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I'm on Franco with aokp milestone 4. Personally I think the battery life is rancid. Any better options?
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Musik847 said:
I'm on Franco with aokp milestone 4. Personally I think the battery life is rancid. Any better options?
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Try a few....
The good thing about this part of xda is that people don't make a big fuss if someone makes this kind of post. Unlike the Galaxy S II forums.
I use Foxhound 0.2 and franco.kernel. Lasts me the entire day from 8am to 12am.
nicholaschum said:
The good thing about this part of xda is that people don't make a big fuss if someone makes this kind of post. Unlike the Galaxy S II forums.
I use Foxhound 0.2 and franco.kernel. Lasts me the entire day from 8am to 12am.
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I thought the good thing about this part of xda was that people didn't make these kind of threads. The nexus s forum was riddled with this kind of thing.
Is it so hard to look through rom and kernel threads and read peoples posts.
Why should people get answers without making the effort to find out on their own.
It only takes a few clicks.
running the leaked 4.0.4 with the latest lean kernel and its the best battery life i have seen yet . All radios and bootloader updated as well. Lean kernel settings , hotplugx , 1200-350 , standard voltage that comes with the kernel
No one has made any sort of test or extensive trial of the kernel and rom combinations for best battery life.
For my usage franco.kernel nightly 98 is working perfectly well with Liquid rom, but that might be different for your uses, and it might be different because you like to undervolt, or overclock and undervolt, and you use different programs in the background. etc.. etc.. etc.
If you would like to know the best combo, try them all and do tests. Maybe write it all down and come back. Hopefully nobody would have changed their rom or kernels in the meantime.
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I thought the good thing about this part of xda was that people didn't make these kind of threads. The nexus s forum was riddled with this kind of thing.
Is it so hard to look through rom and kernel threads and read peoples posts.
Why should people get answers without making the effort to find out on their own.
It only takes a few clicks.
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Nah, it's about time this forum will get clustered with these kinds of posts because more people are buying the phone and think they are so important that they need to make a new thread dedicated to their phone. As said in my sig, I encourage people to use search whenever possible, but I'm not the kind of person to diss another person when they don't use it
I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.
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I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.
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And this is exactly why this kind of thread is pointless.
X amount of ppl think Franco has good battery.
Someone posts here saying it doesn't.
Who is wrong? No-one.
Its all about the user. Plain and simple. Everyone's habits are different.
I wasn't dissing the guy, my first post said it all "try a few"
You will never know which kernel is the best until you try them yourself.
Half the fun of xda is flashing and trying new ****!
WiredPirate said:
I read several posts stating franco.kernel was good for battery life so I have been using it, but in my experience of the past couple weeks this is not true at all; I definitely do not get better battery life out of franco.kernel.
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Same for me, in addition to other problems when running his kernels
The best combination I have tried so far is BAMF Paradigm ROM and Popcorn kernel. Using the gali something or other governor with just a few changes to it speedup.
Ooookay, I wasn't going to reply to similar thread, but since no one seems to be throwing out suggestions, here's mine from yesterday. There's more in that thread.
I looked to find a similar thread but i didnt see one.
I have been reading in different posts where people have mentioned how their battery life has been with combinations of roms and kernels. I would like to know everyones opinion and their results. From my test and observations, i lose around 10% and hour on my galaxy nexus (gsm version). I seem to get around the same amount of battery life if i use jb or a ics rom. I have seen people claiming they lose 5% an hour and even 1% an hour. Also if you would include any apps you use that seem to help with battery life. Thanks.
This is a small sample of battery life threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743724
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736354
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728855
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706602
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694788
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690913
also, this should go in QA.
please use search next time
Most of these threads are closed because no one wants to help. The thread gets closed before it has a chance to get going. Im trying to get a decent thread going where people post what works best for them. That isnt on here that ive seen. I know its a matter of process of elimination but im just curious.
they get abandoned because there are a billion "which rom/kernel get the best battery life' threads.
seriously. try them out.. there is no 'ZOMG THE BEST ROM/KERNEL COMBO EVAR!'
There's a reason why those threads ramble on then get closed. Battery life is extremely subjective.
I have tried them. I know what im doing with kernels and roms as far as testing and flashing. Im just curious what has worked out for other people. I am a flashaholic, i just think it would be interesting to see what other people are using.
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there's a reason why those threads ramble on then get closed. Battery life is extremely subjective.
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i should have named this something different. Im wanting to hear what everybodys using
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i should have named this something different. Im wanting to hear what everybodys using
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you'll hear every combination possible... so what was the point of the thread?
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you'll hear every combination possible... so what was the point of the thread?
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Precisely. Not to mention that a vast majority of the differences are just placebo effect.
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you'll hear every combination possible... So what was the point of the thread?
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i know and thats what i want. The point of this thread is for people to post what they are using. Period.
Nevermind. I will create a new thread and reword it. Can this thread be closed?
and it will get closed.
read the response from the mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27860169&postcount=4
As has been mentioned before, it's all personal preference. Something others have done in the past, that is welcomed, was testing each ROM/kernel for things like battery life, linpack scores or anything else measurable.
Thread Closed.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10m8gZKop9IPFhIsdMwjRxyXlpetCVwaemhNh27q8Pu8/viewform
just an example. 5 minutes in google docs. That will help me and other users. Is that really hard to make and attach to big main thread?
Stock is always best. I personally think the extra features in custom roms are worth the slightly less battery life.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
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Wow... Unless something is lost in translation, it sounds like you really aren't interested in what XDA-Developers is all about. While there are numerous knowledgeable folks here who will happily help others and answer questions, it's not a place to drop in and have people serve up just what you want to know on demand. If the answer to your question were truly a "cut and dried" affair, then you'd likely see some information in the Wiki listing "the best ROM / kernel combination for battery life", and all of the conversations and ROM / kernel experiments and tweaks relating to that topic would be moot. But that's simply not the case. "Best" will differ across users and configurations, depending on usage patterns, installed apps, strength of 3G / 4G / Wi-Fi signals throughout the user's day, etc. Whether or not you, personally, care about the feature sets that custom ROMs offer, most of the folks here do, in fact, care -- and that's why many of us are here. That's why the developers put in countless hours researching, developing, testing and tweaking their ROMs, kernels and utilities.
Finding "the best" will be a different search for each user, based on unique circumstances and interests. That's why it's so great that there are, in fact, so many choices here. But making the best use of the site requires that you be willing to read the discussions, do some searching, and then perhaps ask questions in various discussion threads that will help you find out what you hope to learn. If you're not willing to do that, and if you dismiss 90% of the development effort here as being pointless, I'd suggest that you probably won't find what you're looking for here.
Battery life is what it is on the Galaxy Nexus. I havent really seen THAT big of a difference with all the ROM/Kernel combos I have tried. Its the phone itself. If you have that big of a problem with it, I suggest getting an extended battery or a new phone.
You're right. You should take your questions to those forums. If you think any policies are going to change just because you complain about them you are clearly not the type of member XDA is intended for.
Jesus dude stay stock and quit wasting everyone's time with useless threads.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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Okay I just wasted my time for reading that....
hmmm..
What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
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Nobody tells you that you must try every ROM.
What's the difference of all the ROMs for Nexus:
- Another "ROM developer"
- Different features
- Different look
- Different experience
- Etc..
If you like to complain about the things then put even your thread to Q&A section!! -_-
I am using my modified STOCK Android ROM and battery life is great so stop complaining and use Android phone with stock Android OS or go to use iPhone with the same firmware which almost everyone iPhone user uses..
And also Battery life doesn't just depend of "Kernel", also many other things affects to battery life.
that was a difficult read. so i didn't
My suggestion go with a ROM that is pretty much stock AOSP, and not AOKP in your case. Stick with a ROM like KALO's that is just basically the AOSP Stock ROM with almost no mods, if you worried about battery life.
I mean we could tell you but we'd have to kill you and that's against the XDA rules.
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go buy a flip phone
First of all "castom" isn't even a word. It's CUSTOM. Second, it's not really a good idea for noobs to take it upon themselves to blast people like you just did. This is a DEVELOPMENT forum. Just because YOU think a ROM is useless doesn't make it so. And seriously, if a MOD thinks a thread needs to be closed, it's closed. Period. Again, just because YOU think it shouldn't be doesn't make it so. Finally, don't expect to be spoon fed here. It's not tolerated well, and "Tell me the best ROM" threads generally aren't either if I remember correctly. The best way to learn is to read read read. There is a wealth of info here. Most people figure out the best ROM for them by reading and testing.
Chill out and start educating yourself on what this forum is all about.
lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...MTV6NXJQUHFCMTF1bTZtYjc5MXc&usp=sharing#gid=0
sorry guys. Found that.
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Lola.. this dude is funny.. Blasting people because he don't know to get good battery life instead of learning and trying different things.. Cm10.1 m2 and lean kernel. 3.5 screen on time Is plenty for me. Don't blast devs hard work that they do for free just because your lazy to learn.
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Wow he really went on a rant there. This place is full of great information. I say go buy a flip phone or be ready for some trial and error. Every phone is different, even if it is the same model every phone is different. What works for me may not work for you and vice versa. If you can spend a lot of time customizing then you can spend some time figuring out how to get better battery life.
3 to 4 hrs screen time for a phone that's got more CPU and ram than my first computer......not bad
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Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
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Sandman-007 said:
Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
Toro | Xylon | AK Diamond
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You're about a month late to the chastising.
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b1337 said:
go buy a flip phone
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Flip phones are pretty nifty these days I hear!
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I have a rooted GNEX with CM 10.1 installed.
My phone gets very hot on the back side when I use the internet. Is there a solution to this? Also the battery life is not as good as it was on ICS.
Thanks.
Before i begin let me say I do appreciate all the devs here....but I want to know if what cobraboy85 brought up about ktoonsez and faux kernel really running at higher/ lower mHz than they are letting us know? Reason being is I love his 747 kernels but would never knowingly run my phone at such a high MHz. I personally feel if we are knowingly be miss lead on what the kernel is OCing our phones to it should be fixed. I wouldn't want to fry my phone from being miss lead. No disrespect to ktoonsez or faux just want an honest answer and thoughts. Thx.
Please don't start a flame war, just want some answers.
Link here>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39309633
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Whatever the case may be, it is vitally important to be able to trust the source of any kernel you use.
Can you? Probably not. I mean, who has the oversight here? Unless you really know what you're doing.. and let's face it, most users don't - they just install some kernel because another user said "use so-and-so's kernel, it's the best!"
There is waaay more to be concerned about when it comes to kernels than the clock speed (not to take away from those concerns, they are also valid, just not a major security risk).
I never use custom kernels. Just no way for me to tell what's really going on under the hood. Think about it.. call recording, statistical/data stealing such as Carrier IQ.. those sort of things tend to be implemented at the kernel level because
a. they have complete access to the entire system
and
b. it's undetectable to the average consumer, and even some of the most savvy individuals.
Not to say any Dev named here or otherwise is dishonest. I have no idea. But to act like we should just shrug our shoulders and "hope for the best" is idiocy.
If it were me, and I were the Dev, I think I would have moved very quickly to put any misinformation to rest and explain.
But I'm not a Dev
I for one am also interested in this. I am using ktoonsez's KT747 kernel because it integrates faux sound which REALLY improves the sound experience. However, my SGS3 is brand new and I paid quite a bit of hard earned $$$ for it, so I am not really interested in OC'ing it just yet until I'm ready.
I'm no developer but I know in Ktweaker there is an option to enable & disable overclocking steps. I have them disabled. While disabled, CPU Spy shows 6 different "1512" frequencies being unused. When enabled, CPU Spy shows the 6 steps above 1512.
It's probably just the way he coded his kernel to be able to enable/disable CPU steps (because I haven't even seen a kernel before where you could enable/disable overclocking steps before). I think there is way too much being made of this.
They aren't criminals or some masterminds bent on world destruction...I feel like if you had just brought it up as a question in faux or ktoonsez development thread like "hey i noticed this in the code does that really mean it's not clocked at what it says its clocked at?" nicely they would have responded to it with an explanation. They are genuinely helpful and answer everyone's questions no matter how rudimentary or repeated they may be.
And I'd bet money on it being a coding quirk, like a shortcut or workaround or a creative way to give us, who remember do not pay these guys a cent, awesome software for our phones. I think Google or Samsung should pay them serious money to develop kernels for them. They should be rich men with the talents they have.
Ktoonsez, faux, if you read this, I'm behind you guys 100%. Don't let some witchunters and attention whores bring you down. My battery life doubled with Ktoonsez's kernel and I thank him for his hard work. Thank you both so much for your work!
Re: Is the issues cobraboy85 brought up about some kernels in the closed thread true?
No ones on a witch hunt and I'm far from an attention whore....just want to know when I set my CPU controller to a certain frequency that's what it set to. I'm running ktoonsez kernel right now and really appreciate all the dev here in our forums.
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Still don't understand why anyone would want to overclock this phone. There is nothing to be gained, except higher benchmarks scores.
Re: Is the issues cobraboy85 brought up about some kernels in the closed thread true?
This thread is complete fail. No one deserves any kind of answer for anything. Both of these devs do this for free. Both do it in their spare time. Both create amazing kernels that I've ran on my phone flawlessly for months.
Even if the clock speeds were inaccurate, who cares? Don't use it. Move on. Whatever. Why so much drama on a development site? These threads are 100 percent disrespectful and if I was smart enough to do what these guys do I would stop sharing my work.
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joemm said:
No ones on a witch hunt and I'm far from an attention whore....just want to know when I set my CPU controller to a certain frequency that's what it set to. I'm running ktoonsez kernel right now and really appreciate all the dev here in our forums.
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I didn't mean you in I actually meant cobraboy85. (sorry! ) It's indeed a legitimate concern, but the way cobraboy85 went about figuring it out was just plain disrespectful.
When somebody finds something that doesn't make sense or seems wrong, the first step is to privately contact the person, even politely on the development thread, about what they find.
If the develpoer tries to cover something up or hide guilt or dodge questions, they bring it up to an admin or another developer to get a second opinion.
If they determine with other people (with experience) in agreement that something wrong is going on, and administration is unable/unwilling to do something about it, only then do you post something like he did.
Instead he just posts a thread and makes accusations. I think that's cowardly and rude and wrong. Now everyone is wondering what's going on and now the reputations of two developers are being dragged through the dirt for no reason. It's just ridiculous to me.
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The OP is asking a simple question. He is not accusing the developers of anything. If you don't have the answer, feel free to move along. No need for argument. If you really feel that a thread is out of line, use the report button and let the mods decide.
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Re: Is the issues cobraboy85 brought up about some kernels in the closed thread true?
I still think it's not cool to mislead people glad this thread got created. No one is witch hunting and devs already have enough cheerleaders, they should be held accountable too, without consumers there's no devs and vice versa.
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I have this to say. I absolutely do not stand behind forum trolls who are out to make names for themselves, and cause trouble for those who spend of their free time to make our devices better and free from the grips of the garbage software they are released with.
At the same time, I also will not blindly (note the word blindly) follow what developers do and say. This is the reason why we have things like nightlies for CM; so that code is constantly reviewed to ensure they are not only clean, but optimal.
Having said that, I absolutely TRUST 100% more the word of a developer than a troll. And as for ktoonsez and faux, all I know is that their work has made a real-life difference for me. The sound on the SGS3 out of the box is TRASH. I'm a musician and I'm a pure stickler for sound quality; believe me when I say that their work has made the sound 200% better than it was. And for that, I am grateful.
Although it would be nice for the devs to pitch in this thread and just let us know what's up (they really don't have to), I am apt to believe the cobraboy85 is just a whole lot of hot air. If the kernels were indeed overclocking like he claims, my phone would not get better battery life than with stock; it would get magnitudes worse, because the ROI is just not there for 300Mhz more.
So all in all, either our phones are magical enough to stay with the same battery life AND enhancements with these custom kernels, or someone is just looking to make a name for themselves.
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So you ask a question in general section. Inb4move or lock.
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Just to add my 2 cents here...does not all CPU checking apps report 1512Mhz when you set to no overclocking? Kernel source has ALWAYS been freely available as per GPL so no one here on this site is deceiving anyone. Also I have never had a problem with kernel devs answering my questions. If you post a question and in general no less, do you really think the developer is going to see it? As pointed out earlier, a respectful post in the kernel thread would have gotten you the same answer I got from KT last night...no...when set to 1512 your phone runs at 1512.
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Just to add my 2 cents here...does not all CPU checking apps report 1512Mhz when you set to no overclocking? Kernel source has ALWAYS been freely available as per GPL so no one here on this site is deceiving anyone. Also I have never had a problem with kernel devs answering my questions. If you post a question and in general no less, do you really think the developer is going to see it? As pointed out earlier, a respectful post in the kernel thread would have gotten you the same answer I got from KT last night...no...when set to 1512 your phone runs at 1512.
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Please read the original thread so you would know what I am talking about....it was brought up that the cpu controller app will show 1512 is running but in reality the kernel is really running a higher frequency. Thanks.
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joemm said:
Please read the original thread so you would know what I am talking about....it was brought up that the cpu controller app will show 1512 is running but in reality the kernel is really running a higher frequency. Thanks.
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So there is no app that can measure the true speed?
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So there is no app that can measure the true speed?
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I don't know I guess that's what I'm asking is can you spoof the controlling apps? And if you can I'm just saying I'd like to know what my phone is really running.
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I don't know I guess that's what I'm asking is can you spoof the controlling apps? And if you can I'm just saying I'd like to know what my phone is really running.
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Sounds like a great question sir. Hopefully someone can tell us how the apps measure speed and if there is a true test app. I do know that Samsung hugely underclocks these phones to give a compromise between battery life and speed. Personal experience is that I get better battery life on the Sprint KT TW kernel than I do on stock. That wouldn't happen if I was at 1.8Ghz instead of 1.5.
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Sounds like a great question sir. Hopefully someone can tell us how the apps measure speed and if there is a true test app. I do know that Samsung hugely underclocks these phones to give a compromise between battery life and speed. Personal experience is that I get better battery life on the Sprint KT TW kernel than I do on stock. That wouldn't happen if I was at 1.8Ghz instead of 1.5.
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I feel the same....by far best battery life with KT's kernel. And it would make sense if it was really running at 1.8 we probably wouldn't be getting such great battery life.
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Cobraboy has always been a troll and a douche so don't take what he says too seriously
He doesn't even own a gs3. He comes here to troll and cause trouble.
Your going to trust a guy who's profile pic on a phone forum is him with his shirt off?
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Ok guys, kenny brought this and the SUPER rude thread to my attention so I am responding. Let me start off by saying I NEVER knowingly mislead anyone and sorry a bunch of you feel I jipped and mislead you!
The table the original thread posted about is only about 1 tenth of the code. Here is snippit of code that regulates the table size (again only a little piece)
Code:
int get_the_freq_table(int cnt, int steps[]) {
if (acpu_freq_tbl == NULL)
return 0;
int real_cnt=FREQ_STEPS;
int i= 0;
//if (isenable_oc == 0)
// real_cnt = real_cnt - FREQ_TABLE_SIZE_OFFSET;
for (i = 0; i < real_cnt; i++) {
steps[i] = acpu_freq_tbl[i+1].speed.khz;
}
return real_cnt;
}
Important piece here is FREQ_STEPS = 24 thus not using the other steps which are mearly placeholders for people that are gonna use the OC steps.
As far as the math on the OC, that is my bad for not checking the math. To be totally honest, we were all new to the QCOM chipset back in June/July of last year and kanged from the same XDA dev, not gonna put blame on that person. So in conclusion, yes the 2106mhz after I examined it after seeing that post was indeed lower due to following the original incorrect math. Also it turns out the Sammy original 384 Mhz is not even possible when you try the following simple math:
384,000 / 27,000 = 14.2222222222222222222222
So again, let me reiterate, I NEVER knowly lied to say its going faster or going faster than it is telling you and sorry for the confusion on the OC :good:
The selection of ROMs available is a bit overwhelming. Which one should I be using?
Stock? (Rooted ofcourse)
SuperZen?
Prism?
CM12.1?
Slim?
Omni?
Carbon?
Euphoria?
Paranoid?
And don't say flash them and see for yourself. I don't HAVE TIME to flash all of them, nor am I remotely interested in tinkering with the settings on each and every ROM. I just want to get the best value out of my phone. Aesthetics aside, do they have any notable key differences between them such as stability, performance, battery life, memory usage, or are they all relatively equivalent in that department?
I feel this thread will get flammed.
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jason4962 said:
I feel this thread will get flammed.
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Why? Are less experienced members not allowed to inquire the more experienced members here?
Using PA, and I never had a 2.3 GB free on my RAM since I bought this phone!
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I tried CM12.1, but there were annoying bugs for me, the phone got warm and battery life was bad.
I went to SuperZen and everything is pretty much like Stock, not much difference other than not having to disable and hide as many apps.
I really wish this phone had better battery life.
scala_ said:
Why? Are less experienced members not allowed to inquire the more experienced members here?
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Yes they are, but best Rom, best kernel threads are frowned upon. All the developers here give their work for free and all strive to provide the best possible software. So in this case comparison equals criticism. You really need to decide what you want and make your decision based on your own reading of the respective threads.
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corrsea said:
Yes they are, but best Rom, best kernel threads are frowned upon. All the developers here give their work for free and all strive to provide the best possible software. So in this case comparison equals criticism. You really need to decide what you want and make your decision based on your own reading of the respective threads.
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Exactly!
Also, the best rom for one person may not be the best for someone else. Everyone uses their device differently, so there's really no other way to know what will work the best other than trying out a few.
Also, you may want to have a look at the sticky threads. (sorry mods, I'll get out of the back seat now)....
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Engr.Jymie said:
Using PA, and I never had a 2.3 GB free on my RAM since I bought this phone!
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i see windows user here. Tell me, why do you buy a 4gb of ram phone if your system uses only 2gb? Android has good ram managment and i love to see 200 mb free ram, then i know it's worth. It's like buying a ferrari car for 20 kmph on country roads.
You didn't understand it, haha, Imagine this, when I'm in the stock ROM, my free RAM is always less than 1GB, then here you are saying it only consume half.
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You should try SlimLP, there aren't any bugs so far, and you get this for your SOT(if you use it efficiently)
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At this state, most ROMS are almost identical. Only a couple have the actual ROM's features. Our PA doesn't have hover/peek (yet). I think only Slim Rom and Team EOS have their features activated. But most (CM based) ROMS have the same bugs.
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Yes they are, but best Rom, best kernel threads are frowned upon. All the developers here give their work for free and all strive to provide the best possible software. So in this case comparison equals criticism. You really need to decide what you want and make your decision based on your own reading of the respective threads.
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I don't see the harm in criticism, so long as it's constructive. If I was developing a product, and my work wasn't up to par with what the people wanted, I feel it would be a disservice to myself and to others to blatantly shun / ignore criticism that could possibly help me develop a superior product.
Are people here really that thin skinned?
Devhux said:
Exactly!
Also, the best rom for one person may not be the best for someone else. Everyone uses their device differently, so there's really no other way to know what will work the best other than trying out a few.
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That may be the case, however, if you read my OP, I clearly state that I am looking for user feedback on KEY differences between the ROMs which affect EVERY single ZenFone2 user (if any exist at all?). Ntrasme just stated that they are all basically identical at this point. Can anyone else testify/confirm that?
Personally, I've tried a few of the CM12.1 derived ROMs myself and did not notice any major differences between them other than a few slight aesthetic changes, which makes me wonder if there is any legitimate reason as to why I should use one over the other
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That may be the case, however, if you read my OP, I clearly state that I am looking for user feedback on KEY differences between the ROMs which affect EVERY single ZenFone2 user (if any exist at all?). Ntrasme just stated that they are all basically identical at this point. Can anyone else testify/confirm that?
Personally, I've tried a few of the CM12.1 derived ROMs myself and did not notice any major differences between them other than a few slight aesthetic changes, which makes me wonder if there is any legitimate reason as to why I should use one over the other
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Literally every ROM will be useful to different people.
Install a ROM. Decide if you like it. OR YOU CAN ACTUALLY READ THROUGH EACH ROMS THREAD. Please do not clutter the forum with this type of post. It is completely unnecessary. The ROM that works well for me may not work for you. Features I may love, you may have no use for. Literally just spend a few hours or days reading reading reading and more reading up on all these ROMs, and install ones you think will work. You will not receive an answer you are looking for here.
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Literally every ROM will be useful to different people.
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And yet, certain aspects between ROMs are universal to all people.
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Install a ROM. Decide if you like it. OR YOU CAN ACTUALLY READ THROUGH EACH ROMS THREAD. Please do not clutter the forum with this type of post. It is completely unnecessary.
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Not unnecessary if you actually comprehend and understand what I'm asking about. Re-read my post kthx.
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The ROM that works well for me may not work for you. Features I may love, you may have no use for.
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Re-read my post please. Features, bells and whistles between ROMs are one thing, however, key differences such as performance, stability, memory usage, battery life, etc. are another, which I feel are not nearly as subjective as what you are trying to suggest.
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And yet, certain aspects between ROMs are universal to all people.
Not unnecessary if you actually comprehend and understand what I'm asking about. Re-read my post kthx.
Re-read my post please. Features, bells and whistles between ROMs are one thing, however, key differences such as performance, stability, memory usage, battery life, etc. are another, which I feel are not nearly as subjective as what you are trying to suggest.
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To be honest you have to deside for yourself. No time to flash is not a reason at all. We are all busy and yet spend some time to flash and find our own perfect roms. Developers spend 10x more of that time to bring us FREE rom to flash. Ill give you an example. Says rom #1 is my best rom. i love it give me the best battery life i wanted but it lags here and there which for me its fine. But for a power user. Someone who play games or someone with lots of apps may find it annoying to have lag here and there. And might not care so much about battery therfor labeling the rom not his/her favorite. My setup is unrooted. Looked bootloader. I hate my sot but i have quick chargers at my work. Homr and car. So im good lol
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scala_ said:
And yet, certain aspects between ROMs are universal to all people.
Not unnecessary if you actually comprehend and understand what I'm asking about. Re-read my post kthx.
Re-read my post please. Features, bells and whistles between ROMs are one thing, however, key differences such as performance, stability, memory usage, battery life, etc. are another, which I feel are not nearly as subjective as what you are trying to suggest.
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Oh, I've read your post. And your answers are already all over the dev sections of this forum. Each rom has its own thread, in which users discuss said rom. There you will find people talking about stability, memory usage, etc.
Every.single.one.of.those.is.answered.
Not only in each respective forum, but in your thread. You've already been told. You just didn't like the answer. You are cluttering up the forum.
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Oh, I've read your post. And your answers are already all over the dev sections of this forum. Each rom has its own thread, in which users discuss said rom. There you will find people talking about stability, memory usage, etc.
Every.single.one.of.those.is.answered.
Not only in each respective forum, but in your thread. You've already been told. You just didn't like the answer. You are cluttering up the forum.
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Nah, I've looked through each and every one of those threads and clearly it didn't contain the information or answers I was looking for. For one, I've yet to see honest, unbiased and fair comparisons on the key differences between the ROMs. Just because you personally don't find a certain topic of discussion useful doesn't make it clutter. With that said, if you feel my thread clutters the forum, maybe you should stop contributing to the "clutter".
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Nah, I've looked through each and every one of those threads and clearly it didn't contain the information or answers I was looking for. For one, I've yet to see honest, unbiased and fair comparisons on the key differences between the ROMs. Just because you personally don't find a certain topic of discussion useful doesn't make it clutter. With that said, if you feel my thread clutters the forum, maybe you should stop contributing to the "clutter".
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Here is a video a MOD made back in 2012 that describes how to use the search bar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snf0UOVik0M
What specific questions about CM do you have? Post that in the CM Q/A thread
What specific questions about SlimLP do you have? Post that in the SlimLP Q/A thread
honest, unbiased comparison? So if JoeSchmoe XDA user just says "Oh, I'm unbiased", does that mean you'd believe them? Don't look for a comparision guide; Instead, look at threads and/or websites of EACH rom you are considering, and they will tell you every nook and cranny of that rom. Then, you can make an informed decision about which rom to try FIRST. Don't like it? Pick another.
You are not the first, nor the last, to post this exact thread here for the Zenfone 2, even though the phone is barely a few months old.
If you cannot take the time to gain knowledge on the process and the differences of the roms yourself, you should not be attempting to flash a custom firmware.
We are all here for the love of development and technology.
I suggest that if you want a perfect rom, that is the best of all worlds, that you take up programming and show us all how superior you are. :good:
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Instead, look at threads and/or websites of EACH rom you are considering, and they will tell you every nook and cranny of that rom.
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Not true. Alot of the ROMs are still in testing, and even the devs dont even know every nook and cranny on wtf is going on. Reason I started this thread is to figure out core differences. Usually there is a de facto consensus on what is the best ROM to use on a device, but with ZF2 apparently that's not the case as each ROM is basically equivalent / derived from one another.
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We are all here for the love of development and technology.
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so what if i told you there were people here who just want the best option for their phone, and could actually benefit from a comparison guide between the list of ROMs, because *GOD FORBID* they could careless about investing their time into the development and tech side of things because:
a) they have actual jobs.
b) a life.
c) would rather spend that time trying to get laid instead of nerding it out.