[SOLVED] Can't boot to recovery/Stucked in fastboot - HTC One X

Hello guys.. Hopefully someone can help me and I hope I didn't violate any rules of XDA...
Here's my problem.. I tried to reverse my HOX back to stock ROM and followede this tutorial of Hansoon2000 on how to reverse everything and go back to stock (part 3 of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069904 ) when I clicked relock bootloader it shows in command that there was no device found, I closed it then show that my phone already relocked (awesome!!) but my phone didn't reboot normally. It went fastboot mode (white background and three android at the bottom and shows on top RELOCKED).. at this point, I cant go anywhere, I can't boot to recovery, can't turn off. It seems stucked on fastboot...
Any suggestion guys?? Please help me.. My last option would to go HTC repair center and it will cost me a lot.

Ok so you need to download a recovery. (I recommend twrp)
Flash the recovery in fastboot. (White screen your on about, select "Fastboot USB".
Run the command fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img
Replace recoveryname with whatever the file is called.
Then, reboot into fastboot and choose recovery.
If all goes well, TWRP/CWM should open.

Since the bootloader is already relocked, a better idea would be to run a RUU. Do
fastboot getvar version-main
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He should unlock his phone again before he wants to flash the recovery.
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Why do you want to do it the hard way ?
A RUU would be only one download and one double click...
Unlocking again and flashing a recovery and flashing a boot and flashing a stock ROM in recovery would be a pain in the ass and woild take longer !
Just sayin'
@OP
Do
fastboot getvar version-main
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Hello guys.. Thank you for all the replies.. I really appreciate those feedbacks..
1. I already have RUU file saved on my computer.. It's .exe, may I know how will I run this file? Since my HOX didn't normally boot and I can't go to recovery mode..
2. I am still trying to download TWRP, for some reason it stucked on 99.9%, I think it's not my luck right now..
My question also about recovery, it shows that my HOX bootloader should be UNLOCKED.. Mine is already relocked, is this still possible?
Again, thank you for all the replies, I'm getting hopes here..

I was just responding to the post before ^^ running the ruu is definitely the better choice
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nicoli26 said:
Hello guys.. Thank you for all the replies.. I really appreciate those feedbacks..
1. I already have RUU file saved on my computer.. It's .exe, may I know how will I run this file? Since my HOX didn't normally boot and I can't go to recovery mode..
2. I am still trying to download TWRP, for some reason it stucked on 99.9%, I think it's not my luck right now..
My question also about recovery, it shows that my HOX bootloader should be UNLOCKED.. Mine is already relocked, is this still possible?
Again, thank you for all the replies, I'm getting hopes here..
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Great! Make sure it matches your main version (fastboot getvar version-main)
Then boot to bootloader, hook usb and select fastboot so that it displays FASTBOOT USB.
The right click the RUU and run as admin.
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Marc199 said:
I was just responding to the post before ^^ running the ruu is definitely the better choice
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Yes, I noted on your comment.
TToivanen said:
Great! Make sure it matches your main version (fastboot getvar version-main)
Then boot to bootloader, hook usb and select fastboot so that it displays FASTBOOT USB.
The right click the RUU and run as admin.
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I'm in office right now, I am excited to try this, haven't tried to do this. I hope it will solve my issue. :fingers-crossed:

Wilks3y, TToivanen and Marc199
---->>> GUys I don't know how will I say thanks.. You guys really awesome!! I revived my HTC One X Thank you for all the replies, I am noob when it comes to this, but because of your help I was able to get ideas..
Again MARAMING SALAMAT!!! :victory: (Thank you very much in Filipino language)

You're welcome
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nicoli26 said:
Wilks3y, TToivanen and Marc199
---->>> GUys I don't know how will I say thanks.. You guys really awesome!! I revived my HTC One X Thank you for all the replies, I am noob when it comes to this, but because of your help I was able to get ideas..
Again MARAMING SALAMAT!!! :victory: (Thank you very much in Filipino language)
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For everyone who thinks its ok not to thank others that help, this is how you thank people !!
On a note, glad to help mate !!

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HTC Wildfire does not turn on

Hello there!
I have a 'bricked' rooted Wildfire which will not boot. However, it is able to enter adb mode.
I have tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691639, but "adb reboot fastboot" does not do anything.
adb logcat shows the system trying to start up, but there is absolutely nothing on the phone's screen.
Anyone has any idea?
Thanks!
Is it s-off? If so you can try Fastboot flash of a safe stock rom.
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shiranmotha said:
Is it s-off? If so you can try Fastboot flash of a safe stock rom.
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Hi thanks for your reply!
No it isn't s-off'd.
adb reboot fastboot only makes the phone reboot to normal mode... nothing on the screen
RUU doesn't work - it waits for bootloader then times out!
Thanks for your help
ryanswj said:
Hi thanks for your reply!
No it isn't s-off'd.
adb reboot fastboot only makes the phone reboot to normal mode... nothing on the screen
RUU doesn't work - it waits for bootloader then times out!
Thanks for your help
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Go to revolutionary IRC and they can help you. I can give you some help. If ADB detects the phone type adb reboot boatloader. Then if bootloader shows up, run the RUU.
xdeveloperx said:
go to revolutionary irc and they can help you. I can give you some help. If adb detects the phone type adb reboot boatloader. Then if bootloader shows up, run the ruu.
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thank you xdeveloperx that worked! This should be stickied ;d
EDIT: Spoke too quickly! RUU completed successfully but screen is still blank
Well if the phone is not s-off'd you still have your warranty. Just make up a story about your phone just didn't work one day and you did nothing wrong.
ddvniek12 said:
Well if the phone is not s-off'd you still have your warranty. Just make up a story about your phone just didn't work one day and you did nothing wrong.
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The phone is on its way to HTC now... thanks everyone for your help!

[Q] Removing CWM + Relocking bootloader?

Hello
I'm kinda new to this and I do not know how to do these things for the one X neither do I know where I can find the links since I have google'd it but couldnt find any information.
I'd appreciate if someone could tell me or link me to the pages.
Thanks
Babehque said:
Hello
I'm kinda new to this and I do not know how to do these things for the one X neither do I know where I can find the links since I have google'd it but couldnt find any information.
I'd appreciate if someone could tell me or link me to the pages.
Thanks
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Flash stock recovery from HERE with fastboot comand: fastboot flash recovery name_of_recovery_image.img
After that, run the fastboot comand: fastboot oem lock to relock the bootloader ... im just not sure for what you need that, but that answers your question
There is an "one x all-in-one" kit that lets you start drom stock to rooted and vice-versa. Sorry foe being unable to link i am on mobile
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Unroot using OneXRoot.com, now stuck at bootloader

Hi guys, seriously need some help.
Was on LeeDroid ROM and Bricked kernel.
Restored my phone to stock ROM using CWM recovery.
Followed the unroot method on OneXRoot.com
All the way till step 13 (factory reset using stock recovery).
Now I can't get out of the bootloader. Seen people mention RUUs. How do I flash them?
Please and thank you,
Laz.
When you are in the bootloader menu. Select fastboot. Have HTC Sync installed but closed. Download the required RUU for your device if you need help with this just ask . Plug your phone in when it is in fastboot and run the RUU.
ste1164 said:
When you are in the bootloader menu. Select fastboot. Have HTC Sync installed but closed. Download the required RUU for your device if you need help with this just ask . Plug your phone in when it is in fastboot and run the RUU.
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Thanks for the reply!!!
Will HTC Sync Manager do? Or does it work only with HTC Sync?
Im not sure actually I installed HTC Sync as I know it comes with the drivers.
ste1164 said:
Im not sure actually I installed HTC Sync as I know it comes with the drivers.
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Alright I'll give it a go.
It worked oh my goodness it worked!!! Thank you so much!!!!
I tip my hat in your general direction sir
Its alright, happy to help
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[Q] Finally took the plunge and rooted it, but can't do anything else?

Finally rooted the phone today, but when I try to go into an alternate recovery, or install a ROM (which I've never done before) the phone reboots (like it should I'm assuming) begins to load what I told it to do, and then I get an image of my phone with a red question mark above it, and my phone just reboots again.
What's causing this?
R: [Q] Finally took the plunge and rooted it, but can't do anything else?
ghostspectrum said:
Finally rooted the phone today, but when I try to go into an alternate recovery, or install a ROM (which I've never done before) the phone reboots (like it should I'm assuming) begins to load what I told it to do, and then I get an image of my phone with a red question mark above it, and my phone just reboots again.
What's causing this?
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Did you flash a custom recovery? If no, flash it and try again
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mr_nooby said:
Did you flash a custom recovery? If no, flash it and try again
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I tried using ROM manager but I get the exact same results
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Tried using TWR got similar results with the image of the phone with a red triangle and exclamation mark :'(
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How are you flashing the recovery. The description you are describing is the stock recovery to flash a new recovery do it in fastboot (fastboot flash recovery name of recovery here)
Get the all in one tool from the dev section and it will do it for you.
All you need to do is choose which one you want CDMA or gsm, twrp or cwm (i prefer twrp for the one v)
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Tehwafflez said:
How are you flashing the recovery. The description you are describing is the stock recovery to flash a new recovery do it in fastboot (fastboot flash recovery name of recovery here)
Get the all in one tool from the dev section and it will do it for you.
All you need to do is choose which one you want CDMA or gsm, twrp or cwm (i prefer twrp for the one v)
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Hey thanks when I get home I'll give it a shot
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'Ok the All in one tool worked. I flashed TWRP, wiped my caches and installed AOKP JB 4.1.2, i've got the "Initiating swagger" screen, how long should this take?It's been about 10 minutes...
So as far as i can tell, the rom install failed because i didnt complete the wipe (because the wipe through TWRP failed...) what causes this?
It will say it failed because the sd-ext didn't wipe (THAT'S A GOOD THING) the /sd-ext is your SD card lol. So did you get into the actual ROM for aokp? So when you clicked swaggerfy it froze? Hmm I'd try a different ROM or different kernel what kernel are u using. I reccomend Jan 3rd super slick (anything newer breaks the camera).
Edit: i noticed you said caches? Do did you click factory reset? I usually do factory and dalvik but i think factory does it all.
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Tehwafflez said:
It will say it failed because the sd-ext didn't wipe (THAT'S A GOOD THING) the /sd-ext is your SD card lol. So did you get into the actual ROM for aokp? So when you clicked swaggerfy it froze? Hmm I'd try a different ROM or different kernel what kernel are u using. I reccomend Jan 3rd super slick (anything newer breaks the camera).
Edit: i noticed you said caches? Do did you click factory reset? I usually do factory and dalvik but i think factory does it all.
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I hope I get a fairly quick response to this Followed some advide in that thread, flashed a kernel (I thought) using the All In One Tool, ever since, I've been stuck in a bootloop. Obviously I have access to my bootloader and TWRP (thankfully). My recovery backup returns the same results though.
Im new to this so I'll try toprovide all the info I can.
Followed the TUT on how to Unlock Bootloader and Root 2 days ago.
Yesterday, using the All In One tool, flashed TWRP onto phone.
Was unable to Flash AOKP JellyBean 4.1.2 so I asked for help again (ROM was flashed, but stuck on Initiating Swagger Boot)
Tried using All-In-One to flash (what I thought was) a kernel, since then, my phone just boots continuously or not at all (depending on if I wipe or whatnot)
While at work, I was able to Flash the AOKP rom and Boot into it, but after about 1 minute of use, it reboots.
This is where I'm at now.
My bootloader says
***UNLOCKED***
PRIMOC PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT- 1.57.0000
RADIO- 1.00.05.0929
eMMC-boot
Jun 18 2012, 10:22:43
I'm using the latest version (2.3.3.) of TWRP
Is there anyway I can find, and delete, the boot.img I flashed with All-In-One, that caused this bootloop?
Found out why: radio is the new version aka .0928
HTC provided a new radio release and it screwed up being able to flash new JB roms. The fixable solution is to find the virgin mobile ruu exe and do that long process to get the old radio: .0521_2(?) back. I'll link you to the ruu thread in a sec let me find it first
Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018518
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Tehwafflez said:
Found out why: radio is the new version aka .0928
HTC provided a new radio release and it screwed up being able to flash new JB roms. The fixable solution is to find the virgin mobile ruu exe and do that long process to get the old radio: .0521_2(?) back. I'll link you to the ruu thread in a sec let me find it first
Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018518
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The only problem right now is when I'm in FASTBOOTUSB my computer doesn't recognize my phone.
You get fastboot USB and you're headed in the right direction
mihirengg19 said:
You get fastboot USB and you're headed in the right direction
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But I'm having a hard time flashing that new RUU because when I'm in my Bootloader, and in Fastboot USB, my computer doesn't see my phone.
WHen I try to enter the fastboot code into the cmd shell, It just says that fastboot is not a recognized command...
That's because you aren't changing the directory to the fastboot folder.
mihirengg19 said:
That's because you aren't changing the directory to the fastboot folder.
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How do I do that?
ghostspectrum said:
How do I do that?
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All right do this.
Create a folder as fastboot on c drive of PC(hope you're on windows)
Download fast boot files.
Put in c:/Fastboot
Go in fastboot mode on phone.
It should say fastboot USB.
Open command prompt.
Type cd c:/fastboot/
Hit enter. The prompt should say this address now.
Type your fast boot command you want
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soham_sss said:
All right do this.
Create a folder as fastboot on c drive of PC(hope you're on windows)
Download fast boot files.
Put in c:/Fastboot
Go in fastboot mode on phone.
It should say fastboot USB.
Open command prompt.
Type cd c:/fastboot/
Hit enter. The prompt should say this address now.
Type your fast boot command you want
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Ok thank you, I do have that fastboot folder haha, gonna have to let my phone charge over night thought (I assume) so I'll try a crack at it tomorrow.
ghostspectrum said:
Ok thank you, I do have that fastboot folder haha, gonna have to let my phone charge over night thought (I assume) so I'll try a crack at it tomorrow.
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Do NOT charge it over night. It damages the battery, and this is experience talking to you. Leave your phone charging for 3 hours, and that's sufficient.
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soham_sss said:
All right do this.
Create a folder as fastboot on c drive of PC(hope you're on windows)
Download fast boot files.
Put in c:/Fastboot
Go in fastboot mode on phone.
It should say fastboot USB.
Open command prompt.
Type cd c:/fastboot/
Hit enter. The prompt should say this address now.
Type your fast boot command you want
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SCratch that. Completed the process, the program said it did everything, but back in bootloader, it still shows Radio- 1.00.05.0929 :/ and I can't get out of boot loader lol

[Q] htc m8 tempered... locked... brick my devıce??

m8 is staying on my device htc hboot as in the picture. recoery does not enter, the phone will not turn on and does not see the fastboot commands. 130 error in the file is directly
gokboru09 said:
m8 is staying on my device htc hboot as in the picture. recoery does not enter, the phone will not turn on and does not see the fastboot commands. 130 error in the file is directly
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Have you tried flashing a firmware.zip by naming it 0P6BIMG.zip and putting it on the root of SD, and you the flashing process is done see if you can get into stock recovery. If that works then you can try flashing TWRP and see if it sticks.
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couple of things
gokboru09 said:
m8 is staying on my device htc hboot as in the picture. recoery does not enter, the phone will not turn on and does not see the fastboot commands. 130 error in the file is directly
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first of all you've posted this in the wrong section.
post right section you'll get better answers. but they will need more detail how did it get like this what was you doing at the time as it looks like your boot loader is locked but you've tampered with the firmware or recovery so what exactly have you done?
manup456 said:
Have you tried flashing a firmware.zip by naming it 0P6BIMG.zip and putting it on the root of SD, and you the flashing process is done see if you can get into stock recovery. If that works then you can try flashing TWRP and see if it sticks.
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ıts 0P6BIMG.zip where ıs ıd_? and ınstall hboot_?
agentbardall said:
first of all you've posted this in the wrong section.
post right section you'll get better answers. but they will need more detail how did it get like this what was you doing at the time as it looks like your boot loader is locked but you've tampered with the firmware or recovery so what exactly have you done?
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ok. ıts One_M8_All-In-One_Kit_v ınstall make relock bootloader. then not open my devıce nad recovery.
gokboru09 said:
ıts 0P6BIMG.zip where ıs ıd_? and ınstall hboot_?
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This is the wrong section for this but look here for flashing firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2824048
Firmware Flashing without the panic attacks...
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manup456 said:
This is the wrong section for this but look here for flashing firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2824048
Firmware Flashing without the panic attacks...
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nooooo do not do this as you bootloader says your s-on so this is likely not to work and may damage your device.
agentbardall said:
nooooo do not do this as you bootloader says your s-on so this is likely not to work and may damage your device.
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Edit: I need to get some rest lack of sleep has me slipping.
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manup456 said:
The point of that thread is for people with s-on to flash without panics.
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the first sentence from that thread.
"To anyone that is S-OFF and wanting to flash firmware I have a safe, quick, and pain free way that I have tested many times on my m7_ul_ca that works flawlessly!"
agentbardall said:
the first sentence from that thread.
"To anyone that is S-OFF and wanting to flash firmware I have a safe, quick, and pain free way that I have tested many times on my m7_ul_ca that works flawlessly!"
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I edited my last post I need some sleep my bad.
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manup456 said:
This is the wrong section for this but look here for flashing firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2824048
Firmware Flashing without the panic attacks...
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tnx. but now my devıce how ıs s off make??
manup456 said:
I edited my last post I need some sleep my bad.
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dw man happens to us all :good:
anway i think you need help from some experts and in right section i did a similar thing last month except managed to have a custom recovery and unlocked bootloader
I recon your best bet is to try and unlock your bootloader again have you tried reinstalling/manually installing the drivers on your computer? also does it make a sound when you plug it in? and what happens if you select hBoot?
Was you trying to return to stock when this happened?
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gokboru09 said:
tnx. but now my devıce how ıs s off make??
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considering your version of hboot I don't think firewater will work which means you would need to use sunshine which costs money...
You would also need to be within you system(Android) and be rooted so at the moment best thing to concentrate on is getting your device a recovery / get it to connect to a PC
If you can get your Device to show up in ADB your chances of recovering it get a lot higher
gokboru09 said:
tnx. but now my devıce how ıs s off make??
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You need to use firewater s-off or if that one does not work for you sunshine s-off works but cost $25 dollars.
The issue your going to have is you can't boot at all and you said fastboot commands not working. Are you sure you have the correct fastboot and adb files in the folder your connected to?
Firewater http://firewater-soff.com/instructions/
Sunshine http://theroot.ninja/
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manup456 said:
You need to use firewater s-off or if that one does not work for you sunshine s-off works but cost $25 dollars.
The issue your going to have is you can't boot at all and you said fastboot commands not working. Are you sure you have the correct fastboot and adb files in the folder your connected to?
Firewater http://firewater-soff.com/instructions/
Sunshine http://theroot.ninja/
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but not open my device
how ınstall firewater
gokboru09 said:
but not open my device
how ınstall firewater
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What did you do to get your phone to this point? I need to know what you tried to do to get a better idea of how to fix it. You said the phone won't boot or go into recovery I need to figure out why so I need to know what you did.
I think your fastboot setup is wrong that's why fastboot is not working what are you typing in terminal from start to when it fails.
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manup456 said:
What did you do to get your phone to this point? I need to know what you tried to do to get a better idea of how to fix it. You said the phone won't boot or go into recovery I need to figure out why so I need to know what you did.
I think your fastboot setup is wrong that's why fastboot is not working what are you typing in terminal from start to when it fails.
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htc one m8 2014 program after you install the bootloader relock the phone did not open anymore. s off my oabilri because it is not? water does not enter the recovery, the phone will not turn .This as in the picture I do not know how I could edit. 0P6BIMG try restart when trying to install, but still the same
gokboru09 said:
htc one m8 2014 program after you install the bootloader relock the phone did not open anymore. s off my oabilri because it is not? water does not enter the recovery, the phone will not turn .This as in the picture I do not know how I could edit. 0P6BIMG try restart when trying to install, but still the same
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I want to help but I'm not understanding I asked what commands your using because you say fastboot is not working. And your comment is very confusing.
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gokboru09 said:
..... after you install the bootloader relock the phone did not open anymore.....
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OK... this is what I can understand.
You relocked the bootloader for some reason then you unable to boot the phone anymore and when you try to enter recovery, it boots to bootloader again. All fastboot command doesn't work.
Now ... do you still have the unlock_code.bin with you ? You need to re unlock the bootloader then other fastboot command will work like fastboot flash recovery recovery.img and etc.
ckpv5 said:
OK... this is what I can understand.
You relocked the bootloader for some reason then you unable to boot the phone anymore and when you try to enter recovery, it boots to bootloader again. All fastboot command doesn't work.
Now ... do you still have the unlock_code.bin with you ? You need to re unlock the bootloader then other fastboot command will work like fastboot flash recovery recovery.img and etc.
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yes guys. ı have bin code. but how ınstall not understand

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