[Qext4 partition problem - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi everyone,
i just rooted and installed the Cyanogen 7.2.0.1-bravo rom and partitionned my sdcard 16gb to a FAT32 partion and ext4 partition with 1gb.
the problem is the intern memory !! ( lack of space ), idk if i missed something or didn't installed a script ... i have app2sd already installed and i moved the most of the apps to my sdcard but the ext4 partion is not used and can't see it .
so what do i have to do ?
ps: i just istalled a2sdFroyo, but doesn't help or i didn't used it right ...
pls help

when you say "i have app2sd already installed" how have you done it?
how did you partition your sd card, should be done with gparted or 4ext recovery only. if you used something else, backup your sd and repartition.
to maximise space, s-off and change hboot to cm7r2, recommend guides here (read them slowly and several times to help your understanding)
then full wipe, install rom.zip again from scratch
to enable the A2SD, one method is to install an app like S2E which can move apps automatically to sd-ext, no need to 'move to sd'. you can keep dalvik cache on internal, and move it to sd-ext if you still run out of space. internal memory will always go down as stuff builds up on internal (data partition)
whatever rom you use, install an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions in future, that way you can actually see where and how your space is being used

i followed the MiniTool Partition tuto to make partitions and then i installed normaly app2sd
why do i have to reistall the rom again ?

darko1x said:
i followed the MiniTool Partition tuto to make partitions and then i installed normaly app2sd
why do i have to reistall the rom again ?
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do not use minitool, this may be the reason why you cannot use the partition at all.
backup your sd card to pc first, then use gparted, there's a video guide from the link i posted
(make sure you have a nandroid backup, titanium backup of apps and backup contacts to google)
i am advising a full wipe because i don't know how you "installed normally app2sd". if you reinstall the rom from scratch without anything else, there is less chance of things going wrong. using S2E afterwards is easy.
if you want to set up this rom or any rom properly so you don't run out of space, you should understand where all your apks, data and dalvik are stored, and what the different hboot partition tables are. it's all in the guides i linked.

i installed app2sd after i finished with the rom and the partitioning of the sdcard, and it works without any problem
i istalled now S2E and i transfered the apps to the ext folder now i have 140Mb free space and i think it's working now becuase i sync with skype and facebook and i still have the same space in my internal memory ...
what do you think ?

darko1x said:
i installed app2sd after i finished with the rom and the partitioning of the sdcard, and it works without any problem
i istalled now S2E and i transfered the apps to the ext folder now i have 140Mb free space and i think it's working now becuase i sync with skype and facebook and i still have the same space in my internal memory ...
what do you think ?
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if you install something like 'diskusage' you can KNOW if it is working...
i would still recommend s-off and change hboot to cm7r2. this will use space more efficiently, and you can install many more apps. just read the guides i linked. you can still learn a lot more

Hi. I think its working, from 1Gb i still have 700 Gb in green color.
Am i right ?
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write down your free sd-ext space then install an app from the play store. Check the space again. If it had gone down your sorted.

darko1x said:
Hi. I think its working, from 1Gb i still have 700 Gb in green color.
Am i right ?
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looks like it is working
with diskusage you can just zoom in on all your partitions including sd-ext, so if you see your app apk's there the script is working.
open diskusage again and select /system. i'm willing to bet that you're still on stock hboot. you will see a lot of free space on system partition, which is useless...
therefore still recommend (for the last time) to s-off and change to cm7r2 hboot. you seem to keep ignoring this and the guides...

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Ext3

Hi.
I'm in a dilemma here trying to.fimd out what is wrong. I formatted and partitioned my 4gb SD card to work with App2sd+ by making 3gb Fat32 Primary and First Partition and 1gb EXT3 Primary, however whenever apps are installed they tend to use the First partitioned instead of the reserved 1gb partition I had created.
Maybe I have done something wrong, since I am quite new to App2SD and how it works, but know the basics. I would appreciate your help.
Thank you
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You must flash a rom with a2sd+ support. It's different from the built in support for a2sd, which can be found in the stock froyo roms and above.
Flash Darktremor Apps2SD for Desire in recovery and then use A2SDGUI from the Market to change settings as you like. After that do not manually move apps around. They should me installed to the internal storage which then will be your sd-card.
I failed to metion that I am using Teppic's 'Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5)' ROM with the optional addon 'App2SD+' so I presume it should work fine
However, I am thinking it has something to do with the app I have installed 'Move2SD Enabler' which I think is moving everything to the External Fat32 partition'.
Can someone confirm?
Deeco7 said:
I failed to metion that I am using Teppic's 'Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5)' ROM with the optional addon 'App2SD+' so I presume it should work fine
However, I am thinking it has something to do with the app I have installed 'Move2SD Enabler' which I think is moving everything to the External Fat32 partition'.
Can someone confirm?
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yes it could be, i wondering the same things about the app2sd with my first flash with custom's rom and ap2sd+ (i uninstalled this app).
to be shure that your sript ap2sd+ is working fine you can brouwse your phone and go to system/sd you should see 4 folders... app + app-private +lost-found and dalvik-cache (for the last folder it's assumed that your script got the little "+" which means that is moving the dalvik cache to your ext partition)
hope this would help you
Another idea to see if a2sd+ is working like it should is to download Quick System Info. When you launch it you should see a line with a2sd info. If it is there then a2sd+ is ok, and you can see how much of you ext3 1GB partition is used.
I used the rom manager to make the partitions, then I format them with MiniTool.Partition.Wizard.Professional.v5.2-REDT when needed, you can resize them as needed ... you can download it at rlslog.net
Wow... Is it really time for another "how does x type of app to sd solution work?"
It really is quite simple:
Froyo a2sd uses a folder on the fat32 and the system controls, where the apps is installed, and where they are moved to.
a2sd+/legacy a2sd uses the ext-partition by symlinking the folders /data/apps and /data/dalvik-cache to this partition. This solution is transparent to the system itself, so as far as the android system is aware the apps is installed internal. This means you can use widgets from apps on this partition, and it also means that your apps will allways be installed here, so you cannot move them to internal. You will also not see the extra space, your apps will just not take up as much space when installed.
If you like you have done move the apps to sd through the froyo settings, you actually just move them from the ext-partition to the folder on the fat32-partition.

[Q] Where is my ext4 drive?

Hello, Yesterday I rooted and flashed cyanogenmod on my Desire for the first time following this perfect noob proof guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 to the letter and its working perfectly.
I partioned the SD, got 1 GB of Ext4, as the guide did and all that, and I have had this for a day now and after a few apps I am already down to 40 MB internal memory, whats going on? Did I do something wrong?
Regards
You need to move apps and dalvik-cache to EXT4-partition or flash CM7-Hboot via fastboot if you are S-OFF.
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Thank you for your reply but I really have no idea what that means, im a complete newbie... I followed that guide so I am S-OFF. Where is that Hboot I need to flash? Flashing that now will that remove or clear my phone?
Also I checked my phone:
a2sd:
Capacity: 0.96 GB
Used: 67 MB
Free: 0.89 GB
Clearly its in use is it? Or maybe not... :/
Could someone tell me what to do please?
Look for S2E on the Android Market. That will move your apps to your EXT4 partition. Check the selected folders that you wanna moved to the EXT4 partition. Check Applications, Private Apps and Dalvik Cache (optional but recommended if you have a fast sd card). Reboot after configuring. It will take some time to reboot since it'll be transferring your existing app to the EXT4.
Don't mess with your hboot until you fully understand what you are doing. Check http://alpharev.nl to get an idea and read the sticky on the development section for more information.
THank you so much for your reply. One quick question: If I do as you wrote, Check Applications, Private Apps and Dalvik Cache, will the future apps I install be installed to the Ext4 drive or do I need to do this every time I install new apps etc?
Also I havent messed with my Hboot, I just followed that guide, and one step was to download that alpharev cd and turn S-Off, nothing else.
Thanks again!
As long as you have Cyanogenmod set to install apps to the Internal, you'll be fine and apps will be moved to EXT4 automatically.
Go to Settings>CM7 Settings>Application>Install Location>Internal
The thing to keep in mind here is while using S2E (or any scripts that do the same) is that the EXT4 partition acts as an extension of your internal memory. Although you aren't going to see your phone's internal memory increase in size.
Eneswar said:
Hello, Yesterday I rooted and flashed cyanogenmod on my Desire for the first time following this perfect noob proof guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 to the letter and its working perfectly.
I partioned the SD, got 1 GB of Ext4, as the guide did and all that, and I have had this for a day now and after a few apps I am already down to 40 MB internal memory, whats going on? Did I do something wrong?
Regards
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To make full use of your 1GB ext4 you need a Rom with data2sd , data2ext , xd2sdx. Your using app2sd+ witch dont fully move all app data to sd ext4, say you download a 20mb app 15mb would go to ext4 and the other 5mb would still be on real internal.
Using a Rom with data2ext ect put the ext4 partition has your internal storage showing you 1GB and all app data will go there.
Worked perfectly, thank you so much, now I can get more then 5 apps installed!
I dont really care about the numbers, aslong its on the ext4 and I can install the apps
Thank you for your assistance.
I'm interested in trying this too. Right now I have oxygen with darktremors installed, but would switch back to cm7 if this would give me more space for apps. If I do a nandroid backup and restore, will the apps that had been moved to the sd card be restored properly?
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MIUI data full after 15 apps
shankly1985 said:
To make full use of your 1GB ext4 you need a Rom with data2sd , data2ext , xd2sdx. Your using app2sd+ witch dont fully move all app data to sd ext4, say you download a 20mb app 15mb would go to ext4 and the other 5mb would still be on real internal.
Using a Rom with data2ext ect put the ext4 partition has your internal storage showing you 1GB and all app data will go there.
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So the reason that my data storage is looking like this, could be because I'm running MIUI which uses A2SD not fully moving my apps?
Because I already moved everything I was able to move with s2e.
The link doesn't seem to work because I'm new: This is what it was showing:
Data: used 89 % (used 132 MB, free 15 MB)
ext: used 6 % (used 32 MB, free 440 MB)
cache used 2% ((used 1MB, free 38 MB)
Denobe, what app are you using to give you those stats? I'd like to check my system too.
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DamonZ28 said:
Denobe, what app are you using to give you those stats? I'd like to check my system too.
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The app is called FreeSpace.
I have the same problem with the Revolution 3.0
I have installed the data++ version but i am not sure ifi need to do something else with the hboot (i did the s-off but nothing else).
What could be wrong?
Thanks

sd-ext full, cant install on internall memory

I have a problem, and i cant manage to solve him, so any help will be apriciated.
I installed Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 Special Edition Stable Version
Problem is that every new app that i install goes diractly to the sd-ext. The partition of sd ext is 512, but after installing ROM it size is down to about 80 mb. So after installing few apps sd ext is full and i get an error. Meanwhille i have about 125 mb free on internal storage!
I tried su
a2sd remove, but it tells a2sd not found!
I`m really lost, tried everything for couple of days, so if anyone can help me, please do so...
This ROM requires 1 to 1.5GB ext4.
You might need to extend the sd-ext partition.
The easiest would be to backup your phone, repartition through recovery and reinstall the ROM.
I've been using this ROM for quite some time now and everything works perfectly with a 1GB ext partition.
But the rom is allready installed on sd ext and every other app that i installed later is also on sd ext. But now my sd ext is full, so i want to set as my default location internal memory, but i dont know how to do that... Does anyone have idea?
vnugo said:
But the rom is allready installed on sd ext and every other app that i installed later is also on sd ext. But now my sd ext is full, so i want to set as my default location internal memory, but i dont know how to do that... Does anyone have idea?
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Sd Ext is "internal memory" - the a2sd etc scripts essentially fool the phone into thinking the sd Ext is part of the internal storage. Therefore increases the data storage for your user apps and is where they will install. This is why you have plenty of internal phone storage, but isn't anything to worry about.
Your actual problem using this Rom is that in common with other later sense Roms, parts of the Rom are also installed to the Sd Ext. This is why the sd Ext size needs to be bigger than 512MB, its filling up because its got parts of Rom plus all your user apps on it.
Sure the Rom thread will recommend what size is, needed. So do a nandroid (include sd Ext if AmonRa recovery), copy sd card contents to pc as backup, repartition using Gparted, copy sd backup back to card, nandroid restore.
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You should try ad2sdx in order to increase the number of installed apps.
c90 said:
You should try ad2sdx in order to increase the number of installed apps.
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Can you explain it little bit to me? I`m not sure how this works.
Do you mean how the script works or what do you have to do to get the script working?
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what do i have to do to get the script working?
Do a backup (titanium, so that you can copy the backupfiles into your harddrive), and repartition the SD card. 1,5 to 2 Gb should be more than enough. Your problem is the same one I had with MIUI-XJ. Like people have said over, the problem is too little space on the partition. If you want to keep your messages and whatever else, there are apps to backup them as well. So... Yeah, 1,5-2GB of ext4 partition, than rewind.
But my sd card is already partitioned. How can i erase sd-ext, so i can partition it again?
Personaly if it was me id boot into recovery then do a backup then wipe/factory reset, wipe dalvik+cache and partition sdcard again (1gb) atleast, flash rom (install) restore backup. But thats just me
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gomcho said:
This ROM requires 1 to 1.5GB ext4.
You might need to extend the sd-ext partition.
The easiest would be to backup your phone, repartition through recovery and reinstall the ROM.
I've been using this ROM for quite some time now and everything works perfectly with a 1GB ext partition.
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Woops mist ur post sorry. But i agree
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Space Shortage

My phone is rooted and running on cyanogenMod 7.2. The storage problem I am facing is immense. Have very few apps installed but still always keep getting that Low space warning. Any suggestions?
Kabir999 said:
My phone is rooted and running on cyanogenMod 7.2. The storage problem I am facing is immense. Have very few apps installed but still always keep getting that Low space warning. Any suggestions?
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Create an ext partition on your sd card using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37383522#post37383522
Then look for an a2sd script and flash it. Then all apps you install will be automatically installed to the partition on your sd card.
Could you kindly elaborate the second step? A2sd script and flash?
chromium96 said:
Create an ext partition on your sd card using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37383522#post37383522
Then look for an a2sd script and flash it. Then all apps you install will be automatically installed to the partition on your sd card.
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Check out the "using the ext partition" section in the guide.
You should also s-off and change hboot to cm7r2 to use space more efficiently.
I believe you're still on stock hboot, so you have a lot of free space on system partition which is wasted. Change hboot will also increase upper available /data (internal memory) size.
Check everything's working correctly afterwards by installing another app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions.

[Q] Desire, roms and ext*

Hi guys..
Hope someone will be so nice to help me..
So..I have this desire and it was running with the supernova rom. Problem is it gives me a annoying issue that i didn't manage to solve...not even reset it nor reflashing the rom. It always comes out again..
I decided to try some other roms...and in the last few days i flashed so many, but i never managed to make one to see the ext* partition...at second boot it always shows only some MB as internal memory.. I tried to do it on any way...formatting sd withing the recovery, from pc, flashing alignment..nothing..
Now i'm asking...do i have to have or to do anything special before flashing one of those roms? Why the supernova works with no problem and all the other never?
Thank you in advance
How did u partition ur sdcard?
Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
You should partition your sd card as above, no alignment or anything needed as gparted or 4EXT make properly aligned partitions.
Depending on the ROM, you may still not 'see' the ext partition i.e. you won't see "internal + ext" as your reported internal memory like supernova, but your apps still go to sd-ext. Most of the time you just have to keep your apps on internal (i.e. don't 'move to SD'), which tricks the apps to sd-ext.
Some roms require you activate A2SD via terminal commands, others have built in scripts, see each rom thread for details. Make sure you're also on the right hboot (requires s-off) to maximise actual internal memory /data).
A good way to check is to use an app like 'Diskusage' to browse all your partitions. As long as you're sd-ext is filling up, it's working
jmcclue said:
How did u partition ur sdcard?
Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
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I tried every possible way...as i told.. From recovery and from pc...
Titanium backup actually sees the ext partition...but..when i install the app...after a while internal memory gets full...so..
I don't know...i'm..disappointed and frustrated... Don't get why only tha supernova works as it should without any problem...
eddiehk6 said:
You should partition your sd card as above, no alignment or anything needed as gparted or 4EXT make properly aligned partitions.
Depending on the ROM, you may still not 'see' the ext partition i.e. you won't see "internal + ext" as your reported internal memory like supernova, but your apps still go to sd-ext. Most of the time you just have to keep your apps on internal (i.e. don't 'move to SD'), which tricks the apps to sd-ext.
Some roms require you activate A2SD via terminal commands, others have built in scripts, see each rom thread for details. Make sure you're also on the right hboot (requires s-off) to maximise actual internal memory /data).
A good way to check is to use an app like 'Diskusage' to browse all your partitions. As long as you're sd-ext is filling up, it's working
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Thank you..i will try...
Again..just tried with another one...and...as much as i put back my apps...internal memory gets full...
I don't know what rom is the right one..too many..and too complicated chosing the right one...
I just wish i could have sense and the working ext partition...
Cell is rooted and s-off... Hboot..dunno....it says 0.93.001
Thanks for the answers..
darkchild_74 said:
Thank you..i will try...
Again..just tried with another one...and...as much as i put back my apps...internal memory gets full...
I don't know what rom is the right one..too many..and too complicated chosing the right one...
I just wish i could have sense and the working ext partition...
Cell is rooted and s-off... Hboot..dunno....it says 0.93.001
Thanks for the answers..
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How many apps do you have? over 50?
abaaaabbbb63 said:
How many apps do you have? over 50?
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Yeap...last time i tried to put back apps from titanium backup it told 81...i wasn't putting back them all..but surely more than 50
darkchild_74 said:
Yeap...last time i tried to put back apps from titanium backup it told 81...i wasn't putting back them all..but surely more than 50
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What rom did you try, except supernova?
abaaaabbbb63 said:
What rom did you try, except supernova?
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Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
darkchild_74 said:
Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
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Ok. Now let me explain what happens.
Supernova has a script that moves data/data to sd-ext. Data/data is the folder that occupies most of the data partition. It's the application data itself.
The other ROMs leave data/data on the internal memory, for performance reasons, and move other stuffs, like data/app, or dalvik cache to sd-ext.
You have many apps, so only moving dalvik cache and data/app isn't enough. You should be using ROMs that use INT2EXT or INT2SD scripts, like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961URL
Or, use the INT2EXT4 script from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
darkchild_74 said:
Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
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So you partitioned using 4EXT or gparted? (NOT minitool or clockworkmod recovery as recommended?) If not then backup your sd card and repartition, so we know that it's definitely properly done.
Before you reinstall all your apps in one go, just restore or install one. Then like I said, install 'Diskusage' as well, and try to find where this app has been installed to. If it's on sd-ext, then it's working, and if it's on /data, then it's not.
Depending on the ROM, some stuff will still get stored on the /data (internal memory) partition. So there is always an upper limit to how many apps you can install. Most of the time, app data gets saved on internal. Sometimes dalvik-cache also gets stored there, but you may be able to move it to ext.
Regardless of which ROM or A2SD method or other script, the first step is to work out and understand what is being stored where, hence why I keep recommending 'Diskusage'
Also you are still on stock hboot, which has a very low /data (internal memory) partition, only 147MB. Some ROMs are better on other hboots before you flash them as they have a smaller /system size, and thus a larger /data partition. For instance, many ROMs fit on cm7r2 hboot, with a larger 287MB /data partition which fills up a lot slower. If you decide on a ROM, all of them should say which hboot is best for it, you should download them from alpharev.nl, and flash them via fastboot, guide here.
Thank you guys...so much.. SItuation is more clear now...
So..if i use that Rom with INT2EXT it should work like supernova and it would use the exp partition instead of the data partition..and it could be ok... I got performances would be worse, but again...i was already running a rom with same script..and it was ok... Would i get again that issue about cell reloading the system now and then...or it's caused by the system using the sd instead of the internal memory as data partition?
Again...i think ext partition is ok...i tried to check it...and...the system uses it.. THe problem is that with so many apps...internal memory gets full anyway...so..i have to find another solution...
I checked..and i always read that it was ok with stock hboot....i'm not such an expert...but since i never touched it..i thought it was stock... As i told, i rooted it..and turn it s-off...
I know the bad things about this cell is the low memory space, i just wanted to use it 'cause for the rest isn't bad...and even changing the internal partition...will make it better...but...dunno if it will worth the...risk..?? I
I will think about it.. Guess i can even give up on some apps...and put there only the apps i really need...it won't be a problem...
Thanks again to both
Really appreciated
darkchild_74 said:
Thank you guys...so much.. SItuation is more clear now...
So..if i use that Rom with INT2EXT it should work like supernova and it would use the exp partition instead of the data partition..and it could be ok... I got performances would be worse, but again...i was already running a rom with same script..and it was ok... Would i get again that issue about cell reloading the system now and then...or it's caused by the system using the sd instead of the internal memory as data partition?
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Glad it's starting to make sense. Yes that script should work for a lot of apps. Don't know about the "reloading system" issue, but your main goal is space for apps.
Again...i think ext partition is ok...i tried to check it...and...the system uses it.. THe problem is that with so many apps...internal memory gets full anyway...so..i have to find another solution...
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It's always best if it is created using gparted or 4EXT recovery, they are the recommended methods by far.
I checked..and i always read that it was ok with stock hboot....i'm not such an expert...but since i never touched it..i thought it was stock... As i told, i rooted it..and turn it s-off...
I know the bad things about this cell is the low memory space, i just wanted to use it 'cause for the rest isn't bad...and even changing the internal partition...will make it better...but...dunno if it will worth the...risk..?? I
I will think about it.. Guess i can even give up on some apps...and put there only the apps i really need...it won't be a problem...
Thanks again to both
Really appreciated
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Yes, you are still on stock hboot. Once you understand why you may want to change hboot, it's worth the small 'risk', because that way you do actually get more internal memory . I believe on some of the ROMs you tried you simply ran out of memory faster because you didn't change hboot.
As for which hboot you use, it is entirely dependent on the ROM, you have to search this yourself. I would recommend a ROM with at least cm7r2 hboot, and a int2ext script if possible.
(And I'll keep recommend installing 'diskusage' until you try it and understand how and where all your memory is used)
Just to let you know i managed to change the hboot with proper one...partitioned the sd again via 4ext recovery..installed the right rom and it shows me the ext4 partiiom as internal memory..
Now just have to test it and see if i will get the same problem i was having with supernova, and if it works properly..
Thank you so much to both for the help...really appreciated...

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