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Hi everyone,
the HOX is my first Android phone in a while so I'm still trying to make sense of the developers' stuff. I searched the forums for this but I'm still confused.
My question is, now that i see that both MIUI and CM9 ROMs are getting ready to be released, what are the benefits of waiting for HTC to release the Kernel and also what the benefits are for waiting for the S-Off exploit.
In other words, if working, stable MIUI and CM9 ROMs are released soon, what's the point to wait for HTC kernel and S-Off?
I'd really appreciate if you could help me understand this.
Thanks!
tdx said:
Hi everyone,
the HOX is my first Android phone in a while so I'm still trying to make sense of the developers' stuff. I searched the forums for this but I'm still confused.
My question is, now that i see that both MIUI and CM9 ROMs are getting ready to be released, what are the benefits of waiting for HTC to release the Kernel and also what the benefits are for waiting for the S-Off exploit.
In other words, if working, stable MIUI and CM9 ROMs are released soon, what's the point to wait for HTC kernel and S-Off?
I'd really appreciate if you could help me understand this.
Thanks!
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The newer kernel will have better performance. The S-OFF will make things easier to flash plus you can super CID your phone meaning you can flash any RUU, good for de-branding branded phones
Thanks for the quick response, it makes things clearer. So once HTC officially releases the kernel, will MIUI and CM9 be updated to that? Or are the 2 developments unrelated?
hi all,
I bought my one x today!!
I should recive it next week so i got here to look for news\roms\updates and everything about the phone.
my old one is hd mini so it was prett easy with the roms and stuff (android project is dead),but when i got here i got confused hehe to many stuff..hehe
if you can i would like to get a few basic tips to know what's going on..
cheers
lior
You will learn a lot reading the forum A lot of threads have sticky topics, that answer most of the questions you might get, pretty well.
One thing is certain - you will love the phone! The only downside for me is the batterylife, then again, most smartphones don't have great battery life.
liorderei said:
hi all,
I bought my one x today!!
I should recive it next week so i got here to look for news\roms\updates and everything about the phone.
my old one is hd mini so it was prett easy with the roms and stuff (android project is dead),but when i got here i got confused hehe to many stuff..hehe
if you can i would like to get a few basic tips to know what's going on..
cheers
lior
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Welcome!
Basically, the two different types of Rome are sense based (stock Rom with different modifications) and the aosp roms (built from sources, like cyanogen or aokp).you will find first type in android development forum, the aosp roms and kernels in the original development forum.
While sense roms are much better on things, that are connected to hardware, like battery life, sound quality, camera quality, the aosp roms are smoother (although with jelly bean sense roms, this is arguable) and deliver stock android exporience like nexus.
Now, the siuation with sense roms: since jb was leaked, the main ones are based on the leaks, but you can only flash them with newest hboot (bootlader). And this one you can only flash having the right cid (your location number, the European unlocked and Taiwanese are the only right ones for new hboot)
Keep on reading and youll love this phone
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Firstly , welcome to the One X forum of xda !
I'll start from the basics as you asked .
If you want to flash custom ROMs , you'll have to unlock bootloader , root and flash custom recovery ( CWM or TWRP ) . Due to unknown reasons , HTC is not giving us One X users S-Off bootloader which unlocks a lot of features . But also , it's not much of a restriction if you're used to it . You can follow these 2 noob-proof videos if you want to root your phone .
Please read the quote I'm going to write below as it clarifies the reply of Zlotin's a lot .
Zlotin said:
Welcome!
Basically, the two different types of Rome are sense based (stock Rom with different modifications) and the aosp roms (built from sources, like cyanogen or aokp).you will find first type in android development forum, the aosp roms and kernels in the original development forum.
While sense roms are much better on things, that are connected to hardware, like battery life, sound quality, camera quality, the aosp roms are smoother (although with jelly bean sense roms, this is arguable) and deliver stock android exporience like nexus.
Now, the siuation with sense roms: since jb was leaked, the main ones are based on the leaks, but you can only flash them with newest hboot (bootlader). And this one you can only flash having the right cid (your location number, the European unlocked and Taiwanese are the only right ones for new hboot)
Keep on reading and youll love this phone
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There are four types of different ROMs which are Sense-based ( obviously you know what it is already ) , AOSP ( Android Open Source Project ) this ROM will give you the complete experience of android , AOKP ( Android Open Kang Project ) this ROM is much likely same as AOSP but it has more custom features and lastly the MIUI ( Mobile Internet/Mission Impossible User Interface ) this ROM is completely by itself , it gives you a ... kinda iOS UI and other custom features of its own . You can find all these ROMs in both android development and original android development forums . The different between these both forums is that Original means just that...originally built not just themed or apps changed or a few add-ons or tweaks. So there would be the original AOKP release, the official CM releases, original MIUI release, first and only first deodexed stock ROM, and kernels with full source link posted. Anything else is regular developement. The Original Development is to give added recognition to full real developers putting together actual code, not winzipping things together. Now the JB-Sense ROMs are final-versions which are not leaks as Zlotin said . But to flash JB-Sense ROMs , you need to have updated hboot version which is restricted by CIDs . Currently , only Taiwan have the officially released hboot as they have received they JB through OTA . The European ones are leaks not official but still usable .
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The different between these both forums is that Original means just that...originally built not just themed or apps changed or a few add-ons or tweaks. So there would be the original AOKP release, the official CM releases, original MIUI release, first and only first deodexed stock ROM, and kernels with full source link posted. Anything else is regular developement. The Original Development is to give added recognition to full real developers putting together actual code, not winzipping things together. .
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Aha! New here too and I was wondering about that, thought it was AOSP vs sense then saw a sense version in there .. then I thought its just because theres so much development one forum isnt enough! -which is true too i guess. Anyway its amazing to see so much happening here after the sad story of official support which hurt development for my Atrix so much.
thank you very much guys you've been very helpful and nice i'm glad to join this community, and if ill have further question ill ask
liorderei said:
thank you very much guys you've been very helpful and nice i'm glad to join this community, and if ill have further question ill ask
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welcome, sorry to be such a bastard but this is not the right section
Hi there
I am new to this forum but have been told this is the forum to go to for continuing development on the htc desire.
I bought an unlocked htc desire from ebay but as there are no updates was wondering what would be my best options for improving performance and enhancement of the phone.
I would like to know wether i should root the phone.
Upgrade to 2.3
or just leave it.
I would like to extend battery life and update the rom to like jellybean or other.
please advise me
My advice would be start off with a good gingerbread Rom (android 2.x), as its a mature format you can be pretty sure the phone will be stable, and all features will work. I like both the RSK team's Rom and mildwild's cm7 one, but there are many I've not tried.
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You should definitely root, and s-off it to get the best out of it. For this, check the "All Things Root" guide in my sig.
As frosty said, you should start with a stable GB rom, whether it's Sense or not.
If you only want to upgrade the Desire to the official 2.3 rom, then check the RUU in my sig.
root, upgrade or leave
thankks for that.
are there only a certain amount of customs roms available for Desire , ie, CM7(GB) or can you install newer versions.
This rooting sounds good but before i doi am going to need to know more, especially the continual development for this device.
is there still good support from XDA for this device.
I am after good support and devlopment.
Why not look at the development thread and make up your own mind if the community is active or not?
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looks busy.
just hope i dont do the wrong thing.
so is it possible to install other roms apart from cm7 what about the latest roms??
Read the first couple of posts, and the last few pages of the thread to get a feel for stability and issues. I see a simple, basic decision process, decide if you want something new and shiny, which might have a few problems, or something old and maybe a bit boring, but reliable.(gingerbread vs ics/jb)
Once that decision has been made just choose your Rom, make sure you have the right hboot for the one you want to try, so long as you have your nandroid backup to fall back on you're unlikely to break anything.
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I have been reading the posts and threads about rooting and it sounds quite complicated.
Reading a mag about android and rooting you can also do it without connecting to your pc.
As I am not technologically minded on phones , the mag seemed to make it sound easier.
I think the software for the phone or website is called z4??
any ideas on this.
many thanks
A quick search suggests it's not a lot of use for us. Rooting and s-off are relatively complicated, but worth the rewards, and you can't expect a whole new phone experience without a little effort...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
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I'm in similar situation. I rooted my 2.2 Froyo yesterday. Installed Link2SD made appropriate partition and moved apps to it. So thats not the problem anymore.
Now I'm wondering if I should instal custom ROM and which one?
My high priorities:
Stability
Advanced functions working properly (eg. tethering)
Speed (faster than stock froyo)
My low priorities:
As new as possible (JB?)
Sense
Easy to install
Which one should I get? Or should I stay on Froyo?
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I'm in similar situation. I rooted my 2.2 Froyo yesterday. Installed Link2SD made appropriate partition and moved apps to it. So thats not the problem anymore.
Now I'm wondering if I should instal custom ROM and which one?
My high priorities:
Stability
Advanced functions working properly (eg. tethering)
Speed (faster than stock froyo)
My low priorities:
As new as possible (JB?)
Sense
Easy to install
Which one should I get? Or should I stay on Froyo?
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You can't have sense and jb at the same time. If you want sense, you will have to install gb. If you want JB, you will have stability problems after a while, if not in the first week.
So what you are asking is impossible to fulfill.
If you want a stable sense, try Coolsense v3, or Runnymede aio special edition.
If you want jb, then try VJ's JB.
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thanks for that.
so my aim is the following:
1.- newer and stable rom
2.- better performance
3. good and continual support for that rom.
all help welcome.
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You can't have sense and jb at the same time. If you want sense, you will have to install gb. If you want JB, you will have stability problems after a while, if not in the first week.
So what you are asking is impossible to fulfill.
If you want a stable sense, try Coolsense v3, or Runnymede aio special edition.
If you want jb, then try VJ's JB.
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Thanks. What I read ICS and JB for desire are not so stable. So GB with Sense for me.
Try RSK SMS for a great gingerbread with sense Rom. Ticks all your boxes (apart from ics/jb)
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So you would recommend to me a starting point for rooting with CM7 GB??
does this rom get updates or is this a finished rom?
in the long run i am looking for a good rom with good continuity and support.
please advise.
It's not been updated in ages, read the thread, it might not be "New", but it's stable
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It's not been updated in ages, read the thread, it might not be "New", but it's stable
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Actually, nightlies are released, but at a slow rate. The last one is two weeks old.
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Sorry to be a bit stupid but i am very new to this and dont really understand the process.
there are so many roms and threads/ posts, but dont understand much the technology, so just want some advice on what i should install, but i would like something that is stable for desire but is getting continued support?
root, upgrade or leave
frosty68 said:
My advice would be start off with a good gingerbread Rom (android 2.x), as its a mature format you can be pretty sure the phone will be stable, and all features will work. I like both the RSK team's Rom and mildwild's cm7 one, but there are many I've not tried.
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would this be my best bet for starting out, are there any new stable ones for desire.?
pls tell me as i dont understand the terminology listed on that page.
I know very little, but in my opinion, yes. Start with something tried and tested..and popular. Once you've gone through the process of rooting and flashing a new (to you) rom that's known to work, do the backups and have a look at the new stuff we'll never officially have, ics and jb. That backup will be there to give you a quick "Get me outta here" option.
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So saw a DHD come up on eBay for.. very little money.
Its already running a custom rom - Nexus 5 Experience ROM apparently, I cannot find it anywhere on XDA so I'm assuming its called something else or its on a different site.
I'm planning on installing CM on it anyway so thats no issue.
Now I have a few questions -
I've had a HTC One in the past, and from what I remember S-OFF and a certain HBOOT were a requirement, is the DHD the same? From what I can find S-OFF Isn't a requirement to install custom ROMs, but I'll need a goldcard? Is that correct?
Obviously with it being a single core clocked at 1Ghz I'm not expecting anything like the HTC One, however is it possible to get a decent overclock? I've seen a few threads with people running 1.1 - 1.2 Ghz... has anyone pushed it any higher to see what the CPU can really do?
Thats all really... should be here monday.. looking forward to having another android device to play with.
Nexus 5 Experience ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632012
Project is closed due to OP. Last time i've seen him active with Desire HD with his new project named "Gimme-A-Break". And by far the most Stable and Slimmed CM11 ROM till date. I've used all his builds and very nice dev.
Now to use Custom ROM you need to have nothing else require than rom.zip file itself and appropriate GApps. Since you received device with custom rom on it. It's practically doesn't require anything else regarding rooting or making it S-OFF.
If your hboot is unlocked(S-ON) you may still able flash custom rom on it. Just bare in mind that after every flash of rom you need to flash boot.img of that rom,which you'll find in that folder.zip, Also try looking for latest recoveries and rom of you choice.
GApps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397942
Due to BaNKs is out, PA GApps has taken it's place.
Overall WELCOME to never dying world of Desire HD.
So, my wife picked up the Pixel phone today from Verizon and it's updated to Oreo already. I've got my HTC 10 running stock but I used Sunshine to Unlock the bootloader when I purchased the phone a while back. I was happy with stock and never rooted the phone. But, I'm jelly now and will root and install TWRP tonight. I've been out of the game for a while but my rooting/flashing days go back to Thunderbolt, DNA (my fav), HTC M7, M8, and now my 10. I wanted to ask a few quick questions. Please understand I'm not making requests, demands, or anything. I've donated to the devs in the past. One question, for the 10 on Verizon US, what is the closest to the Pixel ROM available? Also, I remember back in the day devs releasing ROMs pretty quickly after OTA updates to the flagships and was wondering if there's some technical reason around why we haven't seen them on the HTC 10 thread. Thanks in advance!
Just gotta check the ROMs section of the forum. If you want the closest thing to Oreo/Pixel experience get a AOSP ROM. Lineage is good place to start but there are plenty of other ROMs to check out.
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So, my wife picked up the Pixel phone today from Verizon and it's updated to Oreo already. I've got my HTC 10 running stock but I used Sunshine to Unlock the bootloader when I purchased the phone a while back. I was happy with stock and never rooted the phone. But, I'm jelly now and will root and install TWRP tonight. I've been out of the game for a while but my rooting/flashing days go back to Thunderbolt, DNA (my fav), HTC M7, M8, and now my 10. I wanted to ask a few quick questions. Please understand I'm not making requests, demands, or anything. I've donated to the devs in the past. One question, for the 10 on Verizon US, what is the closest to the Pixel ROM available? Also, I remember back in the day devs releasing ROMs pretty quickly after OTA updates to the flagships and was wondering if there's some technical reason around why we haven't seen them on the HTC 10 thread. Thanks in advance!
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Don't know much abt Verizon..cuz I'm using international version & for that the best closest, most stable Rom for HTC 10 is Pure Fusion Os rom in my opinion..the only thing you'll miss there is Sense Camera,Rest Rom is Purely amazing..✌?✌?
I am suggesting you to go ahead with Resurrection remix official for your HTC.. I am already running on my HTC 10 and there are so many tweaks and customisation available.
+1 for Res Remix for LOS based ROM
for AOSP based ROM I suggest AOSP Extended
--Both of these ROMs I have found to be the most stable with the most tweaks
For Sense based ROM, LeeDrOiD or Viper ROM.
Or install MultiROM and have them all installed like I do.
HTC has announced that the 10 will be getting Oero officially so once that is released, the Sense based ROMs will most likely start jumping on that and re-basing their ROMs.
LOS/AOSP ROMs are already in the process (or at least some are) of updating to Oreo
Throwing in another recommendation for PureFusion. It's the closest thing to the Pixel that you'll find and is updated often.
Another one for the pure fusion. It's the closest you can get to pixel on the 10.
andybones said:
+1 for Res Remix for LOS based ROM
for AOSP based ROM I suggest AOSP Extended
--Both of these ROMs I have found to be the most stable with the most tweaks
For Sense based ROM, LeeDrOiD or Viper ROM.
Or install MultiROM and have them all installed like I do.
HTC has announced that the 10 will be getting Oero officially so once that is released, the Sense based ROMs will most likely start jumping on that and re-basing their ROMs.
LOS/AOSP ROMs are already in the process (or at least some are) of updating to Oreo
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how do you install multirom?
antonio82 said:
how do you install multirom?
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By following the instructions in the multirom threads Opening Post.
andybones said:
By following the instructions in the multirom threads Opening Post.
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LOL, enough said!