN BOOTSCRIPT ON ANDROID TERMINAL
or if they say the bootscript is not found then type sh ./*your boot script name*
if not 3. move sd apps to phone as i mentioned eariler
Other errors could be from not installing busybox.
Note that in some cases, busybox is included inside the custom rom so you dont need to install it.
Post names of kernels with ability to run ubuntu for others to know.I did not test all of them.
This is my first guide on xda and i hope this helped xda in constructive way...
Post script: I will try my best to maintain quality of the posts to be up to xda standard. Thank you for constructive feedbacks...
quick problem i noticed
I'm running post ota de-odexed and I installed virtuous-kernel_vision_advanced-v1.0.9.zip in attempts to get loopdevice but now my phone doesn't react to an touch... hahaha it's no biggie I can't fix, just wanted to state out a weird outcome I have never seen before
But hey! Your prep guide is much appreciated!
EDIT: All of the 1.0.9 kernels seem to break my touch :/
you need virtuous-cyanogen 1.3 not standard vituous kennel. it is under cyanogen. Since it is developed for cyanogen, it should be fine for wide range of roms including sense roms but yes, it is buggy. I am looking for better kennel now....
squarememory said:
Ok , I know there is thread about debian running fine on desire z but the tutorial there is highly unfriendly and there are some other stuff you need to do to your desire z. This is my first guide. The reason for posting in dev thread is because chroot and loop requires specific kennel support to power Ubuntu. Well, do not attempt this unless you can use computer well XD
Following tutorial will void your warrenty (root and s off) but you can change to warrenty friendly state of course XD Check out xda wiki for more info( study to know what you are doing there.)
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If your phone is stock, do a lot of research before doing root and s off. cyanogenmod has good guide on wiki for you to s off and get permanet root. Just for you to know, s off is to disable security for us to flash new kennel with loopback support and root is well... needed for most of hacks in XDA XD
*note for noobs: this is tested with desire z but G2 should not have problems. just be careful of which device's gfree you are using to s off.
ENGINEERING HBOOT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS AND IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR YOU TO DO SO AS IT MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE PROBLEMS FLASHING CUSTOM ROM/KENNEL WITHOUT IT (guides are confusing if custom roms require flashing hboot)
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Preparation:
1. busybox (install titanium backup and under problems? you can install busybox in a easy way)
2. Recommended: Clockwork recovery(rom manager in market)
3.Root and S off
4.Optional : remove or move sd card installed apps to internal memory or else LOOPDEVICE may be occupied and you may not be able to mount ubuntu. Do this if you encounter error (caused by app2 sd)...
adb if you want to type things in cmd
5. android terminal from market
6. 2gb free space in sdcard
---------Kernel preparation (may not be needed in some custom roms)---------------------------------
Flashing necessary kernel
1. Download suitable kernel with loop device support. I am using cyanogen -> virtuous-kennel-cyanogen kennel from ://files.virtuousrom.com/vision/kernels/
(add http infront) on Stock HTC Sense Rom
2. To flash this, from rom manager, boot into clockworkmod recovery and select zip file to flash. Nandroid backup is recommended beforehand
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Now your phone has loopback support to chroot into UBUNTU or DEBIAN
You can now follow any guide on XDA like G1,nexus 1etc on running linux in android. I recommend nexus 1 hacks .com for ubuntu setup or thread "Debian for Desire" for debian setup (note debian seems to have problem with vnc)
What can you do with them? You can use full android terminal , use vim , open office, gcc or eclipse etc ... makes your HTC Vision true small computer with keyboard . Enjoy
Possible solution to errors you encounter while following chroot tutorial for other android devices:
-----------------trouble shoot--------------------------------
Errors:
/device/loop is busy etc.... chroot: cannot execute /bin/bash etc... shutting down ubnutu etc....
Solution: 1. Get loopback support by flashing above kennel i mentioned
if not 2. TYPE SU BEFORE YOU RUN BOOTSCRIPT ON ANDROID TERMINAL
or if they say the bootscript is not found then type sh ./*your boot script name*
if not 3. move sd apps to phone as i mentioned eariler
Other errors could be from not installing busybox.
Note that in some cases, busybox is included inside the custom rom so you dont need to install it.
Post names of kennels with ability to run ubuntu for others to know.I did not test all of them.
This is my first guide on xda and i hope this helped xda in constructive way...
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it's KERNEL! not KENNEL!
teh5abiking said:
it's KERNEL! not KENNEL!
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Really dude? That was the only time he mispelled it and you the spelling police make a lousey post as if he mispelled it everytime...get a life
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Well thanks for spelling correction. English is not my primary language
Spastic909 said:
Really dude? That was the only time he mispelled it and you the spelling police make a lousey post as if he mispelled it everytime...get a life
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App
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Tell it spastic tell it!
xsteven77x said:
Tell it spastic tell it!
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I thought you were insulting him XD
I have installed ubuntu without a hitch, but how do i fix the incorrect key bindings?
im thinking of using the technique that uses vnc to access ubuntu on my desire z. i am running 2.3.3 (cyanogenmod-7.1.0) on it. now forgive me for asking this its nearly 1am and im exhausted so my brain is not working right. which version of the kernel am i best getting for this? im a novice at it all but i do want to make sure i do it properly and dont brick my phone.
traumatism said:
im thinking of using the technique that uses vnc to access ubuntu on my desire z. i am running 2.3.3 (cyanogenmod-7.0.0) on it. now forgive me for asking this its nearly 1am and im exhausted so my brain is not working right. which version of the kernel am i best getting for this? im a novice at it all but i do want to make sure i do it properly and dont brick my phone.
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This is a thread about installing ubuntu on the phone, not accessing it from the phone.
tsubus said:
This is a thread about installing ubuntu on the phone, not accessing it from the phone.
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*facepalms* yes i know that. i will be installing it along side android and using vnc to access it locally. its a method i wish to use but i need the kernel for installing ubuntu and want to know which one. i shoulda made it more clear really.
ive just tried flashing the latest kernel for cyanogen with 7.1 but it freezes at the HTC screen on boot. any assistance will be apreciated
Soft chewy center
Here are instructions and downloads that will have you on your way in no time, to running Linux on an IPAQ hx4700.
Step 1: Download a disk image
Ubuntu light weight X desktop download
Android download currently this barely boots
Step 2: Uncompress the file
See p7zip link
Step 3a: Copy the image to a CF or SD card using Linux
Open a terminal and navigate to the directory where you extracted the img file.
Code:
cd somedirectory
Copy the image to the card using dd
Code:
sudo dd if=image-name.img of=/dev/sdx
Where x is the destination of your card. Note there is no partition number "i.e. /dev/hda1" Just the destination letter /dev/hda
Step 3b: Copy the image to a CF or SD card using Windows
Code:
stub
Step 4: Edit startup.txt if you are using a SD card
Code:
stub
Step 5: Run HaRET
Safely remove the card from your computer, insert it in to your hx4700 navigate to the card directory using the file manager then click on haret.exe
Hard crunchy shell
Stuff for the masochist that lives inside you.
Kernel 2.6.21-hh20
Found the source tarball for 2.26.21-hh20 on this link.
I found an android patch for 2.6.21 at this link.
Finally I hammered out this patch that applies smoothly with no fuzz.
And here is my .config file.
Android usb gadget and the low memory killer currently need some love. But without configuring them the kernel compiles nicely
A-Z build instructions
Code:
stub
HaRET
I use HaRET to boot linux on the hx4700, until that day comes when I have learned enough about the hx4700 to provide a ROM, tinboot isn't really that hard to use.
Also the latest HaRET does not boot the hx4700 maybe it is being built with a newer instruction set, until I get a newer version compiling there is an older version in the .img files that works fine.
stub- haret from source
Filesystems
These xxx.img files should be written to a cf card using dd, or sd card if you change startup.txt and the swap file in /dev/fstab. The card should be no less than 1 GB. Gparted can resize/move your partitions if you have a larger card.
I have to admit I don't have a 1gb card to test the img file on, only a 4 and 2 GB card. If someone who does have one finds out that it doesn't boot or something let me know.
Card image layout:
fat16 16mb [haret] partition 1
ext 880mb [root] partition 2
linux-swap 128mb [swap] partition 3
Creating an Ubuntu file system
Creating a file system to run Linux on the hx4700 via HaRET. Rootstock is a tool the will pull down precompiled packages suitable for various devices, from a server. Then install, unpack, and configure them on a disk image file system inside a virtual machine, all without you leaving the comfort of your x86 compatible environment.
For rootstock I followed this guide link.
I used this command to create the image.
Code:
sudo ./rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login xda --password xda --imagesize 3G --seed tslib,build-essential,openssh-server,lxde,gdm --dist jaunty
I'm still thinking of including gnome-core simply for more function but lxde will have to do as the session manger. Gnome is just to heavy.
Light weight X download link at top of page
working:
the Mouse pad is configured
all drivers and firmware load
auto login via gdm.conf
/etc/network/interfaces is preconfigured for usb net and stubbed out for wireless.
not working:
touch screen - needs configured
wireless?? - I think only OPEN or WEP is supported ATM.
Android
stub- building the android filesystem
android.img download link located at top of post
now if I could just get the hang of making my forum post... not ugly
Nice! very nice!
Marvelous news, THX man!
...i love you! :']
As soon as I found this thread I smiled like a giddy school girl. My hx4700 might just be useful once again! I know nothing on programming... but i'd be glad to help out in any way possible!
Update folks,
I was up all night slaving away at this but, WE HAVE AN ANDROID PATCHED KERNEL!!! its 2.6.21.hh20 with android patches. This means the drivers should be easier to get worked out.
And Android almost boots, I suspect its the generic "goldfish" file system or some other trivial thing stopping it from booting all the way.
After mounting root and running /init, It shows the message "A N D R O I D_" then freezes well not really freezes the cursor continues to blink. but still almost there...
edit - links added
thanks
thanks a lot it's very usefull
Just seen a boot animation, it just got real people... but still not booting all the way.
keep up the good work...seems that this is the only development going on for my trusty iPaq 4700.......
I just want to say thanks for all the supportive comments. It's a real shot in the arm when I'm feeling over whelmed by the complexities of this. I did something really stupid with "sudo dd" last night and boogered up my root file-system, so I'm spending today re-setting up my build environment
All of the hardware is supported but just not pushed upstream but I’m working on a new 3.0 kernel right now for the universal when I finish I will add the hx4700 patches and post the source and message you. But I know wifi, Bluetooth, touchpad, sound, led, and all buttons work in 3.0. And these are the same on the universal and I have these working with froyo now. But I can post my 2.6.36 kernel I’m using now after I make a few corrections.
Here's my form page link
And this is where some of my code and android builds are: link
The common.tar.gz is my old 2.6.36 kernel I have to make some corrections and fix the hx4700 code I messed up and reload it in a day or so.
--I had to post this here as I got a message that you cannot receive private messages.
Thanks!
Don't know why you got that message, I did get your PM.
Could you make a tutorial, step by step how to run android(haret, etc.) on hx4700, please?
I'm noob in windows mobile tools
im currently running Angstrom on my hx4700
but would love android too..
havent tried any of these images yet. but ill probably have some
spare time this week..
/Kyndal
On tenterhooks ...
It failed to boot (couldn't mount /dev/hda2 I think) when I tried to install and run from a Compact Flash, so I'm in the middle of dd-ing to an SD card instead. Fingers crossed ...
EDIT: It boots fine from the SD card.
However, it's rather sluggish at best, and there don't seem to be many productivity apps -- and no onscreen keyboard. Still, it's a start!
EDIT 2: Attached a small photograph for the curious. Sorry about the blur, but I couldn't manage a better shot, given the lighting and the camera's fudged-up CCD.
kyndal said:
im currently running Angstrom on my hx4700
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How in the world did you manage that? I've been trying to get Angstrom working on my hx4700 for months now, without success. (Aside from an old bootpack that literally has no useful programs.)
I haven't had much luck with any "new" Angstrom builds from the
narcissus online builder..
Right now. im running an older X11 build
booting from SD card .img file
Functional.. but ya. not up to date..
/Kyndal
kyndal said:
I haven't had much luck with any "new" Angstrom builds from the
narcissus online builder..
Right now. im running an older X11 build
booting from SD card .img file
Functional.. but ya. not up to date..
/Kyndal
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I would like a copy of this .img file (cleaned of personal stuff, of course). It'd be nice to have a usable Angstrom for a change.
you can try it out with the prebuild images (OLD)
apparently im not allowed to post external links yet...
so go to this address
angstrom-distribution.org/releases/2007.12/images/hx4700/
and download
Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-hx4700.rootfs.img.bz2
Angstrom-boot-2.6.21-hh20-r6-hx4700.exe
extract the .img file from bz2 to a FAT SD card
and place the .exe there too..
run the .exe select the img file. can be a little fiddly on the "touchpad"
"enter" is like in the middle. and half the time moves the cursor up/down
this linux lives in the loop .img file on vfat..
not on partitions. so pretty easy to try..
run these commands to get online with wifi
su
/sbin/modprobe acx
/sbin/modprobe hx4700-acx
/sbin/iwconfig wlan0 essid ACCESSPOINT
/sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up
/Kyndal
kyndal said:
you can try it out with the prebuild images (OLD)
Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-hx4700.rootfs.img.bz2
Angstrom-boot-2.6.21-hh20-r6-hx4700.exe
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Yeah, I've tried the image before - months ago -- but I didn't know about those commands /sbin! I'll give them a try and see if I can get anything useful installed (the image comes without any useful GUI - or even CLI, for the most part - applications).
EDIT: Unfortunately, even though the package manager seems to be capable of fetching the correct packages (it's hard to tell), it consistently fails to install them -- I even tried installing man and nano (one at a time) and was met with failure even though the URLs check out. (abiword took longer before failure, hence my suspicion it downloads fine).
I apologize for derailing the thread like this, but this is the only place I've found since I got interested in putting Linux on my iPAQ where someone is actually *answering* my questions.
It's ok Strife89, I appreciate you all actively helping out, I was out of town house hunting last week.
Maybe everyone here could come up with a "wish list" request for packages to be installed among other useful things/configuring/etc, so we can all help polish the ubuntu installation, and make it something nice/useful.
As far as android goes, I have more confidence in the kernel than I do the file system, as to where I am right at this moment, donut will boot and show a boot animation. That is as far as I have gotten, but still it is progress.
I look forward to working with anyone interested with helping out, so lets here some thoughts/suggestions.
Well let me add mine first I guess we need a clearer easier tutorial on getting linux booting from the sd or cf card. both of these options have subtle differences and need better defined instructions.
edit- As far as installing apps to the ubuntu.img. The usbnet interface is configured on the hx4700 side hopefully, if some one wants to do some googling on how to get it setup all the way on the PC side of things, I think we would all appreciate that. Then we could just ssh in and apt-get anything we wanted to try out or change. Later we could make it part of the download/tutorial after testing.
Because I didn't really like all the useless code in the windows root method, I decided to clean up that batch file a bit as well as convert the whole process to linux (not sure if it's out here, I remember seeing a linux rooting thread but kill me if I can't find it right now) and remove leftover files from the /stuff directory (they're not really needed, just methods for other devices based on the original root method
Anyway, on the Windows script side, I cleaned up the code, removed the korean text and rewrote what echos because I believe the lines that were there were simply not telling what the user what the script was doing. (installing vs pushing, there IS a difference).
On the linux side, I tore the script from the windows root, and modded it out to work on most linux systems (you need sudo for it to work right, and it helps if you have adb preinstalled in your path, but the way I wrote it it should detect if you have adb running and skip the startup of the version I provided)
As always, with the windows root method, make sure you have the drivers (i tried to download but keep getting 'access denied', you may have to search for these in other places, or maybe it's just not liking that I'm on linux) and try running as admin first, if that fails, run normally, and with BOTH methods, turn on 'unknown sources' and 'usb debugging'.
Other than that, if you have any issues with this, (other than forgetting to chmod +x RootOptimusG.sh ) let me know below!
Is this for V7 and V8, or does this work with V9 as well?
j4g3rb0mb3d said:
Is this for V7 and V8, or does this work with V9 as well?
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only tested with V8
jat255 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996702
[HOW-TO][Linux] Root Sprint Optimus G
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Aah, yes I see it now, however my script does most of the work yours manually asks for automagically. Though TY for your link too
Also AIO in the dev section for lin and win.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039421
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Hi, I've just got the new nexus 7 flo tablet, and am wanting to run linux in android, but havn't been able to get any of the methods to work, and I believe it has to do with loop device mounting not being supported in my kernel, is there any kernels that currently support it? I'm currently on CM10.2 nightly, but can flash any rom or kernel, because the only reason i got the tablet is to run linux on it
In linux installer it says "Can't mount BLOCK part. Did you forget to format?'
The error it gives me in log is "mount: Operation not supported on transport endpoint"
D4rkMagician said:
Hi, I've just got the new nexus 7 flo tablet, and am wanting to run linux in android, but havn't been able to get any of the methods to work, and I believe it has to do with loop device mounting not being supported in my kernel, is there any kernels that currently support it? I'm currently on CM10.2 nightly, but can flash any rom or kernel, because the only reason i got the tablet is to run linux on it
In linux installer it says "Can't mount BLOCK part. Did you forget to format?'
The error it gives me in log is "mount: Operation not supported on transport endpoint"
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I've got the same problem,... Looking around Google a bit, it could also have something to do with root not being fully root like before in 4.3. (Google trying to stop rooting.) Some things seem to be not fully permitted, even with the su and busybox binaries.
It's just a guess though, but you could try cm10.1, because in Android 4.2 Linux Installer mounted and installed the loop just fine for me...
Grtz,
~ Nephatiu
There's issues with 4.3 and installing Linux, this thread has the answer to any questions you guys are having. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467059
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dscblu said:
There's issues with 4.3 and installing Linux, this thread has the answer to any questions you guys are having. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467059
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Wow, this really helped, thanks! Although I didn't really do what was said there, the info on that page did lead to my victory! ;p
That page is for the "Complete Linux Installer" app, which downloads pre-made .img's for you, which apparently seem to work when converted to ext4. I'm using "Linux Installer STANDARD", though, which creates the loop file itself and then installs into it locally, and it has a build in setting where you can choose to use ext2, ext3 or ext4. Problem was, when I selected ext3 or ext4, a popup appeared telling me I didn't have mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.ext4 respectively, so I always went back to ext2, which didn't give me that popup. After reading this, I opened the app, went to the settings and set it back to ext4, ignoring the popup that once again appeared. I then instructed the app to mount the loop file again, which worked, and although it finished with a 'Failed' message, the thing that failed doesn't seem all to important, cause I can enter the chroot now.
Anyway, thanks for the helping link, dscblu!
Grtz,
~ Nephatiu