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On juggernaut ROM and I don't know why but my battery drains faster than my vibrant with ics I have no widgets or installed any apps
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post some screens of battery use.
mines pretty good. apart from the basics try disabling wifi/4g when your not actually using the internet.
Hercules was here
I tried JuiceDefender on the market (Free one) and I seem to be getting better bettery life.
airhop7 said:
On juggernaut ROM and I don't know why but my battery drains faster than my vibrant with ics I have no widgets or installed any apps
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Stock kernel on juggernaut overclocks. this offers better performance, but drains the battery faster.
How long have you been using the juggernaut Rom?
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Give eugenes rom a go, it has a custom kernel. Ill post some screenies of my battery life as soon as I hop on a computer
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airhop7 said:
On juggernaut ROM and I don't know why but my battery drains faster than my vibrant with ics I have no widgets or installed any apps
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WHOA it's rare to see someone say that the battery life is horrible in this forum. You should try a new fresh wipe and install, and try different kernels.
Try darksides super wipe then re install juggernaut ROM. Make sure not to run setcpu or any other cpu apps, I was having bad battery drain running setcpu.
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Setcpu leaves a core on so I advise against it
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WHOA it's rare to see someone say that the battery life is horrible in this forum. You should try a new fresh wipe and install, and try different kernels.
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From a galaxy better than yours.
What kernel are you using?
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I tried JuiceDefender on the market (Free one) and I seem to be getting better bettery life.
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i actually think those "battery saving" and task killer apps uses up more juice than saving ... i had juicedefender ultimate and i noticed my battery drain when it was enabled .. i deleted the app and ive noticed a great improvement on my battery .
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I was also getting horrible battery life on the Juggernaut roms. I tried the bullet kernel, synergy, and faux kernels with all sorts of different ways to reduce battery consumption such as underclocking, undervolting, uninstalling bloat, and removing apps from startup. No matter what, my phone would always be dead by the time I came home from work/school (I'm usually away from home from 630am until 800pm).
I recently started using the DARKSIDE rom/kernel in the hopes that it would provide some better battery life and I am actually getting significantly longer usage times. As of right now after ~15 hours of time spent off the charger and with moderate use (~500 texts/day, XDA app, FB checking, random Internet usage), I have just under 40% battery life remaining. I must say I am very impressed with this rom and give the developer TDJ mad props.
So here's my battery life with Eugene's Macnut ROM:
Compared to this (Juggernaut 4.1 with ICS Ultimate Theme):
I run juggs with TDJ Darkside kernel, kernel makes huge diff
airhop7 said:
On juggernaut ROM and I don't know why but my battery drains faster than my vibrant with ics I have no widgets or installed any apps
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I am running Juggs 4.1 as well previously with the FAUX123 kernel and decided to try out TDJ's Darkside kernel. Wow, huge difference, highly recommend. I use system tuner app to adjust my speeds but main thing in system tuner app is to go into boot settings and set screen-off to powersave governor and max frequence to 800, 500 etc.
I also run easy bettery saver and that helps as well. Battery life is best I have ever had with my G2 and I got it first day it came out and have run most all of the rom's kernels on it. If you can I would suggest running TDJ's Darkside rom as well. I would but just don't want to reload again at this point.
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I'll try darkside rom and see if it fixes my battery drain problem.
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Setcpu leaves a core on so I advise against it
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Thank you for this, I wasnt aware of that, what do you use to change your clockspeed when your screen is off? I recently switch from an iphone and unfortunately battery life seems to be something I have to actually think about now. I know its a faster processor and a bigger screen so I get it, I just never had to worry about turning off wifi and things like that before. I currently am running beastmod 4.2 with darkside kernel. I have 9hrs on battery at 41% with 2 hrs and 15 min of display. Im not really interested in speed at this point so I thought setcpu was a good thing to use to underclock and use less battery. Can you recommend any good alternatives or should I not bother with setcpu type apps. Thanks in advance
On darkside... Not the current one but the one before it... I think it was version 1r2 or something like that. Battery is great, better than juggernaut. I have bluetooth and Wifi on all day
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i actually think those "battery saving" and task killer apps uses up more juice than saving ... i had juicedefender ultimate and i noticed my battery drain when it was enabled .. i deleted the app and ive noticed a great improvement on my battery .
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They gobble up a TINY bit more CPU (probably no more than 1% throughout the entire charge) at the cost of managing your data settings. It saves juice primarily when your phone is idling. It pings, it checks data thresholds. The main idea is that it turns off 4g/wifi when you're not using it, and back on when you are. This requires a little but of CPU, but you end up having a battery that lasts much longer.
There's never be a time when you're using your phone 100% of the time on battery. There's ALWAYS idle time.
So I'm currently running Juggs 5.0 and using the Darkside kernel. First day was rocky but relished it and love how smooth it is. Now am just testing the battery life. Here are much questions... 1) I was using cpu tune for my Faux kernel and used different profiles for it. Since I have Gideons script can I still do that? 2) Do you recommend it since I have this script? 3) I want my phone to not use hardly any battery when at rest or sleep, what's the best way to do this with the info I have given? Also I am using juice defender. Thanks in advance fellas !!
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So I'm currently running Juggs 5.0 and using the Darkside kernel. First day was rocky but relished it and love how smooth it is. Now am just testing the battery life. Here are much questions... 1) I was using cpu tune for my Faux kernel and used different profiles for it. Since I have Gideons script can I still do that? 2) Do you recommend it since I have this script? 3) I want my phone to not use hardly any battery when at rest or sleep, what's the best way to do this with the info I have given? Also I am using juice defender. Thanks in advance fellas !!
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1) Yes but I wouldn't recommend it, its equivalent to having two CPU apps, they'll conflict, so pick one
2) See point one
3) Make sure your phone is deep sleeping, by using CPU spy and betterbatterystats to avoid app wake locks, which keep your phone from entering deep sleep and draining more battery.
For better performance all around (including deep sleep) i recommend undervolting with either faux clock or system tuner. Gideon script can also be modified to undervolt more if you read up on it a little.
As a side note, the general consensus among power users is that juice defender sucks. It drains more than it saves
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1) Yes but I wouldn't recommend it, its equivalent to having two CPU apps, they'll conflict, so pick one
2) See point one
3) Make sure your phone is deep sleeping, by using CPU spy and betterbatterystats to avoid app wake locks, which keep your phone from entering deep sleep and draining more battery.
For better performance all around (including deep sleep) i recommend undervolting with either faux clock or system tuner. Gideon script can also be modified to undervolt more if you read up on it a little.
As a side note, the general consensus among power users is that juice defender sucks. It drains more than it saves
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1) thanks. I think I will delete this app for this particular app
2)got it
3)I downloaded them and will need to learn more about wakelocks.
Have never heard if this.
Here are my stats.
384 mhz 33%
1080 mhz 13%
Total state time 4:30.30
Deepsleep 47%
Ill try a tune to see which is best for undervolting . Thanks for your assistance
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Ok partial wakelocks unplugged had juicedefender at 11 mins and 4.1%. Partial since charged JD is 29 mins 3.8% and activity manager launcher .8%.... This is what I got. So is JD really draining more than it saves? Just curious.
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suaverc118 said:
Ok partial wakelocks unplugged had juicedefender at 11 mins and 4.1%. Partial since charged JD is 29 mins 3.8% and activity manager launcher .8%.... This is what I got. So is JD really draining more than it saves? Just curious.
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yup, it causes all those wake locks ur reading about. No point having an app the reportedly saves battery life but really just prevents deep sleep?? kinda useless in my opinion lol
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yup, it causes all those wake locks ur reading about. No point having an app the reportedly saves battery life but really just prevents deep sleep?? kinda useless in my opinion lol
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Got it. So my kernel will kill the radio and etc that JD already does and save me battery? Because that is what JD is for right? Also I can't find faux clock on the market.
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Actually I found it another way. I remember reading something at one time about undervolting and I may be wrong, but should I try at -25mv increments??
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Got it. So my kernel will kill the radio and etc that JD already does and save me battery? Because that is what JD is for right? Also I can't find faux clock on the market.
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No, a kernel won't kill the radio. Jd sucks, and it eats up more battery than it saves. Having your radios shut off makes a smartphone dumb. Run gideons script and call it a day.
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OK so here is my current stats.
Deepsleep 73%
384MHz 14%
1188MHz 8%
Battery stats say it's been unplugged for 10h 4m with 50% left.
My question is why isn't my phone using the higher 1188 and using the lower number? So does this.mean my phone is moving at a slow rate? Thanks again!
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Oh on my darkside kernel using Gideon's script -50v setting and I went ahead and did my own-50v as well. Any tips??
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suaverc118 said:
OK so here is my current stats.
Deepsleep 73%
384MHz 14%
1188MHz 8%
Battery stats say it's been unplugged for 10h 4m with 50% left.
My question is why isn't my phone using the higher 1188 and using the lower number? So does this.mean my phone is moving at a slow rate? Thanks again!
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Did you read what the script does? It underclocks your cpu and undervolts it
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Did you read what the script does? It underclocks your cpu and undervolts it
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Yeah I know that but I still don't know a lot about it still. I have to read here and there and processing time for me may not be as quick as some of y'all But what I thought underclocking was is it is going below the standard speed that my phone typically does like 1242. So it would run at 1080 or whatever rate I chose. So I guess I'm wondering is when does it decide to run at whatever MHz it runs at? So the numbers I showed, is that about right or good? Again thanks
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Yeah I know that but I still don't know a lot about it still. I have to read here and there and processing time for me may not be as quick as some of y'all But what I thought underclocking was is it is going below the standard speed that my phone typically does like 1242. So it would run at 1080 or whatever rate I chose. So I guess I'm wondering is when does it decide to run at whatever MHz it runs at? So the numbers I showed, is that about right or good? Again thanks
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It scales up depending on CPU load, and the governor used
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It scales up depending on CPU load, and the governor used
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Thanks for your patients dude. I'm assuming mine is running the way it's supposed to be. No lags that I can notice even with me undervolting a little more.
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Thanks for your patients dude. I'm assuming mine is running the way it's supposed to be. No lags that I can notice even with me undervolting a little more.
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Sounds like it's doing just fine to me! Don't be afraid to push the thanks button, lol
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Sounds like it's doing just fine to me! Don't be afraid to push the thanks button, lol
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Oh yeah, my bad LOL!
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I am able to get 5 hours of screen on of battery life on ICS if I underclock to 800Mhz..But ive read jellybean is quicker but does it improve battery life ?
5? What do you do? I can easily get 12-13 with 20-30% remaining.
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5? What do you do? I can easily get 12-13 with 20-30% remaining.
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sorry I meant screen on time
In my limited experience over the last 48 hours, the battery life seems as good or better than ICS.
Not a huge difference though. Yet.
If u run aokp cm9 based with power savings (kill data when screen is off) under volt heavily you will lose 1% an hour idle. I have NEVER seen that on any other ROM...especially jelly bean ROMs. And jelly bean lags a while lot more than ICS regardless of clock speeds.
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If u run aokp cm9 based with power savings (kill data when screen is off) under volt heavily you will lose 1% an hour idle. I have NEVER seen that on any other ROM...especially jelly bean ROMs. And jelly bean lags a while lot more than ICS regardless of clock speeds.
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I lose 0% after three hours on idle during sammy's kernel and stock rom..But the issue comes when I begin browsing.
I constantly get 5 hours of on screen time with 800Mhz underclock - to me it's the best setting for battery life.
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I lose 0% after three hours on idle during sammy's kernel and stock rom..But the issue comes when I begin browsing.
I constantly get 5 hours of on screen time with 800Mhz underclock - to me it's the best setting for battery life.
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That's amazing battery life. I'll try the same setup.
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I lose 0% after three hours on idle during sammy's kernel and stock rom..But the issue comes when I begin browsing.
I constantly get 5 hours of on screen time with 800Mhz underclock - to me it's the best setting for battery life.
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Do u underclock all values to 800mhz? Ive Lowered my values on 192 and 394. Is it safe to lower the higher MHz?
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Do u underclock all values to 800mhz? Ive Lowered my values on 192 and 394. Is it safe to lower the higher MHz?
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Yes it is. I've lowered all values up to 1512 by 75.
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I have really bad battery issues and I don't know if it's the kernel I'm using or what but my battery seems to take over 2 hrs to charge fully and it dies really fast. Will drop down 4% within like 10 min of use. I never had issues like this before I flashed the liquid smooth rc8 but since I have left that and now am on paranoidandroid. If anyone can help it would be great. THANKS
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I have really bad battery issues and I don't know if it's the kernel I'm using or what but my battery seems to take over 2 hrs to charge fully and it dies really fast. Will drop down 4% within like 10 min of use. I never had issues like this before I flashed the liquid smooth rc8 but since I have left that and now am on paranoidandroid. If anyone can help it would be great. THANKS
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Is your android system draining it?
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Why don't you check what is draining your battery and report back
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Title says it all. If I root my S3, it heats up to uncomfortable temperatures. If it's on stock, it runs nice and cool. Battery doesn't seem to be affected by this new heat. And I've tried a lot of kernels and ROMs. Why does my S3 get hot when it's rooted? And I'm not talking like gaming, I'm talking about basic use.
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Hm maybe try underclocking a little bit?
Clock speed is same as stock. Shouldn't be the problem.
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Have you done anything to the CPU controls?
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Title says it all. If I root my S3, it heats up to uncomfortable temperatures. If it's on stock, it runs nice and cool. Battery doesn't seem to be affected by this new heat. And I've tried a lot of kernels and ROMs. Why does my S3 get hot when it's rooted? And I'm not talking like gaming, I'm talking about basic use.
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My friends S3 used to get really hot and he wasn't rooted. I turned off his location service and no more heat. I presume the heat is coming from something that's running in the background. What rooting method are you using? Also you said you've tried ROMs and kernels. Is the heat coming from rooted stock or only when you switch to another ROM and/or kernel?
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My friends S3 used to get really hot and he wasn't rooted. I turned off his location service and no more heat. I presume the heat is coming from something that's running in the background. What rooting method are you using? Also you said you've tried ROMs and kernels. Is the heat coming from rooted stock or only when you switch to another ROM and/or kernel?
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Location services off. Battery stats say screen takes up most of battery(normal for s3.) I used teamwin root from recovery. Anything other than full stock. Includes rooted stock and custom ROMs/kernels.
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Rooting would not cause any extra heating to occur lol
Give these a try. Better Battery Stats will determine if there's a wakelock not letting your phone truly sleep. And CPU Spy will let you know if your phone is getting stuck at any mhz or if it's sleeping.
Better Battery Stats https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
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Give these a try. Better Battery Stats will determine if there's a wakelock not letting your phone truly sleep. And CPU Spy will let you know if your phone is getting stuck at any mhz or if it's sleeping.
Better Battery Stats https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
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Alright will post my findings today. Im sure that my phone gets the deep sleep it needs. It gets really hot during use.
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Which stats from BBS do you want? There are many sections.
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Which stats from BBS do you want? There are many sections.
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I believe (don't quote me) it the wakelocks and partial wakelocks. Show's what making you phone not stay i deep sleep
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I believe (don't quote me) it the wakelocks and partial wakelocks. Show's what making you phone not stay i deep sleep
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My phone deep sleeps just fine.. It gets extremely hot during use...
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dima470 said:
My phone deep sleeps just fine.. It gets extremely hot during use...
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If it's during use then CPU states. It might be running at higher mhz during use causing the heat problem.
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Alright will share CPU stats by end of the day. I'm pretty sure that's the problem.
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Ya I think my phone always runs at high frequencies. I used performance control to get this. Whenever I touch the screen or do anything, the clock speed jumps up to 1.5Ghz. My governer is interactive.
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Ya I think my phone always runs at high frequencies. I used performance control to get this. Whenever I touch the screen or do anything, the clock speed jumps up to 1.5Ghz. My governer is interactive.
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that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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Can we maybe explain it as having a device that just run's hot ? It was my first inclination.
OP, maybe I glanced over it at first but you stated you have used many rom's and kernels and got the exact same response on all the ones you used ?
Did you you try going back to stock rooted and seeing how it was from there ? A completely clean slate might be your best idea. The only way a device will get hot is is more power is being used to keep the processor at higher temperatures. There really isn't any other way or than faulty hardware issue.
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that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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its not a price tag. its a script set to take advantage and make the most of the hardware on your phone. as soon as the task has begun, the CPU speed drops immediately.
see above post by hednik. i lean towards his thinking on this
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Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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I almost always use ondemand governor. In my humble opinion nearly all the other ones are inefficient or just placebo's. My phone runs streaming radio 4-5 hours a days on LTE and it never gets hot. Stays at around 918mhz at the highest. There a few bugs in 4.1.1 like the media server scanning where it will constantly scan your media because of a bad file.
Odin stock rooted 4.1.1 and then see how it goes. Factory reset it and erase /data or move to to pc or ex sd card. Won't take long and if it still does it I can't see what it would be.