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Sprint reportedly plans to dump LightSquared partnership

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DG News Service - Sprint Nextel will drop its planned 15-year 4G network partnership with would-be hybrid network operator LightSquared, the Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday.
The end of the Sprint partnership, which was due to expire on Thursday, would be nearly as big a blow to the foundering LightSquared as the U.S. Federal Communications Commission's proposal last month to revoke the carrier's authorization to build a land-based network.
Since the deal was announced last July, Sprint had been planning to host LightSquared's radio spectrum on its Network Vision infrastructure. LightSquared was to pay Sprint US$9 billion in cash for that hosting and said the plan would save it $13 billion over eight years.
For its part, Sprint had looked to the partnership for extra spectrum on which to run its own planned LTE network. It would get $4.5 billion worth of credits to use some of LightSquared's spectrum in addition to its own and that of longtime partner Clearwire. Sprint extended the deal twice to give LightSquared more time to win FCC approval for its network.
Sprint will terminate the LightSquared deal on Friday and return $65 million in prepayments by LightSquared, according to the Journal.
In moving to kill LightSquared's plan, the FCC cited tests it said showed harmful interference between the proposed network and GPS. Since the public notice of its proposal, which was followed by a public comment period that ends this week, two other carrier partners -- FreedomPop and Cricket -- have signed up with Clearwire for wholesale LTE capacity.
Meanwhile, LightSquared has been positioning itself for a possible legal battle that may be its only hope to resurrect its network plans. On Wednesday, the company said it had hired two prominent Washington lawyers. On Friday, the company is expected to file its own comments on the FCC's plan.
Link http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...rtedly_plans_to_dump_LightSquared_partnership

Expected this, it doesn't affect Network Vision and Sprint's rollout of their LTE so I don't really care.

tommydaniel said:
Expected this, it doesn't affect Network Vision and Sprint's rollout of their LTE so I don't really care.
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I beg to differ. It may not affect their initial LTE rollout, but Sprint is in a bit of trouble. They desperately need extra spectrum for their LTE network, which is why LightSquared, Failed MetroPCS purchase, and T-Mobile partnership. That was sprint's plan A, B, and C and they all failed.
LightSquared had (never really had) the 1600 Mhz spectrum, but Sprint has the 1900Mhz one and the 800Mhz one (which will be awesome )

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I beg to differ. It may not affect their initial LTE rollout, but Sprint is in a bit of trouble. They desperately need extra spectrum for their LTE network, which is why LightSquared, Failed MetroPCS purchase, and T-Mobile partnership. That was sprint's plan A, B, and C and they all failed.
LightSquared had (never really had) the 1600 Mhz spectrum, but Sprint has the 1900Mhz one and the 800Mhz one (which will be awesome )
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From my understanding they still have Clearwire for their LTE so they should be fine. Right?
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RayTrue04 said:
From my understanding they still have Clearwire for their LTE so they should be fine. Right?
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Clearwire is not a very reliable partner. Verizon will soon have around 50 MHz of quality spectrum devoted to LTE nationwide, while Sprint only has its own 10 MHz in the 1.9GHz spectrum.
Clearwire will not get their LTE up until June 2013, and it will only be available in "small pockets" of big cities to supplement Sprint coverage. Further, phones capable of using LTE on both networks may not be available until 2013.

why won't clear go wimax-advance? which is faster then lte?

Jayavarman said:
Clearwire is not a very reliable partner. Verizon will soon have around 50 MHz of quality spectrum devoted to LTE nationwide, while Sprint only has its own 10 MHz in the 1.9GHz spectrum.
Clearwire will not get their LTE up until June 2013, and it will only be available in "small pockets" of big cities to supplement Sprint coverage. Further, phones capable of using LTE on both networks may not be available until 2013.
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Where have you read that? Also Clearwire has about 120mhz of Spectrum on 2.5GHz and Sprint has a ton on 800MHz (IDK the exact figure)

Exclusive: Testing Sprint's New 4G LTE Network

For well over a year now Sprint customers have been dealing with sluggish 3G and 4G WiMAX data speeds. Network woes for America’s third largest wireless carrier have worsened over the past six months or so, as the carrier’s outdated WiMAX 4G offerings were halted in an effort to focus on building a new 4G LTE network. While this decision has good intentions, it has left the bulk of Sprint’s customers stranded on its old, overcrowded CDMA 3G network. However, all hope may not be lost for Sprint and its customers, as the troubled carrier has pledged to deploy its new LTE services by mid-2012, which is literally a couple of weeks away. Set to hit Atlanta, Baltimore, Houston, Dallas, Kansas City, and San Antonio, the question remains if Sprint’s new network setup can hold its own with already established 4G LTE from its competition.
In an effort to answer this burning question, PCMag recently spent some candid time with Sprint’s new LTE network and ran several tests comparing it to both Verizon’s and AT&T’s LTE services. The tests were conducted in Atlanta, Georgia in five different locations using a “specially provisioned” LG Viper 4G LTE phone and a PC Mag’s in-house Sensorly app, along with Ookla’s Speedtest.net app.
The results reveal that Sprint’s LTE is indeed fast, but not quite as fast as peak speeds seen on AT&T’s and Verizon’s networks. This is to be expected, due to Sprint decision to use 5MHz channels band instead of the 10MHz channels that its competition uses. However, the networks still appear to be very competitive. Using the Sensorly speed test app in four different test locations, PCMag found that Sprint’s network produced an average download speed between 9 and 13Mbps, which is on a par with AT&T’s 5MHz channel LTE. Sprint’s download speeds peaked at 26.5Mbps, which also remained competitive with AT&T’s peak 5MHz speeds of around 27.8Mbps.
Surprisingly Sprint’s network speeds were comparable to Verizon’s 10MHz setup, but keep in mind that Verizon’s network is already used by its customers, while Sprint’s was near empty and in a controlled testing environment. In regards to upload speeds, Sprint’s LTE averaged 2.19Mbps, which remained consistant with its own WiMAX 4G, AT&T’s LTE, T-Mobile HSPA+, but was still slower than Verizon.
Obviously focused on LTE, Sprint is aggressively pushing new LTE-capable phones such as the Galaxy Nexus, LG Viper, and HTC EVO 4G LTE, but as it stands these new devices are stuck in the mud on Sprint’s 3G network until its 4G LTE network goes live for customers. While Sprint has committed to a midyear LTE deployment, the carrier has remained coy about its complete network release schedule. This restrictive strategy places a great deal of Sprint’s customers in the dark about their network’s future, and the carrier runs the risk of losing customers to existing LTE networks offered by its competitors.
While Sprint continues to remain in network limbo, its biggest beacon of hope for its customers is its noted commitment to true unlimited data. This is something that its major competitors have abandoned and will likely be Sprint’s saving grace if the carrier’s data speeds are attractive to consumers. However, if Sprint doesn’t deliver on its promises sooner than later, the only speed the carrier will be experiencing is a rapid loss of existing customers.
Source:http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405675,00.asp

Good article and nice find, but...
Did you paraphrase the article?
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squshy 7 said:
Good article and nice find, but...
Did you paraphrase the article?
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The article is from techno Buffalo but they were not the actual testers so I put the original source if somebody wanted to read the full article
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Well its a win win when lte is live everywhere it will be easing congestion but otherwise if people leave in droves it will still free resources LOL
But unlimited data is the only thing keeping anyone here anyway
I rather have slow steady unlimited than capped super sonic speeds
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If those are the speeds they're getting with nobody on the network, then that's poor.
Imagine when it actually launches, even in only the 6 initial markets and millions actually start using it...

LordLugard said:
If those are the speeds they're getting with nobody on the network, then that's poor.
Imagine when it actually launches, even in only the 6 initial markets and millions actually start using it...
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I think it will hold up
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I think it will hold up
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I think so too. The network is still growing so I doubt it'll be that slow.

Plus, once your above a consistent 4-5Mbps that holds while actually moving itll only ever make a noticable difference whike downloading ROMs, and that will still be WiFi recommended.
Those speeds arent good at all though, my WiMAX is right there with it. The difference will be in the connectivity while mobile.

auau465121 said:
For well over a year now Sprint customers have been dealing with sluggish 3G and 4G WiMAX data speeds. Network woes for America’s third largest wireless carrier have worsened over the past six months or so, as the carrier’s outdated WiMAX 4G offerings were halted in an effort to focus on building a new 4G LTE network. While this decision has good intentions, it has left the bulk of Sprint’s customers stranded on its old, overcrowded CDMA 3G network. However, all hope may not be lost for Sprint and its customers, as the troubled carrier has pledged to deploy its new LTE services by mid-2012, which is literally a couple of weeks away. Set to hit Atlanta, Baltimore, Houston, Dallas, Kansas City, and San Antonio, the question remains if Sprint’s new network setup can hold its own with already established 4G LTE from its competition.
In an effort to answer this burning question, PCMag recently spent some candid time with Sprint’s new LTE network and ran several tests comparing it to both Verizon’s and AT&T’s LTE services. The tests were conducted in Atlanta, Georgia in five different locations using a “specially provisioned” LG Viper 4G LTE phone and a PC Mag’s in-house Sensorly app, along with Ookla’s Speedtest.net app.
The results reveal that Sprint’s LTE is indeed fast, but not quite as fast as peak speeds seen on AT&T’s and Verizon’s networks. This is to be expected, due to Sprint decision to use 5MHz channels band instead of the 10MHz channels that its competition uses. However, the networks still appear to be very competitive. Using the Sensorly speed test app in four different test locations, PCMag found that Sprint’s network produced an average download speed between 9 and 13Mbps, which is on a par with AT&T’s 5MHz channel LTE. Sprint’s download speeds peaked at 26.5Mbps, which also remained competitive with AT&T’s peak 5MHz speeds of around 27.8Mbps.
Surprisingly Sprint’s network speeds were comparable to Verizon’s 10MHz setup, but keep in mind that Verizon’s network is already used by its customers, while Sprint’s was near empty and in a controlled testing environment. In regards to upload speeds, Sprint’s LTE averaged 2.19Mbps, which remained consistant with its own WiMAX 4G, AT&T’s LTE, T-Mobile HSPA+, but was still slower than Verizon.
Obviously focused on LTE, Sprint is aggressively pushing new LTE-capable phones such as the Galaxy Nexus, LG Viper, and HTC EVO 4G LTE, but as it stands these new devices are stuck in the mud on Sprint’s 3G network until its 4G LTE network goes live for customers. While Sprint has committed to a midyear LTE deployment, the carrier has remained coy about its complete network release schedule. This restrictive strategy places a great deal of Sprint’s customers in the dark about their network’s future, and the carrier runs the risk of losing customers to existing LTE networks offered by its competitors.
While Sprint continues to remain in network limbo, its biggest beacon of hope for its customers is its noted commitment to true unlimited data. This is something that its major competitors have abandoned and will likely be Sprint’s saving grace if the carrier’s data speeds are attractive to consumers. However, if Sprint doesn’t deliver on its promises sooner than later, the only speed the carrier will be experiencing is a rapid loss of existing customers.
Source:http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405675,00.asp
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I'll have to disagree on a couple points. The truly unlimited data was the first enticing thing to bring me to Sprint in the first place. Second, was the fact that they have the least demanding credit assessment. AT&T wanted me to pay a deposit of $146+, more or less, asking for my landline that I owe them on still. Verizon? Don't get me started there.. after my credit assessment through them, they wanted over $1G for the deposit.. I laughed and immediately went to AT&T's go phone at that time. Limited in data, yes, but the only way I could get on a cell with poor credit, as Sprint was wanting a $100 deposit, not bad, but being unsure of where my next funding was coming from, this did not bode well. It was a couple years before I tried Sprint again, and found out, not only did I have no deposit this time, I could trade in my old AT&T go phone, and got a nice credit towards a descent phone within my price range, the Nexus S 4G. On top of that, Sprint works with several companies to offer an employment discount, mine being 17%, something AT&T has abandoned for a LOT of employers.
Now, let's talk about customer service. IMHO, Sprint is unmatched in providing excellent customer service (in fact, I just found out recently, they've been ranked #1 in this department). Something you won't find with the other 2. They let me know of services they offer, that in order to get it out of AT&T or Verizon, you have to go through an area manager - not something a LOT of people want to deal with. Verizon? The sales rep that ran my credit couldn't understand half of what I was saying. With Sprint, I have only gotten a foreign rep* ONE time (out of the maybe, 15, times, I've had to call in), and they STILL were able to CLEARLY understand the problem I was having and easily helped me to resolve it.
So the bottom line here is, they have too many ups to have the down of their technology being a little behind, to lose too much of a customer base.
I know your article is put together from research and comment follow-ups to the testing articles, but it is still a good write-up, nonetheless.
BTW, if you've looked a little more recently, July 15th is the rollout date for the above mentioned cities, for LTE. Fortunately, I just happened to be in Metro ATL.
Well, that sums up my rebuttle. (however, that's spelled) Please don't take it personally. I'm just preaching from personal experience.
Peace,
~WickiD_D~
* edited to add: I mean no disrespect, no racism, and no stereo-typing in any way. I just think that there are a LOT of people who will agree that there is a natural language barrier that can occur when calling a customer service line, and it makes it very difficult to resolve customer service issues, at those times, for both the caller and the rep, because of it. I sincerely apologize if I offended anyone in any way, because I know we all come from different parts of the world in this forum, and would never intentionally want to hurt anyone here..

Sprint 4GLTE arrives July 15th

Summer is here and so is the first wave of Sprint LTE markets. Today, CEO, Dan Hesse, announced that Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Kansas City and San Antonio will have LTE launched on July 15th. Additional market launches in 2012 will be announced later this year. By the end of 2013, we expect to have largely completed the build out of the 4G LTE nationwide network covering 250 million people across the United States.
As part of the Sprint’s Network Vision promise, we are building an all-new, nationwide 3G and 4G LTE network. This means that whether you are using a smartphone to share a video or to check the Web, Sprint 4G LTE will make it faster. In addition to LTE, the new network provides significant enhancements to Sprint 3G service. You can expect to experience better signal strength, less dropped/blocked calls, faster data speeds, expanded coverage and better overall performance as the improvements roll out across the country.
“While other carriers are simply rolling out their version of a 4G LTE network, we are rolling out an all-new network that will also significantly improve the 3G and voice experience over time – at no extra charge to the customer,” said Hesse.
Source:http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...network-vision-sprint-4glte-arrives-july-15th

Where is NYC??!!

EvanWasHere said:
Where is NYC??!!
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Amen brother!

Thought baltimore was in 1st wave?
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Anyone hear any rumors for the Chicago area?
Also, will this enable data AND voice at the same time on LTE? How about on 3G?

I'm in Houston so I'm happy. I just hope I get this sgs3 device by then.
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Come on over 3 million people in los Angeles lol

Sprints network needs a lot of work I hope these upgrades end up being worth the wait. The last thing the US market needs is something bad happening to Sprint. T-Mobile is already kind of iffy.

As usual, for folks in other cities the best informed speculation about future rollouts is to be found at S4GRU.

What the hell!! Stillwater, Oklahoma has nearly 50,000 people! Why would we not be first to get LTE? This is a bad move by Sprint. I know at LEAST a couple people that might switch carriers because of this, so they'll be out 10's of dollars. You should all demand Stillwater be fist on the list. It's important to you.

I'm done with Sprint. Way too little, way too late. The second my Verizon S3 arrives, i'm porting my number over and buying out the rest of my Sprint contract. It's worth it to me to switch to a carrier that has.. oh let's see... data and voice! Not to mention already having an LTE network in place already and growing all the time.

I am confused why people are upset, they announced these cities months ago. How is this such a surprise. I live in Baltimore we where added to the first round, but won't be lit up on july 15th. My 3g is pretty good in Baltimore so i can wait a month or two.
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wpjessie said:
What the hell!! Stillwater, Oklahoma has nearly 50,000 people! Why would we not be first to get LTE? This is a bad move by Sprint. I know at LEAST a couple people that might switch carriers because of this, so they'll be out 10's of dollars. You should all demand Stillwater be fist on the list. It's important to you.
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Going to switch to sprint, I can cancel my contract with tmobile right? If it hasn't been 14days?
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well for the prices that Verizon charges, I would hope they offered a better service

master acehole said:
Come on over 3 million people in los Angeles lol
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We have over 8 million in NYC and we still got nothing to show for it, but i'm glad KC and San Antonio are taken care of first.

The Sprint LTE rollout schedule is being tracked here. They plan to cover over 130M population with LTE by end of this year and the entire Sprint footprint by 2013. Then they'll start rolling out LTE on 800Mhz which will significantly increase coverage.
Cities...
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
Here's the Network Vision plan (second half of document)...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6m5k0tjsegmms75/Sprint Vision.PDF

customer care about LTE

On March 24th will be going to be announced it about the Lte
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On March 24th will be going to be announced it about the Lte
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Huh? What did you say?

daveid said:
Huh? What did you say?
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Ditto

http://www.tmonews.com/2013/03/t-mo...un-as-lte-update-releases-for-galaxy-note-ii/
In the new of lte
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T-Mobile’s LTE Network Gets Official Trial Run As LTE Update Releases For Galaxy Note II
March 18, 2013 David Beren 8 Comments
T-Mobile’s LTE network is beginning to show some signs of life as a number of sites just posted some hands-on results conducted in New York City last week. That means some good news for Galaxy Note II owners as the long-awaited LTE software update finally rolls out beginning today.
The tests, conducted by The Verge, Engadget, LaptopMag and CNET, we’re getting a first look at what the network is truly capable of. There’s a caveat of course, that all of these tests are running on microcells with absolutely no traffic on it so real-world speeds will be theoretically be slower with thousands of customers on a tower at any given time.*As was case with the HSPA+ rollout, the use of new tower equipment along the necessary LTE hardware should result in better coverage for everyone says T-Mobile Product Management Director Randy Meyerson. That’s good news for customers who may choose to ignore T-Mobile’s first round of LTE handsets as improved coverage is always welcome.
As for those of you looking for the BlackBerry Z10, T-Mobile’s first LTE-ready*BlackBerry, that’s still on the calendar before the end of March. The carrier says LTE is ready in both Las Vegas and Kansas City*and*all that’s left is flipping the switch allowing customers officially on the network. With the promise of a network that covers 200 million people with LTE before the end of 2013, T-Mobile’s rollout is bound to ramp up quickly.
As for the speeds themselves, LaptopMag was able to hit download speeds as high as 58.8Mbps, with uploads running as high as 25.5Mbps. Engadget faired a little better pushing above the 60Mbps mark hitting a high of 62.13Mbps and a download high of 25.67Mbps. Overall, speeds appeared to average well into the high 50′s on the download and in the high trends on the upload side. Remember the earlier caveat though. a
One major advantage for T-Mobile’s LTE network and a selling point the company will certainly use when it rolls out its rumored “Dual 4G” marketing later this year is HSPA+ 42Mbps as a fallback. The ability to fall back on speeds that T-Mobile has long claimed rival competitor LTE networks is an advantage T-Mobile will attempt to use against the likes of Verizon.
For now, T-Mobile highlights that its LTE network will be focused on measured adoption, with an emphasis on higher-end handsets focusing on the technically savvy, media heavy-set of customers. As for*how long it will take before T-Mobile has their LTE network rolled out to more than two cities? That’s a great question that T-Mobile is playing coy with answering. With plans to have 100 million customers cover in LTE before summer, we’re certain we’ll find more cities lighting up in the near future.
The Verge, Engadget, LaptopMag, CNET
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Crowd-Sourced Mobile Coverage Tracker OpenSignal Attempts To Pinpoint T-Mobile’s Firs

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Crowd-Sourced Mobile Coverage Tracker OpenSignal Attempts To Pinpoint T-Mobile’s First LTE Markets
March 22, 2013 David Beren 7 Comments
Tracking T-Mobile’s LTE rollout has been quite a mystery outside of the already announced Kansas City and Las Vegas markets. T-Mobile and T-Mobile users have already shown New York City is well into the testing phase, but outside of those locations there’s plenty of questions and few answers. That is until the folks at OpenSignal decided to their hands with some LTE market guesswork.
Given the opportunity thanks to what they presume are network engineers using their crowd-sourced coverage maps to track coverage, the following cities are on the list of possibles. Mind you this is all unofficial, complete guess-work but these are the locations OpenSignal has seen T-Mobile’s LTE network pop-up:
San Jose and bay area cities
Seattle
Denver
Las Vegas
New Orleans
New York
San Diego
Kansas City
OpenSignal confirmed over 1500 tests using the upcoming LTE-ready Galaxy S III, Galaxy S 4 and Note II.
It worth noting again that this is crowd-sourced data and unofficial to boot. Take it with a grain of salt and remember that this list does not represent an official first look at T-Mobile’s first LTE network launches. Still, what the OpenSignal guys are putting together is worth bookmarking as they continue working to pinpoint T-Mobile’s LTE network testing and eventual launches.
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