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SGS3 from iOS

I am a longtime android user, own all nexus devices, etc.
My brother is thinking about making the jump from iPhone to an sgs3, should he stay on touchwiz or should I help him get a stable ROM on there? Maybe AOKP jellybean?
Suggestions and opinions/experiences appreciated.

I'd say stock for a bit then later aokp. Let him get a taste of both worlds...
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Agree. Flashing a frequently updated ROM might be a bit much for an iPhone user, and touchwiz is friendly enough!

I'd say stock w/ either Apex/Nova launcher

I say let him run stock, maybe if he wants a luncher on top of it, but if coming from iOS I would let him run TW fully there are some really cool features in TW that he will enjoy so much .

I say run stock for a few months, or until he is throughly annoyed by touch wiz. Then start flashing. Let him get used to how Android works, the menus, eyv before throwing custom stuff at him. If he doesn't know how it's SUPPOSED to work, he won't know when it DOESN'T work on a custom.

Personal opinion but no god awful touchwiz...and with the USSD bug goin around even more reason for me to never ever reccommend anyone use it

You say you have all the Nexus devices, so I'm assuming that means the Galaxy Nexus? How about letting him use your Nexus and you get an S3? That way he can get used to pure Android without having to root.

djkinetic said:
Personal opinion but no god awful touchwiz...and with the USSD bug goin around even more reason for me to never ever reccommend anyone use it
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There is no bug, Samsung fixed it long before it was made public and current versions of the stock firmware don't have it
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That depends whether he uses Wi-Fi or not. If he does then AOSP/AOKP ROM's will not work for him.
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the_boris said:
That depends whether he uses Wi-Fi or not. If he does then AOSP/AOKP ROM's will not work for him.
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Maybe I'm missing something but, are you implying wifi doesn't work on aosp roms?
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the_boris said:
That depends whether he uses Wi-Fi or not. If he does then AOSP/AOKP ROM's will not work for him.
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LOL What? WiFi works fine...
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corythug said:
Maybe I'm missing something but, are you implying wifi doesn't work on aosp roms?
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Not that it completely does not work. It works for awhile. And then disconnects.
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the_boris said:
Not that it completely does not work. It works for awhile. And then disconnects.
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No it doesn't.

crash822 said:
No it doesn't.
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Lucky you.
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the_boris said:
Lucky you.
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Go into advance settings for WiFi on aosp/aokp and uncheck the box for don't use weak signal. Problem solved.
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miztaken1312 said:
Go into advance settings for WiFi on aosp/aokp and uncheck the box for don't use weak signal. Problem solved.
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Also make sure to uncheck the box that turns wifi off when screen is off.

miztaken1312 said:
Go into advance settings for WiFi on aosp/aokp and uncheck the box for don't use weak signal. Problem solved.
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Also make sure to uncheck the box that turns wifi off when screen is off.
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Tried both settings many times. Never helped. On Ariel 2.7 (and I suspect on the latest OTA as well) WiFi just works and never drops.

Aren't alot of features that come on the GSIII tied into TW? I haven't switched to AOKP on this phone but ran it on my GSII. There are things you have to give up by going AOKP or CM.

axis01 said:
Aren't alot of features that come on the GSIII tied into TW? I haven't switched to AOKP on this phone but ran it on my GSII. There are things you have to give up by going AOKP or CM.
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Like crap battery life, 26 hrs plus on AOKP. Lol. There are TW features that are missing (certain camera features come to mind). But to the point of the OP, if you haven't used TW much, you won't miss them. Yes, AOKP/CM10 are updated frequently, but you don't have to update unless you want to. If the build you are on is stable, battery life is great and you're happy, don't update. I flash every update, my wife is on an early August build. For a person new to the S3, I would stay stock for a month (30 day return policy). If they're happy, leave it alone. If the battery sucks, root it, load Titanium Backup, and kill all the S-crap and carrier bloat. It should be a learning process, done in steps. Android is fun and there are so many options, which (to me) is why it is better than IOS. Too many people rush into custom ROM's without acquiring the basic knowledge of how Android works.
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[Q] Will I benefit from flashing a different radio?

I am running aerovan's cm 10-20121003 with 2.6.35.14 ae14 kernel and radio 1.09.01.0622 I've got between -83 and -95 dBm signal strength when I check. I ask you guys, who I consider experts compared to me, if there is any reason for me to flash a different radio. If the answer is yes then a suggested radio would be a welcome addition to your answer. Oh and thanks in advance.

Jasonp0 said:
I am running aerovan's cm 10-20121003 with 2.6.35.14 ae14 kernel and radio 1.09.01.0622 I've got between -83 and -95 dBm signal strength when I check. I ask you guys, who I consider experts compared to me, if there is any reason for me to flash a different radio. If the answer is yes then a suggested radio would be a welcome addition to your answer. Oh and thanks in advance.
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It couldn't hurt but those are pretty good numbers you're getting, I wouldn't expect a lot better
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So the short answer is no.
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Derp

The short answer is try it and see
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jeremytn86 said:
The short answer is try it and see
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Yeah, you can always flash back. It's easy. Rename it, put it on root of sd, reboot into bootloader and let it do its thing. Be sure to rename again and put it somewhere else or delete it once you are done. Otherwise anytime you boot into bootloader it will try to flash again, which some say is bad. If you don't know how to do it, check the stickies.
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I'm great at reading stickies. I was just wanting to know what the benefits of flashing a new radio really were. Like I said I'm pulling good service. I was just trying to figure out the benefit vs. potential risks of flashing a radio. It does seem like the risk is relatively low, but I really haven't seen the benefit side of it.

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I'm great at reading stickies. I was just wanting to know what the benefits of flashing a new radio really were. Like I said I'm pulling good service. I was just trying to figure out the benefit vs. potential risks of flashing a radio. It does seem like the risk is relatively low, but I really haven't seen the benefit side of it.
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The reason we say try and see is because benefit varies. Some don't notice any. I'm not sure I do. Others see better battery, signal, performance, ect. Nothing about this phone is consistent for everyone. One person swears a rom is flawless and another can't get it to boot. If you think your phone performs well enough I would not bother.
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I did end up updating the radio. I haven't seen any noticeable change. So for me it was pointless from a performance stand point, but from the experience stand point it was worth it. The slight moment of panic when the phone doesn't make it past the splash screen before all of the different advice from what I've read on the forums kick in and I go into recovery and wipe the delvak which I had forgotten and the cache and everything booted up great.
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Agreed. It's good to learn. Helps ease your mind about trying things.
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[Q] What are we waiting on?

What are we waiting on in order to get JB and AOSP?
I'm asking out of pure curiosity. I looked in various threads to try and find the answer. I don't think I get it. Anyways. Thanks for any info!
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Was wondering this haha.
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Seems to me that the devs for lgog want to release a "good" rom (everything working). So that is what we are waiting on.

There is already JB for LGOG but there are reports that people can't send messages.

There's a jb ROM from Houston that Everything works except making calls
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javskies said:
There's a jb ROM from Houston that Everything works except making calls
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I thought people couldn't send messages and 3G didn't work. Well that sucks.

No he made a new kernel that fixed all that. Just can't make calls
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3G works on Houston's ROM
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So then, this is the calm before the storm? They're in testing I guess?
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Also Xboxfanj, who is working on I believe getting cm10 or something is having issues with GPS, nfc, and I think camera. So err ate getting close. Wouldn't be surprised if they waited for official jb and source drop till they do release it
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Until someone has posted a working rom in our Sprint Development page I would strongly recommend not flashing anything cloned from another OG version. Xbox is working tirelessly under very stressful conditions(St. Louis) to give us a CM version of JB. The biggest hindrance is that are phone is different from the other OG. Actually, all the OG are different from each other from one aspect to another. We all share the same CPU. So booting isn't an issue. But, after that it really is difficult to get each thing to work. The Sprint version uses its own CDMA which is not the same as what they use in Korea. At&t has its own camera, the Japanese version is waterproof(seriously), the Canadian version wishes it was an American.
If you flash any of these roms(unless triple confirmed it is safe) you can really jack stuff up. You need to not only back up your phone but I would back up your partitions.
My strongest recommendation if you are merely a hobby flasher is to wait. I know it has been a tough long road but the finish line is in sight. We will have source for our phone(LS970) in a month. We will have the OTA in a month. If you flash anything Korean be prepared to face the consequences if things don't go well.
So, what are we waiting on? The simple and most honest answer is LG. Send them an email, blast them on twitter, blast Sprint to have them blast LG, call the development department, email multiple sources, write a letter to the Android sites online. Maybe they could write a story about it. If you put their feet to the fire they will have to say something. But, be kind and sane in your approach. The problem of getting our phone updated is not because of lack of development. We have some great guys.

kc_exactly said:
the Canadian version wishes it was an American.
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Lol
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Will rooting help my 4g single?

I've been getting really frustrated with the service on my LG. Basically what my problem is I work in a warehouse building and I'm constantly switching between 3g and 4g. It's driving me crazy. Now I was wondering if I was to root my phone would there be a way to increase my data speeds? Or just a overall better single?
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bigjoexxl said:
I've been getting really frustrated with the service on my LG. Basically what my problem is I work in a warehouse building and I'm constantly switching between 3g and 4g. It's driving me crazy. Now I was wondering if I was to root my phone would there be a way to increase my data speeds? Or just a overall better single?
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think you can turn LTE off in the settings to cdma only. not sure if that is it tho. i work in a warehouse t oo but we dont have LTE here unfortunately

Go to settings then mobile networks then change to just cdma.
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bigjoexxl said:
I've been getting really frustrated with the service on my LG. Basically what my problem is I work in a warehouse building and I'm constantly switching between 3g and 4g. It's driving me crazy. Now I was wondering if I was to root my phone would there be a way to increase my data speeds? Or just a overall better single?
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If you root, unlock, flash the JB radio updates, and flash one of the JB roms it may help. From what I've read people have been getting a better signal after flashing the radio update. I haven't been able to flash the radio update or a JB rom yet, but once I do, I'll have a more reliable opinion on the subject. If you flash the radio update, be sure that you also upgrade to Jelly Bean, the update doesn’t work well with ICS.
Part of the lack of signal problem has to do with Sprint sucking at providing reliable service.

Radio updates?? Will sprint ever release that to everyone? Cuz I'm kinda scared to root. I rooted my htc evo but it seems a lot more difficult these days.
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I just flashed the JB radios and stock rooted ROM and I noticed my signals had a dramatic spike in quality. As far as being nervous to root I'd say you're more than capable. Prior to my LGOG I also had the EVO 4G like you. I've rooted both and flashed multiple ROMs. By no means am I a wizard with the gadgets, but I'm fairly tech-savvy. Since you are in these threads I'd bet you and I are pretty similar so if I didn't have much difficulty I am suspecting you won't be very troubled either. Good luck!

Sounds like I need to root this bad boy then. Also thanks for your reply. Could someone post a good link with step by step instructions for rooting. My htc evo I ran that baby into the ground by flashing different Roms. Lol
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bigjoexxl said:
Could someone post a good link with step by step instructions for rooting.
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[GUIDE] 3-13-13- ROOT, UNLOCK- zvb/jb, zv9, zv8, zv7

Low support?

Is this phone losing support? It doesn't seem a whole lot of breakthroughs are surfacing anymore. Coming from Evo 4g where stuff was constantly popping up despite HTC dropping support, I would think this phone would have many more options it being way more current. Is it because of tmobile, the phone itself, etc? I'm considering swapping out this for the s3 as I just recently got this phone because it was cheap but I have one more week to decide...
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Seems like a good amount of roms in development to me?
Jb seems all very similar to me....a few good choices is plenty. Again....to me.
Yes....devs do move on tho....phone is getting older now...contracts come up and people update to newer devices. Nature of the beast I think.
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if you had the option of s3 why'd you choose the 2 year old s2

We went from android 2.3 and now on the latest android, 4.2. We have cm9,cm10, cm10.1, miui, chameleon os, aokp, slim bean, liquid smooth, pacman, paranoid and touchwiz 4.0 and 4.1.2. That seems like most of the ROMs out in development. And we have some great devs still working for this phone.
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Er, the dev section is very active...
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Yeah I agree we have a lot of good support still this thread needs closed it pointless
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there are several stable 4.2.2 roms out there. how much more current support do you need?
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moxiot said:
there are several stable 4.2.2 roms out there. how much more current support do you need?
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I already feel we have more than enough of basically the same thing. All jb roms are fairly similar in look and their guts....aside from tw vs aosp.
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kj2112 said:
I already feel we have more than enough of basically the same thing. All jb roms are fairly similar in look and their guts....aside from tw vs aosp.
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That's the nature of the beast though. Sure, all the tw roms share similarity, but so do the other forks of android...aokp and cm. The differences are under the hood and not visual.
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blackangst said:
That's the nature of the beast though. Sure, all the tw roms share similarity, but so do the other forks of android...aokp and cm. The differences are under the hood and not visual.
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Actually I think the difference between aokp and cm are visuals. Ie customizations..

We have many choices, but as far as originality it seems most, not ALL, share more or less the same features. Today I just found out the evo 4g just had digital karma Rom updated within the last few months and that phone is ancient. As far as that phone went, sense roms differed GREATLY from one another. Aosp was about the same build no matter who baked it.
I'm not saying there aren't choices, but compared to an almost 5 year old device, this receives less love. But again, the base for jellybean was just recently released so I'll be checking, but it just seems every Rom I've been flashing is about the same.
Unfortunately for me, I'm limited to twiz roms because I need Wi-Fi calling due to poor reception at my house. I understand this is a framework feature, but compared to free alternatives, the tmobile version is hands down best voip option there is it seems.
I didn't rush out to grab this phone, but money at the time was tight and this was all I could afford, I had already gone 3+ months without a phone on Sprint due to the plan being rather pricy age their customer support blows. But in all honesty, this phone isn't too different from its older brother. The pros are so very minimal its really not that big of a difference speed wise. Perhaps more stable, but hardware wise its practically the same
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I was sort of thinking it was leveling off until the official JB was released, and then it exploded. I can't keep track of all the new ROMs, kernel, and tweaks that are coming out daily. It's awesome to own this phone still. I love it.

It might just be me then. Used to another norm. Guess inside I just miss my Evo.
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Naturesretard said:
It might just be me then. Used to another norm. Guess inside I just miss my Evo.
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Then go bakc to it
JELLYBAM™ 7.4.0

Sprint can suck my stick. Customer support was terrible. Not to mention wimax was even worse in both coverage and data speeds
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username2k13 said:
Do you guys like bacon?
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This isn't WoW dude.
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kj2112 said:
This isn't WoW dude.
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I didn't know wow had royalties regarding bacon
But let's keep on topic
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Naturesretard said:
I didn't know wow had royalties regarding bacon
But let's keep on topic
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That statement was even more off topic then bringing up the topic of bacon.
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We have multiple 4.2.2 roms with nightly builds being released. What more do you need?
Pick from either TW or CM base
We dont really need 20 different roms that are the same thing with different theming
Which is all alot of roms are

BenKranged said:
We have multiple 4.2.2 roms with nightly builds being released. What more do you need?
Pick from either TW or CM base
We dont really need 20 different roms that are the same thing with different theming
Which is all alot of roms are
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+1
With this phone it's really simple. Need wifi calling? If no, then go for 4.2.2 any of the popular ones (and we have virtually all of them!!!) are getting into milestones and are imo very stable DD material. Plus lately we've seen some awesome kernels pop up for them.
If you do need wifi calling, then stick with any TW 4.1.2 rom. Now they won't have a whole lot of improvements over stock, because we just got JB and source so give it some time. But soon you will see constant improvements for at least a few months until devs reach the point where there isn't really much to add to the rom...and probably waiting begins for TW 4.2
If you're looking for visual variety then I would suggest alternative launchers, LMT, launcher themes, rom themes, etc. Whether TW, Sense, AOSP, etc there really isn't a limit to how you make your phone feel and look.