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flashing i9100 roms to t989

i know its been asked but i'm starting the discussion. there has to be an easy way to flash all these great i9100 roms on to our tmobile t989. i would think its mostly a kernal difference and some hardware buttons. i say this because i love hyperdroid roms (mostly wanted s2 for use of his rom) .with the hd2 all builds worked on all phones (europe,asia,usa,etc) no matter the model number.
i am starting the discussion and will help to develop with my time and limited knowledge (i need people who know more about building these roms) a simple zip file to be flashed through cwm. most builds use a base version, then have roms and etc over the top of them. so there must be a way to find a base version you like for any i9100, flash over cwm, then flash a "kernal" of sorts that "adds in or takes out" what is needed for android to run on our t989.
any thoughts? anyone want to discuss this? i have the time (as much as possible, my gf keeps saying "why dont you just make your own and quit bit$%ing").
also i saw a kitchen for building roms for s2 but not sure if its t989 compatible.
lets get to work, our phone is new but the i9100 is already cooking along, we can piggy back and make our phones just as awesome!

Reading from the tittle of the thread, please dont do it! Just fall back..
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So I understand you're not going to try to flash it but you're wrong about the major hurdle: Its the different processor. Since we have different hardware we're not talking about a slightly different radio, we're talking about two completely different devices branded as the same thing.

i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.

To sum up what Kevin said : It's like flashing a sensation rom on our sgs2...(Right?)

but sense has been ported to other non htc devices. my point is it can be done. we should talk about it and get a discussion going. i'd be more then happy to help "port" other roms that are out for s2 varients

cashyftw said:
To sum up what Kevin said : It's like flashing a sensation rom on our sgs2...(Right?)
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kenVAN its my first and last name pushed together But yes.
letrain02 said:
but sense has been ported to other non htc devices. my point is it can be done. we should talk about it and get a discussion going. i'd be more then happy to help "port" other roms that are out for s2 varients
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i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.
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Porting sense to non-HTC phones requires massive amounts of work and open source. Yes, it is possible but whether or not its feasible is a different option. You're right that the kernel is the main difference but even so its much more work than simply adjusting the kernel since there are soooooo many differences. Cashy put it well: you're porting a ROM from effectively a Samsung device to an HTC device. The only similarities are the screen and touchwiz. If you want to give it a go, I'd wait until we have a full ODIN tar to help you recover your phone because you're going to get a few bricks.

Well good luck to us all.
got my T989 few days ago, and I find it much better than the usual i9100 that everyone have on every aspect, except for the lack of support and android development. I regret I based my decision solely on technical spec rather than checking the verity of available firmware and development.
I live and use this phone in Israel, and that stock T-mobile rom I got with it is loaded with lots of irremovable T-mobile apps. Those are irrelevant for me. But the real issue is about the RTL support. I now have to read Hebrew text backwards (taht ekil hpargarap eloh a daer ot yrT) in some text fields. And it won't let me use the mobile hotspot by saying my sim card is not supported. I can't see why it connects to the internet (it does, checked my APN settings twice and it configured right) but won't let me use that hotspot.
Can't these changes in the level of GUI be implanted from other equivalent roms as source code? Does these minor changes take so much work? Before overclocking my phone to 1.89 Ghz I would rather get the basic functions done.
And I'm willing to donate, and to help in any way to promote this project.

I tried a similar thing with my LG optimus 2x (I have model p-999 which is really t-mobile's g2x) by accident. Even though the variations are named optimus 2x and the specs are almost identical, firmwares just aren't compatible with one another.
I flashed a optimus 2x firmware (p-990) to my p999 and I bricked my phone. At this point, even clockworkmod could not recover it. I had to manually partition a t-mobile g2x recovery file one by one on DOS mode to fix this. Finding this solution was like finding a needle in a haysack. I thought there was a good chance that I flushed $400 down the drain when this happened.
So, lol I dont recommend it knowing that gs2 is even a higher price to pay. Hope this helped.

it's something that I almost gave a try and then decided to check in here to see what people say about flashing these roms.. lol. Thanks guys

Lol I actually did try to flash cm for the i9100 on this phone, but thankfully it only gave me an error and didn't actually go through with the flash. (I had literally gotten the phone the day before too lmao)

letrain02 said:
i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.
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It sounds like youve got porting perfectly understood. The devs havent been able to do it, you should explain how porting works to them.

The problem is not just the kernel. The software is most likely compiled specifically for the processor. If you were talking about linux . . . it would be easy because the source code is there and you can compile it for whatever processor you want, but it seems Samsung is a a company who believes in leeching off off open source and mixing their proprietary crap in it then keeping the sources closed and giving the open source community the finger. Just look at how they handled the vertical lines screen issue. Its all about money to Samsung.

jim93 said:
It sounds like youve got porting perfectly understood. The devs havent been able to do it, you should explain how porting works to them.
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Dude no need to be a punk, I seriously dislike people like you who make forums negative. He was asking a question and is trying to learn, which is more than some people do. Keep your negative comments to yourself. If you cant say anything nice don't say anything at all.

This thread was started in 2011, and hasn't been active in over 7 months. There is no need to bring it back from the dead to argue with someone.

Its not as impossible as it may seem(for the experienced dev) if u look in the dev section android88 has ported hellybean from the 9100. I'm learning & I've only gotten a bootloop at worse, haven't bricked yet lol.
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It is possible with a port. The thing that brocks your phone in flashing an i9100 ROM is the kernel. If you switched the kernels, you'll just have a boot loop or no boot. Flashing another devices kernel is the killer.
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letrain02 said:
i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.
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Its not that easy. It the more similar to porting over a ROM for a Sony Xperia. Does that sound easy. Its just a name but inside very different
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Tmogalaxys2 said:
It is possible with a port. The thing that brocks your phone in flashing an i9100 ROM is the kernel. If you switched the kernels, you'll just have a boot loop or no boot. Flashing another devices kernel is the killer.
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Oh god not true at all people have already bricked their phone by flashing i9100 ROMS. Needs to be said before somebody bricks their expensive device.
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thefawns said:
Dude no need to be a punk, I seriously dislike people like you who make forums negative. He was asking a question and is trying to learn, which is more than some people do. Keep your negative comments to yourself. If you cant say anything nice don't say anything at all.
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Its just logic. If its that easy try it and youll learn the inside out of why. Put in a similar amount effort you are asking the dev to put in by learning something about the challenges you are asking the dev to overcome instead of assuming devs arent putting enough thought into it

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Its not that easy. It the more similar to porting over a ROM for a Sony Xperia. Does that sound easy. Its just a name but inside very different
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Oh god not true at all people have already bricked their phone by flashing i9100 ROMS. Needs to be said before somebody bricks their expensive device.
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Its just logic. If its that easy try it and youll learn the inside out of why. Put in a similar amount effort you are asking the dev to put in by learning something about the challenges you are asking the dev to overcome instead of assuming devs arent putting enough thought into it
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i9100 roms port fine to t989 if you know what your doing. Getting BT to work is being a pita for me though

ThdDude said:
i9100 roms port fine to t989 if you know what your doing. Getting BT to work is being a pita for me though
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Where are these ports?
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Development for AOSP- progess in AT&T section!

I think our development fora should be linked with the other 7105 variants, there is significant progress towards CM10 and other AOSP in the AT&T forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018411
But, since there are four (ours, international 7105, AT&T, and Sprint), the devs are scattered, when unity would breed much more success. Our accessories is already linked, how about a linked development (not just the unused developers only forum) or moving threads like this to the linked dev forum? Either way, maybe this will help bring attention to the progress that has been made.

As long as i get aosp before the verizon or sprint varients. Glad to know progress is being made.

fix-this! said:
As long as i get aosp before the verizon or sprint varients. Glad to know progress is being made.
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This isn't and shouldn'tbe about first, besides once one 7105 variant has a working device tree, we all do.

I am trying to get an idea of what the differences are between the phones. From what I gather so far is there is the international 7105 and its variants which are the tmo att and sprints versions and they are all gsm? Then there is the 7100 international and its variant which would be Verizon and they are cdma? But I thought that sprint was cdma carrier so wouldn't the sprint be in with the 7100 version?
From what I understand the physical and specs are the same for all the phones and the hardware is the same except the radio difference between the two. so the software is the major difference. I know on my last phone the sgs2 the att and tmo versions were almost identical twins the two were able to use roms interchangeably without porting except for minor kernel differences. In the end the only problem was the rotation was messed up. and it was fixed by using a the kernel that was native to the device. Like if you used a att rom on a tmo phone you had to use a tmo kernel with it. and also finally someone came up with a flashable .zip fix for it. The .zip fixed the rotation and also the build.prop so that the right device was in the build.prop. So that is what I foresee here in this situation. It will take time but it will happen. I know that we got some real good devs on the tmo side I haven't checked out the other variants yet but I am sure they got some real good devs too. A phone like this was bound to attract top quality people ( and schmucks like me too) I would definitely like to see a dev only subforum for all the devices or even a forum it doesn't have to be a sub forum because then the info will be fragmented because which forum do you put it in tmo, att, sprint, international. I say make a 7105 variant dev only forum for them to talk and work out some kick ass stuff. Like AOSP and cm and of course the ultimate AOKP. And whatever else they come up with.

7105 = international LTE
Variants include:
AT&T
T-mobile
Sprint
Verizon
7100 = international GSM
7102 = Chinese GSM/CDMA dual SIM
Differences include radio hardware/software.
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Coming from HTC since the beginning of my smartphone career... I'd don't know jack about Samsung, Odin, and some other differences but isn't there a way to compile roms without the radio lol? Thta would fix alot. I'm sure there might be various issues between carriers but it should work. I get cmda and dual sim models would be different but at&t model should be able to share. As someone meantioned before, once at&t subforum has their branch... we will too. It just seems that mods separated the forums to cut down on confusion for the end user but it hurts development collaboration between development and hurts the end users who read directions and don't flash stuff blindly. I'm just not used to seeing all this talent wasted by being segregated like this. Obviously there is a reason I'm not seeing... whether due to total incompatibility or something else. It couldn't be that simple, could it?! In the meantime, I'm gonna continue to read up on Samsung development and see if there is anything I can do to contribute... no matter how small or insignificant

sino8r said:
Coming from HTC since the beginning of my smartphone career... I'd don't know jack about Samsung, Odin, and some other differences but isn't there a way to compile roms without the radio lol? Thta would fix alot. I'm sure there might be various issues between carriers but it should work. I get cmda and dual sim models would be different but at&t model should be able to share. As someone meantioned before, once at&t subforum has their branch... we will too. It just seems that mods separated the forums to cut down on confusion for the end user but it hurts development collaboration between development and hurts the end users who read directions and don't flash stuff blindly. I'm just not used to seeing all this talent wasted by being segregated like this. Obviously there is a reason I'm not seeing... whether due to total incompatibility or something else. It couldn't be that simple, could it?! In the meantime, I'm gonna continue to read up on Samsung development and see if there is anything I can do to contribute... no matter how small or insignificant
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there is a way to compile without radios, most of the ROMs do not have radios, or they are optional. Problem is since the radio hardware is different, the kernel needs to be recomplied for the 7105/variants. I will say if they get it on 7105 then AT&T, T-mobile, and Sprint should be easy to get working (sprint would require blobs, T-Mo and AT&T should work out of the box. Verizon would work only if they 1) crack the bootloader or 2) make a special k-sec version of the rom. There is a new dev section that crosses all boards so that should help the devs some. Basicaly if we get 7105 AOSP we get TMO/AT&T/Sprint and possibly Verizon.

I saw on g+ that they got a bootoble version of cm 10 on the note 2 I do not know which model and it was not a dd but it boots. That is a promising sign. We will have it soon. I cant wait. For now I am sticking with stock until a working aokp comes out. That is what I did with my sgs2 when we got ics. I didnt even bother rooting it till aokp came out.

Cmenard said hes got aokp on our note but he s having ril problems...http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Interface_Layer

Madmack in our forums has a fully working cm10 he says. He's working on getting up on github and then post a flashable version for us to test. Only a matter of time now.
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nuwayman said:
Madmack in our forums has a fully working cm10 he says. He's working on getting up on github and then post a flashable version for us to test. Only a matter of time now.
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I flashed it and flashed our modem it worked the calls worked data . The home button didnt though ??
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deeznutz1977 said:
I flashed it and flashed our modem it worked the calls worked data . The home button didnt though ??
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i no longer need TouchWiz if GMD SPen Gestures is working on AOSP/AOKP
that's all I really care about, S-Memo I hardly use anymore.

nuwayman said:
Madmack in our forums has a fully working cm10 he says. He's working on getting up on github and then post a flashable version for us to test. Only a matter of time now.
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Awesome, cannot wait!
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JFizDaWiz said:
i no longer need TouchWiz if GMD SPen Gestures is working on AOSP/AOKP
that's all I really care about, S-Memo I hardly use anymore.
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I barely use spen but it would be cool if it could be included in aosp/aokp.

Check out the dev only sub fourm they are really making some good progress and we got so leagacy devs working on it so it will be soon.

Cannot wait for aosp.

fix-this! said:
Cannot wait for aosp.
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Yea i cant wait too I miss my AOSP

Can we flash at&t roms on our tmobile note 2 ??
I'm a fan of cleanroms.. But the developer doesnt develop for us , he develops for at&t .. Can i just flash his rom without any problem ?

sanchitgrover said:
Can we flash at&t roms on our tmobile note 2 ??
I'm a fan of cleanroms.. But the developer doesnt develop for us , he develops for at&t .. Can i just flash his rom without any problem ?
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Yes you can. Flash the cm10 floating around but be sure to flash the T-Mobile modem. I won't brick if you forget to but the reception/ signal will be much better. I'm using it as my daily driver. Its fast and amazing.
Disregard my signature. I'm on Tmo t889
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sanchitgrover said:
Can we flash at&t roms on our tmobile note 2 ??
I'm a fan of cleanroms.. But the developer doesnt develop for us , he develops for at&t .. Can i just flash his rom without any problem ?
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To my understanding, yes, you can. I myself am on NOTEorious Prime rom which is based on the N7105 firmware but was made for ATT, all needed to do is flash the Tmo radio to get data and since I like to overclock my devices I also flashed the Note2Core kernel which will work with N7100 and N7105 roms; and on top of that I flashed an AOSP theme made by foreverloco since I can't stand Touchwiz. Overall, the UI looks clean just like AOSP (but of course, it ain't the same:crying but you can also see some elements of Touchwiz here and there...
I mean, this is just for now until a more stable port of cm10 shows up for our Note2, like you, I also like to have a clean rom and not layer upon layer upon layer.
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Yes you can. Flash the cm10 floating around but be sure to flash the T-Mobile modem. I won't brick if you forget to but the reception/ signal will be much better. I'm using it as my daily driver. Its fast and amazing.
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How is the audio working out for you so far? I read they were having issues before... Have you tried flashing a third party kernel? If so, which one?
Thanks.

tino_b said:
To my understanding, yes, you can. I myself am on NOTEorious Prime rom which is based on the N7105 firmware but was made for ATT, all needed to do is flash the Tmo radio to get data and since I like to overclock my devices I also flashed the Note2Core kernel which will work with N7100 and N7105 roms; and on top of that I flashed an AOSP theme made by foreverloco since I can't stand Touchwiz. Overall, the UI looks clean just like AOSP (but of course, it ain't the same:crying but you can also see some elements of Touchwiz here and there...
I mean, this is just for now until a more stable port of cm10 shows up for our Note2, like you, I also like to have a clean rom and not layer upon layer upon layer.
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How is the audio working out for you so far? I read they were having issues before... Have you tried flashing a third party kernel? If so, which one?
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Audio seems to work fine. You have to make 2 phone calls upon boot in order for calls to work correctly And in the beginning of a call it sounds really low so you have to toggle the volume during a call and the. It will be regular and loud again. Otherwise seems to run great. I didn't flash any modems or extra kernels besides updated one that was in the thread.

Dual-boot of Sammy and AOSP is working!

FYI - DerTeufel1980 had a solid kernel working fairly quickly and has since worked on the recovery mods to allow installing two ROMs, etc. He has been working through a few items such as USB only working for charging, etc. He is making progress though.
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DerTeufel1980 has a dual-boot kernel working for the Samsung Galaxy line (Captivate, etc). With our help, he has been able to purchase a Note II to work on and I have been updating this thread with donation promises.
The post is below. You can look at his stats (a recognized developer with close to 13,000 thanks) and know that he can be trusted. Just to have him working on the Note II will be a great addition. I started the thread on the AT&T forum and then added it in the N7100/N7105 forum when I realized he lives in Germany. He and I have committed a fair amount of $ to make this happen so if you feel inclined to help out then it would be appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38121246&postcount=27
$200 loan for now. - RichMD
$25 - ceo.mtcl
PAID - $10 - rayandreas
PAID - $50 - mocsab
>=$10 - [email protected]
PAID - $29 - btpd21
PAID - $25 - Jamice4u
PAID - $10 - Shinkinrui
PAID - $5 - muqali
PAID - $10 - rlee008
$5 - kingP1n
$5 - deviusdragger
$5 - lovekeiiy
PAID - $15 CDKJudoka
PAID - $5 ristiisa
PAID - $10 Grant Barker
** After the kernel is working - $100 - PhxDroid86
** After the kernel is working - $20 - Markor13
** After the kernel is working - $15 - trevor7428
** After the kernel is working - $30 - kashortiexda
Update 5/25 - DerTeufel1980 has spent a while perfecting a universal kernel that works on AOSP and Sammy ROMs. The thread is here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239453
He had to work out some bugs that prevented troubleshooting the dual-boot problem. However, he recently returned to the dual-boot problem and has solved it. He has been able to dual-boot with AOSP as primary, Sammy as secondary and vice-versa. He is still fixing some recovery issues, etc but is hopeful that the release will be available tomorrow. This turned out to be much more challenging than other phones but that is probably why nobody else has accomplished it until he had a device to work on...

This is great! Booting aokp and tw rom. Win win!

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This is great! Booting aokp and tw rom. Win win!
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I want to stress that is a possibility (although probable I believe). DerTeufel1980 has already said that certainly you could boot 2 TW or 2 AOSP ROMs. That would be using the same kernel. He would have to swap kernels during the dual-boot process to switch between ROM types I believe but that probably could be done. If anyone is willing to donate to get him a device to work on, please just post here and I will update the OP.

Changed the OP title to ask if anyone is even willing to risk $5.00 for the capability.

are you ready ?

hepterci said:
are you ready ?
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??? Are you asking if we are ready to accept donations to buy a device yet? The answer to that is not yet. DerTeufel1980 can't afford to spend the additional several hundred dollars needed to buy a Note 2. If I can't gather enough donation promises then it will be pointless to ask anyone to donate yet. If you are willing to donate, just reply and I will add your name to the list. I'll even bump my promise to $75.00 if this thread will generate some more donations.

Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?
I buy apps all the time. But not before they are developed. Seen too many projects dropped right after I pay.
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RonnieRuff said:
I buy apps all the time. But not before they are developed. Seen too many projects dropped right after I pay.
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Thanks, but don't you think there is a difference in this case? Anyone can develop and app without the specific device. Nobody could successfully develop a dual-boot capability for a device they don't have to test with. People don't want to donate until after he completes the work. That will not happen if he can't get the device to start the work...
I'm really surprised people aren't willing to "risk" even $5.00 for someone who has already proven he could create a dual-boot kernel.

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Thanks, but don't you think there is a difference in this case? Anyone can develop and app without the specific device. Nobody could successfully develop a dual-boot capability for a device they don't have to test with. People don't want to donate until after he completes the work. That will not happen if he can't get the device to start the work...
I'm really surprised people aren't willing to "risk" even $5.00 for someone who has already proven he could create a dual-boot kernel.
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Sorry... Seen to many people walk away after I donated.
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Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?
RichMD said:
I've created donation threads to try to gather enough funds to get a Galaxy Note II for DerTeufel1980 who has successfully created a dual-boot for the SamSung Captivate (part of the Galaxy S line). After some interest from the AT&T community, it seems to have stalled. I didn't realize how opposed some people are to donation threads but I would ask the following:
If dual-boot is a capability that you would like to have, do a little research to make sure you feel that DerTeufel can be trusted and then consider donating to bring this capability to our device. If he can quickly/easily swap kernels then AOSP and TW ROMs, you could try both without the significant hassle of creating a nandroid backup and restoring every time you want to swap ROMs. I've copied the OP from one of the other threads below.
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DerTeufel1980 has a dual-boot kernel working for the Samsung Captivate. He has promised to create one for the Note II if we can get him a device to work on. I am updating this thread with donation promises. Once we gather enough for him to purchase a device, I will send PMs to everyone on the list requesting they use his "Donate to me" button. Who's willing to donate?
The post is below. You can look at his stats (a recognized developer with close to 13,000 thanks) and know that he can be trusted. Just to have him working on the Note II would be a great addition. I started the thread on the AT&T forum and then added it in the N7100/N7105 forum when I realized he lives in Germany. I will now add a thread in the Verizon community since that audience would also benefit from this new capability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...2&postcount=28
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2154151 - International forum which would be the base for many custom US carrier ROMs
$136 - DerTeufel1980 will chip in 100 euros (roughly $136 currently)
AT&T Community
$50 - RichMD
$25 - ceo.mtcl
$10 - rayandreas
$50 - mocsab
>=$10 - [email protected]
$29 - btpd21
N7105 Community
Verizon Community
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When the time is right I'm good for a hunnit, let me know, and to be honest this dude needs to buy the device and then worry about return on investment, in the end isn't any other way against the rules
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PhxDroid86 said:
When the time is right I'm good for a hunnit, let me know
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Wow, $100.00 would be a great donation. I have been trying very hard to get this to work but it seems to be stalled. I just sent a PM to DerTeufel1980 to see what is the minimum he would need to purchase a device. I am considering taking "all the risk" for the gap between what people donate before the fact and what he needs. I would update the OP for each community to see how much people would donate AFTER it is working and ask him to send a certain agreed-upon amount back to me after he receives the funds. Yes, some would call me foolish but I really want the capability for a few reasons (work related, etc) and I am willing to risk trusting him.

Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?
I can spare 10 bucks for the cause.
Would love to have a dual-boot Paranoid Android/Jedi Master setup!
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Updated totals in the OP

Ill motivate him for sure. $5 is easy, when and where

muqali said:
Ill motivate him for sure. $5 is easy, when and where
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Thanks,
When? - hopefully soon I will send PMs to everyone when enough has been promised to get a device.
Where? - He has a "donate to me" you can use - I will include the link to his profile when I send the PM.

count me in for $10. it would be great to trying a different rom while not having to mess with my main one.

Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?
Pm me info as well I can do $5
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Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?
I'm in for 5.
For science
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Thanks all. I was hoping we could get a bunch of $5 or $10 donations since they can add up fast. Updated totals in the OP.

[Q] Best ROM for beginners?

Hi, I want to flash a custom rom for a family member but they're not too tech savvy so I'm looking for something similar to stock touchwiz but with wifi tether etc, also something that provides decent battery life. Also if anyone has any info on kernels that would be helpful. Thanks!!

patrickjaden said:
Hi, I want to flash a custom rom for a family member but they're not too tech savvy so I'm looking for something similar to stock touchwiz but with wifi tether etc, also something that provides decent battery life. Also if anyone has any info on kernels that would be helpful. Thanks!!
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Forgive my assumption, but your information shows your a Tmobile guy. Is the family member you are trying to flash with Sprint and is their device a Note 2? You might be in the wrong place.
If not, the stock experience is quite good out of box. If they don't know what they are doing, I'd skip setting them up with a custom rom unless you know what you are doing and are close so you can fix any problems that come up. I have the same challenges with my family and since they can barely use their phone's capabilities as delivered, it just isn't worth setting them up with a custom Rom until they at least have mastered the basics of what they have originally received.
If you are looking for the standard tweaks available, just about any of the Roms in the Android Development forum will work. From what I've read, we've got a great bunch of developers working on the Sprint variant of the Note 2. I use Whomp 3.4 presently, and possibly forever, but I read great things about almost all of them. Just don't have the time to evaluate once I found one that met my needs.
As for kernels, the stock kernel works great out of the box. I've tried others, but the need to Tweak between updates was a time sink that I decided to skip for the future. Best is the enemy of good enough, and when good enough is actually great, what's the point? Particularly if your installing for a family member. They won't thank you for causing their phone to reboot randomly.
Good luck.

TMPOOLE said:
Forgive my assumption, but your information shows your a Tmobile guy. Is the family member you are trying to flash with Sprint and is their device a Note 2? You might be in the wrong place.
If not, the stock experience is quite good out of box. If they don't know what they are doing, I'd skip setting them up with a custom rom unless you know what you are doing and are close so you can fix any problems that come up. I have the same challenges with my family and since they can barely use their phone's capabilities as delivered, it just isn't worth setting them up with a custom Rom until they at least have mastered the basics of what they have originally received.
If you are looking for the standard tweaks available, just about any of the Roms in the Android Development forum will work. From what I've read, we've got a great bunch of developers working on the Sprint variant of the Note 2. I use Whomp 3.4 presently, and possibly forever, but I read great things about almost all of them. Just don't have the time to evaluate once I found one that met my needs.
As for kernels, the stock kernel works great out of the box. I've tried others, but the need to Tweak between updates was a time sink that I decided to skip for the future. Best is the enemy of good enough, and when good enough is actually great, what's the point? Particularly if your installing for a family member. They won't thank you for causing their phone to reboot randomly.
Good luck.
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I used to have sprint but canceled my service with them. TBH the only reason they want a custom rom is because WiFi tether just can't seem to work

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patrickjaden said:
I used to have sprint but canceled my service with them. TBH the only reason they want a custom rom is because WiFi tether just can't seem to work
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you can keep the phone stock rooted and just use treve wifi mod, thats what i do. you cant actually use the phones built in hotspot menu in the setting but just run it like an app and you have wifi hotspot. there are even settings in it where you can set up passwords and see a list of who has jumped on your network and whatnot
I just followed the advice from qbking77 and it was pretty simple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGWqLRNoJLg
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also an all in one spot area to root/unroot and a few other small tweaks that got me started, might help you out a bit too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969947

not.plugged.in said:
you can keep the phone stock rooted and just use treve wifi mod, thats what i do. you cant actually use the phones built in hotspot menu in the setting but just run it like an app and you have wifi hotspot. there are even settings in it where you can set up passwords and see a list of who has jumped on your network and whatnot
I just followed the advice from qbking77 and it was pretty simple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGWqLRNoJLg
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also an all in one spot area to root/unroot and a few other small tweaks that got me started, might help you out a bit too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969947
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Thanks I'm gonna do this over the week and see how it turns out

Did everyone jump ship?

Thete is hardly any development on this phone. My note 2 and 3 there were tons of roms. But it's dead here . Every one leave sprint? Not that i blame them sprint is pretty lame. ..

Nah, my guess would be that since we all know Lollipop 5.xx is coming, the developers are probably waiting. It's still a pretty new device too. Jmho...
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Cm and asop romz are built almost daily n there getting more stable

Hybrid-X Stock ROM is probably the most stable and best rom out at the moment. He is also woking on a dark version of the Stock rom. Soo many options unlocked in this rom.
I use to use CM as it was basically "Rooting for Dummies" I am not cutting anyone down (I use to love CM) but you dont have to think with that rom you install and it does the rest it will even update the rom for you. You dont have to think when you have that rom, you are safe and should not have any problems which is why I loved it. However their roms were not stable and updating too often so I tried other builds and found Hybrid-X to be the best so far.
My guess is tho everyone else is waiting for Lolipop to arrive. But tx is still working hard on his ROM and is always improving it even when he says he is done for a while, all of a sudden there is an update or a new mod you can use. If you dont use his at least watch the build and see what is still going on with his rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/rom-t2956667
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Oh and Sprint may seem lame to you, but all carriers have their own pros and cons. For me I left verizon and came to sprint for the unlimited data and I pay a lot less monthly. Went from having to data-mine and count my megabites, to not having to worry, and I typically use 60-70 gigs a month on just my phone I get my money's worth.
xyojimbox said:
Thete is hardly any development on this phone. My note 2 and 3 there were tons of roms. But it's dead here . Every one leave sprint? Not that i blame them sprint is pretty lame. ..
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Maybe we should all jump ship to Verizon or AT&T. Oh wait, there is no development on either because you can't even root their Note 4's...
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I was also curious about this, I'm not too familiar with the whole developer side of android, so I'm learning!
When the official lollipop version is released for the Note 4, will we see more ROMs being developed?, and higher quality? Or should I expect things to stay about the same?
I've really really enjoyed several ROMs I've tested, I'm just curious what to expect once the official Lollipop TW is released.

Good things come to those who wait

Someone on the Hybrid page said they went back to stock and are currently downloading Lollipop. Posted screen shots too, won't be that much longer if this is actually the case. I would assume there will be a lot more action soon, or else the roms that are being made will be the best and there will be no need for a ton of different ones.
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I've really really enjoyed several ROMs I've tested, I'm just curious what to expect once the official Lollipop TW is released.
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No we just got lolipop
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Lolipop is out now for us

And now its eerily quiet out here now... Everyone must be trying to make the best Lollipop ROM! And trying to fix the bugs.
I know which ROM my money is on.

Soulforged666 said:
And now its eerily quiet out here now... Everyone must be trying to make the best Lollipop ROM! And trying to fix the bugs.
I know which ROM my money is on.
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Xnote

xyojimbox said:
Thete is hardly any development on this phone. My note 2 and 3 there were tons of roms. But it's dead here . Every one leave sprint? Not that i blame them sprint is pretty lame. ..
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I can see English is not your strongest subject.

Soulforged666 said:
And now its eerily quiet out here now... Everyone must be trying to make the best Lollipop ROM! And trying to fix the bugs.
I know which ROM my money is on.
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@tx_dbs_tx 's hybrid X. ?

Smart bet! Thank you!
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schlepprock said:
Nah, my guess would be that since we all know Lollipop 5.xx is coming, the developers are probably waiting. It's still a pretty new device too. Jmho...
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This was exactly the reason for the hault in production in KK roms. At least it was for me. No point wasting time on a soon-to-be out of date build. And to sum up the OP's initial post... for anyone who is not happy with the lack of roms for your phone, then there are options for you. You can learn to build your own roms and you can also donate to developers to support and encourage then to continue buildg roms for free. The only reason i started building roms for the Note 4 was because there was really not many if any devs building roms for us sprint users. I made the choice to get off my @$$ and do something about it instead of crying and making posts about it. FYI to anyone not aware... building roms takes a LOT of work and a lot of time. Take that for what it's worth. I would love to sit on my @$$ and wait for awesome roms to come out and not have to build them myself!!! That's the sweet life!!! to those of you who have shown your support and respect to the few devs here in the Sprint note 4 forums, we ALL Thank You!!!