As most of you know, the Epic 4G Touch A.K.A E4GT, Just recently received the 4.1.2 (Build GB27/GB28) update. Since we're behind on the 4.1.2 update, do you think we'll see 4.2.2 before they release 4.3?
Just a guess, but no. The international S2 may see it, and we can port it, but Sprint won't push anymore updates as they've deemed this device EOS.
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It would be nice but I doubt it as well. More than 4.2.2, I wish Sprint would give us the USB-OTG functionality, if it's possible through a software update they can simply push to us.
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As most of you know, the Epic 4G Touch A.K.A E4GT, Just recently received the 4.1.2 (Build GB27/GB28) update. Since we're behind on the 4.1.2 update, do you think we'll see 4.2.2 before they release 4.3?
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Behind compared to many other phones, but ours was the first sgs2 US variant.
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Don't think so. But I'm okay with 4.1.2
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Yes we will see it! you know why? Because STONE COLD SAID SO!
Stryke_the_Orc said:
Just a guess, but no. The international S2 may see it, and we can port it, but Sprint won't push anymore updates as they've deemed this device EOS.
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Where did they state this?
I don't know why they would work on & give us 4.1.2, if they weren't working on giving us 4.2.2. Ya know? I hope/think we'll see it some time this year.
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It doesn't make sense. Maybe if sprint still allowed us 1 upgrade a year....
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I'm on virgin mobile. It's more about Samsung, than it is about your carrier
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It is carrier too because in Europe they buy their phones out right. here in the us we have contracts. So it would make sense ffor manufacturers to support older phones. However supporting old phones will prevent people from getting new ones
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We might see 4.2.2 since it would be considered a minor upgrade from 4.1.2
It all depends on what Samsung plans on doing with the Galaxy S II family of devices. It was and still is their number 1 selling device and it has good enough specs to support 4.2.2, we'll just have to wait and see. We won't really know much since Sextape is no longer going to provide any leaks for us.
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I believe Samsung will push 4.2. The titanium version is not that old. Think of all the people who just got one for free on contract. Also Sprint's prepaid versions of the e4gt came months after ours. Samsung already said 4.2 was coming for the S2. I believe that would be the final update before its put to rest.
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March 2013 was 18 months after release. So I very much doubt we will see official TouchWiz 4.2. However, our phone already has AOSP 4.2, and if (more likely when) the i9100 gets a TouchWiz 4.2, we will almost certainly see a port, since we use much of the same hardware.
Samsung will be relasing a direct to you 4.2 around the 2year anniversary of the device as the final major update to the s2 line. After the 4.2 push all s2's will be EOL'd by sammy and only maintenance updates will be issued for any major bugs in 4.2
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Samsung will be relasing a direct to you 4.2 around the 2year anniversary of the device as the final major update to the s2 line. After the 4.2 push all s2's will be EOL'd by sammy and only maintenance updates will be issued for any major bugs in 4.2
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Do you have a source for this? I would love to read it! That's pretty awesome of them to do that.
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Do you have a source for this? I would love to read it! That's pretty awesome of them to do that.
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They're doing it on all device's starting with s2. They're going to support them out 24 month's even without carrier support by using the kies direct download updates. A friend of mine that works for Samsung is the one who told me they're doing this. She said almost every device they manufactured after jan 1, 2011 will be supported for 24 months whether the carrier's support them or not. Even the budget device's will be supported the same way. It was the number 1 complaint they received and a majority of the update issues were due to carrier delays so they decided if the carrier's reject the update they'd do direct download updates via kies to keep their support agreement with Google intact. They made an agreement with Google and the OHA (Open Handset Alliance) to support all device's for 18+ months and decided after reviewing complaints from customers that they would support for 24 months, the average length of a carrier contract.
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I'm on virgin mobile. It's more about Samsung, than it is about your carrier
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It's about surplus inventory. More specifically it's about selling off the remaining Wimax SoCs and getting some revenue off WiMax, itself, until Sprint stops supporting it. They did the same thing with the Evo 3D. You can also buy a Virgin Hotspot for $120 and get unlimited WiMax (with 2GB of unthrottled 3G fallback) for $35/mo, which is a steal in some markets. However, the EOL for these devices is determined by how quickly they can liquidate them.
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They're doing it on all device's starting with s2. They're going to support them out 24 month's even without carrier support by using the kies direct download updates. A friend of mine that works for Samsung is the one who told me they're doing this. She said almost every device they manufactured after jan 1, 2011 will be supported for 24 months whether the carrier's support them or not. Even the budget device's will be supported the same way. It was the number 1 complaint they received and a majority of the update issues were due to carrier delays so they decided if the carrier's reject the update they'd do direct download updates via kies to keep their support agreement with Google intact. They made an agreement with Google and the OHA (Open Handset Alliance) to support all device's for 18+ months and decided after reviewing complaints from customers that they would support for 24 months, the average length of a carrier contract.
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Fantastic!
Thanks!
BTW I only know for sure the intl s2 and gsm US s2's will get 4.2 but there is a very high chance the CDMA versions will get it as well. Typically when the international version gets an update the US versions get it ported over a few months later after they have the time to make the network specific changes and test everything. It's actually fairly simple for Samsung to build 1 version for their main international model and then migrate it to the rest of the device's in the same family without having to waste time and resources completely rebuilding everything for a specific device. Think of it like AOSP they build 1 main branch in their repo and compile it and test on their main flagship (nexus for AOSP, International models for Samsung in this case). Once they have a solid working build then they fork the repo and start adding device trees for other models and then compile and test until they get most of the bugs out and get a stable enough build to be confident it won't destroy someone's phone when it updates.
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Hey Just passing this along. Idk if our phone will get the update but since the galaxy sII is on the list there is a good chance.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...ill-get-Android-4.1-Jelly-Bean-update_id34807
Remember we are on sprint. We are always some of the last devices to be updated, if ever. Great phone- bad support from samsung and sprint.
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Remember we are on sprint. We are always some of the last devices to be updated, if ever. Great phone- bad support from samsung and sprint.
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yeah when I read it I was excited. but knew it was going to take time for ours like usual. o well
mad5870 said:
yeah when I read it I was excited. but knew it was going to take time for ours like usual. o well
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Yes the official release may take some time, if ever, to get to us. But we might just some leaked builds along the way that would be more than useful.
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Hey Just passing this along. Idk if our phone will get the update but since the galaxy sII is on the list there is a good chance.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...ill-get-Android-4.1-Jelly-Bean-update_id34807
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I just woke up and came here to post this, thanks! lol
I really hope we get some JellyBean goodness, if not, sprint can go shove it!
We will get official Jelly Bean. It's not happening right away, but it will happen.
Our phone is CDMA which is one major reason that we won't see an update as quickly as the international SGS2…
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If its anything like the moment or epic, it will be when the phone is at its end of life and no longer sold in the stores. Oh, and it will probably be the last official youll see.
I don't expect to see a jelly bean update for this phone. I would genuinely be surprised if it sees official jb.
Although they said the sgsII that doesn't mean the epic 4g touch variant. More stuff to support and more stuff to go wrong that becomes sprints problem. Also, people would see how capable this exynos really is and not go get an sgs3, with the only differences being the screen and a 4g chip you're never gonna use anyway, because sprint wants the world to buy iphones. I'm getting off this sinking ship and switching to verizon asap.
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I don't expect to see a jelly bean update for this phone. I would genuinely be surprised if it sees official jb.
Although they said the sgsII that doesn't mean the epic 4g touch variant. More stuff to support and more stuff to go wrong that becomes sprints problem. Also, people would see how capable this exynos really is and not go get an sgs3, with the only differences being the screen and a 4g chip you're never gonna use anyway, because sprint wants the world to buy iphones. I'm getting off this sinking ship and switching to verizon asap.
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The epic branding has been retired, its now the sph-d710 galaxy s2, Samsung has promised support for a minimum of 18months after release on all devices starting with the gs2 series so we will more than likely get official JB, and it won't take as long as ICS since the upgrade from ICS to JB isn't as intensive as from GB to ICS was. Samsung has sworn off carrier branded devices and starting with the sgs3 all devices will be nearly identical except for the few differences for network compatibility. Mostly radios and modems, otherwise hardware and software will now be as close to exactly the same as the original international variant and all devices will be available on all carriers as close to the same release date as possible.
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The epic branding has been retired, its now the sph-d710 galaxy s2, Samsung has promised support for a minimum of 18months after release on all devices starting with the gs2 series so we will more than likely get official JB, and it won't take as long as ICS since the upgrade from ICS to JB isn't as intensive as from GB to ICS was. Samsung has sworn off carrier branded devices and starting with the sgs3 all devices will be nearly identical except for the few differences for network compatibility. Mostly radios and modems, otherwise hardware and software will now be as close to exactly the same as the original international variant and all devices will be available on all carriers as close to the same release date as possible.
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Wow if what you say is true I will probably stick with the samsungs galaxy line for my next phone, because I was thinking about going right for the next nexus no matter who it was who made it.
They can't even get ICS right, I doubt we get JB.
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Wow if what you say is true I will probably stick with the samsungs galaxy line for my next phone, because I was thinking about going right for the next nexus no matter who it was who made it.
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I'm trying to decide between the note 2 and the new nexus for my personal line, whichever I don't get for it ill be adding on my work line, ill prob be getting the sgs3 on my personal line and putting the et4g on my work line when the note 2 launches until my upgrade comes up in the beginning of Dec. My dads got the sgs3 and will be preordering the note 2 so ill get the sgs3 once his note comes in. That's one good thing about having a technophile for a dad he buys a new phone off contract everytime it drops and gives me his old one so i don't have to use up upgrades too often unless I want a nexus or something he hasn't bought yet. He's been sticking with Samsung since the et4g launched, which I'm fine with I got sick of dealing with HTC and their locked up bootloaders after the GB update on the og evo and after the moto photon I won't ever buy another moto device that thing sucked to try and mod, I can't go with a device that you have to sacrifice something to be able to flash
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Idk if im late but we getting JB
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/24/samsung-rolling-jelly-bean-toward-most-of-its-smartphone-tablet/
I wonder if we will get an updated TW. I think thats where a lot of problems are coming from.
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Why are people saying that we won't have Jelly Bean? Samsung stated that they would support this phone for up to 18 months! Believe it or not Jelly Bean might be our last official update. I don't think they will go beyond 4.1.X :0
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I wonder if we will get an updated TW. I think thats where a lot of problems are coming from.
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A plain android release would be much better.
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A plain android release would be much better.
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lol i hear that but id be happy if samsung leave they task killer tho i love it
They won't do a pure Android release of Jelly Bean I don't think because it would be too much of a change for regular people, even though most of us would love it. We will probably be able to get it through sprint id though. I wish they would change the colors in tw to stock Android blue though, so much better then green and white.
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Hey Just passing this along. Idk if our phone will get the update but since the galaxy sII is on the list there is a good chance.
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Yes....but i believe that when & if that day comes, theres gonna be a butt-load of sg2 users scrambling to get back to stock in a hurry. Ironic, cause the first update is pretty much what helped to cause the mad flash frenzy in the first place,(that & growing old waiting)
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Apparently, Samsung still has a lot to learn with respect to providing their customers with a consistent message throughout the medias...
Yesterday afternoon on MobileSyrup.com, a Canadian based mobile news/reviews site...
Samsung Canada: Galaxy Note and Galaxy S III upgrade to Jelly Bean will arrive “before the holidays”
Now, this morning on TGDaily...
Galaxy S III Jelly Bean update may be in 2013
Ok, TGDaily provides no source to their information but still... this is kinda confusing and I would expect a company like Samsung to get their act together, don't you ?
I just ran into this Samsung announcement at BGR... There appears to be no specific timeline for the carriers.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/10/17/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-jelly-bean-upgrade-begin/
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Apparently, Samsung still has a lot to learn with respect to providing their customers with a consistent message throughout the medias...
Yesterday afternoon on MobileSyrup.com, a Canadian based mobile news/reviews site...
Samsung Canada: Galaxy Note and Galaxy S III upgrade to Jelly Bean will arrive “before the holidays”
Now, this morning on TGDaily...
Galaxy S III Jelly Bean update may be in 2013
Ok, TGDaily provides no source to their information but still... this is kinda confusing and I would expect a company like Samsung to get their act together, don't you ?
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Well both of those articles could be and probably are accurate. The galaxy s3 and notes on one or more of the Canadian networks will likely begin to receive jb during the holidays - mobile syrup is probably right on here.
And I'm sure tg daily is exactly right when it says some of the major US networks galaxy s3's will not get jb to 2013.
This information seems quite inline with what is going on - I'm not sure what you see as being contradictory or confusing.
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My experience with the Samsung Vibrant taught me a very valuable lesson - don't EVER expect timely OS updates when buying a Samsung device, unless that device is a Nexus.
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I have to agree and disagree at the same time. I have had multiple Samsung android phones, and multiple Motorola android phones. Samsung is already pushing out the JB update for their international S3, the only one that they have full control over the updates. Ours has to go through at least a month of carrier testing before att will push it out. The i747 updates even come off of ATTs server. All of the variants have their software pushed out by the carrier, which takes a lot longer. Samsung has had one of the fastest rollouts of JB on the international S3. Moto is much slower than Samsung, or at least have been in the past. This may change now that Google owns Moto. Even the Verizon Nexus JUST got JB, but the international has had it for a while. If you want timely updates, buy an international version of a phone.
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Well both of those articles could be and probably are accurate. The galaxy s3 and notes on one or more of the Canadian networks will likely begin to receive jb during the holidays - mobile syrup is probably right on here.
And I'm sure tg daily is exactly right when it says some of the major US networks galaxy s3's will not get jb to 2013.
This information seems quite inline with what is going on - I'm not sure what you see as being contradictory or confusing.
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Right, didn't see it this way.
It just seems odd that us canadians would be updated before you guys down south
I don't really think timing is Canadian or US dependent, but CARRIER dependent. The fact that the US & Canadian announcements above came out a day apart strongly suggests that Samsung will simultaneously provide the North American SG3 carriers with their updates and then release dates will be determined by the carriers.
Samsung must have already released the update to the carriers ... hence the announcements.
Considering there is a bell jelly bean leak i would say the carriers have had jelly bean for atleast a month now. I expect bell to release it first
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I would assume if you made it to xda you would stop blaming Samsung for carrier variants of phones getting updates. Whatever process carriers have to do to add there bloat has nothing to do with Samsung.
Blame AT&T bell T-Mobile etc.
Samsung sitting back saying we gave them that up date 3 months ago. Our guess is as good as theirs.
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Samsung must have already released the update to the carriers ... hence the announcements.
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Considering there is a bell jelly bean leak i would say the carriers have had jelly bean for atleast a month now. I expect bell to release it first
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This ^
If Samsung hasn't already given the update to all the carriers, they must of already given it to some of them. And I'm sure all the carriers will get something from Samsung (if not already) within the next two months. Then it will be up p to the carriers - some of which will take several months to get their respective customers.
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I have to agree and disagree at the same time. I have had multiple Samsung android phones, and multiple Motorola android phones. Samsung is already pushing out the JB update for their international S3, the only one that they have full control over the updates. Ours has to go through at least a month of carrier testing before att will push it out. The i747 updates even come off of ATTs server. All of the variants have their software pushed out by the carrier, which takes a lot longer. Samsung has had one of the fastest rollouts of JB on the international S3. Moto is much slower than Samsung, or at least have been in the past. This may change now that Google owns Moto. Even the Verizon Nexus JUST got JB, but the international has had it for a while. If you want timely updates, buy an international version of a phone.
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This is one of the reasons why I kept my Galaxy Nexus. As much as I like my GS3, software overlays and carrier interference typically spells extensive update delays.
Who has already updated phones to Jelly Bean? I don't really see a reason to complain. Or at least not to complain about a single device manufacturer. Samsung is generally pretty fast with updates compared to others. Either way they are dev friendly so that means you should have a custom update within a month of release to AOSP.
Do AT&T leaks show up on any AT&T servers? Or is the reason we don't have leaks because it is impossible to find them?
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Do AT&T leaks show up on any AT&T servers? Or is the reason we don't have leaks because it is impossible to find them?
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The att leaks I have seen for previous Samsung phones were usually the result of someone who knew someone on the inside. I'm sure some of the time the leaks were intentionally put out by att for some free bug testing by the development community.
Design gears is one dev who at least in the past had a source - though I don't know how much dg spends on At&t phones or if he still has his connections. Also dg does not seem to spend much time on xda any more.
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I would assume if you made it to xda you would stop blaming Samsung for carrier variants of phones getting updates. Whatever process carriers have to do to add there bloat has nothing to do with Samsung.
Blame AT&T bell T-Mobile etc.
Samsung sitting back saying we gave them that up date 3 months ago. Our guess is as good as theirs.
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This is why I can't wait for next year when all manuf drop nexus devices. I can see this as people will probably stop buying the other phones manuf make and just get nexus devices. I'll probably cop a lg or htc nexus device myself. I'm tired of mother****ers playing with the updates and ****. I just want my vanilla android without the bull**** game playing
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Just read 2 different stories on this. 1 says itll coming "in the coming months" (theverge.com) and the other says early next year.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/17/3516180/samsung-galaxy-s-III-jelly-bean-update-coming-months
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
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Just read 2 different stories on this. 1 says itll coming "in the coming months" (theverge.com) and the other says early next year.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/17/3516180/samsung-galaxy-s-III-jelly-bean-update-coming-months
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
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Seeing how its mid October both could be right.
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I don't see why people feel the need to say this about Samsung. This is fact for EVERY Android device other than the Nexus. LG/HTC/etc updates are no better, sometimes a slight ahead or slight behind, but they all take forever.
We all seem to be missing the point of updates. Its not the ROM itself, its the source code that we want.
so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
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so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
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IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.
Pretty depressing if you ask me. God if the new nexus phone wasn't being made by LG I'd probably be all over that thing at this point.
It will have 4.2 before we even get 4.1
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Telus' S3 will get JB before the end of November, so I'm thinking we should be very close by.
Full application of project butter in an official release of jb will be worth it. Only reason my nexus is still stock is that the only rom on the s3 that comes close to matching its fluidity, for me at least, is tasks aokp. It's night, and day. Slow rollouts of software are just one of those burdens of this era in development. Fortunately, the software is beginning to be more, and more worth it. Someday you'll lecture your grandkids on how we didn't have all this fancy "cognitive request firmware updates, and 5tb/second data speeds" lol
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IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.
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i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..
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i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..
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*shrugs* there was an update from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4
I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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By the time we even get Android 4.1, Android 4.2 will already be out in the market.
First, 4.2 will not be key lime pie.
Second, its not Samsungs fault, its the carriers.
And being the carriers fault - you have to wonder. Do they each only have like 2 people working on the Updates...or wtf. lol
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I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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Because when there is a bug in CM, they can go *shrug*, we'll add it to the known issues list, like the bluetooth audio not working right. When there is a bug in a carrier supplied ROM, think of all the people that are going to want to call AT&T and be like 'Hey this isn't working, FIX IT!'. That costs money to pay the customer service people and it costs money from a PR point of view.
The carriers strive to make things as bug free as possible (which, is laughable considering some of the updates some carriers have pushed out, or even the state of a phone at release *cough*G2x*cough*). If they don't do super extensive testing on everything BEFORE the release, they're going to have to do the same testing AFTER the release, but after it costs them money in customer service and PR image.
It sucks that another manufacturer/carrier is delaying the update. Do we buy a phone on the promise/hope we will see the next update? I don't. "Why am I not getting update XX" seems to be a common complaint. I came from the Atrix 2. Motorola promissed ICS and an unlockable bootloader. The phone is now borderline if not already end of life with At&t and is just getting the ICS update and still a locked bootloader. I bought my GSIII with the thought "cool I will get JB" but didn't care when. With all of the leaks available, if you want JB, you can get it. Seeing some of the bugs in the leaks, do you really want that to be your update? If you got the update and had these bugs, thered posts of "how could they release this buggy version?" Don't get me wrong, I would like to see manufactures and carriers stand by their word, but I realize there are more important things to worry about than why my update is delayed or not getting it. If you want a phone that guarantees you'll see an update, get a ,cough cough, Iphone. Not all features may work but hey, you'll get your update. My one and a half cents and a THANKS to the hard working devs that bring us these leaks and roms (FOR FREE) to satisfy our need to update. YOU GUYS ROCK!
This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?
I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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jmacdonald19 said:
This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?
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Lol
I'm sure a huge population ate xda are
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viking2.0 said:
I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.
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Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.
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Well and doing carrier certification. I think that's more of what ends up taking a long time than updating any carrier add-on software.
Sprint is receiving their OTA to JB starting today. So I'm sure we're not too far behind.
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this sucks but never a problem with custom roms and Samsung is the easiest to update.
I'm new to Android, so maybe that makes me naive. But, I'd like to bring up a few points:
1) How do you know JB for the AT&T GS3 is delayed until 2013? No one has given a release date. Heck, it might be 2014 or 2015. It's misleading to post a title like that.
2) "Coming months:" this ambiguity goes both ways. Sprint released their GS3 JB OTA update today.
3) AT&T is taking long to update their bloatware?! There are three stupid apps: AT&T Hotspots, AT&T Messages, and AT&T Navigator. AND AT&T's already released the Note 2, which comes with Jelly Bean. Thus, these apps have already been updated to work with Jelly Bean!
The holdup on AT&T's part is something else...
So the International unlocked version got their Jelly Bean update today. Man! Why doesn't Sammy hire some of these devs on here to speed up the freaking process!!
Edit: Sorry Sammy its not your fault its the freaking carriers!! Bastards!!! thanks Andy!
Edit again: OK Sammy im putting you back in the crap house!!! bastards!!! thanks intub8!
White Hot! GS3.
blame the carriers.
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blame the carriers.
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Its not Sammy...definitely the money grubbing carriers in the US...its pathetic
Oh I see thanks for sharing! Will change OP freaking carriers!!!! Lol.....
White Hot! GS3.
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blame the carriers.
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Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
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Three leaks? I haven't seen them for download anywhere.
This is getting ridiculous.
just use a custom rom!
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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And I suppose Apple doesn't care about profit margins?
In all honesty, I can't say I disagree. Apple pretty much gave the carriers the finger by strictly controlling what's included in the updates and their release timeline. My biggest frustration with Android is the complete lack of uniformity when it comes to keeping it up to date. With that being said, I would sooner switch to Windows than iOS.
With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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Wut? Samsung has slimmer margins than Apple does. By a LONG shot.
Also, Apple doesn't let carriers control updates, but the carriers do significantly control what is going in to each update (primarily in terms of what features are enabled for use when). They still don't have a gold paved road.
That being said, I do wish Samsung would force the carriers to a better update schedule. I wouldn't care if it was consistently a month after the international version. That would be better than what we have now.
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I spoke to an ATT rep on chat and they said that they were the ones holding up the release. Doesn't seem like they care what with the disabling of google wallet as well.
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With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.
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I kinda agree as I did the same with my S1 i9000 : flashed ROMs and kernels onto it on a weekly basis for nearly 1½ year.
Now that I have my S3, I just don't feel like that anymore as I :
- Appreciate the quality and stability of Samsung's releases
- Enjoy using the best camera app there is
- Know that the phone will eventually be updated to an even better release
However, the day I'll be told by Samsung that my S3 will no longer be elligible to upgrades, just watch me go back to my custom ROMs flashing habits! héhéhé
As for the bloatware ... root and any decent file explorer can help you get rid of it!
I thought most people knew by now that only Official Google devices get (somewhat) prompt updates. I didn't buy my SIII based on what it was going to get, I bought it based on what it already had. IMO as long as they update the phone in a relatively timely manner (within 6 months I'd say) then I am content - even then I wouldn't be too upset. I would just flash something myself.
I do the same. Take official firmware and basically make my own custom rom.
That way I have control about what is and isnt done.
I root it..
remove bloatware myself with root explorer (after copying everything I am about to remove to my external sd for safe keeping)
keep copies of the build.prop, framework-res systemui etc.
I modify the systemui for my own icons etc.
Install other modes etc.
As for leaks the only leak I know off on AT&T based is LH1 which I am running.
I am not running the latest lh9 as lh1 has everything that lh9 has but doesnt have nfc screwed up so wallet still works with it.
I am running the lh9 modem.
By the time the S3 will become ineligible for updates, I will have moved on to my next phone. Back in 2011, Google set up an Android update alliance, where many manufacturers and U.S.-based carriers promised that new Android phones would receive timely OS updates for 18 months after launch. The only timely thing about this promise was the death of this alliance. After Jellybean, I give the S3 one more update before Samsung declares it non-upgradeable. It's unfortunate, but that's just the nature of the beast.
I'm well aware that only official Google devices (Nexus) get timely updates. This is the only reason why I held on to my Galaxy Nexus after buying the S3. I was well aware that it'll be a loooooooooong time before the S3 sees an update, so I kept the Nexus to satisfy my cravings for latest Android versions.
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?
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http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?
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Good find! When the initial Samsung statement regarding the U.S. S3 variants being updated to Jellybean "in the coming months" was issued, it specifically mentioned "all carriers except for Sprint". Although the arrival of the Sprint update may signal that ours are just around the corner, I'm not holding my breath.
I just want to point out that Apple doesn't play by the same ruleset as Android OEM's do when it comes to releasing updates. Part of the original contract with AT&T was to prevent AT&T from having any say in Apple's updates and it kind of just kept going with the other carriers since they wanted the phone to sell so dearly.
Android OEM's have no such stipulation, Nexus devices not counting of course.
Saw on another site that AT&T wont see an update till January.
Of course that is just word of mouth, so take it for what you will.
Sweet!
Just a rumor though. Hopefully it's true! And usually Sammobile is very accurate.
**Credit to rwilco12 for finding this**
Your Source (SamMobile) really doesn't pay much attention to US Spec phones. If you notice they are talking about international models. I wouldn't extrapolate that info to mean anything about our phones.
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Your Source (SamMobile) really doesn't pay much attention to US Spec phones. If you notice they are talking about international models. I wouldn't extrapolate that info to mean anything about our phones.
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If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............
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If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............
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With our phones, it's not just up to Samsung. Qualcomm (because of CDMA tweaks) and Sprint are also involved in producing the ROMs.
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If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............
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Sprints s2 aka the epic touch 4g hasn't got jellybean 4.2 yet... i have both phones
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Um ok, GS3 already has jellybean and GS2 has had multiple jellybean leaked roms so we know they are working on it. Keep in mind the cdma GS2 was just released for Boost and Virgin Mobile within the past couple months and has not been put on end of life by sprint yet, so it is still receiving support funding for software updates.
Also if you were familiar with the update life cycle of top tier samsung phones on sprint e.g. The GS1 & GS2 you would see 2 full years of android version upgrades is the norm not the exception. Look for the GS2 to get 4.1.2 and be EOL end of this year, and the GS3 to get its final update next year and EOL end of next year.
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Premium Suite still hasn't made it to USA S3s. It's not anywhere near a sure thing GS3 will get Android K. My guess is 4.2 with premium suite and some GS4 features after GS4 has been available in the market for a good while, then Sammy will be pretty much done with GS3.
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Premium Suite still hasn't made it to USA S3s. It's not anywhere near a sure thing GS3 will get Android K. My guess is 4.2 with premium suite and some GS4 features after GS4 has been available in the market for a good while, then Sammy will be pretty much done with GS3.
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Samsung like to update their U.S phones with the latest features after the launch It's newest flagship. So, after the GS4 is available in the US that's when we'll see an update.
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Honestly, as far as Carriers go, I believe Sprint is the best when it comes to OS updates. AT&T probably comes in second. And I'm basing this off carrier-specific phones, not international devices on GSM carriers.
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Sprint was bought by Softbank by the way. They have mass amounts of money to spend. And they are not 4th in profits. Basically your whole statement is false. http://allthingsd.com/20130318/hesse-masayoshi-son-met-with-fcc-to-pitch-softbank-sprint-deal/
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I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this. Every Galaxy S phone has been updated to two major versions of android.
Galaxy S (eclair) - froyo and gingerbread
GSII (gingerbread) - ICS and jelly bean
It only makes sense that that the gs3 would get the same treatment and be updated to Key Lime Pie when it's only had one major update (jelly bean)
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I really like the phone as is, but 4.2 is pretty sweet!!!!
I believe we will get it, but they are focused on getting the GS4 selling right now so they will likely wait another 6 months or so.
Right now, you gotta pay to play with the official 4.2 phones.....or go the CM10 route which has bugs.
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I really like the phone as is, but 4.2 is pretty sweet!!!!
I believe we will get it, but they are focused on getting the GS4 selling right now so they will likely wait another 6 months or so.
Right now, you gotta pay to play with the official 4.2 phones.....or go the CM10 route which has bugs.
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Liquid Smooth all the way. No bugs what so ever. Running 4.2.2
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Ill bet you $50 that our s2 will get the official update.... But im also thinking that will be the last update that s2 will get
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Ill bet you $50 that our s2 will get the official update.... But im also thinking that will be the last update that s2 will get
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I don't see the S2 getting Jelly Bean 4.2 update. That phone is to old for that. I see the S3 getting the 4.2 update though, but probably not the 5.0 though. By then most will have upgraded to the S4 or whatever Samsung has out.
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I don't see the S2 getting Jelly Bean 4.2 update. That phone is to old for that. I see the S3 getting the 4.2 update though, but probably not the 5.0 though. By then most will have upgraded to the S4 or whatever Samsung has out.
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I respectfully disagree. After looking at the specs for the s4, I think most people will probably hold out for the S 5. It looks like some minimal hardware upgrades and mostly software upgrades, which I believe the s3 will handle very easily. just my humble opinion though
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We'll have to wait an see. Would rather get one that is tested and none to work then see them push to release one that is buggy.
Hopefully 4.2 comes to the us galaxy s3 none of them got premium suite update feature just the 4.1.2 that's all
It could also be that Samsung, not the carriers, puts the brakes on the S3 in favor of selling (forcing) the S4. Like when Moto stopped supporting the Photon (then a flagship device) within 6 months in order to sell more new "flagship devices" rather than update existing usable consumer products. Consumers who bought into the "latest,greatest" Moto had to offer at the time thinking they would be good for at least a couple years of contract.
It's a double edge sword where someone is going to get cut, no matter if it's from the carrier who doesn't want to spend the money to add their junk, or the manufacture who doesn't want to update "old" products.
With the devices of today, and the power they have, I see the trend moving more and more to the rooting/dev. arena to make existing devices more usable for longer periods of time.
Tech is so far advanced that now, within the terms of a typical 2 year contract, not much can be added to make a consumer justify the cost unless they just HAVE to be "better" than anyone else.
Having said that, the easiest way to continue new sales is to stop developing/supporting "older" devices.