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[Q] Can't make apps move to SD card

Heya,
Today I flashed a fresh Defrost 6.1a (Which is said to support A2SD+), Flashed Gapps. So far so good.
I took my 8GB SD card and partitioned it in Ubuntu using Gpareted. I set the FAT32 partition first, then a ext3 partition (512MB) second.
Ubuntu read both with accurate sizes.
I put the card back into the phone and looked "SD card & phone storage", it no said my SD card is only 6.89GB, but the Internal phone storage was still low.
I decided to check a little more with Titanium Backup, which surprisingly said that my ext3 partition is only 256MB and is half full (talking about a fresh ROM here).
Can someone point me to where I did wrong?
Maybe format using ext4?
Put the ext partition first?
Reflash ROM after partitioning?
TNX

I have never got A2SD working either. I think you need to install a script or something. Here is a post about A2SD. Also, Android 2.2+ supports moving apps to SD anyway.
If you want more space to install apps, you can install one of AlphaRev's HBoot templates which can increase the /data partition, that's if you have S-Off.
I couldn't be bothered farting around with A2SD and so I did that instead.

CoreOxide said:
Maybe format using ext4?
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No, it will not make it work and will only increase your memory card's wear.
CoreOxide said:
Reflash ROM after partitioning?
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So you flashed the a2sd enabled ROM on the device which didn't have memory card prepared? I always thought such enterprises would end in a boot loop. Flash it again if this is the case.
GoogleJelly said:
Also, Android 2.2+ supports moving apps to SD anyway.
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It is not teh same thing!
erklat said:
How do you inspect if a2sd is working? Coz I think u r doing it wrong. Install Quick system info and check what it says under a2sd storage and if it slowly decreases when you install apps, which means it is working. You don't have to set default install location anywhere, the script does that for you.
What you are referring to here, is Froyo's built-in a2sd which requires the app to be optimized for app2sd, that's why only some of your apps seem to be on the SD card. Furthermore, it will transfer the apps to FAT32 partition, that you don't want for it to do since Android first loads apps which need to be loaded at startup, and afterwards it mounts the SD card, which will lead to some apps failing to start after boot.
a2sd tricks the phone into thinking that ext partition is it's internal memory. Froyo app2sd != a2sd script, don't confuse those two, they are not the same.
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[Q] noob question - created ext4 partition on SD, but how to use it?

Hi,
I've created an ext4 partition on my SD with the intention of using it to store apps on
I used the gparted method described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Now I've flashed a couple of ROM's (Oxygen, Redux and CM7) but have no idea how I can put apps on it
Additional question:
1) if you do a data, cache/dalvik wipe will the apps on the ext4 partition also be deleted or will they remain on it so you can reuse them in another ROM
2) I've rooted and s-offed my stock rom, can I use the partition I've created here as well? and if so, how?
thx
B

berre said:
Hi,
I've created an ext4 partition on my SD with the intention of using it to store apps on
I used the gparted method described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Now I've flashed a couple of ROM's (Oxygen, Redux and CM7) but have no idea how I can put apps on it
Additional question:
1) if you do a data, cache/dalvik wipe will the apps on the ext4 partition also be deleted or will they remain on it so you can reuse them in another ROM
2) I've rooted and s-offed my stock rom, can I use the partition I've created here as well? and if so, how?
thx
B
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on all 3 roms youve mentioned you tried, app2sd is automstically setup on rom install. so you are already using app2sd.
1. yes if you wipe dsata, it wipes your apps on ext 4 partition
2. and yes, your aready using your partition once your using a app2sd rom. specific roms allow you to push your dalvik cache to your partition but it is not reccommended as it can slow donw your phone.

LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
2. and yes, your aready using your partition once your using a app2sd rom. specific roms allow you to push your dalvik cache to your partition but it is not reccommended as it can slow donw your phone.
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hi,
thx for the feedback, can I install app2sd on my stock froyo rom somehow?
I'm rooted and s-offed
Thx
B

extra test: I've installed Leedroid with app2sd
when I install an app from the market my internal memory decreases and I cannot move it to SD card
I've created a 500mb partition, should this be visible as "internal memory"?
cheers
B

Some apps still need some space from the NAND internal memory.

berre said:
I've created a 500mb partition, should this be visible as "internal memory"?
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Nope. But if you download "Quick system info" from the market, you will see where it's written A2SD your external partition and its used space.

berre said:
extra test: I've installed Leedroid with app2sd
when I install an app from the market my internal memory decreases and I cannot move it to SD card
I've created a 500mb partition, should this be visible as "internal memory"?
cheers
B
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If you are like me and want to install lots of apps app2sd is not good enough sorry I was on Leedroid superb ROM but I soon ran out of install memory because even if you move app2sd say you have 20mb app and move it to SD it will move like 16mb to SD and 4mb will still be on phone.
Best way is Data2SD I use startburst and have 2gb ext4 and my phone thinks it has 2gb internal memory
Make sure you backup and have a SD card class 4 and above some say class 2 fine I dont think so.

[Q] Memory and Ram Issue on InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.1.1

I recently installed InsertCoin's CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.1.1, after installing my internal memory has become really low and i only get 120mb of ram when i got 220mb on the official 2.2. I have partitioned my sd card using gparted. I made a normal fat32 and a EXT4. Do i need to make a EXT3 partition? also how would i know if the apps are on my sd card since i cannot move them manually with application manager. Please can you help me. Thanks
Phone info:
HTC Desire Sim Free
S-off using Revolutionary
Rooted with Unrevoked
Current Rom: Official HTC 2.2

Its normal to have low than froyo couse its gb android
And no u dont need ext3 just ext4
If u wanna know if ur apps goes to ur ext4 in ur sd card
Go to market search quick sysktem info pro
U will notice A2SD PARTITION label under basic info
It will tell u how much used and how much free
Dont get mad of free 120 mb i have 87 app installed
All workes fine
Hope iam usefull

do i have to move the apps to the sd card with the application manager because after installing less than 15 apps i get low memory notifications, i had like 40kb internal memory. Using the System Info app i can see that my ext4/a2sd is being used.

ruhelking1 said:
do i have to move the apps to the sd card with the application manager because after installing less than 15 apps i get low memory notifications, i had like 40kb internal memory. Using the System Info app i can see that my ext4/a2sd is being used.
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How big ist your ext 4 Partition?

i made a 2gb etx4 partition using gparted. I think the apps are going on to the ext4 partition from the memory reading on System Info but im still getting low memory notification

i read somewhere that i might need to move dalvik cache to sd. do i need to do this. i have not done anything other than what i have said in my original post. If needs be i can upload some screenshots of quick system info or anything u might need to see

Just to refresh
MY PHONE INFO:
HTC Desire Sim Free
S-off with Revolutionary
Rooted using Unrevoked
ClockworkMod Recovery
Currently on Instertcoin 1.1.2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940)
16gb Memory card = 12.9gb Fat32 and 2gb EXT4
Wiped Data and everything else before 1st install (Dalvik cache,cache)

ruhelking1 said:
i read somewhere that i might need to move dalvik cache to sd. do i need to do this. i have not done anything other than what i have said in my original post. If needs be i can upload some screenshots of quick system info or anything u might need to see
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Try the a2sd+ gui and try to move dalvik cache to SD.

grandem said:
Try the a2sd+ gui and try to move dalvik cache to SD.
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how would i move the dalvik cache. Also if i use the A2SD+ version of the rom, would i install it exactly the same as CM7 or would i have to do something different pre or post install?

SOLVED!!!!
i flashed the CM7r2 hboot from alpharev.nl by downloading the hboot, naming it PB99IMG.zip and using clockwork recovery to update the hboot. then i installed Insertcoins 1.1.2 rom.
WARNING!!!!
FLASHING A NEW HBOOT WILL MAKE YOUR OLD NANDROID BACKUP REDUNDANT, YOU CAN ONLY USE ROMS WITH CM7

Low memory on CM7

Hi,
I've installed the last stable CM7. The weird thing is that with it I only get 148mb of total internal memory. I was using Miui before in which I had more then 400mb of total internal memory.
Does anyone knows what's causing this and a solution to have all the memory available.
Thank you

mama_mia said:
Hi,
I've installed the last stable CM7. The weird thing is that with it I only get 148mb of total internal memory. I was using Miui before in which I had more then 400mb of total internal memory.
Does anyone knows what's causing this and a solution to have all the memory available.
Thank you
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1. What hboot are you using
2. MIUI had "400mb" internal storage, probably because you're using an sd-ext partition on your sd-card and you flashed the D2EXT version of MIUI

bortak said:
1. What hboot are you using
2. MIUI had "400mb" internal storage, probably because you're using an sd-ext partition on your sd-card and you flashed the D2EXT version of MIUI
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I have installed the revolutionary 0.93.0001 (i think) don't have the phone with me right now.
I thought that but the phone supposedly has 512mb internal storage, and 148mb seems very little memory.

Do a little reading and it will be clear why you are having this less memory where your NAND is capable of 512MB. It seems you are using stock hboot. Do you have any idea of partitioning SD card and ext partition? if yes then download s2e and activate the ext feature.

twisted_forever said:
Do a little reading and it will be clear why you are having this less memory where your NAND is capable of 512MB. It seems you are using stock hboot. Do you have any idea of partitioning SD card and ext partition? if yes then download s2e and activate the ext feature.
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I have a ext partition on sd-card to install apps, but the problem here is the internal memory. Not all the apps can be installed on sd-card and 100mb of free space is not enough for me to install all the apps that need to be on internal memory, like widgets and so on.

mama_mia said:
I have a ext partition on sd-card to install apps, but the problem here is the internal memory. Not all the apps can be installed on sd-card and 100mb of free space is not enough for me to install all the apps that need to be on internal memory, like widgets and so on.
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Install S2E (make sure you have ext3 partition)
In the app, move "applications", "dalvik-cache" to sd-ext.
Should be enough, leave Application Data on internal memory homever, as it might have impact on performance.
Move it only if you're running out of space again.
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The answer you quoted already provided you with the answer you need to get things working. CyanogenMod does not support Data2EXT out of the box. Download S2E app on the Play Store. Launch the app, check all the boxes and reboot. You should have EXT3 partition for this to work otherwise all the options on this app will b e grayed out.
CM7 doesn't see EXT4 for some reason without doing a little modification.

Ok, thank you all for your answers.
What I get from this is that miui has all of those thing you're talking builted-in. Or is cyanogen that doesn't see all the internal memory of the phone?
As I explained in the OP on cyanogen it only shows 148mb of internal memory and on miui it shows almost 500mb.

mama_mia said:
Ok, thank you all for your answers.
What I get from this is that miui has all of those thing you're talking builted-in. Or is cyanogen that doesn't see all the internal memory of the phone?
As I explained in the OP on cyanogen it only shows 148mb of internal memory and on miui it shows almost 500mb.
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yes exactly, miui has this built in.
cyanogen won't 'see' the extra partition, but s2e will use it.
i recommend 'diskusage' app to browse your partitions.
also, don't think it has been mentioned here:
- nandroid backup
- s-off if you haven't already
- change hboot to cm7r2
- restore
lookup guides for this, will repartition your internal memory, so it goes up from 148 to 287MB, further reading on memory stuff here

Yeah, exactly what's just been mentioned. Go to alpharev.nl and download the cm7r2 hboot. Flash it and you will have 245mb free.

bortak said:
Yeah, exactly what's just been mentioned. Go to alpharev.nl and download the cm7r2 hboot. Flash it and you will have 245mb free.
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Thank you again.
I think I'll try Oxygen r2 which give me 332 data memory.
Are the diferences between CM7r2 and Oxygen r2 so big?

CM7 won't fit on Oxygen hboot.
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[Qext4 partition problem

hi everyone,
i just rooted and installed the Cyanogen 7.2.0.1-bravo rom and partitionned my sdcard 16gb to a FAT32 partion and ext4 partition with 1gb.
the problem is the intern memory !! ( lack of space ), idk if i missed something or didn't installed a script ... i have app2sd already installed and i moved the most of the apps to my sdcard but the ext4 partion is not used and can't see it .
so what do i have to do ?
ps: i just istalled a2sdFroyo, but doesn't help or i didn't used it right ...
pls help

when you say "i have app2sd already installed" how have you done it?
how did you partition your sd card, should be done with gparted or 4ext recovery only. if you used something else, backup your sd and repartition.
to maximise space, s-off and change hboot to cm7r2, recommend guides here (read them slowly and several times to help your understanding)
then full wipe, install rom.zip again from scratch
to enable the A2SD, one method is to install an app like S2E which can move apps automatically to sd-ext, no need to 'move to sd'. you can keep dalvik cache on internal, and move it to sd-ext if you still run out of space. internal memory will always go down as stuff builds up on internal (data partition)
whatever rom you use, install an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions in future, that way you can actually see where and how your space is being used

i followed the MiniTool Partition tuto to make partitions and then i installed normaly app2sd
why do i have to reistall the rom again ?

darko1x said:
i followed the MiniTool Partition tuto to make partitions and then i installed normaly app2sd
why do i have to reistall the rom again ?
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do not use minitool, this may be the reason why you cannot use the partition at all.
backup your sd card to pc first, then use gparted, there's a video guide from the link i posted
(make sure you have a nandroid backup, titanium backup of apps and backup contacts to google)
i am advising a full wipe because i don't know how you "installed normally app2sd". if you reinstall the rom from scratch without anything else, there is less chance of things going wrong. using S2E afterwards is easy.
if you want to set up this rom or any rom properly so you don't run out of space, you should understand where all your apks, data and dalvik are stored, and what the different hboot partition tables are. it's all in the guides i linked.

i installed app2sd after i finished with the rom and the partitioning of the sdcard, and it works without any problem
i istalled now S2E and i transfered the apps to the ext folder now i have 140Mb free space and i think it's working now becuase i sync with skype and facebook and i still have the same space in my internal memory ...
what do you think ?

darko1x said:
i installed app2sd after i finished with the rom and the partitioning of the sdcard, and it works without any problem
i istalled now S2E and i transfered the apps to the ext folder now i have 140Mb free space and i think it's working now becuase i sync with skype and facebook and i still have the same space in my internal memory ...
what do you think ?
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if you install something like 'diskusage' you can KNOW if it is working...
i would still recommend s-off and change hboot to cm7r2. this will use space more efficiently, and you can install many more apps. just read the guides i linked. you can still learn a lot more

Hi. I think its working, from 1Gb i still have 700 Gb in green color.
Am i right ?
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write down your free sd-ext space then install an app from the play store. Check the space again. If it had gone down your sorted.

darko1x said:
Hi. I think its working, from 1Gb i still have 700 Gb in green color.
Am i right ?
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looks like it is working
with diskusage you can just zoom in on all your partitions including sd-ext, so if you see your app apk's there the script is working.
open diskusage again and select /system. i'm willing to bet that you're still on stock hboot. you will see a lot of free space on system partition, which is useless...
therefore still recommend (for the last time) to s-off and change to cm7r2 hboot. you seem to keep ignoring this and the guides...