Hi everybody,
I previously rooted and S-OFF my phone by downgrading from 1.72 to 1.34 and using gfree.
But my phone broke down and I just received my DZ from after-sales service, with stock ROM...
So I have few questions:
- I tried to root it with HTC super tool v3. I was not able to perma-root my DZ until I unlocked the stock bootloder using htcdev official method.
So I succeed in writing the system partition. But now i cannot flash a custom recovery (using ROM manager). S-off is only for bootloader/radio, so I should be able to do it with an unlocked bootloder, even if i'm still S-On, right ? What should be wrong?
- Now, if I want to S-off my phone, I must downgrade the radio to the one from 1.34 to use gfree, right ?
- What is the advantage of flashing an eng-hboot rather the official/unlocked one ?
Thanks,
Aurélien
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Check out my guide for htcdev unlock here, it'll explain how to flash a recovery.
To S-OFF you will have to relock the bootloader to downgrade, then use gfree.
Eng hboot lets you use a whole bunch of fastboot commands, and can help you fix your phone from a SOFT brick.
-Nipqer
Thanks for your reply Nipqer.
I will follow your guide.
But just to be sure I understand everything, I there a reason why I cannot flash the recovery after rooting the phone ? is there some kind of hardware lock enabled because of S-on ? in my case, is there any difference flashing from fastboot rather that ROm manager ?
And about the official unlocked hboot, Is there some kind of signature check when flashing that engineering one does not have?
Thanks again,
Aurélien
The emmc still has write protection if you use the htcdev method, so recoveries (and kernels) can only be flashed via fastboot.
So you cannot use Rom manager.
If the phone is S-ON it will perform a signature check, and only flash official HTC signed roms. S-OFF will let you flash any rom.
-Nipqer
Thanks for the explanation !
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Hi everyone,
I want to S-off my device again, so I don't need to reflash the Boot.img of every custom rom over and over again.
I've tried to flash my device with the DHD Stock 1.32 Rom to use jkoljo's method for S-off'ing my device.
So I put the PD98IMG.zip on my SDcard and let the HBoot flash it. After the reboot I got stuck at HTC Logo and this happens too after flashing PD98IMG.zip's boot.img
So is there another way to S-off my device while I'm HTCDevUnlocked or is it game over for S-off?
I've googled for some time on the net, but I couldn't find a DHD specific result.
Thanks in advance!
****head said:
Hi everyone,
I want to S-off my device again, so I don't need to reflash the Boot.img of every custom rom over and over again.
I've tried to flash my device with the DHD Stock 1.32 Rom to use jkoljo's method for S-off'ing my device.
So I put the PD98IMG.zip on my SDcard and let the HBoot flash it. After the reboot I got stuck at HTC Logo and this happens too after flashing PD98IMG.zip's boot.img
So is there another way to S-off my device while I'm HTCDevUnlocked or is it game over for S-off?
I've googled for some time on the net, but I couldn't find a DHD specific result.
Thanks in advance!
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No need to google around lol when you have xda forums
Try this tool here
shad0wboss said:
No need to google around lol when you have xda forums
Try this tool here
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Thanks, will try it when I got the time
I guess, I need to be on an original rom or a Sense-rom
Do you know how I can flash an original rom from HTC itself? I thought it was like putting P98IMG.zip on the sd and let HBoot find it and flash it.
But after that I got stuck at HTC-logo, and flashing the boot.img doesn't work neither :s
I really don't know how to flash DHD's Froyo rom after (HTCDev) unlocking my device
Run the RUU of the OS you were last on, so if you were on WWE 2.50 run that RUU, or if you were on 3.12 Sense 3.0 then run that, relock the bootloader, and run attn1's Ace Hack Kit, it will automatically do the downgrade for you so you get S-OFF.
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Run the RUU of the OS you were last on, so if you were on WWE 2.50 run that RUU, or if you were on 3.12 Sense 3.0 then run that, relock the bootloader, and run attn1's Ace Hack Kit, it will automatically do the downgrade for you so you get S-OFF.
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So I need to relock it before I can run that RUU?
Ok, I will try it when I have the time to do it.
Thanks everyone!
Title says it all. I know that with S-OFF, things should be easier than with S-ON. Nut this is my first Android device and even if I read different threads regarding rooting/flashing, etc., things are still complicated specially because the guides are specifically made for S-ON devices - which is understandable, I know. Considering that the existence of S-OFF HTC One Xs are almost a myth.
It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.
The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO
EddyOS said:
The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO
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Uhh, yeah, I know that. That's why I am trying to learn things. Thanks for 'helping' me 'recognized contributor'.
All you have to do is follow every other guide that's on here, the only difference being you can flash any RUU you want if you need to go back to stock. There's not a lot to it
And just cause I'm an RC doesn't mean I have to be nice
Chezbel said:
It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.
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I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?
EddyOS said:
The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO
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completely agree :laugh:
Chezbel said:
It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.
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I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?
EddyOS said:
All you have to do is follow every other guide that's on here, the only difference being you can flash any RUU you want if you need to go back to stock. There's not a lot to it
And just cause I'm an RC doesn't mean I have to be nice
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Oh, i know that one! Had to flash a RUU after I got stuck on boot trying to install a custom ROM. Anyway, S-off or not, do I need CWM? Because that's where I think I got wrong. I never heard of clockwork mod before I installed this custom rom. Now I am reading this guide but it doesn't mention where I should put the recovery.img before I flash it.
Yes you do. Having s-off means you can fall back on any RUU to go back to stock. Other than that you follow the same guides as everyone else
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Wow.... Seems like the one v forum isn't the only one full of jerks.
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cammykool said:
Wow.... Seems like the one v forum isn't the only one full of jerks.
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Who is the idiot you're referring to?
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jed27.galvez said:
I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?
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You shouldn't have to do the htcdev unlock
If you want to flash any ROMs or make system backups you must install a recovery such as CWM or TWRP
Perhaps Titanium backup is a not must, but I would highly recommend it. That has nothing to do with S-ON vs S-OFF. It's a very useful tool for backing up your applications and other information. The paid version is well worth the money.
In general, as was mentioned before, you can still follow all the guides step by step. It's possible that some steps don't apply to you, but it won't hurt to do them. If you aren't sure what you are doing then it's better not to guess about which steps to skip.
I have got to the part on installing a custom recovery, but it says NOT ALLOWED. I asked some recognized members and some said that it is not enough that I am s-off to flash custom recovery, that I should also unlock bootloader.
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OK, that makes sense because you have to flash recovery from the bootloader. I think it would save you some time and confusion if you just pretend that you have S-ON like everyone else and follow all steps of the guides you are using.
If you do that, including unlocking your bootloader, then the main difference for you will be when flashing a new ROM from CWM or TWRP since the boot.img will get updated. With S-ON that can't happen from recovery, the boot.img can only be flashed from the bootloader screen.
jed27.galvez said:
I have got to the part on installing a custom recovery, but it says NOT ALLOWED. I asked some recognized members and some said that it is not enough that I am s-off to flash custom recovery, that I should also unlock bootloader.
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When having S-OFF you have to give the command on whicht partition you want. As I heard you can't say recovery or something.
I managed this with the application "Rom Manager". Also S-OFF device. But for flashing a CWM through "Rom Manager" you have rooted your phone first.
Chezbel said:
OK, that makes sense because you have to flash recovery from the bootloader. I think it would save you some time and confusion if you just pretend that you have S-ON like everyone else and follow all steps of the guides you are using.
If you do that, including unlocking your bootloader, then the main difference for you will be when flashing a new ROM from CWM or TWRP since the boot.img will get updated. With S-ON that can't happen from recovery, the boot.img can only be flashed from the bootloader screen.
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Some devs don't include the boot.img in their rom zip so you'd still have to flash it separately with fast boot.
To unlock your bootloader simply type fastboot oem unlock, unlike s-on phones, you don't require the unlock file from htcdev.com
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stuart0001 said:
To unlock your bootloader simply type fastboot oem unlock, unlike s-on phones, you don't require the unlock file from htcdev.com
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Are you sure? I don't think that is true (at least not in all cases)
Chezbel said:
Are you sure? I don't think that is true (at least not in all cases)
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tried fastboot oem unlock, doesn't seem to work for me, I get an error message. Ugh, I can't continue with htcdev.com, their site is always down or very very slow.
Hi Stuart,
Even if the boot.img is included in the zip you need to flash the boot.img separate isn't?
What I'm trying to say is, it doesn't make a difference if they include it in the zip or not, if it's not included you only need to download twice.
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Some devs don't include the boot.img in their rom zip so you'd still have to flash it separately with fast boot.
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi Stuart,
Even if the boot.img is included in the zip you need to flash the boot.img separate isn't?
What I'm trying to say is, it doesn't make a difference if they include it in the zip or not, if it's not included you only need to download twice.
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With S-OFF, if the boot.img is in the ROM then you don't need to flash it separately.
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Firstly sorry if my question a bit basic, but I have search and couldn't find confirmed answer.
This is very basic and simple :
Can S-ON, unlocked and rooted DHD install a custom rom?
My phone currently on unlocked, S-On and rooted, but after installing a custom rom (cyanogenmod) it was stuck for 10 minutes in HTC screen / logo...
Lucky that i have back up with CWM and could restore stock roms.
Any respond would be appreciated. :good:
Yes. You need to fastboot flash the boot.img in the ROM zip. Ace Think Tank has instructions.
yes its possible
bananagranola said:
Yes. You need to fastboot flash the boot.img in the ROM zip. Ace Think Tank has instructions.
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Yes, after searching, finally I can do it... Thank mate ! cheers!
How to root DHD's shipped with gingerbread and instal clockworkmod recovery and install custom roms???
I have s-off though my bootloader is "locked-oww"!
Need safest and quickest way!
waleedbutt256 said:
How to root DHD's shipped with gingerbread and instal clockworkmod recovery and install custom roms???
I have s-off though my bootloader is "locked-oww"!
Need safest and quickest way!
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AAHK should work. Dont remember though. But do give this a read. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31211732&postcount=396
If you already have S-Off, you should be able to simply flash a recovery from fastboot and flash a ROM from recovery.
bananagranola said:
If you already have S-Off, you should be able to simply flash a recovery from fastboot and flash a ROM from recovery.
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Yeah....thats wht i did and it is now successfully rooted, custom recovery installed and running cm10.1!!! cool