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|>>PETITION<<| Restore task650's 'Recognized Developer' Status

So I've decided to start this thread because I've noticed something that I want to try and get changed for the better of this community and to help a person that I think deserves it.
What I'm trying to acomplish here is to start a petition that could potentially get him his status back. He deserves it in my opinion. And for the most part, I think you guys might too. So just place your vote in the pole and try and concentrate on all the work he produces for use and his attitude NOW. Please don't hold on to those grudges if you have any. Thanks.
I just noticed that one of are very Recognized Developers here on XDA (Task650) has recently lost his "Recognized Developer" status. So I decided to take it upon myself to find out why. Task650 explained to me that he recently flew off the handle and went on a "noob hunting spree" as he stated. He openly admitted to me that he was wrong for doing so and mentioned that he felt bad about it. Then went on to tell me that he has just forgotten about it and moved on with doing his best to better the SGS3 Forums and XDA as a whole. It was pretty cool to hear.
I know that he has been dealing with some pretty hardcore emotional issues with his 6 year old little girl having cancer. I can understand that sometimes we go through things in life that are that horrible, and we as human beings can act out in certain places that we normally would not. It's just something that happens and we move on from it. I can see that that's exactly what he has done. His attitude around these forums is back on track with what I've known from him and I only see him contributing and helping everyone out here on XDA as much as he possibly can. I don't think I've ever seen anyone here spend so much time updating his roms, submitting patches, and responding to others in such a helpful manner like I've seen him do. Now that's the exact type of person I believe deserves a "Recognized Developer" status. Hopefully the majority of you will agree whether or not you hold a grudge against him. I know he doesn't hold a grudge against any of you.
I DO NOT WANT ANY TROLLING OR FLAMING IN THIS THREAD! IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY. DON'T POST HERE! YOU WILL BE REPORTED IMMEDIATELY IF YOU DO!!!

Freaking out every once in a while doesn't make him less a developer or take away his skill and generosity of time and effort.
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I agree with everything you just said.
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Everyone goes through tough times and it shows that by owning up to what happened and why and accepting resposibility, then moving on to make things better overall shows he deserves the status back.

I fuxx wit the boiii!!!!! He got dat "celebrity status" roun here...
Cuttn up the bud on my SAMSUNG GALAXY S3.... #KeepIt1Hunid

I agree. He's a fantastic developer, puts out a very high quality ROM; and frankly, if he comes off a bit harsh... its probably something you should have googled. I've learned a ton, just from lurking his thread and asking the occasional question. Development software is essentially beta/testing software, so if you're going to run it... learn.
I flashed half a dozen ROMs to this device before I tried theirs, and now my only flash is for the latest update, which is routinely put out more frequently than any other aosp ROM I've seen.
Task is involved, interested, and more proactive than any paid developer I've ever known, on any platform... and he does gorgeous work for free. Its impossible not to recognize him as a developer, no matter what his title in the forum is.
Edit: didn't know about his kid either.... now I like the guy even more.
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+1. I just started flashing a month ago and Task 14 was my first rom. Great dev, great support, just a reasonable straight up dude. Thanks Task...you deserve it, for simply releasing quality work! Past is the past, simple as that
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He's a great dev and he is only following and enforcing the no spoon feed and always search rule
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I've seen plenty of other developers on XDA and other forums get fed up when people don't search or decide to get an attitude because something isn't working for them or they don't get the response they wanted. Some have even left XDA because of stuff like this. Totally unnecessary. Imagine what this world would be like without Task. Very, very dark. He's only human, most of us wouldn't have half the restraint he does.

Hopefully he'd just start his own site and carry on. We need him more than he needs us.... he's just sharing something great he did for his own satisfaction.
The guy that made my HTC merge bearable till my uscc contract was up did just that.

+1 Task makes the best ROM I've ever used on 5 devices. Amazing guy.
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Task is human.... OK, maybe superhuman, but we all get tired of out of control noobs wallowing in their laziness and/or ineptitude on these forums, asking the same old questions and not reading the OP. I myself am a noob around here, but developers, mods, and fellow xda-ers who chastise those who fail to follow forum rules have helped me realize it's better to do my own homework. I've seen Task's etiquette improve since the incident on the SGS3 AOKP thread, so it's safe to say he is truly sorry and deserves to have his "recognized developer"status reinstated.
And BTW, unicorns dream of Task's ROMs!
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lol wasnt there a "BAN Task" thread to? Good ROMs, quick updates.

I'm 100% with Task.
He could overreact a little bit once but there are some users that push it hard. Push it really hard!!!

122ninjas said:
He's a great dev and he is only following and enforcing the no spoon feed and always search rule
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Eh who cares what title sits under his name. We all recognize him as a good developer and that's all that really matters.
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hallo13th said:
lol wasnt there a "BAN Task" thread to?
Good ROMs, quick updates.
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yeah i think i remember something like that. it was kinda funny considering everyone ended up voted that the OP of that thread get banned. lmao.
is there any particular reason you decided to vote NO?

Part of the rules and he broke them, I think he will get his status back in due time. Good Luck

Jirv311 said:
Eh who cares what title sits under his name. We all recognize him as a good developer and that's all that really matters.
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ok so i work hard too and we might get 1000 noobs in our thread too, you don't see me or anyone of us freaking out. im sorry but yeah things happen in life and mistakes are made, it doesn't mean you dictate what xda will do or will not do. im not against humanity or wheel of life, but if you are short tempered then let the mods do the job, you don't freak out bluntly on a thread like that. Im with what xda decides best. If you really care for him then help him with his work make his life easier, learn things that are done, fix things that can be fixed by yourself and if its a last resort you can raise a question and then if you get freaked out upon then im sorry that dev is either short tempered or life is not being right with him/her, but then again if life is not being right then don't create a UFC in xda cause it'll just splatter blood everywhere and it just doesn't make sense then to do anything. Ive made mistakes too here and yeah i'll admit i was infracted 5 times and yet i learned from those infractions and i learned to control my temper and learn from mistakes and move on. Xda did what they did for a reason and let them decide what they did is right for community and for everyone's well being, if he doesn't have a title of "recognized developer it won't stop him from doing his work. Also for cluttering threads to create a petition doesn't make anyone better, if you wanna voice your opinion then message the mods directly and if mods don't respond then go step above mods to senior mods and so forth. Also if you're planning to bash me because what i said isn't something what you wanna hear or look at then please don't bother because it won't change me, im gonna do my work, and i'll be here at xda everyday and i'll still be living. just my 2 cents.

Battery life thread: which ROM for battery life

I have FreeGS3 with agat's kernel using ktoonservative governor. I'm getting a 8-10hour battery life with medium heavy usage (i think its because of the bad reception here in Puerto rico). How about you guys? I'm trying to find other good setups with touchwiz and good battery life.
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blazer rom . period. i used free gs and its got really cool features but it doesnt feel as good as blazer rom

Sadly, this thread will most likely be locked soon like others that were similar.. tis a hard topic for the simple fact, Everyone uses the phone differently, and has different settings applied to each rom. So it's going to be very difficult to get an accurate measurement.

milky1112 said:
Sadly, this thread will most likely be locked soon like others that were similar.. tis a hard topic for the simple fact, Everyone uses the phone differently, and has different settings applied to each rom. So it's going to be very difficult to get an accurate measurement.
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Well i apologize for the future locking of the thread to the mods. Was not aware of this i dont generally browse Q&A maybe it was the wrong forum (maybe general) to post this at. HOWEVER i will try the blazer rom thanks to nitekillerz over here

Razpr said:
Well i apologize for the future locking of the thread to the mods. Was not aware of this i dont generally browse Q&A maybe it was the wrong forum (maybe general) to post this at. HOWEVER i will try the blazer rom thanks to nitekillerz over here
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It happens a lot. There can be no real "Best" anything because of the variables involved. Some users are gamers and may get different results than a caller/texter or an internet browser user in a good signal area vs. one in a bad signal area. Just read all the tips threads and look for tips in your ROM of choice.
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Thought on the issues cobraboy85 brought up about some kernels in the closed thread.

Before i begin let me say I do appreciate all the devs here....but I want to know if what cobraboy85 brought up about ktoonsez and faux kernel really running at higher/ lower mHz than they are letting us know? Reason being is I love his 747 kernels but would never knowingly run my phone at such a high MHz. I personally feel if we are knowingly be miss lead on what the kernel is OCing our phones to it should be fixed. I wouldn't want to fry my phone from being miss lead. No disrespect to ktoonsez or faux just want an honest answer and thoughts. Thx.
Please don't start a flame war, just want some answers.
Link here>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39309633
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Whatever the case may be, it is vitally important to be able to trust the source of any kernel you use.
Can you? Probably not. I mean, who has the oversight here? Unless you really know what you're doing.. and let's face it, most users don't - they just install some kernel because another user said "use so-and-so's kernel, it's the best!"
There is waaay more to be concerned about when it comes to kernels than the clock speed (not to take away from those concerns, they are also valid, just not a major security risk).
I never use custom kernels. Just no way for me to tell what's really going on under the hood. Think about it.. call recording, statistical/data stealing such as Carrier IQ.. those sort of things tend to be implemented at the kernel level because
a. they have complete access to the entire system
and
b. it's undetectable to the average consumer, and even some of the most savvy individuals.
Not to say any Dev named here or otherwise is dishonest. I have no idea. But to act like we should just shrug our shoulders and "hope for the best" is idiocy.
If it were me, and I were the Dev, I think I would have moved very quickly to put any misinformation to rest and explain.
But I'm not a Dev

I for one am also interested in this. I am using ktoonsez's KT747 kernel because it integrates faux sound which REALLY improves the sound experience. However, my SGS3 is brand new and I paid quite a bit of hard earned $$$ for it, so I am not really interested in OC'ing it just yet until I'm ready.

I'm no developer but I know in Ktweaker there is an option to enable & disable overclocking steps. I have them disabled. While disabled, CPU Spy shows 6 different "1512" frequencies being unused. When enabled, CPU Spy shows the 6 steps above 1512.
It's probably just the way he coded his kernel to be able to enable/disable CPU steps (because I haven't even seen a kernel before where you could enable/disable overclocking steps before). I think there is way too much being made of this.
They aren't criminals or some masterminds bent on world destruction...I feel like if you had just brought it up as a question in faux or ktoonsez development thread like "hey i noticed this in the code does that really mean it's not clocked at what it says its clocked at?" nicely they would have responded to it with an explanation. They are genuinely helpful and answer everyone's questions no matter how rudimentary or repeated they may be.
And I'd bet money on it being a coding quirk, like a shortcut or workaround or a creative way to give us, who remember do not pay these guys a cent, awesome software for our phones. I think Google or Samsung should pay them serious money to develop kernels for them. They should be rich men with the talents they have.
Ktoonsez, faux, if you read this, I'm behind you guys 100%. Don't let some witchunters and attention whores bring you down. My battery life doubled with Ktoonsez's kernel and I thank him for his hard work. Thank you both so much for your work!

Re: Is the issues cobraboy85 brought up about some kernels in the closed thread true?
No ones on a witch hunt and I'm far from an attention whore....just want to know when I set my CPU controller to a certain frequency that's what it set to. I'm running ktoonsez kernel right now and really appreciate all the dev here in our forums.
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Still don't understand why anyone would want to overclock this phone. There is nothing to be gained, except higher benchmarks scores.

Re: Is the issues cobraboy85 brought up about some kernels in the closed thread true?
This thread is complete fail. No one deserves any kind of answer for anything. Both of these devs do this for free. Both do it in their spare time. Both create amazing kernels that I've ran on my phone flawlessly for months.
Even if the clock speeds were inaccurate, who cares? Don't use it. Move on. Whatever. Why so much drama on a development site? These threads are 100 percent disrespectful and if I was smart enough to do what these guys do I would stop sharing my work.
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joemm said:
No ones on a witch hunt and I'm far from an attention whore....just want to know when I set my CPU controller to a certain frequency that's what it set to. I'm running ktoonsez kernel right now and really appreciate all the dev here in our forums.
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I didn't mean you in I actually meant cobraboy85. (sorry! ) It's indeed a legitimate concern, but the way cobraboy85 went about figuring it out was just plain disrespectful.
When somebody finds something that doesn't make sense or seems wrong, the first step is to privately contact the person, even politely on the development thread, about what they find.
If the develpoer tries to cover something up or hide guilt or dodge questions, they bring it up to an admin or another developer to get a second opinion.
If they determine with other people (with experience) in agreement that something wrong is going on, and administration is unable/unwilling to do something about it, only then do you post something like he did.
Instead he just posts a thread and makes accusations. I think that's cowardly and rude and wrong. Now everyone is wondering what's going on and now the reputations of two developers are being dragged through the dirt for no reason. It's just ridiculous to me.

Re: Is the issues cobraboy85 brought up about some kernels in the closed thread true?
The OP is asking a simple question. He is not accusing the developers of anything. If you don't have the answer, feel free to move along. No need for argument. If you really feel that a thread is out of line, use the report button and let the mods decide.
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Re: Is the issues cobraboy85 brought up about some kernels in the closed thread true?
I still think it's not cool to mislead people glad this thread got created. No one is witch hunting and devs already have enough cheerleaders, they should be held accountable too, without consumers there's no devs and vice versa.
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I have this to say. I absolutely do not stand behind forum trolls who are out to make names for themselves, and cause trouble for those who spend of their free time to make our devices better and free from the grips of the garbage software they are released with.
At the same time, I also will not blindly (note the word blindly) follow what developers do and say. This is the reason why we have things like nightlies for CM; so that code is constantly reviewed to ensure they are not only clean, but optimal.
Having said that, I absolutely TRUST 100% more the word of a developer than a troll. And as for ktoonsez and faux, all I know is that their work has made a real-life difference for me. The sound on the SGS3 out of the box is TRASH. I'm a musician and I'm a pure stickler for sound quality; believe me when I say that their work has made the sound 200% better than it was. And for that, I am grateful.
Although it would be nice for the devs to pitch in this thread and just let us know what's up (they really don't have to), I am apt to believe the cobraboy85 is just a whole lot of hot air. If the kernels were indeed overclocking like he claims, my phone would not get better battery life than with stock; it would get magnitudes worse, because the ROI is just not there for 300Mhz more.
So all in all, either our phones are magical enough to stay with the same battery life AND enhancements with these custom kernels, or someone is just looking to make a name for themselves.

Re: Is the issues cobraboy85 brought up about some kernels in the closed thread true?
So you ask a question in general section. Inb4move or lock.
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Just to add my 2 cents here...does not all CPU checking apps report 1512Mhz when you set to no overclocking? Kernel source has ALWAYS been freely available as per GPL so no one here on this site is deceiving anyone. Also I have never had a problem with kernel devs answering my questions. If you post a question and in general no less, do you really think the developer is going to see it? As pointed out earlier, a respectful post in the kernel thread would have gotten you the same answer I got from KT last night...no...when set to 1512 your phone runs at 1512.

Re: Is the issues cobraboy85 brought up about some kernels in the closed thread true?
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Just to add my 2 cents here...does not all CPU checking apps report 1512Mhz when you set to no overclocking? Kernel source has ALWAYS been freely available as per GPL so no one here on this site is deceiving anyone. Also I have never had a problem with kernel devs answering my questions. If you post a question and in general no less, do you really think the developer is going to see it? As pointed out earlier, a respectful post in the kernel thread would have gotten you the same answer I got from KT last night...no...when set to 1512 your phone runs at 1512.
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Please read the original thread so you would know what I am talking about....it was brought up that the cpu controller app will show 1512 is running but in reality the kernel is really running a higher frequency. Thanks.
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joemm said:
Please read the original thread so you would know what I am talking about....it was brought up that the cpu controller app will show 1512 is running but in reality the kernel is really running a higher frequency. Thanks.
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So there is no app that can measure the true speed?
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So there is no app that can measure the true speed?
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I don't know I guess that's what I'm asking is can you spoof the controlling apps? And if you can I'm just saying I'd like to know what my phone is really running.
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joemm said:
I don't know I guess that's what I'm asking is can you spoof the controlling apps? And if you can I'm just saying I'd like to know what my phone is really running.
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Sounds like a great question sir. Hopefully someone can tell us how the apps measure speed and if there is a true test app. I do know that Samsung hugely underclocks these phones to give a compromise between battery life and speed. Personal experience is that I get better battery life on the Sprint KT TW kernel than I do on stock. That wouldn't happen if I was at 1.8Ghz instead of 1.5.
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kennyglass123 said:
Sounds like a great question sir. Hopefully someone can tell us how the apps measure speed and if there is a true test app. I do know that Samsung hugely underclocks these phones to give a compromise between battery life and speed. Personal experience is that I get better battery life on the Sprint KT TW kernel than I do on stock. That wouldn't happen if I was at 1.8Ghz instead of 1.5.
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I feel the same....by far best battery life with KT's kernel. And it would make sense if it was really running at 1.8 we probably wouldn't be getting such great battery life.
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Cobraboy has always been a troll and a douche so don't take what he says too seriously
He doesn't even own a gs3. He comes here to troll and cause trouble.
Your going to trust a guy who's profile pic on a phone forum is him with his shirt off?
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KT747
Ok guys, kenny brought this and the SUPER rude thread to my attention so I am responding. Let me start off by saying I NEVER knowingly mislead anyone and sorry a bunch of you feel I jipped and mislead you!
The table the original thread posted about is only about 1 tenth of the code. Here is snippit of code that regulates the table size (again only a little piece)
Code:
int get_the_freq_table(int cnt, int steps[]) {
if (acpu_freq_tbl == NULL)
return 0;
int real_cnt=FREQ_STEPS;
int i= 0;
//if (isenable_oc == 0)
// real_cnt = real_cnt - FREQ_TABLE_SIZE_OFFSET;
for (i = 0; i < real_cnt; i++) {
steps[i] = acpu_freq_tbl[i+1].speed.khz;
}
return real_cnt;
}
Important piece here is FREQ_STEPS = 24 thus not using the other steps which are mearly placeholders for people that are gonna use the OC steps.
As far as the math on the OC, that is my bad for not checking the math. To be totally honest, we were all new to the QCOM chipset back in June/July of last year and kanged from the same XDA dev, not gonna put blame on that person. So in conclusion, yes the 2106mhz after I examined it after seeing that post was indeed lower due to following the original incorrect math. Also it turns out the Sammy original 384 Mhz is not even possible when you try the following simple math:
384,000 / 27,000 = 14.2222222222222222222222
So again, let me reiterate, I NEVER knowly lied to say its going faster or going faster than it is telling you and sorry for the confusion on the OC :good:

Best kernel and rom combinations?

Hey all, wondering what everyone's opinions are for the best kernel and rom combinations out there. I'm mainly looking for solid performance with good battery life, but then again, who isn't?
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phones are like people, no two devices are exactly the same. what works well for me may not even boot up for you. therefore, questions such as these, are impossible to answer, because every device works and behaves differently. the only way to figure out the best ROM and kernel combination for your device, is to try them all.
not every device is treated the same way, just like people.

Yup, but to add to it, everyone wants solid performance and great battery, but everyone uses the phone differntly, so in every aspect, there's just no good reliable way to answer questions like this.
They can also prompt flame wars between loyal rom users which is one reason why these threads always get closed. Sorry, but you just have to research what offers you what you want, then test it out for yourself if it actually does what you want.
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See above, "best" is in the eye of the beholder...
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What's better? ICS or JB?

I'm trying to move on from gingerbread? what is better?stability?performance?battery life? I know gaming performance of gingerbread is superior to these two. And what rom would be great? + kernel?

XDA doesn't allow the discussion of "best" ROMs and Kernels e.t.c.
It might not be one but is a correlated thing to it.
You just try some yourself
It all comes to personal preference.
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I mean cm9 vs cm10 xD which is more stabler here.

This is part of a sticky in the General section
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These threads/posts will be deleted promptly and without warning. They have a history of causing problems due to trolls, fanboys, and various troublemakers, and therefore are no longer allowed. Regardless, there is really no way to judge whether or not a particular piece of work is better than another because it's all relative to begin with. If you want to know what piece of work is better for you, install something and try it out for a while. If you don't like it, try something else. Our Developers work hard to provide us their contributions, free of charge. Please show them the respect they deserve by trying something out and giving them your feedback.
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