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[REVIEW]Kickstand4u by XDA member- Mouseglider: Review

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What is the Kickstand4u™?
It is a kickstand you can apply to any device period. It is a plastic piece with 4 adjustable settings (two for phones and two for tablets) for different viewing angles and different orientations. It is attached using an adhesive sticker.
What comes with the Kickstand4u™?
The kickstand with adhesive backing(duh), alcohol wipe, installation instructions, and a spare adhesive backing.
What finishes come with the Kickstand4u™?
Clear, semi-clear, glossy black, and matte black.
Does it work with tablets?
Yes. 7" tablets and 10"+ including iPads (BOO APPLE!) Mouseglider is in the process of making an extension for tablets. Not sure about the ETA on this.
Installation & Removal:
Kickstand4u comes with installation instructions that a chimp can follow. The adhesive comes with a small strip of adhesive that you can use to figure out where to apply the kickstand. The adhesive is pretty strong as it held up a few tablets I had with no issue or signs of popping off with just a few millimeters of contact. The install on my Galaxy S3 was simple and quick and I had it working in no time at all. I had to play around with the proper placement and the correct orientation for a tablet. Tablet install instructions can be found here(http://www.remotesystems.com/kicksta...l-instructions).
Removal is a bit trickier as this is an adhesive. So some of you that don't want to slap on something to your naked phone might not want to use this. I have tried the removal off my Galaxy S3 and it sent smoothly without any sticky residue, scratches, or any gunk left behind.Mouseglider has removal instructions on his site http://www.remotesystems.com/kickstand4u-faq .
Installation: 9 out of 10 (10 is highest)
Removal: 7 out of 10
Use, Durability, Practicality, Function
Once the install was done, I was pretty much blown away by how much I actually use a kickstand. It is a bit stiff when you first use it but it breaks in after about a week of daily use. I have used many different types of kickstands from ones built into phones (Evo 4G, Evo 4G LTE, Thunderbolt) and ones built into cases (Seidio Convert, Seidio Active) and this is by far the best kickstand I have used to date. The width of this kickstand makes it ideal on different surfaces and in car use. Those thin little stands would not hold up to a sharp turn in a car. I use these on my Nexus 7 for car rides for the kids and it stays standing through all turns and stops.
I also applied two of them to my Nexus 7. My GOD this was awesome. A 7” tablet is great for watching videos in bed but I always had to hold the damn thing. I put two of these on and left it on my nightstand and it does WONDERS.(One would work just fine too but I wanted two damn it!) I now have insomnia because of this thing. I slapped it onto the back of the Nexus 7 without any issues despite the textured back. It has held on strong and I actually use my Nexus 7 more because of kickstand4u.
While the kickstand on phones is not a new idea, the ability to slap it on whatever and where ever is what makes this stand out. I'm sure you can find other uses for this on other devices. Can't get any simpler than this.
Use: 9 out of 10
Durability: 8 out of 10
Practicality: 8 out of 10
Function: 9 out of 10
Pros:
Very sturdy
4 viewing angles
Easy Installation
Different finishes for different devices
Cons:
A little long to remove but you won’t be doing it often.
Insomnia from watching stuff on your device all night long because of this thing.
Overall:
Buy it if you do a lot of video viewing or want to prop your phone or tablet up at work but don't want to buy a dock or have a dock made for your device. Awesome for movies on tablets and for flights instead of holding your tablet up.
Where can I get one?
http://www.remotesystems.com/kickstand4u-bin

sekigah84,
Thank you for the great review - for those that might have a need for such a accessory - use XDA in the promo code field for 25% off if you decide to give it a try - good until 02-28-13
Thanks Again!
mouseglider

America ook only ?
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mouseglider said:
sekigah84,
Thank you for the great review - for those that might have a need for such a accessory - use XDA in the promo code field for 50% off if you decide to give it a try - good until 01-31-13
Thanks Again!
mouseglider
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Honestly, if it wasn't 3.95 to ship I would have bought one. That just seems excessive to me.

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htcsnap93,
Sorry, I am not sure what you mean when you say American "ook"? only ?
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scarrmrcc said:
Honestly, if it wasn't 3.95 to ship I would have bought one. That just seems excessive to me.
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scarrmrcc,
Thanks for the feedback, I will look into the shipping and look into the possibilty of eliminating "tracking", as right there would save you 0.85 cents.
If that might help you decide, I could also maybe put in a plain envelope and save you a few more cents.
This is a new product and I am still trying to figure everything out. But I believe you are getting a competitively priced one of a kind quality product at 50% off which puts everything at a net price to you at around $8.93 with the current shipping - includes a 1 year warranty and 60 day satisfaction return policy.
But thanks so much for the feedback - I really appreciate it!

I love the idea of this product, however I wonder of the designer might consider a version with the corners of the kickstand leg angled like the one on the case I've linked to below, as this significantly improves stability in landscape orientation.

galt said:
I love the idea of this product, however I wonder of the designer might consider a version with the corners of the kickstand leg angled like the one on the case I've linked to below, as this significantly improves stability in landscape orientation.
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Hello galt,
I am the designer of the kickstand4u tm - doing the blade the way your link/picture shows, doesn't really improve the stability in the Landscape position, what it does do is allow for a steeper angle when viewed in the Landscape position. This is because the blade is wide at the bottom to give it stability in the Portrait position. Therefore if the blade "did not" have that angled corner(s), the phone would be in a more upright angle which might be to upright for comfortable Landscape viewing. So by putting an angle in the blade gives the blade a less upright position for better viewing in the Landscape position. A bad analogy; think of a big heavy motorcycle, if the surface is super solid (not tar where it would dig in and thus fall over on a hot summer day), then just a pointed stick for a kickstand would provide all the stability the heavy motorcycle would need.
With all that being said, the kickstand4u tm has adjustable viewing angles to over come the need for a wide base with an angle cut in. Besides the fact that the phone doesn't weight much at all to affect the stability even if it were to be detrimental to its stability, but as I said above, it does not make it more stable with the angle cuts in the Landscape position.
The kickstand4u tm can also be mounted on your device anyway you see fit to accommodate your preference and can be installed on any device.
I thank you for the comment, as it is much appreciated. I hope I have answered your question.
Thank you!

Thanks for the explanation.
I've placed an order, I'm very excited for this product as I consider a dual-orientation kickstand a necessity, but can rarely find good cases with this option.
Question: the site offers the product in various finishes, but the link to show them doesn't seem to work. Can you show us the finishes?

galt said:
Thanks for the explanation.
I've placed an order, I'm very excited for this product as I consider a dual-orientation kickstand a necessity, but can rarely find good cases with this option.
Question: the site offers the product in various finishes, but the link to show them doesn't seem to work. Can you show us the finishes?
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Hello galt,
Thank you for the order, I am sure you will enjoy them! But to answer your question, the different finishes are shown above at the top of this thread, post #1 - I can see them just fine on XDA, I also can see them on my website, maybe you can paste troubled link here so I can try it.
Anyway, here is the direct link to the different finishes in case all else fails: http://www.remotesystems.com/images/all%20samples.jpg
Again, thank you for the order, you will get a tracking number via email tomorrow when it is shipped.
Edited: yes, I also like dual orientation kickstands, I mean why not make full use of a kickstand if that is what you are looking for? There will be an add on extender for tablets sometime this summer that will give even more versatility to 7" tablets and above - it simply slips onto the kickstand blade and will be thin, lightweight, and adjustable. I will post pictures when final design is finished.

Factory Blemished kickstand4u tm available
As of 01-12-2013, I have some factory blemished kickstand4u tm available. If there is an interest, use Promotion Code "BLEM" - Promotion is good until they are gone.
The quantity is limited. They have a very small "stress blemish" when they were ejected from the mold. The "stress blemish" area does not affect the integrity or product performance in anyway, it is a cosmetic issue. They are only available in Matte Clear.
If you are interested - use the promotion code "BLEM"
So Bottom line: Retail Price = $9.95 - BLEM 70% off Discount Promotion Code = your price of $2.98 - shipping and handling = $3.95 - Your total cost = $6.93 - Yes we take PayPal.
Link to what the factory blemished units look like:
http://www.remotesystems.com/images/ks4u-blems.jpg

the coupon codes are not working tried both xda and blem

raed81 said:
the coupon codes are not working tried both xda and blem
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What area do you get stuck in? For some reason, you have to put the coupon code in twice. On the very first time which does not show the discount and then one at the check out which then "will" show the discount. The first one doesn't seem to do anything, it could be a programing error. I am working with the web software techs and they are upgrading to a new system. But it should work.
Try going thru the whole checkout and let me know. It should work, if not let me know and I will try and fix after I hear from you. BTW when you put the code in, you need to enter the same code in both places - at the cart and before the checkout.
Thanks
EDIT: I just tried both codes and you don't have to enter the code in the very first step - just enter the code in the next step and it should work. They both worked for me. But please let me know so I can fix any problems.
EDIT 2: I think I have it fixed - the error was my fault in programing - it should work correctly now without having to enter the Coupon Code twice.

Thx for the quick response.. I will check it when I get back home
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Thx for the quick response.. I will check it when I get back home
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Let me know if you have any problems, but I think I have it fixed!

I like it
I have purchased one these and I like it a lot i mostly used it like a fly grip to use with one hand securely and to stand phone up using Skype.
thanks :good:

Tried to buy one of these but just received a refund stating they only ship to the continental US. Should be stated clearly for all potential customers before purchase
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cadguy said:
Tried to buy one of these but just received a refund stating they only ship to the continental US. Should be stated clearly for all potential customers before purchase
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cadguy,
Yes, you are correct and I apologize. I have corrected that on the website after I saw your order. I am working on trying to remedy this problem. Again, sorry for the problem. I will contact you again when/if the problem is fixed.
I will also post on the original post I made on XDA located here; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16456886#post16456886 to warn others.
I really appreciate your interest in the kickstand4u tm and I thank you so much for your comment!
Thanks! mouseglider
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JK100 said:
I have purchased one these and I like it a lot i mostly used it like a fly grip to use with one hand securely and to stand phone up using Skype.
thanks :good:
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JK100,
Thank you for the comment!

Got three of these. Tired of paying too much for a kickstand case that breaks in a few weeks. Now I can get a cheap case and stick one of these on. Perfect for GN2.

one80oneday said:
Got three of these. Tired of paying too much for a kickstand case that breaks in a few weeks. Now I can get a cheap case and stick one of these on. Perfect for GN2.
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Your order has been processed - not only can you buy cheaper cases, but a case that you prefer over others that may not have a kickstand - Thank you very much for your order!

Alternate Closing of the kickstand4u tm
As of 01-20-13
Link to "Alternate" way to Close the kickstand4u tm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVYXCUIEJgY
This way is especially helpful when new, as the kickstand4u tm is a little stiff. This is the proper area "touch point" to use when closing. When the pressure is at the very edge of the kickstand blade, it will close very easily. When closing by hand, use the same principle. Pressing on the short piece of plastic that looks like an upside down capital "T" will damage the kickstand.

[Q] Bluetooth keyborad with case

Hi guys,
what do you think on the following:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-Keyboard-Case-Cover-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-10-1-2014-Edition-White-/261357493627?pt=US_Tablet_eReader_Cases_Covers_Keyboard_Folios&hash=item3cda1edd7b
seems to be a slim case with keyboard...
any other ideas?
my dream is to have one of the Logitech products to fit our tablet....

boiteta said:
Hi guys,
what do you think on the following:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-Keyboard-Case-Cover-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-10-1-2014-Edition-White-/261357493627?pt=US_Tablet_eReader_Cases_Covers_Keyboard_Folios&hash=item3cda1edd7b
seems to be a slim case with keyboard...
any other ideas?
my dream is to have one of the Logitech products to fit our tablet....
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I just bought one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Ke...=Kensington+KeyFolio+Expert+Multi-Angle+Folio
It's a cheap case at $20 and the keyboard is made of cheap plastic (definitely doesn't feel as sleek as the Logitech ones). The black fabric case is also not real leather (and definitely does not feel like real leather).
BUT, the important thing is that the samsung galaxy note 10.1 (2014) edition WILL fit this case. Since the galaxy is about .07" wider than an ipad 4 (retina), you can fit (albeit tightly) your samsung note into the plastic slide holders that this case has for the ipad. (It will fit, you just have to shimmy it in carefully).
Mine just arrived this morning and i was able to pair it with my samsung without any issues. Even after the tablet screen goes blank, it seems to keep the bluetooth pairing, so I'm very happy. Only downside that I have seen is that there is no cutout for the microusb charging port (but I might take an exacto blade to it and try to make my own.)
Will be taking the case and tablet with me for the holidays and see how well it works with continued usage.

@scrabbles
can you tell us your experiences with bluetooth keyboard and battery drain? i dont know whether to decide a case with/without external.

DrMystica said:
@scrabbles
can you tell us your experiences with bluetooth keyboard and battery drain? i dont know whether to decide a case with/without external.
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Hmm. I haven't spent a full day with my tablet on bluetooth. I do notice that if the auto-sleep functionality works, then there is minimal battery drain even if I leave bluetooth on. The issue tends to be if I have a case that doesn't fit perfectly (like the kensington one above), then the auto-wake gets triggered, making the battery drain overnight. I usually lose about 30% over 6-8 hours in that case.
I will keep a closer eye on it and report back. I've also been playing around with having an external thumb keyboard (rather than a full-blown keyboard), because those are much smaller and more convenient to carry around. I did also pick up one of the logitech external keyboards (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/tablet-keyboard-ipad) with the stand, but I'm not sure if I'm going to keep that one since the keyboard is huge (but excellent build quality) and not very portable IMHO.

boiteta said:
Hi guys,
what do you think on the following:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-K...es_Covers_Keyboard_Folios&hash=item3cda1edd7b
seems to be a slim case with keyboard...
any other ideas?
my dream is to have one of the Logitech products to fit our tablet....
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Bought one from another seller. I will be getting mine tomorrow and will let you know how it goes. It took over a month to get this as the seller mentioned the first batch they received wasn't up to their standards and they resent it to the manufacturer.
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aznmode said:
Bought one from another seller. I will be getting mine tomorrow and will let you know how it goes. It took over a month to get this as the seller mentioned the first batch they received wasn't up to their standards and they resent it to the manufacturer.
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Here's my review
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49097208&postcount=56

aznmode said:
Here's my review
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49097208&postcount=56
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Do you have a link to the seller you purchased your keyboard from? Great review, btw. Thanks!
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DrMystica said:
@scrabbles
can you tell us your experiences with bluetooth keyboard and battery drain? i dont know whether to decide a case with/without external.
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As an update, I switched over to the logitech keyboard that is a separate keyboard with no case (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/tablet-keyboard-ipad). Battery drain with bluetooth on has been pretty minimal. I'm happy with the battery life - the primary drain is still going to come from the screen and not from having the BT on. I can still go several hours with the BT keyboard connected so no complaints here.

scrabbles said:
Do you have a link to the seller you purchased your keyboard from? Great review, btw. Thanks!
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It's in that thread. Just need to go back 5-10 posts.

Here you go
eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271327702944
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Logitech just announced their Case+Keyboard combo at CES for their PRO line. I read a comment on Engadget that they also announced one coming for our 10.1 but cannot find anything solid on it.
Heres their press release;
http://blog.logitech.com/2014/01/06...size-keyboard-for-samsungs-brand-new-tablets/

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/tablet-keyboard-android-win8-rt?crid=26
Thats what i went with. Only need to use the keyboard here and there. I can keep the smartcase on and it stands up at a great angle. Found it for $30 brand new and free shipping on ebay.
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Would this fit ?
Logitech Ultrathin Keyboard Folio for Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/ultrathin-keyboard-folio-for-samsung-galaxy-tab?crid=1242
The dimensions seem pretty close ...

I just called logitech to see if they would be coming out with a folio for our tablets, the reps gave me the typical answer unfortunately... "we don't have any information on that at this time and if we are, logitech will announce it on the site".
I will say though, something did catch my attention during the conversation. I asked if they had a folio for the Galaxy Note 10.1 and he knew EXACTLY what I was talking about, as he referred to the 2014 edition. In my opinion, that can be interpreted in 1 of 2 ways: either several people are calling and asking for it, or they really do have one in the works.
Although I'm ready to purchase a case and keyboard right now, I think I may wait until my next paycheck to see what logitech does. I'll purchase a super cheap case in the meantime though.

What do you think about this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00H3KM29M/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers or this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FJTV0PG/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers ?
Its seems to be 100% compatible with 10.1 2014 edition, has a good BT keyboard with case and got very nice reviews...
Its not expensive.
I am almost ready to order, just wanted to check if anyone had experience with it.

Kensington
I think someone posted about this keyboard here, so i give it a shot and bought this case with keyboard. The quality is awesome. This case is basically for ipad 4 but it works fine with this tablet. fitting 99% proper. I got this for $17 usd. originally priced for $99.
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Does it have a home or back button that works with the Note? Also how is the tablet screen protected from the kb once closed?
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Does it have a home or back button that works with the Note? Also how is the tablet screen protected from the kb once closed?
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It has the home button but it doesn't work with note tablet since this keyboard is meant to be work with iPad. Last two rows touch the screen but i don't think it matters since i have a tampered glass screen protector. Also, the keys are made of very good quality, so they won't scratch the screen in my opinion. But for $17, i think for me it's a very good decent deal. I love the quality of this product.

Sorry i cant post links.. but..
youtube has currently reviews on 2 BT-keyboard cases for the SGN 10.1-2014
simple search for galaxy 10.1 2014 keyboard
or SM-p600 keyboard
should yeild the desired results..
one is a cheap plastic case sold through ebay via china that was already discussed and photoed in another keyboard thread for the 2014 here on the XDA forums.. but a video is alwyas better.
it seemed to fit just fine.. but for me left ALOT of concerns as it has a 3 tab conection to the front of the tablet to make a "half" case.. leaving the sides and back unprotected.. and while it has a slot to slide the tablet into to stand up.. this slot has 2 "teeth" to frip it.. a from experience on my kocaso m870s and a similar tablet holder with teeth.. and what the other threads pictures clearly showed.. these teeth support the FULL weight of the tablet.. and CLEARLY bend the screen/glass out of shape under the devices weight.
for most this might be a minor issue.. but for a 600$ tablet it seems a bit unwise to damage your high end device with something so poorly thought out.
the "V" stand i use now with the 2 teeth prongs holding the tablet up alsohas the issue while deformingthe screen.. causes a single screen press to register as 3-5 in various spots.. effectivly warping the screen enough that its causing false touch readings when the screen is interacted with..
this forces me to have to hold the tablet in hand and not in the pronged cradle whenever i need to actually physically interact with it.
this other case and the better build quality of the SM-p600 might cause it to be a non issue.. but what pictures i seen in the other thread still makes it an issue worth noting.
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the other case listed on youtube is a full leather folio style case in assorted colors offered through amazon.
from the video allthe holes for the ports are in the right spots.. nothing is blocked.. and the keyboard is detachable and also wrapped in the leather.
honestly theres 2 reviews of this case.. and in BOTH instances the reviewers kept dropping the keyboard while it was being handled.
its meant to be held in place by a series of magnets.. but clearly not powerfull enough ones.
this leather case also seemed to more then double the thickness profile of the tablet making the entire thing look more like a notebook then a freely portable tablet.
while not a deal breaker.. for some this is an issue they best perfer to avoid.. so is clearly worth noting.
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sadly from my research.. ive not found anything that stands out as the ipso-facto "GET ME" case/keyboard for the SM-p600 just yet.. but its still a new device.. and more things are comming out for it all the time.
and knowing how cheap china knock off products are.. and sadly this is what nearly all ebay and amazon items tend to be as of late..either find a decent slim case for protection and all NEEDED featured for the tablet.. and look around local stores for a cheap bluetooth keyboard seperately.. amd keep the keyboard where you do most your business.. and keep typing light using the on screen keys while elsewhere.. and stick with that.. or wait a bit longer to see if anything worth our attentions pops up stateside.

The best car mount for Galaxy S5 - still Arkon Mobile Grip 2

As most of you know, I write hundreds of various reviews in General Accessories section of our forum/community (check out the link in my signature), so I typically being asked questions about what I found to be the best for a specific phone model or specific functionality. One question that always comes up, especially in PMs, what is the best car mount for a specific phone X or Y. I personally believe that car mount should be universal to use with any phone and any case, and with full access to all the ports, and mount option to work on a windshield or a dashboard.
With over a dozen of car mounts I reviewed recently, I have to admit Arkon Mobile Grip 2 (http://www.arkon.com/mobile-grip/) is still my top choice, currently for $19.95 including shipping on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Arkon-Windshield-Dashboard-Suction-Smartphones/dp/B00I58VAZS/). Though I have reviewed it already with my Note 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2648852), some ask me how does it look with S5. Now after getting Galaxy S5, I've been using MG2 in my wife's Highlander and still find it to be the best car mount for the phone.
It's sticky suction base mount adhesive is as strong as a cement attached to any glass or textured dashboard; works even on a slightly curved surface. The removal is clean and doesn't leave any residue, plus it's re-usable - just rinse under a water if it starts to loose it's sticky grip. The mount arm accommodates different angles with an easy adjustment, and universal ball joint allows full 360 degree rotation. The spring loaded grip is very secure and easy to operate with one hand, and it's minimalistic design keeps the back of S5 open to use even as dashcam. Obviously, there is full access to all the ports for charging, headphone/audio cable, and power/volume buttons. As a bonus, MG2 also has a screw mount for universal camera tripod attachment (love it!). Also important to note that it comes with 2-year warranty, and from my experience Arkon guys stand behind their product to take care of you even after warranty expires.
Since I know pictures worth a thousand words, here you go for your enjoyment (with more pictures you can find in my Note 2/MG2 review above).
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Air dock is the best.
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Acaibowl said:
Air dock is the best.
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Never heard of it, do you have a link?

vectron said:
Never heard of it, do you have a link?
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http://www.theairdock.com
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http://www.theairdock.com
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IGG/Crowdfunding campaign that promises to deliver next month while you can pre-order now for $70 a sticky pad with wireless charging to be used with a naked phone or thin smooth surface case and using very cheap basic suction cup base? If you would suggest as an alternative to Arkon (these guys been around for 25 years) something else reputable like iOttie or iBolt, that would be a different story. But I really fail to see how it's the best car mount

Ford had been around for a 100 years and still making ****y cars. I honestly don't think Arkon is better for me.
You have to agree that microsuction surface is way cooler than brackets.
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Ford had been around for a 100 years and still making ****y cars. I honestly don't think Arkon is better for me.
You have to agree that microsuction surface is way cooler than brackets.
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Are you Armando who reviewed it in the video?
Regarding companies and how long they been around, I didn't mean it in a way that it justifies the quality, although I can speak from a hand's on experience since I tested and compared a lot of car mounts where Arkon quality is at the top. The same way I can tell you that after reviewing hundreds of cases, UAG is at the top, or after reviewing a ton of external battery packs - nothing beats Anker. But I do have a problem with crowdfunding projects. It was "cool" back in 2012 and maybe first half of 2013. A lot of them don't live up to their promises. I trust companies that been around for awhile and actually generate sales now, rather then with promises to deliver something in the future. To stay alive in such a competitive market, you gotta be doing something right. Don't have any bad wishes for Air Dock guys, but I have a good feeling they are not going to be around for too long after they will fulfill IGG orders.
One thing I do agree, there is no universal car mount or a gadget that works the same for everybody. YMMV, and this might not be for you. So, I'm glad we have a lot of different choices. Arkon MG2 works for me after testing, reviewing, and sharing on XDA about other car mounts. Something else works better for you, and I'm glad we can have a discussion about it The sticky surface mounts never took off, remember Clingo? It was sold "as seen on TV" type of deals. I have a phone case that doesn't have a flat surface and it will not stick well to it, and I would NEVER trust my $650 phone on a sticky pad going over bumps or NJ potholes or off-road

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Are you Armando who reviewed it in the video?
Regarding companies and how long they been around, I didn't mean it in a way that it justifies the quality, although I can speak from a hand's on experience since I tested and compared a lot of car mounts where Arkon quality is at the top. The same way I can tell you that after reviewing hundreds of cases, UAG is at the top, or after reviewing a ton of external battery packs - nothing beats Anker. But I do have a problem with crowdfunding projects. It was "cool" back in 2012 and maybe first half of 2013. A lot of them don't live up to their promises. I trust companies that been around for awhile and actually generate sales now, rather then with promises to deliver something in the future. To stay alive in such a competitive market, you gotta be doing something right. Don't have any bad wishes for Air Dock guys, but I have a good feeling they are not going to be around for too long after they will fulfill IGG orders.
One thing I do agree, there is no universal car mount or a gadget that works the same for everybody. YMMV, and this might not be for you. So, I'm glad we have a lot of different choices. Arkon MG2 works for me after testing, reviewing, and sharing on XDA about other car mounts. Something else works better for you, and I'm glad we can have a discussion about it The sticky surface mounts never took off, remember Clingo? It was sold "as seen on TV" type of deals. I have a phone case that doesn't have a flat surface and it will not stick well to it, and I would NEVER trust my $650 phone on a sticky pad going over bumps or NJ potholes or off-road
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No, I am not Armando.
Arkon didn't impress me. A car mount has to have a lot more to impress me. A car mount that just holds a phone is not enough for today's expectations.
Airdock looks great but I agree with you when it comes to crowdfunding projects. It has to be more tested with different smartphones.
Another company that I like is ProClip. I would get a car mount like this for my Note 3. (Charging cable permanently attached to holder
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http://www.proclipusa.com/phone-hol...ighter-plug-512564-19506.cmsv?p_leftorright=0

How steady is the mount? I ordered this one to use my S4 in as a dashcam/media player. The thing bounces around a lot, so the video looks like it was shot by someone with Parkinsons.

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How steady is the mount? I ordered this one to use my S4 in as a dashcam/media player. The thing bounces around a lot, so the video looks like it was shot by someone with Parkinsons.
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It's relatively steady as long as you tighten the mounting arm screw securely and don't have your smartphone with Zerolemon triple-capacity extended battery for additional weight, but you gotta keep in mind that your car vibration will transfer to the phone/camera. Perhaps S5 has a better camera, gotta check to see if it has anti-shake feature or something like that. With dashcam, doesn't matter which commercial car mount you use, you probably going to end up with "GoPro" effect lol!!! I wonder if they make some dash mount shock absorption beanie bags bases.

I was just asked in PM where MG279 can be purchased outside of US, since I only provided Amazon US link. Just did some digging and found it here: http://www.buybits.com/Product/1913...ash-Desk-Mount-For-Smartphones-sku-19132.aspx

Check it out, Arkon guys liked my review of MG2 + S5 so much, they linked to it in their latest YT video for MG2:
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How well Arkon grip the phone when it's in portrait (not sideways) mode? Would you trust it to hold your phone in a 4x4 going over sweet jumps? Or do you think the phone will eventually wiggle its way loose from the mount/clamp?
Pretty sure those microsuction cups won't hold a phone over any sweet jumps.

If you have a CD slot, this one is great.
http://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Universal-Smartphone-Slot-Mount/dp/B00D4ABOZS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1400540931&sr=8-4&keywords=car+mount+cd+slot

Was looking for a decent car mount and purchased this one through Amazon based off of vectron's review. One of the best suction cup mounts I've ever used. The thing just STICKS. Works great. Holds the phone very well in either portrait or landscape mode. Excellent recommendation good sir!

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Do those interfere with the cd player at all? I know with mine, the cd player tries to "eat" anything that you put in it...but I dont know how far into the slot that sensor is.
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Not at all.This has worked perfectly for me.

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If you have a CD slot, this one is great.
http://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Unive...=1400540931&sr=8-4&keywords=car+mount+cd+slot
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I am selling mine as it covers my only clock in the truck. Other than that I really like it. $12 bucks if ya want it. I'm going to try this one as the review is awesome.
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I've been looking for one that has a built in charger for my S5, but I haven't been too happy with the ones that I have found. I wouldn't mind the outrageous price range of that proclip one Acaibowl suggested if it took advantage of the USB 3.0 capabilities of the S5, but it doesn't. The other ones I've found either don't have the USB 3.0 capabilities that I'm looking for or they all have bad reviews. Do you know of any that are worthwhile and have USB 3.0?
Edit: I also use an Otterbox case, I'm sure you know how big those get... If you know of one that matches what I'm looking for AND can accommodate an Otterbox, that would be an amazing bonus.
Thanks in advance.

What about Ram Mounts in comparison?

Stylus for Pixel C

Hello lovely people of XDA im currently waiting my "Developer edition" pixel c , and very excited for it.
i intended to use it for taking notes at the university, so would you kindly answer my questions?
about stylus :
1. Any stylus suggestion, im eyeing adonit jot pro 2.0
2. As there an app where i can writes on pdf , with special window (zoomed view) so that i can write comfortably
3. Can i use nvidia game stream from my PC
4. Does screen protector really necessary.
general question :
5. can you guys suggest a good smartcover?
6. is the wifi problem really prominent ? i have a quite good ac router in my apartement.
7. is there any general gripe with this tablet ? besides being heavier than usual.
thank you ! :angel:#
can you guys give an opinion on this ?
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does part of the picture look yellow-ish to you ? if yes where ? is that just my feeling ?

1. I am looking for a stylus myself and I will probably wait for Samsung's new Bluetooth Stylus (C-Pen) or get the adonit Jot Dash.
2. I can recommend INKredible, it even has software-based palm rejection build in.
3. You have to use Moonlight for that, the performance should be quite good. You need to install the root version for full mice support though.
4. I never used screen protectors for my tablets (N10, N9 and now Pixel C), but I am really careful with them, so depending on how you are going to use it it might be a good idea. I have also heard reports that the keyboard might scratch the screen a bit, but nothing specific.
5. Don't know, I'm looking for one myself
6. As far as I read these problems only occure if you have a poor WiFi connection or a WiFi with multiple access points, like eduroam in a university. If you don't have any extenders in your home and a strong wifi everywhere there souldn't be any issues.
7. AFAIK: Some stuff is missing (torchlight, NFC, GPS, 3G/LTE, expandable storage ...), the speakers are not that good and the firmware is fairly locked down (see other post here on XDA), other than that it's pure awesome.

Niggo372 said:
1. I am looking for a stylus myself and I will probably wait for Samsung's new Bluetooth Stylus (C-Pen) or get the adonit Jot Dash.
2. I can recommend INKredible, it even has software-based palm rejection build in.
3. You have to use Moonlight for that, the performance should be quite good. You need to install the root version for full mice support though.
4. I never used screen protectors for my tablets (N10, N9 and now Pixel C), but I am really careful with them, so depending on how you are going to use it it might be a good idea. I have also heard reports that the keyboard might scratch the screen a bit, but nothing specific.
5. Don't know, I'm looking for one myself
6. As far as I read these problems only occure if you have a poor WiFi connection or a WiFi with multiple access points, like eduroam in a university. If you don't have any extenders in your home and a strong wifi everywhere there souldn't be any issues.
7. AFAIK: Some stuff is missing (torchlight, NFC, GPS, 3G/LTE, expandable storage ...), the speakers are not that good and the firmware is fairly locked down (see other post here on XDA), other than that it's pure awesome.
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Thank you for the answer.
Yea I've heard that android n will support an active Bluetooth stylus ,can't wait for that.
I'll be using my pixel c mostly just for surfing the web and reading PDF anyways

Hey all,
I have the Jot Dash and it's brilliant, can't fault it at all.
I use it with a tempered glass screen protector and it hasn't caused any damage to it, but I think I'd keep it on there to be safe.
I don't know of any apps for annotating PDFs unfortunately, I just use it to take notes (and play Draw Something lol).

Interesting insights.
I was thinking to buy the dash , but for a passive stylus it's a bit steep . . . it's almost 50€ on Amazon :crying:
I might buy it eventually but. . . . I sure hope for a decent alternative

parental92 said:
1. Any stylus suggestion, im eyeing adonit jot pro 2.0
2. As there an app where i can writes on pdf , with special window (zoomed view) so that i can write comfortably
3. Can i use nvidia game stream from my PC
4. Does screen protector really necessary.
5. can you guys suggest a good smartcover?
6. is the wifi problem really prominent ? i have a quite good ac router in my apartement.
7. is there any general gripe with this tablet ? besides being heavier than usual.
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1. Go with the Adonit Jot Dash. Best active stylus for devices without a digitizer imo.
2. I am looking for something like that myself.
3. Don't know
4. I use my Pixel C without any screen protector. I don't think it is necessary (just my personal opinion).
5. There are very few options when it comes to cases/covers. I have the Noreve leather case, which is very nice and premium but also very expensive.
6. Never had any problems with my Pixel C in any wifi network. I really cannot understand what people are complaining about, but maybe not all devices are effected??
7. The tablet is by far the fastest and most premium Android tablet I have ever held in my hands! I absolutely LOVE it. Really battery life and performance are through the roof (I am coming from a Nexus 9). If I had to find downsides, I would say it is a bit pricey and is lacking a microSD card slot.

Sam-X- said:
1. Go with the Adonit Jot Dash. Best active stylus for devices without a digitizer imo.
2. I am looking for something like that myself.
3. Don't know
4. I use my Pixel C without any screen protector. I don't think it is necessary (just my personal opinion).
5. There are very few options when it comes to cases/covers. I have the Noreve leather case, which is very nice and premium but also very expensive.
6. Never had any problems with my Pixel C in any wifi network. I really cannot understand what people are complaining about, but maybe not all devices are effected??
7. The tablet is by far the fastest and most premium Android tablet I have ever held in my hands! I absolutely LOVE it. Really battery life and performance are through the roof (I am coming from a Nexus 9). If I had to find downsides, I would say it is a bit pricey and is lacking a microSD card slot.
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Thanks for the suggestions , hmm may I ask you to take photo of your pixel c (displaying white picture ) ? I have a bad feeling that mine got yellow tint where the nav button are

How is the drawing lag with the Jot Dash?

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How is the drawing lag with the Jot Dash?
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I´m using Squid with the jot dash- for handwriting notes a really great app with marginal / barely noticeable drawing lags. If you prefer to use it for paintings I think it´s depending from the app.

redukt said:
I´m using Squid with the jot dash- for handwriting notes a really great app with marginal / barely noticeable drawing lags. If you prefer to use it for paintings I think it´s depending from the app.
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do you pay for the subscription service?

parental92 said:
do you pay for the subscription service?
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Yeppppp, but the free version is good to

I'm guessing that the best note taking software and sketch software has software palm rejection in it??

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Yeppppp, but the free version is good to
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but the free one (like all others) wont be able to open PDF files
for now i got 2 candidate for sketching software:
-INKcredible
nice UI
software based palm rejection
(bad) palm rejection can be a bit wonky
(bad) add on everywhere
-Quid
also nice UI
really good on samsungs tablet (friend of mine use it)
(bad) subscription service
ill consider both of them , danke dir
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yea but software based palm rejection wont be as good as hardware one. thy INKredible.

parental92 said:
but the free one (like all others) wont be able to open PDF files
-Quid
also nice UI
really good on samsungs tablet (friend of mine use it)
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ill consider both of them , danke dir
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Well to edit PDFs you´ll have to spend some bucks (in a year abo round about 60 cent / month). And you´re right - on my Samsung devices it´s my first choice - but I feel no noticeably differences.
The combination Jot Dash / Squid is personally my solution for take some notes in conferences and team meetings. ,*gerne

You folks should write to the Bluebeam people and ask them to bring Revu to Android. They had a survey a while back to gauge interest. They like to blame Android fragmentation, which we all know is nonsense. I use the desktop version and it's really the best PDF editing software out right now.

I actually had problems with the Jot Dash skipping when used with a IntelliGlass HD tempered glass screen protector on my Pixel C. It was especially prevalent when writing in small print letters, especially if I wrote fast. The lower case e was rarely written correctly unless I went really slow. My guess is it was taking too long to recognize the initial start of my writing. If I wrote script and had a short pause at the start it worked better. I only tried OneNote though before returning the Jot Dash. I got a Jot Pro instead and that worked okay. The clacking on the glass was pretty annoying and the joint that the disc was attached to was pretty stiff which meant I had to press down a little harder to get it flat with the screen if I lifted the stylus to a slightly different position. This made it annoying when just navigating different apps so I returned it too. I finally settled on a Just Mobile AluPen since it was much cheaper than both. It works well, but I might eventually buy another Jot Dash since the tech is just so damn cool and people hear seem to be having good success with it. Maybe I just got a dud or didn't give myself enough time to get used to it.

Outrager said:
I actually had problems with the Jot Dash skipping when used with a IntelliGlass HD tempered glass screen protector on my Pixel C. It was especially prevalent when writing in small print letters, especially if I wrote fast. The lower case e was rarely written correctly unless I went really slow. My guess is it was taking too long to recognize the initial start of my writing. If I wrote script and had a short pause at the start it worked better. I only tried OneNote though before returning the Jot Dash. I got a Jot Pro instead and that worked okay. The clacking on the glass was pretty annoying and the joint that the disc was attached to was pretty stiff which meant I had to press down a little harder to get it flat with the screen if I lifted the stylus to a slightly different position. This made it annoying when just navigating different apps so I returned it too. I finally settled on a Just Mobile AluPen since it was much cheaper than both. It works well, but I might eventually buy another Jot Dash since the tech is just so damn cool and people hear seem to be having good success with it. Maybe I just got a dud or didn't give myself enough time to get used to it.
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i just ordered jot dash, we will see if tha thing a good.
im using no screen protector at all, hopefully it wont scratch the screen.:silly:
rivera618 said:
You folks should write to the Bluebeam people and ask them to bring Revu to Android. They had a survey a while back to gauge interest. They like to blame Android fragmentation, which we all know is nonsense. I use the desktop version and it's really the best PDF editing software out right now.
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imm Revu ? im not familiar with that program.
im currently waiting for my jot dash , and gonna try a couple of program, will post here for results.

I use the desktop version for work and it's extremely powerful. The iOS app is $10 but it is well worth it.

For those using the jot dash..can it be used as pointer on the pixel c?

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For those using the jot dash..can it be used as pointer on the pixel c?
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What do you mean by pointer?
Basically it can be used in any app on every screen, just like your finger.
Taking notes however is nowhere near as good as on a Surface Pro 4 or iPad Pro.

Accessories Samsung Official Standing Cover with Pen.....another stupid idea

So just like the goofy case they gave away with the Fold 3, the new one is just as janky. You have to remove the entire S-pen module to drop it onto a Qi charger. The front part is taped on, and its not very sticky. It's awful.

Not got mine yet, do have the "hand strap" one though, and that has some issues too. Wireless works but kinda have to make sure it's positioned just right on some chargers.
That and most people are right handed so the strap thing is on the dominant hand side.. Not the best idea. But hey its difficult with the way the phone is designed as a whole. My front one on this has stuck on pretty well though to be fair, and unlike the 3rd party ones the edges are at least a sensible size

Mine wasn't so sticky the first few days. Then it just got okay. Still gonna buy some electronic double-sided tape to replace the factory adhesives. I heard it does miracles

I like the case but gonna get a rugged case tho

It's perfectly fine, for what it is. Much better than the pen case for the Fold3. Your comparison between the two makes it seem like you don't actually have experience with the one for the Fold3. I actually hate the cases that use sticky adhesive for the cover section. The use of tacky/rubber-like material instead, like this new case (and others, like the YTF cases and the Latercase case), is MUCH better, as it makes it easy to swap cases without having to reapply adhesives. My case stays put without a problem.
That being said, the official Samsung Pen case with the kickstand attachment is way too bulky to use as a daily for my tastes. I'm sticking with the Latercase for daily use and will only be using the Samsung Standing Cover S Pen case when I need additional protection or when I know I'll be going somewhere where I'll need to have the pen with me but can't easily carry it in my pocket.

It's OK and it was "free" so there's that.
What was not OK was last year's case with the flap cover. I've never liked those.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Very interesting... I've used mine from day one and have not had an issue with QI charging with the S Pen attached. I was astonished that it actually charged with the S Pen in place on the case. Just to be clear, I'm using the Samsung QI charger at home and at work and the Samsung vent mounted car charger. I have not tried any 3rd party QI chargers, so I cannot comment about them.

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Very interesting... I've used mine from day one and have not had an issue with QI charging with the S Pen attached. I was astonished that it actually charged with the S Pen in place on the case. Just to be clear, I'm using the Samsung QI charger at home and at work and the Samsung vent mounted car charger. I have not tried any 3rd party QI chargers, so I cannot comment about them.
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While I can charge on a 3rd party Qi chargers (both in the office, home and car) I found that the 10W ones charge OK (though slow) with the pen attached. The magnetic field isn't optimized as the two inductors (charger and phone) are not at the same angle. The 15W one I have in the car works OK as well, however the pen and the back of the phone are certainly hotter than I want it to be. I remove the pen and then it isn't hotter than I would expect it to be.. Waiting on a new 15W charger to the office, so I will see if with the pen the phone gets hot as in the car or not.. So yes, it charges, and still I think it makes sense to click out the pen for wireless charging (just common sense). As for the 'opinions' and if it is the best case? It is ugly yet functional. I use the pen a lot of times away from my desk, handwriting on the 7.6" screen.. It also better having a wide diameter pen. I have the narrow one in my Samsung laptop and it is hard to use for long time..

I'm not finding my desktop chargers making the phone hot, maybe a little warm, but not hot. The car mount, however, does get pretty warm, probably due to the usage (3 apps running in multi window mode, along with 3 floating widgets). But there is positive charging going on, in the car charger.

Oatswesow said:
I'm not finding my desktop chargers making the phone hot, maybe a little warm, but not hot. The car mount, however, does get pretty warm, probably due to the usage (3 apps running in multi window mode, along with 3 floating widgets). But there is positive charging going on, in the car charger.
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Good point. yes, the home chargers are colder than the car one, that also runs Android Auto/maps/Spotify while I drive..

I'm not able to claim my case and charger, they want pdf of proof of purchase. Samsung never sent me an invoice via email. And my Fold 4 doesn't show up on the Samsung website under my account. I purchased the phone on their stupid site. F this, looks like the case is not worth the time takes to claim. Also the pen is not active like the old Note right?

Bigmille said:
I'm not able to claim my case and charger, they want pdf of proof of purchase. Samsung never sent me an invoice via email. And my Fold 4 doesn't show up on the Samsung website under my account. I purchased the phone on their stupid site. F this, looks like the case is not worth the time takes to claim. Also the pen is not active like the old Note right?
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I just took a picture of my delivery note.

alltaken123 said:
I just took a picture of my delivery note.
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Done that, but it's not enough it seems. I already have the stape case, so have no need for the pen case.

Bigmille said:
Done that, but it's not enough it seems. I already have the stape case, so have no need for the pen case.
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Maybe give them a call? Mine's just shipped with only a picture of the delivery note.

Thanks for the idea, I really can't be bothered to waste more time, the whole website buying experience was terrible with exchange, had to ask help here to complete the purchase. Its just unbelievable giving the size of Samsung.
I have no idea why Samsung just don't throw in the case, pen and charger in the welcome box, it was big and empty enough.

You can get the invoice from your order under My Orders
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Bigmille said:
I'm not able to claim my case and charger, they want pdf of proof of purchase. Samsung never sent me an invoice via email. And my Fold 4 doesn't show up on the Samsung website under my account. I purchased the phone on their stupid site. F this, looks like the case is not worth the time takes to claim. Also the pen is not active like the old Note right?
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Wow. I didn't have any of those issues. The whole website experience was super easy. But I've been buying direct from Samsung for years so maybe I'm just used to it.
Also, my freebies were all included in the same box as my phone. Only thing I didn't get was the free charging pad work my GW5Pro, but I also bought Buds 2 Pro, and it bundled those and gave me a really good discount, which I think automatically removed the charger.

The case is excellent IMO. No issues with it. No issues with qi charging. Also with a plastic printer you can make your own attachment instead of the kickstand or pen. Lots of ideas here.

The Samsung kick stand/pen case is pretty good and have not had issues with charging wirelessly with the pen in place. Two issues though that I didn't like, is the pen makes the case even thicker and there is no hinge protection. I tried adding a clear film protection, but as many others have also found the clearance between the hinge and the screen backings is tight and on my phone, top near the camera lens area by hinge, after putting the film on, it jammed when I tried to open/unfold it, so I had to peel it off.
Went with the Spigen Slim Armor Pro Pen Edition case, and very happy with it. It has the hinge protection, is thin, holds the pen on the side, and the case has a great feel for gripping - more rubbery than plastic. Added a pop socket with removeable top and an ESR Boost Phone Kickstand which works both with it folded vertical or horizontal and also unfolded, so now I have all the features in the case/phone. I use the pop socket with a magnetic car mount and remove the pop socket, when I need to wirelessly charge it at home.
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Thanks for this. Just bought one