Since the S4 already has a rom leak, just wondering if the S4 rom is even compatible with theh S3 given the different processor, camera and so on. I have given up on ATT releasing anything further for the S3.
CrezyMunky said:
Since the S4 already has a rom leak, just wondering if the S4 rom is even compatible with theh S3 given the different processor, camera and so on. I have given up on ATT releasing anything further for the S3.
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Its likely we will see something eventually, just not the same day as the leak drops. Be patient
Most definately not comptabile out of the box, but an eventual port is more than likely just a matter of time.
As for updates to the S3 from Samsung/AT&T/Bell/Telus/Rogers, I'd expect at least a 4.2.x TW ROM and less likely but still possible, a 5.x TW ROM as well.
It all depends on the required min specs of Android 5.x. But, since the advent of Android, RAM has always been the biggest caveat with respect to upgrade paths. With all the latest flagship phones still coming out with 2Gb or RAM, expect our phones to be able to easily run Android 5.x.
Unfortunately, it all comes down to Samsung and the carriers to decide if we're worthy of an upgrade.
Apparently S3 is getting 5.x
International variants only however.. there's posts all over the place with news links/sources..
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I'm currently on the Samsung Epic 4G (OG, not touch). I'm switching from Sprint as the service is lacking in my neighborhood (and work is footing the service bill).
I read that Verizon was going to lock the bootloader, but I also know that chainfire has a root solution (dunno if that will bypass Verizon's shenanigans).
The dev community for the Epic has been AMAZING in making things work (such as AOKP, Paranoid Android and CM10), despite the limitations they've faced (lack of official support (CM in the early days), having to port updates from the Nexus, etc)
Is the Note II looking to be a good phone for flashaholics?
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simple answer no. until samsung opens up the source for many things on these phones the support is very very poor. the best developers of the CM team will not even touch this device because of the lack of source. it's just too difficult without it. it's not looking good. only time will tell.
maybe
rumor has it that there was some good communication between some devs and the exynos folks at android bbq, so maybe it will pan out
This question might be dumb, but since AOSP might be some time away, how much of TouchWiz can be replaced so far? My wife has a Captivate Glide with ICS and I installed Nova, but there's still just so much hideous Samsung UI... the pull down, the menus, the drawer, etc.
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rumor has it that there was some good communication between some devs and the exynos folks at android bbq, so maybe it will pan out
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that's the problem. they are going to release some exynos sources but this doesn't mean it's what we need to get everything going i'm hoping for the best! we need AOSP for this beastly phone!
This tablet line has really sparked my interest but there are almost no roms (only cm11 that I see) and I'd like a nexus experience with physical buttons.
How long before we get some news on the GPE tab pro? Seems like that is what's holding back rom development for this line, correct?
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This tablet line has really sparked my interest but there are almost no roms (only cm11 that I see) and I'd like a nexus experience with physical buttons.
How long before we get some news on the GPE tab pro? Seems like that is what's holding back rom development for this line, correct?
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It's out for a very short range, thats why there are no roms so far. I dont think it will get a Play Store Edition :crying:
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This tablet line has really sparked my interest but there are almost no roms (only cm11 that I see) and I'd like a nexus experience with physical buttons.
How long before we get some news on the GPE tab pro? Seems like that is what's holding back rom development for this line, correct?
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I would say that what is holding back ROM development is a complete lack of developers...
With my CM11 device tree repos, it should be relatively straight-forward for someone to build other source based ROMs. But, none have appeared.
Then there is the world of ROMs that are based on the stock ROM. We don't have anyone that has stepped up and made the standard debloated ROM. Sadly, that means that there probably aren't any people that know how to do that either.
That said, the hardware is great and I get to piggy-back on a lot of the work that Cyanogen does for the Note 3 which makes some of the hardware support very advanced. FWIW, I'm quite happy with my purchase.
As much as I love my 8.4, A black 32GB Google Play edition would pretty much require me to buy another :good:
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I would say that what is holding back ROM development is a complete lack of developers...
With my CM11 device tree repos, it should be relatively straight-forward for someone to build other source based ROMs. But, none have appeared.
Then there is the world of ROMs that are based on the stock ROM. We don't have anyone that has stepped up and made the standard debloated ROM. Sadly, that means that there probably aren't any people that know how to do that either.
That said, the hardware is great and I get to piggy-back on a lot of the work that Cyanogen does for the Note 3 which makes some of the hardware support very advanced. FWIW, I'm quite happy with my purchase.
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Agreed. I really wish I had the equipment and know-how to use your kernel and device tree and build SlimKat (my ROM of choice). Hopefully more folks will buy this tablet as time goes by, and we'll get some more talent in here. I did have a pm conversation with someone from the Slim team who expressed a little interest in the device, so fingers crossed.
From my Pro Tab 8.4
crpalmer said:
I would say that what is holding back ROM development is a complete lack of developers...
With my CM11 device tree repos, it should be relatively straight-forward for someone to build other source based ROMs. But, none have appeared.
Then there is the world of ROMs that are based on the stock ROM. We don't have anyone that has stepped up and made the standard debloated ROM. Sadly, that means that there probably aren't any people that know how to do that either.
That said, the hardware is great and I get to piggy-back on a lot of the work that Cyanogen does for the Note 3 which makes some of the hardware support very advanced. FWIW, I'm quite happy with my purchase.
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Any chance your work will be submitted to be an officially supported Cyanogenmod device?
Or is it too much work to be a maintainer for a device.
Thank you so much for your work already.
Dazog said:
Any chance your work will be submitted to be an officially supported Cyanogenmod device?
Or is it too much work to be a maintainer for a device.
Thank you so much for your work already.
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My goal is to make it official when I have everything working. But, I have to finish it first... I already maintain one device so adding a second wouldn't be that big a deal.
I just couldn't hold out any long. Picked up the black on yesterday and WOW this screen is amazing. I'll be running CM11 from your thread by lunch, and will help to provide feedback over there. thanks!!
I was wondering why any root/rom discussion seems to only be focused on the 8.4; are there reasons the 10.1 isn't included (I realize less people seem to be getting the bigger tab). Looking to love my 10.1, as the 8.4 is too small for my reading needs. Thanks for any info!
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I was wondering why any root/rom discussion seems to only be focused on the 8.4; are there reasons the 10.1 isn't included (I realize less people seem to be getting the bigger tab). Looking to love my 10.1, as the 8.4 is too small for my reading needs. Thanks for any info!
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Two reasons. One, I have a tab pro 8.4... Two, the 8.4 is based on the snapdragon 800 (msm8974) processor which is very well supported on other devices. The 10.1 is an Exynos processor which is not well supported by source built android roms.
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Two reasons. One, I have a tab pro 8.4... Two, the 8.4 is based on the snapdragon 800 (msm8974) processor which is very well supported on other devices. The 10.1 is an Exynos processor which is not well supported by source built android roms.
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Thanks for the quick and helpful reply. Pretty new to Android world, but I loved switching from my iPhone 5 to the Nexus 5 so much, and how easy it was to root, and add Franco and Gravity Box, that I jumped on the 10.1 to replace my iPad Air. Knew Nexus' were known for being easy to root, but didn't know about Samsung's Knox Warranty Killer! But still mostly pleased, and as I despise Apple's $200 for 64gb(- os) policy, love being able to carry around 3000 books, several movies, and 30gb of flac music.
Hopefully it will be safe to root soon.
I haven't looked into the files etc. in the ROMs, but from looking at the physical hardware specifications they are VERY similar in terms of processor, GPU, RAM, internal storage etc. The question I have is whether they should be very easy to port from one device to the other? Are the drivers for the sAMOLED massively different from the LCD in the Tab Pro?
I may have a go flashing one of the Tab S 10.5 ROMs on to my Tab Pro 10.1 and see what happens...
Does anyone know if there is anything obvious which would prevent it from working? Other than the model ID checks obviously...
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I haven't looked into the files etc. in the ROMs, but from looking at the physical hardware specifications they are VERY similar in terms of processor, GPU, RAM, internal storage etc. The question I have is whether they should be very easy to port from one device to the other? Are the drivers for the sAMOLED massively different from the LCD in the Tab Pro?
I may have a go flashing one of the Tab S 10.5 ROMs on to my Tab Pro 10.1 and see what happens...
Does anyone know if there is anything obvious which would prevent it from working? Other than the model ID checks obviously...
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I wouldn't try flashing a ROM for a different device on your Tab Pro, you could get yourself into a lot of trouble and you could end up with a Bricked tablet!!!!!
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looking at the physical hardware specifications they are VERY similar in terms of processor, GPU, RAM, internal storage etc.
Does anyone know if there is anything obvious which would prevent it from working?
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???? Look again. The Pro uses a Snapdragon 800 SoC from Qualcomm, the S an Exynos SoC from Samsung.
BTW, there is a sticky in this forum indicating that questions belong in the Q&A/Troubleshooting section, not here. The mods will move it shortly.
Apologies for putting in the wrong section.
that aside, the tab pro 10.1 comes with the exynos chipset here in the UK. The 5420 to be precise, the exact same chipset that the tab s comes with. The only differences between the tab pro 10.1 and the tab s 10.5 is the SAMOLED and the S-pen compatible touch matrix.
I know there are variants of the tab pro with snapdragon chipsets, but the 10.1 is exynos.
FYI
Having had a bit of a mess around with some of the ROMs for the SM-T800 (Galaxy Tab S Exynos) I managed to get some pleasing results. Some elements don't work, mainly the keyboard and WiFi at the moment (presumably they use different wireless chipsets). Managed to fix the Wifi but still working on some other bits and pieces.
May contact a ROM dev who works on the Tab S and see if I can produce a port of one of their ROMs. Mainly interested to see if I can port over a Lollipop ROM but thought starting with a 4.4.2 one was a good shout.
In the most light-hearted of ways - SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER!
If everything works as planned i'll set up a ROM port in the general development section of the forum. :good:
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Having had a bit of a mess around with some of the ROMs for the SM-T800 (Galaxy Tab S Exynos) I managed to get some pleasing results. Some elements don't work, mainly the keyboard and WiFi at the moment (presumably they use different wireless chipsets). Managed to fix the Wifi but still working on some other bits and pieces.
May contact a ROM dev who works on the Tab S and see if I can produce a port of one of their ROMs. Mainly interested to see if I can port over a Lollipop ROM but thought starting with a 4.4.2 one was a good shout.
In the most light-hearted of ways - SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER!
If everything works as planned i'll set up a ROM port in the general development section of the forum. :good:
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Kudos to you. I have a 10.1 pro and the chipset is Exynos (I'm in UK). Interested in the port which is likely to be successful. I'm also interested in rooting it whilst keeping Knox 0x0.
Thanks
shayind4 said:
Kudos to you. I have a 10.1 pro and the chipset is Exynos (I'm in UK). Interested in the port which is likely to be successful. I'm also interested in rooting it whilst keeping Knox 0x0.
Thanks
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Will keep ars***g about as it is still uber buggy and I don't have permission from creators to distribute yet but will keep you posted.
Currently using the new 'flat UI' which looks and performs great.:highfive:
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Will keep ars***g about as it is still uber buggy and I don't have permission from creators to distribute yet but will keep you posted.
Currently using the new 'flat UI' which looks and performs great.:highfive:
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Hi
Any progress with the port?
THanks
How's this looking?? Exciting to see Stock LP work , love to see this available for SMARY T320!! Great job people :
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I haven't looked into the files etc. in the ROMs, but from looking at the physical hardware specifications they are VERY similar in terms of processor, GPU, RAM, internal storage etc. The question I have is whether they should be very easy to port from one device to the other? Are the drivers for the sAMOLED massively different from the LCD in the Tab Pro?
I may have a go flashing one of the Tab S 10.5 ROMs on to my Tab Pro 10.1 and see what happens...
Does anyone know if there is anything obvious which would prevent it from working? Other than the model ID checks obviously...
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Any luck here?? Looking at all the hardware and software I believe the files are identical and only differentials are ram, processor, display.
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Apologies people, not made much headway recently as work has been manic (I'm a 25 year old IT account manager so free time is a rarity!)
I am still awaiting a response as to whether I can kang some bits from other ROMs as well so will do some chasing and see where we can get
I have been running my mash-up for a little while and there's still lots to fix before it becomes useable...
I'm glad people are interested in this, though
One thing to one of the posters, this is just a 'flat UI' style ROM based on 4.4.2/4.4.4 so is NOT a full LP ROM - that may change, but I haven't played with kernels enough yet to try and lob LP on it properly.
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Keep trying your best. We are waiting. Do let us know if we can help.
Shayind4
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Apologies people, not made much headway recently as work has been manic (I'm a 25 year old IT account manager so free time is a rarity!)
I am still awaiting a response as to whether I can kang some bits from other ROMs as well so will do some chasing and see where we can get
I have been running my mash-up for a little while and there's still lots to fix before it becomes useable...
I'm glad people are interested in this, though
One thing to one of the posters, this is just a 'flat UI' style ROM based on 4.4.2/4.4.4 so is NOT a full LP ROM - that may change, but I haven't played with kernels enough yet to try and lob LP on it properly.
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Willing to so what I can. Love to see some LP action on the Tab Pro line. Especially the SM T320
Seriously I accidently (and stupidly) checked the G920 forums original android dev section and the blowup of AOSP based ROMs is just getting cruel as I sit on a crippled TW base :/.
Same SoC, yet no love
I feel your pain bro.
Same here :/ and I just got the phone , going to wait till next year for the s9/s9 plus
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Same here :/ and I just got the phone , going to wait till next year for the s9/s9 plus
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OUCH I landed mine this Summer sometime and an Ex GF actually FRP locked it, so I was pretty happy just to break that lock, then found CM13 floating around here right after, & probably just assumed we were going full throttle like all other flagships from Sammy.
Even Android File Hosts developer counts.
Note 5 130ish devs reported? Like 7 pages of names.
s6 Edge+ devs reported at somewhere around 30 total. Is this even seriously happening?
They are ALL THE SAME DEVICE Why we don't just have an *Exynos7420 device area is beyond me, we would go alot further merging all the TWRP commits into a universal for whole SoC lineup then carrier Variants to simplify it all again, instead with the way it is I have no clue what is possible and a good idea or totally stupid and a bootloop in the making. >.<
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I feel like part of the problem may be users that don't roll up their sleeves and learn to contribute to the community. If there's a project you want to see, and it doesn't exist, start it. It looks like you'd have lots of greatful people.
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I feel like part of the problem may be users that don't roll up their sleeves and learn to contribute to the community. If there's a project you want to see, and it doesn't exist, start it. It looks like you'd have lots of greatful people.
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How? There are plenty of projects on the same SoC with no desire to port to the 4 or 5 users (Us) that care
Personally I just sold this phone for $80 today over this, and the fact for 6mths its been nothing but a headache, 6mths of learning googling and tinkering, + probably 2tb in total internet data for this. I still don't quite understand the finer details of this device, and to be totally honest, I wouldn't want to, it all seems to be about rerouting and fixing up stuff to work around AOSP code.
If you really thought about getting an Exynos or a Samsung device in general just for tinkering and community involvement, it was your mistake from the start. even if the S6/Note 5 have more support than the edge plus (which mainly because of the sales/price difference between the regular edge and the plus) they are nothing but 10% of the support you will find for devices like the OnePlus, Xiaomi, Nexuses or even Crap Sony and mainly because these other manufacturers are more developer friendly and most of the time their code is very similar to AOSP.
Well if s6 , s6 edge and s6 edge+ are basically the same device, would s6 or s6 edge rom work on edge+?
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Well if s6 , s6 edge and s6 edge+ are basically the same device, would s6 or s6 edge rom work on edge+?
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It would. With (depends on which ROM) more or less modifications. MIUI in original development section is an S6 port.
Note 5 ROMs seems to be much easier to port (most likely just use an S6e+ kernel) because it's even more similar to our device.
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It would. With (depends on which ROM) more or less modifications. MIUI in original development section is an S6 port.
Note 5 ROMs seems to be much easier to port (most likely just use an S6e+ kernel) because it's even more similar to our device.
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Yes this is all true but the differences between the s6, s6 edge, s6e+, & also the note5 respectively share extremely similar traits with the other device that runs all kinds of fun stuff (Meizu Pro 5) and the only major difference I could grasp between them is the ODIN mode/Fastboot swaps + some minor stuff (hardware buttons, higher res camera, scanner on back of phone)
But they were still ALL the same manufacturing & SoC line (Sony Camera, Exynos7420) but the pro5 just magically somehow can be released with an Ubuntu Touch edition + CyanogenMod like cake??? I dont buy that man..... If it were such a hassle to do this phones hardware for devs, they wouldn't be just flexing it in the background like that......
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If you really thought about getting an Exynos or a Samsung device in general just for tinkering and community involvement, it was your mistake from the start. even if the S6/Note 5 have more support than the edge plus (which mainly because of the sales/price difference between the regular edge and the plus) they are nothing but 10% of the support you will find for devices like the OnePlus, Xiaomi, Nexuses or even Crap Sony and mainly because these other manufacturers are more developer friendly and most of the time their code is very similar to AOSP.
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Did you not see the comments or?
I got the device for free, I had no clue what was inside of it, also didn't care about the SoC since I had prior knowledge that Samsung would be a simple process with Odin & a CF package, what I hadn't counted on was TouchWiz still being the most bloated & unstable manufacturers slop on the market, also hadn't counted on it being the hardest overall to develop for, since most of the developers lost their XDA accounts eve attempting to bring CM13 up for the device, & don't get me wrong I have had plenty of HTC/Motorola devices & I sold my Nexus 7 not long ago, I'm familiar with AOSP (the thing these Samsung devs had to of started from) and just can't understand why they made is so much of a runaround process.
Morning guys, it's been a while since my last visit to that section of XDA, (apologize in advance for my english) and i noticed nothing changed, no new roms or development
Isn't that sad? i mean, i'm not pretending that everyone MUST develop for such an old phone but some of the "latest" roms here are still bugged due to a no-more developing, yeah, i know, is an old and not popular device but mine is still working and not having a smooth and fresh-looking rom makes me think, is the end for that device? it's my secondary phone now and i'm just thinking loud voice.
Just think that Note 2 have better stable and newer rom and more development, i use a nougat-based rom (DotOS)on my note 2 and prefer use that one instead of note 3 neo, because is quicker, smoother and updated, at least it runs Nougat, a not-bugged and full working version...
Thanks reading my thought.