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[Q] going back to stock after the 4.3 OTA update

I'm currently running beanstalk 4.4.1 rooted with twrp installed. I did the 4.3 OTA update before I went with the custom roms.
what is my options as far as going back to stock 4.3? I've read several threads but non of them were the exact scenario that im in. Any help is appreciated.

Are you running an AT&T phone? If you are, you cannot flash any rom that tries to flash a bootloader that is older than 4.3. If you do, it will brick the phone.

audit13 said:
Are you running an AT&T phone? If you are, you cannot flash any rom that tries to flash a bootloader that is older than 4.3. If you do, it will brick the phone.
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yes it is at&t. Also I do have my original backup but twrp doesn't recognize it

Why not load a 4.3-based ROM? If you want to go back to stock, you could try using mobile Odin to load a stock ROM.

[Q] Stuff is harder to find for sgh i747m

Hi im new on this forum and I would like to have some tricks and tips cause I just rooted my phone yesterday and it seems more difficult to find information for my phone I have a galaxy s3 on 4.3 sgh i747m with Rogers .... Is it me or there is just a lot more stuff made for the i9300... I have tried to find ROM'S and tricks to put CWM recovery but it's harder to find information !!
to put CWM recovery I saw a lot of stuff saying download rom manager and install CWM recovery with this app but they offer me a version of CWM recovery for a galaxy s3 (metro cps) they doesn't say if it's made for a sgh i747 so im really scared to do something wrong if I install this version of CWM recovery ..
Could some one help me maybe with website limks or a guide for beginers noob like me or this forum seem's to be really good with some people with knowledge
Before my galaxy s3 I had a Jailbreak Iphone 3gs a year ago but Rooting an Android and putting stuff on it is not really the same thing it's far away from it!

And does it matter if put some stuff on my phone made for at&t sprint etc.... even if those are sgh i747

Hey,
I am running CM11 d2att and CWM d2att on my i747m and it works perfectly. It has been so long since I did it that I can't remember the exact steps that I took, so I would do some more research. Everything I needed to know was on these forums somewhere.
I believe the rough steps I took were:
- Root
- Install CWM (d2att)
- Update bootloaders (i747m)
- Flash d2att rom
But I can't remember exactly, so do some research before you go ahead!

You can install pretty much whatever you'll find in these forums except for bootloaders and modems.
There are specific bootloaders/modem for the i747m vs. i747.
The rest, unless explicitely specified otherwise, is 100% compatible between i747 and i747m.
As for your recovery script, I would suggest installing TWRP instead of CWM.
TWRP is more user friendly for people that are new to Android and both are usually supported.
For this, go to the Play Store, download and install the "Goo manager" application.
Once installed, open up the app, hit the menu button and select the "install recovery script" option.
It will automatically select/download/install the correct recovery for your phone and ask you to confirm before doing so.

HiKsFiles said:
You can install pretty much whatever you'll find in these forums except for bootloaders and modems.
There are specific bootloaders/modem for the i747m vs. i747.
The rest, unless explicitely specified otherwise, is 100% compatible between i747 and i747m.
As for your recovery script, I would suggest installing TWRP instead of CWM.
TWRP is more user friendly for people that are new to Android and both are usually supported.
For this, go to the Play Store, download and install the "Goo manager" application.
Once installed, open up the app, hit the menu button and select the "install recovery script" option.
It will automatically select/download/install the correct recovery for your phone and ask you to confirm before doing so.
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Ok thank you thats what I was wondering it doesn't matter if it's an at&t, bell or rogers... but it have to be the right model !!
Your talking about bootloader ... when I rooted my phone I have unlock my bootloader right ?? What is the advantage of changing your bootloader ....do you have to change it when you put a custom rom's?? Maybe my question have no sense at all because im new to this but I keep reading a lot of stuff on android !

carlosQC said:
Ok thank you thats what I was wondering it doesn't matter if it's an at&t, bell or rogers... but it have to be the right model !!
Your talking about bootloader ... when I rooted my phone I have unlock my bootloader right ?? What is the advantage of changing your bootloader ....do you have to change it when you put a custom rom's?? Maybe my question have no sense at all because im new to this but I keep reading a lot of stuff on android !
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I recommend not updating your phone to any stock 4.3 ROM. A stock 4.3 ROM will install a 4.3 bootloader which cannot be downgraded and may cause problems when trying to root or get back to stock.
Some newer ROMs require an updated bootloader in order to install and boot. I am running a 4.1.2 bootloader on my i747m and don't have any problems installing 4.4.2 ROMs.
Rooting gives you access to the system files and does not unlock you bootloader.
For installing custom ROMs, I use Philz Touch which is based on CWM. I have tried TWRP and I was getting errors when flashing custom ROMs. I was able to flash the same ROM using Philz Touch without a problem. TWRP is more user friendly but doesn't work as well for me.

audit13 said:
I recommend not updating your phone to any stock 4.3 ROM. A stock 4.3 ROM will install a 4.3 bootloader which cannot be downgraded and may cause problems when trying to root or get back to stock.
Some newer ROMs require an updated bootloader in order to install and boot. I am running a 4.1.2 bootloader on my i747m and don't have any problems installing 4.4.2 ROMs.
Rooting gives you access to the system files and does not unlock you bootloader.
For installing custom ROMs, I use Philz Touch which is based on CWM. I have tried TWRP and I was getting errors when flashing custom ROMs. I was able to flash the same ROM using Philz Touch without a problem. TWRP is more user friendly but doesn't work as well for me.
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what do you mean when you say I recommend not updating your phone to any stock 4.3 ROM (when a custom rom is based on 4.3?) and can you explain me the bootloader thing in details how can I fix that or how can I unlock it ?
what is d2att ?

carlosQC said:
what do you mean when you say I recommend not updating your phone to any stock 4.3 ROM (when a custom rom is based on 4.3?) and can you explain me the bootloader thing in details how can I fix that or how can I unlock it ?
what is d2att ?
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Your post says youhave 4.3 on your phone. Is it a stock 4.3 ROM?
d2att (i747) is the AT&T version of the s3. Canada has the i747m.
The bootloader does not need to be unlocked in order to install a custom recovery or to root like Motorola phones.
The bootloader is software that an OS works with in order to function as a phone.

audit13 said:
Your post says youhave 4.3 on your phone. Is it a stock 4.3 ROM?
d2att (i747) is the AT&T version of the s3. Canada has the i747m.
The bootloader does not need to be unlocked in order to install a custom recovery or to root like Motorola phones.
The bootloader is software that an OS works with in order to function as a phone.
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yes its the 4.3 jelly bean stock rom
but can I put any custom rom for my model the i747 or 747m ? The carrier doesn't have any importance ?

Any warranty left on your phone? Installing a custom ROM will void your warranty.
If you want to install a custom rom, copy the ROM you want to the internal or external SD card, install Philz Touch recovery, boot into recovery, wipe cache, Dalvik, install the ROM, and reboot.
You can install any ROM for the d2att as long as the ROM supports the phone's bootloader.

How I know which bootloader I got? If I have the 4.3 jelly bean I have a 4.3 boot loader?
Sent from my SGH-I747M using xda app-developers app

audit13 said:
Any warranty left on your phone? Installing a custom ROM will void your warranty.
If you want to install a custom rom, copy the ROM you want to the internal or external SD card, install Philz Touch recovery, boot into recovery, wipe cache, Dalvik, install the ROM, and reboot.
You can install any ROM for the d2att as long as the ROM supports the phone's bootloader.
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How I know which bootloader I got? If I have the 4.3 jelly bean I have a 4.3 boot loader?

carlosQC said:
How I know which bootloader I got? If I have the 4.3 jelly bean I have a 4.3 boot loader?
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Of you loaded a stock 4.3 ROM, you'll have the 4.3 bootloader.

audit13 said:
Of you loaded a stock 4.3 ROM, you'll have the 4.3 bootloader.
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thank you for your help

Since you have TWRP installed, you not flash custom ROMs. Look around for a ROM you like, download it to your phone's SD card, boot into recovery, wipe cache, Dalvik, flash ROM, reboot.

audit13 said:
Since you have TWRP installed, you can not flash custom ROMs. Look around for a ROM you like, download it to your phone's SD card, boot into recovery, wipe cache, Dalvik, flash ROM, reboot.
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He meant you CAN flash custom roms.
As long as the rom isn't packaged with a modem or bootloader you can flash any AT&T rom as you please.
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theramsey3 said:
He meant you CAN flash custom roms.
As long as the rom isn't packaged with a modem or bootloader you can flash any AT&T rom as you please.
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Thanks for catching my error. I edited my original post.

audit13 said:
Thanks for catching my error. I edited my original post.
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No problem hope you would do the same for me.
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[Q] cant flash 4.4.2 rom

I attempted to flash a 4.4.2 rom yesterday but it couldnt and it gave me a status 7 error. I looked it up and people said that you have to update clockworkmod. Well i tried to through terminal but it couldn't. It said something like could not find directory. So if anyone has any idea what I can do pleast tell me.
Using Galaxy s3 sgh-i747 on PA 3.99.1 ROM

Flash Philz Touch from here via Odin (use the tar version in PDA): http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/d2att

alright i did it through odin and it worked..now im gonna make a backup again and try flashing a rom. hope it works. thanks for the help

If you can't flash a KK ROM, you may need to update your bootloader. If you're not on a 4.3 bootloader, try and avoid it for now.

audit13 said:
If you can't flash a KK ROM, you may need to update your bootloader. If you're not on a 4.3 bootloader, try and avoid it for now.
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im on a 4.3 rom but if i get error status 7 again ill just restore my backup and avoid it...is there a 4.3 bootloader? Also i was about to wipe it but its asking me wipe data/factory reset or clean to install a new ROM. I suggest its the 2nd one but if i do it and it doesnt work can i still restore my backup?

orlans21 said:
im on a 4.3 rom but if i get error status 7 again ill just restore my backup and avoid it...is there a 4.3 bootloader? Also i was about to wipe it but its asking me wipe data/factory reset or clean to install a new ROM. I suggest its the 2nd one but if i do it and it doesnt work can i still restore my backup?
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There is a 4.3 bootloader that would be installed if you ran an OTA update to 4.3 or you manually installed the 4.3 bootloader.
Did you make your backup using Philz? If not, make the backup using Philz, then wipe and install.

audit13 said:
There is a 4.3 bootloader that would be installed if you ran an OTA update to 4.3 or you manually installed the 4.3 bootloader.
Did you make your backup using Philz? If not, make the backup using Philz, then wipe and install.
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I just made a backup on Philz and im not sure if i installed a 4.3 bootloader manually or OTA. Just to be clear im wiping to install ROM. so the 2nd option

orlans21 said:
I just made a backup on Philz and im not sure if i installed a 4.3 bootloader manually or OTA
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Doesn't really matter but it's good to know that you need to stay away from any attempts to downgrade the bootloader.

hahah why would i want to downgrade?

orlans21 said:
hahah why would i want to downgrade?
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I have seen posts where people bricked their phone when trying to return to a stock ROM using Odin.

well...im gonna have to put it back to a stock rom when i get a new phone and give this to my dad...i still have the 4.1 stock downloaded on my computer...i dont even remember how to put it back now lol. so i should try flashing a 4.4.2 rom? which rom do you prefer? i have carbon and liquidsmooth. i want halo like i do on PA and both have it i believe

orlans21 said:
well...im gonna have to put it back to a stock rom when i get a new phone and give this to my dad...i still have the 4.1 stock downloaded on my computer...i dont even remember how to put it back now lol
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You can't restore to a completely stock ROM not that you have a 4.3 bootloader. AT&T never released a full 4.3 stock ROM, only an update to 4.3 from an earlier stock ROM.
If you did not have a 4.3 bootloader, you could install any stock AT&T ROM such as 4.1.1. Being able to restore to stock 4.1.1 would also allow you to sim unlock your phone for free, if necessary.

audit13 said:
You can't restore to a completely stock ROM not that you have a 4.3 bootloader. AT&T never released a full 4.3 stock ROM, only an update to 4.3 from an earlier stock ROM.
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well im on rogers and its the same as att. i still have the original samsung touchwiz 4.1 rom just incase anything happens.

Your original post said you have an sgh-i747 which is an AT&T model. If you have a Rogers s3, it's an sgh-i747m.
Regardless of which model you have, you can't downgrade from any 4.3 bootloader which means you can't completely revert back to 4.1.1. The best you could do would be to run 4.1.1 on a 4.3 bootloader.

audit13 said:
Your original post said you have an sgh-i747 which is an AT&T model. If you have a Rogers s3, it's an sgh-i747m.
Regardless of which model you have, you can't downgrade from any 4.3 bootloader which means you can't completely revert back to 4.1.1. The best you could do would be to run 4.1.1 on a 4.3 bootloader.
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sorry i should have included the m lol. i wont worry about going back to 4.1 until the galaxy s5 comes out and im ready to give it to my dad. but back to focusing on this. im about to attempt to flash a 4.4.2 rom. either liquidsmooth or carbon. what do you like?

I prefer Validus version 4.3 because it includes Nova Launcher and it has a dark UI theme.

but thats 4.3. i wanna be on 4.4 and im installing nova and making it the way i had it before.
wait a second is it a 4.4 rom?

orlans21 said:
but thats 4.3. i wanna be on 4.4 and im installing nova and making it the way i had it before.
wait a second is it a 4.4 rom?
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It is a 4.4.2-based rom. The release is version 4.3.

hmm interesting...you do recommend it? what great features does it come with?

I like it because it's a very stripped-down ROM, has a dark UI, and is AOSP-based.
It's not radically different from other ROMs but has exactly what I want. I run the same ROM on a Nexus 4 and Motorola Atrix HD.

[Q] Downgrading CM11 to stock 4.3 on i747M

I know there are a few threads regarding this issue but I can't seem to find a definitive answer.
I am currently running stock 4.3 jellybean (rooted). My phone hasn't received the 4.4 KitKat update yet, so I wanted to install CM11 in order to get KitKat on my s3. However, I heard CM11 can be buggy on the s3, so in case things go south, I want to be able to revert back to the stock 4.3 rom. Some people have said that you can easily flash the stock ROM via ODIN. However, others said that downgrading from 4.4.2 to 4.3 will hard brick the device since installing CM11 updates the boot loader. So downgrading to 4.3 stock with a 4.4.2 boot loader will cause a hard brick according to other threads I've seen. My question is, how can I downgrade from CM11 to stock 4.3 safely without bricking? Thanks in advance.

If you are sure you are using a Canadian version of the i747m, you can flash back to stock in Odin using a stock 4.3 ROM for the phone's original carrier (Bell, Rogers, Telus).

audit13 said:
If you are sure you are using a Canadian version of the i747m, you can flash back to stock in Odin using a stock 4.3 ROM for the phone's original carrier (Bell, Rogers, Telus).
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Yes I got the phone from Rogers, it's most definitely i747M. But do I have to worry about any issues with the bootloader? I'm assuming installing CM11 will install the 4.4.2 bootloader, so if I choose to downgrade to the stock 4.3 rom, will it cause any issues seeing as I'm running a 4.3 rom with a 4.4.2 bootloader? I just want to make sure because I heard it can cause some serious problems if the bootloader is newer than the rom.

Mzrz said:
Yes I got the phone from Rogers, it's most definitely i747M. But do I have to worry about any issues with the bootloader? I'm assuming installing CM11 will install the 4.4.2 bootloader, so if I choose to downgrade to the stock 4.3 rom, will it cause any issues seeing as I'm running a 4.3 rom with a 4.4.2 bootloader? I just want to make sure because I heard it can cause some serious problems if the bootloader is newer than the rom.
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I have never come across a custom ROM that touches the bootloader. A compatible bootloader has to be loaded on the phone before you attempt to install the custom ROM. Supported bootloaders can be found in the ROM's updater script.
I assume your phone has no warranty since you rooted it on stock 4.3. Did you root it by installing a pre-rooted ROM?
You could copy a ROM to your external SD card, install Philz Touch via Odin, reboot directly to recovery, create a nandroid backup, wipe cache, Dalvik, data, and install your KK ROM.

audit13 said:
I have never come across a custom ROM that touches the bootloader. A compatible bootloader has to be loaded on the phone before you attempt to install the custom ROM. Supported bootloaders can be found in the ROM's updater script.
I assume your phone has no warranty since you rooted it on stock 4.3. Did you root it by installing a pre-rooted ROM?
You could copy a ROM to your external SD card, install Philz Touch via Odin, reboot directly to recovery, create a nandroid backup, wipe cache, Dalvik, data, and install your KK ROM.
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Okay, I was just making sure because I know OTA updates can change the bootloader, so I just wanted to make sure the custom roms don't do that. As for the custom recovery, are you recommending Philz Touch over CWM and TWRP? Do you know which custom recovery is installed from the CM installer?

audit13 said:
I have never come across a custom ROM that touches the bootloader. A compatible bootloader has to be loaded on the phone before you attempt to install the custom ROM. Supported bootloaders can be found in the ROM's updater script.
I assume your phone has no warranty since you rooted it on stock 4.3. Did you root it by installing a pre-rooted ROM?
You could copy a ROM to your external SD card, install Philz Touch via Odin, reboot directly to recovery, create a nandroid backup, wipe cache, Dalvik, data, and install your KK ROM.
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Oh and one more question, my phone was originally carrier locked to Rogers and unrooted on 4.3 jelly bean. I brought it in to a cell store for them to carrier unlock it for me, but they used a rooting method to unlock it (because SuperSU was installed on it when I brought it back). They didn't unlock it with a code, so I'm guessing they used something like Samsung Tool or z3x shell. If I install CM11, will I lose the unlock, considering it's more of a "soft unlock", or is the unlock permanent regardless of how many roms I flash? Thanks for your help!

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Okay, I was just making sure because I know OTA updates can change the bootloader, so I just wanted to make sure the custom roms don't do that. As for the custom recovery, are you recommending Philz Touch over CWM and TWRP? Do you know which custom recovery is installed from the CM installer?
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Philz is based on the latest release of CWM and I prefer CWM over TWRP because I had problems flashing ROMs. Once I switched to Philz/CWM, no more problems.
Mzrz said:
Oh and one more question, my phone was originally carrier locked to Rogers and unrooted on 4.3 jelly bean. I brought it in to a cell store for them to carrier unlock it for me, but they used a rooting method to unlock it (because SuperSU was installed on it when I brought it back). They didn't unlock it with a code, so I'm guessing they used something like Samsung Tool or z3x shell. If I install CM11, will I lose the unlock, considering it's more of a "soft unlock", or is the unlock permanent regardless of how many roms I flash? Thanks for your help!
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The unlock should be permanent. I unlocked it using the free method when on 4.1.1 and no ROM has ever caused it to re-lock. Reflashing a completely stock ROM, including the bootloader, did not relock the phone.
Please remember that flashing and changing ROMs will always carry a risk of soft bricking or hard bricking your phone. Make sure you read all of the guides and be prepared for disaster.
Good read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201860

Unlock bootloader and root new device

I am going to purchase a Nexus 7 2013 and will be wanting to unlock the bootloader and root the device straightaway. I would be grateful if someone could tell me the best way to go about this. Should I carry out these tasks with no ROM updates applied, i.e. on 4.3 or should I update to Lollipop first? Thanks in advance.

With the nexus 7 its as simple as typing fast boot OEM unlock, but here is a more comprehensive guide on the matter. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381698
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Unlock the bootloader before doing anything else, as it will wipe your data in the process.
If you plan on staying with the stock rom, don't bother rooting or installing a custom recovery until you've updated all the way to lollipop, as it can cause the ota updates to fail and you'll just lose root with each update anyways. Beware of taking this route though, the are lots of posts around saying that the latest ota update bricked devices. Might be safer to fastboot flash the latest factory image directly.
If you plan on using custom ROMs, go ahead and root it and install custom recovery then flash away to your heart's content. You may need to update the bootloader to latest version first to successfully flash lollipop ROMs though. I think its version 4.04, and there are flashable zips for doing this somewhere around here that worked great for me.

crazymonkey05 said:
With the nexus 7 its as simple as typing fast boot OEM unlock, but here is a more comprehensive guide on the matter. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381698
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Many thanks. I used the excellent Nexus Root Toolkit.

PrizmaticSmoke said:
Unlock the bootloader before doing anything else, as it will wipe your data in the process.
If you plan on staying with the stock rom, don't bother rooting or installing a custom recovery until you've updated all the way to lollipop, as it can cause the ota updates to fail and you'll just lose root with each update anyways. Beware of taking this route though, the are lots of posts around saying that the latest ota update bricked devices. Might be safer to fastboot flash the latest factory image directly.
If you plan on using custom ROMs, go ahead and root it and install custom recovery then flash away to your heart's content. You may need to update the bootloader to latest version first to successfully flash lollipop ROMs though. I think its version 4.04, and there are flashable zips for doing this somewhere around here that worked great for me.
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I unlocked the bootloader, updated to Lollipop 5.0.2 by flashing the latest factory image, then rooted and flashed TWRP. I would now like to flash custom ROMS. You mentioned I may need to update the bootloader in order to successfully flash custom Lollipop ROMS? Am I correct in thinking I will have the latest bootloader, now that I have updated to Lollipop 5.0.2? Thanks.

pretty pixel said:
I unlocked the bootloader, updated to Lollipop 5.0.2 by flashing the latest factory image, then rooted and flashed TWRP. I would now like to flash custom ROMS. You mentioned I may need to update the bootloader in order to successfully flash custom Lollipop ROMS? Am I correct in thinking I will have the latest bootloader, now that I have updated to Lollipop 5.0.2? Thanks.
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Yep, you're correct. If you flashed the factory image, you should already be on the latest bootloader. :good:
By the way, 5.1 factory image finally was released today for this device.

PrizmaticSmoke said:
Yep, you're correct. If you flashed the factory image, you should already be on the latest bootloader. :good:
By the way, 5.1 factory image finally was released today for this device.
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Great, thanks for letting me know. Do you recommend I update to the 5.1 factory image before I flash any custom ROMS, or doesn't it matter?

pretty pixel said:
Great, thanks for letting me know. Do you recommend I update to the 5.1 factory image before I flash any custom ROMS, or doesn't it matter?
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Doesn't matter, though you may wait for the custom ROMs to update to 5.1 so they will have the latest binaries.

PrizmaticSmoke said:
Doesn't matter, though you may wait for the custom ROMs to update to 5.1 so they will have the latest binaries.
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Thanks. Do you know if CM12 has moved to 5.1 yet?

Not sure, don't really follow cm, but u can just check their website.

pretty pixel said:
Thanks. Do you know if CM12 has moved to 5.1 yet?
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as i know only few devices are on 5.1 yet