http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwleOote5M0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I enjoyed it. Lol!
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Try working for a cellphone company. I made an old lady cry because she came in screaming at us saying to give her a new phone or cancel her account because it won't ring. Her HTC Hero had all of her contacts set to "Send to voicemail". Once I politely explained there's nothing wrong with her phone or her service, she started crying and said she's disappointed in me because I took away her reason to be pissed and now she doesn't know what to complain about.
Some people truly do not deserve smartphones, and it's a sad fact that companies are now pushing so hard to place expensive and intricate technology in the hands of users who were among those that couldn't even set the clock on their VCR.
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More to the point, it's a sad world when people can openly admit that they are upset at having no reason to complain, without recognizing the problem with that admission...
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I definitely agree with you guys.
That video was hilarious! That should be required viewing when creating an account.
this made me feel sad about still not knowing how to use adb
or even trying to learn how to use it
but that was a pretty accurate depiction of a noob
3 people brought me their phones to root and told me what their phones were
2 of them told me the wrong model
I love when I'm on Google+ and someone goes on a community and asks what the best ROM is without saying what phone they have and or carrier, then people start naming ROMs. I'm like wth is wrong with you people. Or someone might say I'm on the Sprint S3 and others will just start naming ROMs for other carriers like its perfectly fine to just flash a ROM no matter what model of phone you have. I hope this video ends up helping new people instead of just making fun of, and pissing someone off. I was new once as everyone is or was. But I felt like I read until I mostly understood what I was doing and why. I've seen a lot of bricks lately and if I can prevent one, this would be worth it. Lol. By the way I found this video it is not of my making just so everyone knows.
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Yea, I've been flashing my phones since 2009 with the Motorola cliq, I never bricked anything because I read, read, and read before doing anything.
Yes, I read for a month before rooting my Epic 4G and STILL was sweating through the process...how these people can just grab a phone, root and flash a ROM not for their device is beyond me.
I did the same with my evo shift, and then again with this phone - read, searched and then read some more. I've never had a serious problem. There's a wealth of information here and I'm grateful for everyone that lends their time to develop and/or help us get more out of our phones.
I remember just rooting my device. Reading everywhere and making sure the stories coincided. Triple checked my model number etc, this is not a $40 device...
I'm surprised he didn't mention RTFM in there somewhere, it's a code I [try my best to] live by and support.
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Ohh by the way... RTFM
Ok, I'll ask.... What is RTFM?
Read the f ing manual.
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RTFM - read the f'ing manual. Of course, I don't always, but I try.
Ahhh! Same here.
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Yes, I read for a month before rooting my Epic 4G and STILL was sweating through the process...how these people can just grab a phone, root and flash a ROM not for their device is beyond me.
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Like the noob in the video says, lots of people just tell noobs that it's easy to root and flash ROMs. Most of the time, it's implied that the process is easy providing that the noob reads and learns on his/her own. Unfortunately, inference isn't universal, and a lot of noobs think "it's easy" means that it doesn't matter what they flash, it's all the same.
As a former comp. sci. major, I had enough experience with computers to know that it wouldn't work that way, so I read as much as I could until I could practically flash ROMs in my sleep before even risked I messing something up. Most people aren't tech heads or comp. sci. majors, and all phones seem the same to people who don't understand phones. If they were really different in the noob's perspective, he/she would remember whether they have the LG Optimus or the Keyocera Echo. If someone doesn't realize that there's a huge difference between an HTC One vs. the Samsung Note 2, why does it matter to them which forum the ROM is from? I mean, "it's so easy!" Why not flash the first ROM they find?
Sorry for the rant. I'm someone who tells his friends that rooting and flashing ROMs is easy, but only if they're willing to read and learn on their own before jumping in, and I warn them that they could destroy their phones if they're not careful. I then reiterate that flashing is easy once you learn enough not to brick your phone and offer to help them find all the info they need. Most just decide it's not worth the risk, and they settle for the stock experience. That's how it should be. If you don't want to spend the time learning it, then don't spend the time doing it.
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Yes, I read for a month before rooting my Epic 4G and STILL was sweating through the process...how these people can just grab a phone, root and flash a ROM not for their device is beyond me.
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I read for about a month for my GS3. First I rooted, the unrooted/triangleaway'd and odin'd back to stock to make sure I knew what I was doing. Then I took another 2 weeks to read up on ROMs, and then I finally flashed one. The ONLY times I've bricked my phone are more or less on purpose, just because I like tinkering, and I always fixed it myself. I don't even know how people can just start flashing either I was so tedious about it, still am.
My parents got smartphones before I did and their phones are on GB still, they don't even know that android versions go higher than GB (or what GB is) they think their phones are the bees knees just because they're android lol, it's just as well though because they never tried rooting them.
Edit: I'd also like to add that I was extremely paranoid about backing up my phone the first time I flashed my first ROM. I used TIBU to back up onto my external SD, then I copied that folder to my computer and also uploaded it to dropbox and google drive, and then I made a nandroid of my stock phone which I still keep on my PC just in case.
"Flashing a phone is not the same as using a toaster."
Words to live by.
I was on my g2x for almost a year and then I had to wait 2 months before I got my s3 after release, but in those two months I kept checking every s3 thread on the root process to see if it was like the g2x method which it wasn't. People who just get a phone and think they automatically turn into a phone expert cuz they got a good phone is just plain retarded. Moral of the story read before you post/ask questions
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This is not getting as many hits as it needs. It should be a video all new members are forced to watch. Those of us new to flashing can learn something and those of us who know what we are doing because we RTFM can have a nice laugh.
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OMFG I laughed so hard. This is a depiction of a common day at XDA. Sad but true.
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Soo.... I have had android phones for about year. Now I have the epic and I love it a lot.., but I'm hearing about rooting and ROM'S and all this other stuff... What is it? And by doing these things will I damage my device.? I need to be clued in big time.
well before you get dinged for posting this let me try and give a link that may shed some light
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700
Well... that guide on what everything was helped a little bit but it was all kinda confusing seeing as I'm new to the terms and whatnot. It basically sounds dangerous though and if I accidentally "brick" my phone I am going to die what are the positives of rooting my phone? And also, why would I get dinged fo posting this???
Cuz is posted 1000 times and u need to do your homework and start reading starting with 1click root is your best bet. And don't be afraid this phone is almost impossible to brick like I said almost and good luck.
dito33
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And also, why would I get dinged fo posting this???
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Because technically this is supposed to be a developers board. They want you to learn the basics elsewhere and come here to develop new software.
And also we have people asking "what are root and roms" pretty much every other day. And then new people come and don't bother to read the threads that already answer their questions or use the search to find answers. Instead, they expect someone to start giving them the answers from scratch all over again.
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if I accidentally "brick" my phone I am going to die
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If you can't afford to be without your phone for a day or can't afford to replace the phone if it becomes damaged, then do NOT mess with it.
Most circumstances all this is harmless/recoverable, but if the phone is a necessity (or not yours, ie parents), I wouldn't mess with it.
The only thing more annoying that seeing 50 post threads consisting of 48 people commenting on "wrong section" is threads from people that just messed up their parents phone and -now- it's an emergency.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798067
That should cover pretty much everything you need to know to get started and research stuff on your own.
Ummm thanks to everyone? I appreciate the advice and I'll try to figure this out. I'm just a newbie here (obviously) and I didn't know the ropes about how to find out "basic" info... Thanks for the links that were posted as well. Also, for the person who said something about this being my parents phone...? This is my phone.... and I paid a lot to get it and I don't want to damage it
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Ohh... and also I just believe I'm going to leave my phone as it is... I don't see the positive benefits of rooting it. Plus I don't want to damage anything
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That's probably a good idea. You shouldn't make any major changes to your phone if you don't understand what you are changing.
Oh yeah, no benefits whatsoever
WHY SHOULD I ROOT MY PHONE?
Rooting offers several great things including, but certainly not limited to, access to hidden features, total customization, better battery life, and overclocking. It gives you control over the device that you paid money for in the first place. The devs here are great at finding features that the manufacturers left out or disabled and making them work.
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Oh yeah, no benefits whatsoever
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Lol... that sounds cool and whatnot but in the end, I just not that technologically wise.. but I do appreciate the people who are if I knew as much as them, i'd probably try the whole rooting thing
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Hi there everyone, my name is Alex and I just got my first smartphone ever, an Samsung Galaxy S2 and I would be grateful if someone could help take it to another level. Root, optimize, enchance it's "power", so on and so forth. I will really appreciate all of your help. I just heard of you guys from a friend, and believe me when I say "I AM NOOB!!" I don't know anything about rooting/ unlocking/ jailbreak/ etc.
Please leave me a message.
With deep sympathy and respect,
Alex.
what version of the GS2 do you have?
there are different forums for some different variants here on XDA. Once you identify which version you have, you can go to that forum and sniff around. read as much as you can, and you'll figure everything out pretty easily
You should start by finding and posting at the CORRECT section. I'm very sure that all sections have their own guide on rooting and flashing.
Devices are kinda like cars... if it is your first.. spend some time exploring what it can do already before you get into making it do more. Then, when you know your way around a bit... dig in!
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Devices are kinda like cars... if it is your first.. spend some time exploring what it can do already before you get into making it do more. Then, when you know your way around a bit... dig in!
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Very well said my friend
If this is your very first Android phone (nice choice by the way!), you'll want to spend at least some time familiarising yourself with Android and its workings before plunging into anything here. Some of the stuff available here for the GS2 is incredible, but it can also land you in a lot of hot water if you don't understand what you are doing before you try things.
Take your time and enjoy it 'stock' for a while. Learn what rooting is/does, pick a couple of 'favourite' custom ROMs, and read through their threads (entirely) before doing anything. This will give you a good awareness of what to expect as far as bugs and hiccups are concerned, and how others have got around them or fixed them.
This is a fantastic community, full of fantastic Development. Make sure you stick to the rules, post in the right places, and if in doubt... read!
Enjoy, and welcome to XDA
Why's everyone rude here? Developers of ROMs don't spend hours of hard work just to be dissed. Yo. They do it because its something they mildly enjoy/want to do and wanna contribute. Being rude makes them want to not do this for us. You all can feel free to learn C, Java, C++ and the Linux command line and make us a flawless build. Although most of us aren't really capable of this. Myself included. So next time you wanna complain because something doesn't work, remember, they have lives too. Bug reports are fine, just be respectful! You all watched the noob video, right?
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There's a noob video? Missed that one, gonna go watch it lol :thumbup:
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What I really love is when someone fubars their device because they don't even belong trying to modify them and then they get upset noone can help because their lack of reading directions/warnings has left them with a brick.
This site should be pay-for-use for non devs, that would eliminate a major amount of 1 time posters and all trolls.
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This site should be pay-for-use for non devs, that would eliminate a major amount of 1 time posters and all trolls.
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Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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I did love it, but not anymore, its been driven out of me by countless insults and utter stupidity that seems to occur constantly. I know its your opinion "some" are to sensitive, but its a personal work I'm sharing, having someone pm me that its an utter waste of time to flash because its a broken pile of....etc is a very personal insult and I see no reason to continue when I get responses like that for my time and effort.
Also, I'm not required to share anything I do, hell I can go pay per build if I feel like it. I did this because people wanted it, and I could provide it, that's all.
Its not making me stop doing something I love, it made me stop loving what I do.
I'm not sure if you dev or not, but really, until you deal with it yourself, you don't really understand where we come from. Some say go f yourselves, others just vanish, and then there's some like me that despite being burned out keep trying make the community happy (and mostly succeeding) and just get to a point where its not worth the insults anymore.
Also I'm sure there are a lot more devs that have been doing this longer then a few months and are maybe used to it.
I don't even own an a100 so its not like I just happened to have made something and shared it, I built it just for the community, I'll never run it myself.
Call it pathetic if you wish, but in my opinion you dunno what you're talking about.
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I did love it, but not anymore, its been driven out of me by countless insults and utter stupidity that seems to occur constantly. I know its your opinion "some" are to sensitive, but its a personal work I'm sharing, having someone pm me that its an utter waste of time to flash because its a broken pile of....etc is a very personal insult and I see no reason to continue when I get responses like that for my time and effort.
Also, I'm not required to share anything I do, hell I can go pay per build if I feel like it. I did this because people wanted it, and I could provide it, that's all.
Its not making me stop doing something I love, it made me stop loving what I do.
I'm not sure if you dev or not, but really, until you deal with it yourself, you don't really understand where we come from. Some say go f yourselves, others just vanish, and then there's some like me that despite being burned out keep trying make the community happy (and mostly succeeding) and just get to a point where its not worth the insults anymore.
Also I'm sure there are a lot more devs that have been doing this longer then a few months and are maybe used to it.
I don't even own an a100 so its not like I just happened to have made something and shared it, I built it just for the community, I'll never run it myself.
Call it pathetic if you wish, but in my opinion you dunno what you're talking about.
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I go through this almost every day actually. Maybe not making ROMs or developing programs for phones, but I have unruly people who comment and criticize my work all day long. It all goes in one ear and out the other because I know that some people are just like that and aren't thankful. I also know that I am good at what I do and that over the past few years I have pleased A LOT more people than I've disgruntled. I guess it has a lot to do with how different people cope with different things. With me, logic trumps emotion and it's very hard for me to take someone saying " your work sucks and you're a [email protected]" seriously lol. If someone pmed me and said my ROM is "an utter waste of time to flash and its broken," guess what? There's a delete button or I would just ignore it. There's going to be people like this no matter what field of work you're in.
I may not be a dev, but I do know how you feel. Alas, I'd like to say that I personally appreciate and respect you and every other dev here. They do great work for free most of the time and I honestly have no place to complain and neither do these other people. However, they shouldn't be discouraged and want to quit. Whatever happened to the "sticks and stones" rule?
Pay per build? That sounds great and I don't know why no one is doing this. If I were a dev I'd be all over making money for my hard work. Hell, I'd pay for a good ROM. It's totally worth it. But then again, it would be hard to regulate because there would need to be refunds given and stuff like that if people aren't happy lol you just never win as a dev, do you?
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I go through this almost every day actually. Maybe not making ROMs or developing programs for phones, but I have unruly people who comment and criticize my work all day long. It all goes in one ear and out the other because I know that some people are just like that and aren't thankful. I also know that I am good at what I do and that over the past few years I have pleased A LOT more people than I've disgruntled. I guess it has a lot to do with how different people cope with different things. With me, logic trumps emotion and it's very hard for me to take someone saying " your work sucks and you're a [email protected]" seriously lol. If someone pmed me and said my ROM is "an utter waste of time to flash and its broken," guess what? There's a delete button or I would just ignore it. There's going to be people like this no matter what field of work you're in.
I may not be a dev, but I do know how you feel. Alas, I'd like to say that I personally appreciate and respect you and every other dev here. They do great work for free most of the time and I honestly have no place to complain and neither do these other people. However, they shouldn't be discouraged and want to quit. Whatever happened to the "sticks and stones" rule?
Pay per build? That sounds great and I don't know why no one is doing this. If I were a dev I'd be all over making money for my hard work. Hell, I'd pay for a good ROM. It's totally worth it. But then again, it would be hard to regulate because there would need to be refunds given and stuff like that if people aren't happy lol you just never win as a dev, do you?
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Yes sadly everyone does want something different from any ROM, one will never satisfy all.
Not to get personal but what do you do for work that would subject you to that kind of...feedback? And I just noticed haole lol. Not sure if its what I'm thinking, but I was born in Hawaii, I'm hapa.
Anyways as I said I take it all quite personally, especially now as it was basically a favor for someone who asked me to come back.
That said, on topic again, some people just don't understand the amount of work involved and how calling it trash (this is quite edited ofc) is almost the same a calling me the same thing. They also don't care about the time it takes and just expect it to be given to them, or demand features or additions without considering it may be past the dev's abilities or desire to even do it. It comes down to they think they're entitled to it, when and how they want it, but seen willing to learn to do it themselves.
Also the whole internet mentality of its a screen name, not a person. Insulting pio_masaki isn't the same as standing in front of me and saying the same thing. I disagree with this mentality and prefer to consider it a person, not a screen name. Strangely I'm perfectly fine ignoring some a hole insulting me in person, yet take it personally about a ROM lol.
And pay per build would be quite difficult to implement, especially because it would need tailored per user, the time wouldn't be worth the cost to me, or the cost wouldn't be worth it for the user, I mean figure $10 an hour to build a ROM to be worth my time. User wants a cm10, tablet ui, memory bar added. Takes me 6 hours to implement the changes, sync, build. Would you pay $60 for a ROM for an a100? Not likely. I don't mean you personally, but the average user. They'll just use B1 instead lol. Maybe if I came and installed it for you or something lol
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Felt my rant belonged here. And a note on it, this is not aimed at A100 users, but everywhere on XDA.
Civatio-Retired
Pio-Retired
Linuxsociety-Retired
Waydownsouth-MIA/Retired
These were the major players when it came to ROM development on the A100.
And the general public has annoyed/angered most of them to the point of retirement or quitting.
What is wrong with people today?
I used to love chatting on forums with random people with common interests. Than I came to XDA. I'm not talking to anyone specific here OK, but in general, I've never met a mass gathering of people with common interest that act so hateful, childish, ungrateful, and reduce themselves to petty squabbles on a nearly hourly basis. And I am guilty of these acts of well. We all just need to step back in most situations and ask ourselves can I do this? or aren't I hear to learn and help?
I guess there's no point to my rant...
Looks like it's time to teach myself how to atleast update source.
I'm not talking about an expensive fee, ever $5 per year would be enough to keep the trolls away, Many years ago people said they'd never pay for torrent sites no look at the state of torrenting. Newsgroups are flourishing while free torrent sites are few and far between and their content is lackluster at best.
I would also be up for allowing devs to have ban powers in their own build threads. These guys do a service 99.9999% of us can't do, they do it for free and they get abuse for it. Keep your device stock if you can't act like an adult for one, and don't modify your device if you are unable to handle the real possibility of it going horribly wrong.
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Felt my rant belonged here. And a note on it, this is not aimed at A100 users, but everywhere on XDA.
Civatio-Retired
Pio-Retired
Linuxsociety-Retired
Waydownsouth-MIA/Retired
These were the major players when it came to ROM development on the A100.
And the general public has annoyed/angered most of them to the point of retirement or quitting.
What is wrong with people today?
I used to love chatting on forums with random people with common interests. Than I came to XDA. I'm not talking to anyone specific here OK, but in general, I've never met a mass gathering of people with common interest that act so hateful, childish, ungrateful, and reduce themselves to petty squabbles on a nearly hourly basis. And I am guilty of these acts of well. We all just need to step back in most situations and ask ourselves can I do this? or aren't I hear to learn and help?
I guess there's no point to my rant...
Looks like it's time to teach myself how to atleast update source.
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heh, people,EVERYWHERE are having issues...its like common descency and respect are things of the past..im a college adjunct proffesor and see some reall asshatery ...end of my rant...sorta..for those who do the hard work,much respect,..take what people say with a grain of salt..
haoleflip said:
Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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Depends on the individual...I completely agree with this. It's just been my personality since I was young (grew up in Brooklyn, NY...you NEED tough skin there). If I'm doing something and one or two don't like it, oh well, I know there's almost 1,000 (in this case a **** load of people!) who do! But oh well...everyone is different...I would find more satisfaction in the fact i'm contributing to the longevity of a device and others are using MY **** somewhere in this world and enjoying it.
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Depends on the individual...I completely agree with this. It's just been my personality since I was young (grew up in Brooklyn, NY...you NEED tough skin there). If I'm doing something and one or two don't like it, oh well, I know there's almost 1,000 (in this case a **** load of people!) who do! But oh well...everyone is different...I would find more satisfaction in the fact i'm contributing to the longevity of a device and others are using MY **** somewhere in this world and enjoying it.
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I've come across a random guy at a McDonald's using my ROM before lol
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I've come across a random guy at a McDonald's using my ROM before lol
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That's awesome! Must've been a great feeling....
I've never meant anyone with anything I've ever made
That is cool as hell though!
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I try to be kind as possible, I would imagine how all the negative insults would add up and get annoying after a while. I am pretty young and only know enough to use things you devs make and post on here and that's only because i follow directions.But I would like to learn all this stuff and become a dev. Its gotta be pretty cool knowing you make things that hundreds of people use daily
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I try to be kind as possible, I would imagine how all the negative insults would add up and get annoying after a while. I am pretty young and only know enough to use things you devs make and post on here and that's only because i follow directions.But I would like to learn all this stuff and become a dev. Its gotta be pretty cool knowing you make things that hundreds of people use daily
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Just over a hundred on the a100, just over a thousand on the thrive. My last cm10 is over 1020 downloads now. I should charge per download lol
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Just over a hundred on the a100, just over a thousand on the thrive. My last cm10 is over 1020 downloads now. I should charge per download lol
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If you charged per download not as much people would keep downloading every build you put out. I've used almost every single one of the builds you put out, the only other persons ROMs I have used is civato. And if you charged per download I know I wouldn't nearly use as much of your builds as I have. I would only download one of your builds every once in a while, and I don't even know how I would pay you since I don't even have a credit card or debit card or whatever you use to pay online. But if you could manage to keep the amount of downloads you have now while making people pay you would make a lot of money!
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If you charged per download not as much people would keep downloading every build you put out. I've used almost every single one of the builds you put out, the only other persons ROMs I have used is civato. And if you charged per download I know I wouldn't nearly use as much of your builds as I have. I would only download one of your builds every once in a while, and I don't even know how I would pay you since I don't even have a credit card or debit card or whatever you use to pay online. But if you could manage to keep the amount of downloads you have now while making people pay you would make a lot of money!
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I wouldn't actually do that lol
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I wouldn't actually do that lol
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I figured, I was just saying if you did
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Jaydizzle414 said:
I figured, I was just saying if you did
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Wonder if I can setup some kind get paid per download link or something. Probably wouldn't pay enough to be worth the hassle to people anyways.
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So many ROM threads exploding with people who flashed their way into a whole bunch of trouble, and don't know how to get out of it.
Hopefully these predicaments are the inspiration many need to learn basic ADB commands after installing the requisite programs/drivers on their cpu. The trouble could have been avoided in the first place by not blindly flashing without reading the well documented issues they may encounter.
1. Read the thread,
2. Read the stickies,
3. If you occasionally like getting into trouble, at least have the proper tools available to get out of it.
4. If not, use search button.
couldn't agree more. what the devs do has taken a lot of work to make stable(ish) for everyone but it can STILL screw your **** up. so people need to be careful.
http://www.galaxynexusforum.com/for...9-basic-commands-newcomers-adb.html#post28883
theres a link that was useful for me, hopefully useful for others. further reading material, is what i guess i can say about it.
^ Can't believe I posted one of "those" threads. Lame.
Edit: just tried to thank you, but I'm thanked out for the day apparently.
If they can't read the original thread, you expect them to read this one?
its a nice thought, but roots back to RTFM, those that should never do
CMNein said:
So many ROM threads exploding with people who flashed their way into a whole bunch of trouble, and don't know how to get out of it.
Hopefully these predicaments are the inspiration many need to learn basic ADB commands after installing the requisite programs/drivers on their cpu. The trouble could have been avoided in the first place by not blindly flashing without reading the well documented issues they may encounter.
1. Read the thread,
2. Read the stickies,
3. If you occasionally like getting into trouble, at least have the proper tools available to get out of it.
4. If not, use search button.
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I don't feel sorry for them. I'm a system admin at work and I have so many users who do similar things to their pcs and I usually make them suffer a bit
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akira02rex said:
I don't feel sorry for them. I'm a system admin at work and I have so many users who do similar things to their pcs and I usually make them suffer a bit
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Yeah, not even sure why I wasted time posting that. I'm the sucker. Was somewhat entertaining in a way to see the lemmings jump off the cliff though.
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Flashing has become so easy anyone can do it. That's a problem because once they run into a problem they don't know what to do.
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Well... From this, they will learn eventually, from to 0 to 1. So they know about the technology of their device rather than just using it. People need to learn...
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this is the reason why i always tell ppl not to spoon-feed noobs answers, cuz they wont learn anything and will only mess up their phones and then beg for help by creating useless threads or post in dev threads..on the other hand if ppl didnt answer their question they will be forced to read and learn thus no more useless threads/posts
After learning how to fix my own mistakes and not relying on a toolkit, I've begun to wonder, why they are even around for the Galaxy Nexus.
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Haha that's why I stopped helping people in Q+A. I used to help with the whole "Help I'm bricked" topics. Not anymore. My opinion is don't mess with root system files than CAN brick your phone if you don't know what you're doing or at least how to recover from it manually should a problem arise. Let em sweat it before they finally search and figure out ADB. Which they will. Their first instinct is to come and just ask for help. After an hour of 0 replies and the need to use their phone now, they will search and they will find what they need. Not that it matters because you have people here saying just use the toolkit to fix it. Almost every single thread in Q+A has at least one use a toolkit reply.
Idk to be honest I just stopped giving a damn about anyone but me lol. If I tried to help every single person boot looping I'll be on XDA 24/7. I got a nexus, I jumped the gun & used a toolkit. I boot looped. I searched and I figured out what I needed to do to get back up & running. As far as I'm concerned let them do the same. That's the way it is today. Everyone wants to be spoonfed. They only want the end result, but don't wanna work for it.
Apple - Innovating new ways to take your money
Well if they brick their own phone, because what they do to it. They will be learn their lesson,...
Once i brick my tab... Then i learn from that to understand the process... About ask for help in web? ... That's out of question.. The only one left is... You and you brick phone.. Since that,i always looking many source of knowledge before do something to my phone..
Anyway android is open source isn't it? If people want to learn.. Why not..? Or it's just change like corporate, monopoly only for certain people...
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Opens door to room filled with people who think they are much more intelligent than most, snickers and quietly closes door and walks away.
Uhm. I think this is just another proof of the tiny minded humanity. Doing stuff without knowing a single bit or without thinking about consequences. Just like war. Making it without having a single idea.
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Opens door to room filled with people who think they are much more intelligent than most, snickers and quietly closes door and walks away.
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I for one was thinking of instances where I knew what was in the OP :cyclops:
My Android knowledge is debatable and it goes without saying that my intelligence is highly debatable.
swimdude1120 said:
After learning how to fix my own mistakes and not relying on a toolkit, I've begun to wonder, why they are even around for the Galaxy Nexus.
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Hey, as the guy who started the linked thread in the second post here, I've used Wug's Toolkit to save me time before. Yes, I had the knowledge to get myself out of that jam if that didn't work, but I feel the toolkits aren't a bad thing by themselves.
fish1552 said:
Hey, as the guy who started the linked thread in the second post here, I've used Wug's Toolkit to save me time before. Yes, I had the knowledge to get myself out of that jam if that didn't work, but I feel the toolkits aren't a bad thing by themselves.
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I agree they're not bad at all. People just shouldn't be so fearful of, or think that learning, terminal commands is hard. Posts like the one that was linked are a great starting point, thanks for taking the time to author that post. They can pick up where the toolkits leave off when someone's in trouble.
It kinda frustrates me too. The only reason why I have a low post count is because I know how to search and I can get my self out of pretty much any sticky situation with experience/searching. I don't understand why people automatically blame the dev for something they didn't know what was going on in the first place. I have maybe a 1/10 of the issues everyone else posts because I do the proper steps before hand or I go into it knowing what is already broke. If it is an unstable ROM then why bother complaining, you should know that not everything is going to be perfect.
Same here on the posting count. I read about what I'm going to do, can't afford to brick and buy a new phone.
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I believe this is my first Post.....
Hope this is thread appropriate, if not, delete it or lock it or whatever.
I just wanted to give a huge thank you to this forum and all of XDA-developers forum for the vast amount of information here that helped my noob-ass save my phone.
I recently bought a used Samsung Galaxy SIII (AT&T) and was very curious on the world of Android. I've been on an iphone since the first one, and tried android a while back (Samsung Galaxy SkyRocket) - and wasn't thrilled. However, I wanted to give it another chance.
I learned the noob ways of rooting the phone, installing custom roms, using TWRP and a bunch of other goodies. However, my carelessness put me in a situation where i installed the rom kind of rom and ended up hard bricking my phone. Scared and afraid, not sure what to do, I tried to send it back to Samsung, but they were on my game already... lol - they wouldn't fix it and sent it right back.
I thought about paying for JTAG service to get it back to a state where I can use it; however I started to search XDA a bit more and found so many answers and discovered even more questions.
I learned how to use a debrick script on an SD card to get my phone back to power on, installed recovery stock / flash bootloader / kernels / reinstall binary, etc etc. Ultimately, I'm back to where i was at the beginning. Probably a little smarter about what I'm installing and flashing; but so happy that a place like this exists that saved me some $, and kicked me some knowledge.
It was a long journey filled with panic, frustration, and ultimately satisfaction and enjoyment.
Thank You XDA.
Nigo,
I agree with you about how helpful this forum with it's developers and contributors has been. I will stay on here and continue to benefit. I have also referred others to here.
I hope we both sufficiently let them know how much they have helped us.
nigo242 said:
I just wanted to give a huge thank you to this forum and all of XDA-developers forum for the vast amount of information here that helped my noob-ass save my phone.
I thought about paying for JTAG service to get it back to a state where I can use it; however I started to search XDA a bit more and found so many answers and discovered even more questions.
I learned how to use a debrick script on an SD card to get my phone back to power on, installed recovery stock / flash bootloader / kernels / reinstall binary, etc etc. Ultimately, I'm back to where i was at the beginning. Probably a little smarter about what I'm installing and flashing; but so happy that a place like this exists that saved me some $, and kicked me some knowledge.
It was a long journey filled with panic, frustration, and ultimately satisfaction and enjoyment.
Thank You XDA.
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While I am not a developer, I am happy to see someone who actually took the time to read and learn. Thank you for that. I will admit that I have asked a few dumb questions, but for the most part I took what was already written and utilized it resulting in very few problems.
Yes. Thank You!!
Definitely one of the best places for support and help around for our android needs. For sure a huge thank you to the community and helpful people.
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yes,thank you
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Definitely one of the best places for support and help around for our android needs. For sure a huge thank you to the community and helpful people.
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yup, origanally was searching for this mystical thing called 'root', to deliver me from bloatware. my phone, so i figured my choices. after coming down from mt.odin and receiving the holy blessing of ROOT and superSU, I stumbled across another wonderous entity. AND IT SHALL BE CALLED.... X D A (insert big clap of thunder and a lightening bolt or two), ok, ok, ok......thank you to a gracious and patient community for your efforts,generosity,questions,answers, and knowledge. it may take a village to raise a child but it takes XDA to raise a newb!! (yes i will learn what the heck happens between 'download' and 'flash')(no pop quiz yet though,lol, still researching)
thanks button pressed,donate when can,pro version purchased when appropriate.
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I too feel the need to say it as well. Thank you XDA.
I'm sure I'm still a noob in many ways, but a noob with a custom S4 and whose wife has a custom S3. I've never had to ask a question even when I made some ugly mistakes. All the answers are here if you spend the time to look.
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