Off-topic other device and upgrading phone discussion - Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II

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Anybody see this? Looks like the Note III will have some competition.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/30/...ic_Full&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Engadget
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It always had competition. What it shows to me, there are enough people buying Notes that other companies are seeing a market demand that can make enough money to be worth their while.

bigger is better
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Anybody see this? Looks like the Note III will have some competition.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/30/...ic_Full&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Engadget
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I had an evo 3d for a long time and loved it, but it was too small. I like the note II, but it could be a bit bigger still. The only problem with htc is that they are so hard to root. The galaxy note took me 15 minutes. The htc evo took the better part of the week to get it just right with the battery pull method.

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It always had competition. What it shows to me, there are enough people buying Notes that other companies are seeing a market demand that can make enough money to be worth their while.
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What competition? Here in the US the only competition was the DNA and that was only on 1 carrier. We never got the Optimus G Pro so it was the Note II or jump carriers. Hopefully with the release of this we will get some other options.
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for any and all other phones. I think it's biggest competitor has been the S3. There are also other 5" plus size phones as well. I know LG makes one. I looked at the competition in regards to people's choices.
This HTC is the first one that includes a stylus and more a true head to head competition. Although one could buy a stylus for an Android device. Some even have the hardware to use the Boomboo touch sensitivity stylus. .

lovekeiiy said:
for any and all other phones. I think it's biggest competitor has been the S3. There are also other 5" plus size phones as well. I know LG makes one. I looked at the competition in regards to people's choices.
This HTC is the first one that includes a stylus and more a true head to head competition. Although one could buy a stylus for an Android device. Some even have the hardware to use the Boomboo touch sensitivity stylus. .
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I see what you meant now. I was talking more in the terms of "Phablet Competition". Yeah the LG Optimus Vu and Vu II are out but the first one was only on Verizon and I'm not sure the second one even made it to the states. Neither was any competition. Besides the DNA the only real phablet that offered any real competition would be the Optimus G Pro but that hasn't been released in the states either so the Note and Note II has had the stage pretty much by themselves here. Now this T6, if released on multiple carriers, gives Samsung and the Note III something to look over their shoulder at.

I knew what you were thinking. I just saw it different that's all. It was just a matter of what one considers a phablet and what the competition really is. Personally, I've always had the thinking that a phablet was a smartphone is a 5" or larger screen; with new phones, not consider phablets reaching the 5" mark, I may need to redefine it. Yet, Wiki has the same idea as me.
As you have stated though, the number of phablets available has been small. On top of that, they were either specific to one carrier or not available in the US. And importing one was useless for Sprint since they didn't have radios that would work. The issue I had, the hardware--CPU, RAM, storage, etc--tended to be middle of the road to a year behind what I already had, such as the Evo 4G.
Nonetheless, this may be more of a like to like competition. In the end, what I like, it means there has been enough demand and, more importantly, sales of the Galaxy Note to where other companies see there is money to be made. And that just means someone is going to have to step up their game to remain relevant in the phablet market. Hopefully this means we either get better hardware or lower prices. For now, I like Samsung has choosen to make the Note a flagship phone so it gets the best of the hardware. I'm not the biggest of all the software they choose to add. Although, TouchWiz is a solid.

Looks like its getting official:
http://www.talkandroid.com/164659-htc-t6-to-launch-in-q3-of-2013-as-the-htc-one-max/
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Imo, its not about the nice phone rather the performance, sprint sucks
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LaloHigh said:
Imo, its not about the nice phone rather the performance, sprint sucks
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I feel you. Ever since the Evo 3D I was getting crappy service. Luckily we had WiMax in most of the area and ever since they rolled out LTE my service is great. So it looks Sprint has bought themselves a couple more years. Just hoping we get this one & its not exclusive to just one carrier.
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GSM Galaxy Nexus going on eBay - Galaxy Note en route

I've thoroughly enjoyed my short ownership of this device, but after the OMG nature of ICS wore off, it's really just an average phone.
I've ordered a Galaxy Note and will be here Monday. Despite touchwiz, slow updates, blabla, the Note just seems like an incredible device that can finally allow me to leave my laptop behind.
Not trolling, just posting as others may find interest in the Note once the newness of the Nexus wears off.
If you are interested in buying direct, PM me. I will be very fair on the price if it's done outside of eBay's ridiculous fees. Steinheil protector + spare, case and absolutely mint with everything.
No, this isn't an ad for my phone. It's jut a post that's intended to generate discussion on the comparison.
To be honest I would have purchased a note also, but it won't work with T-Mobile 3g. I love my nexus though, and the development on here will make it truely remarkable
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Buh bye google updates.
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I came from a note and got the nexus and I don't regret returning the note at all. The note had very bad color banding or at least mine did. Also videos were horrible due to a halo effect that would show up in a white background. I hope it was just my unit but it seems like many were having the same issue as I did. The only thing I liked much more about the note was the battery life. Would last me sometimes 3 days! Nexus doesn't even come close...
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i just did the opposite! i bought a gsm note to use on ATT but it had several issues. had problems with the capacitive touch buttons not working after phone calls. the phone would also shut it self off randomly. i returned it because of those problems. if it wasnt for that it was a really cool phone. the extra screen real estate was nice for games and web sites.
I'm not saying this because I have a Nexus, but I find it hard to understand how you find it just an average phone. The camera is about the only average thing about it, everything else runs so well in ICS which makes the experience as a whole so much more coherent.
The only thing I'd really wish for at the moment would be an LTE version for GSM carriers.
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I'm not saying this because I have a Nexus, but I find it hard to understand how you find it just an average phone. The camera is about the only average thing about it, everything else runs so well in ICS which makes the experience as a whole so much more coherent.
The only thing I'd really wish for at the moment would be an LTE version for GSM carriers.
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Yeah, I considered that, but ATT will drop the legendary Exoynos processor because it isn't compatible with LTE.
That and who knows how ATT will handle grandfathered unlimited plans that try to go to LTE. I simply don't trust them to let me keep it.
6mbps is plenty fast since I don't tether.
to each their own but please list a few phones that you consider above average
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Buh bye google updates.
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Hello better phone with ICS in the pipeline? Wacom digitizer and all.
Different strokes, I guess. I've owned the Nexus One, Nexus S, SGSII, EVO. Pure google, while nice, ends up being modded to hell anyway by most, so it's not an issue for me personally. I don't like touchwiz, but that's fixable with launchers.
If the Note was going to be on Verizon I would have thought about it. If it gets a CM9 port then it could be a killer phone. My brother-in-law imported one for his AT&T line and I got to play with it. VERYYY NICE.
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to each their own but please list a few phones that you consider above average
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I have nothing to prove to anyone. Just think the 2500 mAh battery, wacom digitizer and real-estate of the Note are worthy advantages.
Not going to launch into an I'VE FOUND THE JESUS PHONE debate. Most all modern phones are pretty close in performance/features anyway.
Just my preference. The Nexus is a great device, but not the absolute best ever. If it didn't have ICS, this forum would be lit up with endless *****ing.
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I have nothing to prove to anyone. Just think the 2500 mAh battery, wacom digitizer and real-estate of the Note are worthy advantages.
Not going to launch into an I'VE FOUND THE JESUS PHONE debate. Most all modern phones are pretty close in performance/features anyway.
Just my preference. The Nexus is a great device, but not the absolute best ever. If it didn't have ICS, this forum would be lit up with endless *****ing.
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If you don't have anything to prove then what was the purpose of creating this thread? If you want to sell your phone then go to the marketplace.
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Market place link is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=476
You shouldn't need to make a thread to justify your decision. Cool, you're going to the Galaxy Note, good luck. The Galaxy Nexus forum will continue the way it is without you.
If you didn't want a debate about Galaxy Nexus vs. Galaxy Note, then just post up your ad in the marketplace and be on your way. Simple as that.
This is a thread for discussion, not spam.
It's basically sold already, but thanks for the slap.
By the way, its not an ad. I simply mentioned it's available if anyone was interested, which several are so far.
An ad is a thread with the sole purpose of selling an item. This thread is not. Feel free to add to the discussion.
What are your thoughts on the Note vs. the Nexus?
Ok, so I feel that I've ruffled feathers. Will a mod please move this to the for sale forum so I can be a good senior member like I have been since 2006?
That way, XDA homeostasis is reached for all.
Thanks.
There are rumors that the Note is coming to ATT early next year with LTE. Nice, right? Except there is one problem...
They are replacing the Exynos with a Snapdragon S3.
They also had to do this with the Galaxy S2 on T-Mobile because the Exynos chipset apparently has problems playing nicely with high speed networks such as LTE and T-Mobiles 42 Mbps HSPA+ network.
Will make it exceptionally difficult to dev for. And since it's basically a different device with a different SoC, kiss frequent and timely updates goodbye.
If the Note appeals to you, go for it. Just saying, aside from the bigger screen, a S3-verison Note doesn't seem to have any huge advantage over the Nexus.
I've had both. The note is a great device, but IMO the GN is better overall.
I would of gotten a Note instead if it supported t-mobile, sigh.
I'm hoping by the time Note II comes out, samsung will have resolved the shortcomings of exynos' radios as well as samoled+ HD. I will jump all over that.
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I would of gotten a Note instead if it supported t-mobile, sigh.
I'm hoping by the time Note II comes out, samsung will have resolved the shortcomings of exynos' radios as well as samoled+ HD. I will jump all over that.
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X2
But I do love my galaxy nexus. As someone said, the only average thing about it is the camera
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Aren't you going from a big phone to an even bigger phone? That would drive me crazy plus the stylus is for the 80's.
But honestly? I've been tempted myself. The Note have NFC?
dont you think that note is jut too big? i never got note in my hands, but by comparassions videos on youtube (everything vs note) i get a little scared about how big it is...
also, why do you guys need so fast network for a phone?! 6mb is not good enough? what are you doing that need so high speed? video calling?!
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dont you think that note is jut too big? i never got note in my hands, but by comparassions videos on youtube (everything vs note) i get a little scared about how big it is...
also, why do you guys need so fast network for a phone?! 6mb is not good enough? what are you doing that need so high speed? video calling?!
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This argument is so old.
People on sprint/verizon don't get 6mbps. It's 1mbps or 4G, which do you think people would obviously prefer (barring battery issues)

Would you do this trade for your Nexus?

I know a guy in real life, he is offering me a Galaxy Note in exchange for the Nexus and $100. I am really one the fence. I like the phone, but it might be a bit too large, would you do this deal?
Illmatic662 said:
I know a guy in real life, he is offering me a Galaxy Note in exchange for the Nexus and $100. I am really one the fence. I like the phone, but it might be a bit too large, would you do this deal?
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I wouldn't do it. I had the phone, way too big it gets annoying.
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Have both devices. If you can cope with the size its a great day device overall. But Nexus is a Google phone meaning you get updates faster. Note you have to wait for Samsung to release their source
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would you do this deal?
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So you would have to pay him $100 to get the Note? No chance. What makes the Note worth $100 more than the Nexus? Samsungs amazing TouchWiz UI or their lazy update procedure?
Phone for phone without any payment could be acceptable for someone who is ok with that.
But then I wouldn't even take the Note if he was paying me $100, so I'm biased.
Nope , don't do it ..
Now if the $100 wasn't in the picture then it would be a decision worth thinking about or if he was giving you the $100 =P
Stick with the Nexus
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ive used both and i like the size of the nexus a lot better for a daily.
Wow amazing forum with lightning quick responses
Yes @ above. I would be giving him $100 and my Nexus. It's funny I even though I own the Nexus I already bought another replacement for this phone. This is why I am exploring selling/trading it.
Illmatic662 said:
Wow amazing forum with lightning quick responses
Yes @ above. I would be giving him $100 and my Nexus. It's funny I even though I own the Nexus I already bought another replacement for this phone. This is why I am exploring selling/trading it.
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Straight up trade or nothing and that's only if you think you could find use out of the Note. I know quite a few store owners who love it especially for their online sales as they can just take pictures of products and doodle on it and send it out to prospective customer.
My father's colleague, who's a Apple guy, switched to a Note also for simply one reason; He could have the text large enough to use it without his glasses on .
There are use cases for the Note for sure, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it like most on here would .
On that note, I wouldn't use one personally as again, it doesn't fit my use cases.
Don't do it, especially if you like rooting and such.
Not sure Samsung ironed out the brick bug, but it's not the device to have if you want to run anything other than stock. Even doing a factory reset was bricking them. Ridiculous.
I wouldn't do it either. Just because something retails for more money doesn't mean it is actually worth more. Then Nexus is a better phone, period.
SGN is a super nice gadjet , but Nexus is the most compatible with android , if it was me , I'll *****slap him with his 100 buks and keep my phone. but this is me, maybe you have a different opinion
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He should be paying you $100 plus the note to begin with, if you do it not only has he ended up with the better phone but he's robbed you $100 , just because the note retails for more new doesn't mean its the better device, look at the iPhone for example its inferior to the nexus but still costs more.
Keep your Nexus, it's still the backbone of Android.
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When i thought to buy a new phone, the first on the line was the Note. So i went to stores do "meet" it. First look, i feel disconfortable by its size and start looking other phones, so i saw the Nexus and it was love at the first sight. When i held it in my hand, i knew that i´ll be my phone.
It fits perfectly.
Today i think that if i bought the Note i was regret. Not only because the size, but the OS updates and customizations.
Keep your Nexus and be happy for the rest of it´s days.
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Keep your Gnex and the $$$ , add 99 more and get the nexus7.
So you ll be complete
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That phone is overpriced on retail. Don't do it. You already have the better phone of the two. Now, if we were talking about a galaxy 3...
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barroco said:
That phone is overpriced on retail. Don't do it. You already have the better phone of the two. Now, if we were talking about a galaxy 3...
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the galaxy s3 you mean I'm sure, the galaxy 3 is a budget phone..
Iwouldn't even trade for the s3 personally, I love this phone
I have both and if its the ATT version its worth it. The dev support over there isnt bad and once you get used to the size, which I did very quickly, I don't even use the nexus anymore as the screen is so much more vibrant. Just slap on an AOSP rom and it turns the note into a great phone/tablet.
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the galaxy s3 you mean I'm sure, the galaxy 3 is a budget phone..
Iwouldn't even trade for the s3 personally, I love this phone
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In my opinion the only S3 worht having is the international version as the US versions have been nerfed as they usually are by us carriers.
As to the OP keep your Nexus, I have friends who have the Note and they love it but development on it is nonexistant in comparison to the Nexus, heck my old Vibrant has more development going on right now.

[Buyers Remorse] Paid $710 for Note 2 and seeing the Nexus 4 selling for $350....

Just hoping to get some thoughts for or against the note 2 in regards to the press release regarding the nexus 4 with very similar specs going to sell for $350 out of contract.
I have to say my mind was blown, to have official updates as they roll out, and being able to have a large library of roms to choose from is a major selling point for me.
Looking to possibly keep the note 2, but I really am on the edge of my seat... thoughts about nexus 4/note 2 would be greatly appreciated.
I paid the same as you and I have no regrets. The Nexus looks to be an awesome device but the Note 2 is in its own category - are you forgetting that? And do I have to remind you about our amazing 5.5" RGB screen? I repeat, no regrets! I frickin love this thing.
Great specs and price on the nexus 4. I thought it would run about $450 at least for the phone with those specs.
I haven't got my note 2 yet but I am seriously considering getting the nexus 4 instead.
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tekmoe said:
I paid the same as you and I have no regrets. The Nexus looks to be an awesome device but the Note 2 is in its own category - are you forgetting that? And do I have to remind you about our amazing 5.5" RGB screen? I repeat, no regrets! I frickin love this thing.
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It is a beautiful screen, cant deny that Im just having trouble digesting the fact I could buy both the tablet and the phone for under $700... I could even eat the $50 restocking fee and still afford both... :/
Does anyone know where the cost are going?
Are devs jumping on the Equinos bandwagon?
I am thinking about the same thing. I love the screen and size, but I am not a fan of the smooth back. It feels like I am about to drop it bc its so slippery. I feel as if I am holding a priced possession rather than a phone. I have noticed myself being extra careful bc of the back and I don't want that. I wish the back had some kind of traction for grip. I am seriously thinking about returning this and buying a Nexus 4. And don't forget we can get a Nexus 4 and a Nexus 10 for what we paid for note 2.
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I am thinking about the same thing. I love the screen and size, but I am not a fan of the smooth back. It feels like I am about to drop it bc its so slippery. I feel as if I am holding a priced possession rather than a phone. I have noticed myself being extra careful bc of the back and I don't want that. I wish the back had some kind of traction for grip. I am seriously thinking about returning this and buying a Nexus 4. And don't forget we can get a Nexus 4 and a Nexus 10 for what we paid for note 2.
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Guys remember Nexus 4 is LG.....everybody know about LG baddddddddddddd batery life....soooooo.....think twice..
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Guys remember Nexus 4 is LG.....everybody know about LG baddddddddddddd batery life....soooooo.....think twice..
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I KNOW its LG, but its a STOCK NEXUS and I have faith in Google.
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Guys remember Nexus 4 is LG.....everybody know about LG baddddddddddddd batery life....soooooo.....think twice..
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I personally am going to try to push the return policy till almost the last day (14 days) So I can hear some early reviews on the nexus 4. I dont mind sticking with the note 2, but the true multi-tasking feature has not even been released yet (patiently waiting for samsung to update, never done that before)..... and that was kind of a huge setback for me.
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It is a beautiful screen, cant deny that Im just having trouble digesting the fact I could buy both the tablet and the phone for under $700... I could even eat the $50 restocking fee and still afford both... :/
Does anyone know where the cost are going?
Are devs jumping on the Equinos bandwagon?
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Yes, you can buy both devices for less than $700 but then of course you have two devices. If that does not matter to you, I say go for it. I sold my iPad and GS3 to downsize to a single device. So far I am loving it.
btw IF I do decide to return the note 2, I am sure as hell going to miss the pop out video player. I am in love with that.
LG... lol after my g2x I learned my lesson. No thanks. Even if they paid me
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I'm thinking about returning my note 2 too. I believe it's 30 days if you buy it at full price.... Could be wrong though
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I'm thinking about returning my note 2 too. I believe it's 30 days if you buy it at full price.... Could be wrong though
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I bought it off-contract as well, at full price, but I still think it's only 14 days.
The S-Pen should be a major factor when buying a Note 2. If you are simply using it as a phone or web browser, I think your original purchase of a Note was the problem. If you paid $700 for a product that will help you be more productive, then it's money well spent. If you paid $700 for a toy... not sure what that makes your money, just know it's not well spent.
Notes are productivity investments, tis why the Note 1 still sells for well over $500 new. If you define the word "need" for yourself, you will never have to worry. (side note, the current Nexus can't be beat when it comes to Dev support, and it's cheaper still... so there's that)
I'm actually very surprised at the high amount of people from this forum, that jumped so fast on the note 2 before Google announced what they were bringing out. ( official specs, not speculation)
The question is..... Is removable memory, bigger screen, spen, worth double, not to mention the wireless charging?
I have a g tab 2.7, and like Samsung.
I do miss the amoled screen of my N1 though.
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I'm actually very surprised at the high amount of people from this forum, that jumped so fast on the note 2 before Google announced what they were bringing out. ( official specs, not speculation)
The question is..... Is removable memory, bigger screen, spen, worth double, not to mention the wireless charging?
I have a g tab 2.7, and like Samsung.
I do miss the amoled screen of my N1 though.
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I just wish I could buy a Nexus type back cover. Something with a little grip. I don't use/need cases, just need a back cover with grip. Is that too much to ask? lol
teshxx said:
btw IF I do decide to return the note 2, I am sure as hell going to miss the pop out video player. I am in love with that.
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You can get the same thing with the dice player
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You can get the same thing with the dice player
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ooo I didn't know that. Thanks
I bought my note2 not only for the screen and specs but more important is the stylus. if not for the stylus I would go for the One X+
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btw IF I do decide to return the note 2, I am sure as hell going to miss the pop out video player. I am in love with that.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImdwYy5teXdlYi5oaW5ldC5uZXQuUG9wdXBWaWRlbyJd

AT&T: Note 2 or HTC One?

TL;DR? Read the title. Nitty-gritty is below.
My Verizon contract is done in May. But I have a deal where I can go to AT&T for free. That being said, at $88 a month on vzw, does it really make sense to wait for the new round of galaxy devices? The money I'd save leaving Verizon would pay for the phone in full by that time. I've got nothing to use on AT&T in the meantime.
It makes economic sense to leave vzw as soon as I can. That being said, the HTC one is coming out in a few weeks, right at the end of my billing cycle. My first and only smartphone has been this thunderbolt. I'm accustomed to HTC and sense. But the lack of swappable battery and SD card slot is something I'd consider a drawback. I can also trade in this tbolt for $100 with their trade in incentive program.
But of all the phones out right now, the Note 2 is the one I want. It just seems to be the perfect phone. I'm just worried about getting it so late in the game. I bet AT&T still charges full price for it too, probably $300 on contract, right? If I got a note, I'd probably want to sell it and put the proceeds toward the note 3, when it gets here...if it isn't 6 inches like the rumors say.
I care about rooting and flashing ROMs. I'd have smashed my bolt by now without those things. HTC seems to be locking down their stuff a lot these days, and if not them, then the US carriers. Is sammy any better?
Seems like the cheapest thing to do would be to ditch vzw asap, and score a HTC One and cash in on $100 for my old tbolt. And while I generally like HTC (wife has a HOX), I can't help shaking the feeling that I should get a note instead.
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I would wait for the S4 announcement. Then decide between that and the One.
Yes, wait until the S4 announcement and buy a used S3 on craigslist to carry you over until GN3. The sd card, replaceable battery, and S Pen are 3 important features. The LCD screen on HTC One X is one feature over GN2 but maybe a non issue with future GN3. BTW, GN2 has a ton of incredible developers on XDA.
I own the GN2 and HTC One XL through ATT. The GN2 is all I use.
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I'm always in a time crunch and end up with HTC because of it. I wanted the SGS2 in march of 2011, but at the time there were no signs it would be on Verizon, and we all knew unlimited data would be getting canned soon. So, I took a thunderbolt instead.
Now it appears to be the same problem. See, I'm not a "gets a new phone every three months" kinda guy. I have my phone for two years. I want those two years to be as tolerable as possible. Before ICS "officially" came out, my Tbolt felt like crap. Only now with an official release is it finally great again. Honestly, I could stay right here for awhile now, and be good.
But I'm cheap. I want to stop paying Verizon immediately, and start saving. To that end, I need something that'll work on AT&T. The line's there, the upgrade's there; it just seems silly to wait. You might be right about picking up an interim phone.
I just wonder if the note 2 will be valid for two years starting now? I also don't like how AT&T is still charging $ 300 plus a two year agreement for these things. Maybe I should get the one (probably $200 on contract), take advantage of the $100 trade in offer, and sell the one when the note 3 comes out...
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What determines to you whether or not a phone is still valid? I, like you, am planning on my next phone to last 2 years. The phone I have now is still valid in my opinion because the developer forums are very active even today. I think this phone will be more relevant two years from now than the HTC One. Like others said though, at least wait until the GS4 announcement, that may bring some price drops on the Note 2.
At the rate they are going now I don't think htc will be there to support anyone in a year or two.
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What determines to you whether or not a phone is still valid? I, like you, am planning on my next phone to last 2 years. The phone I have now is still valid in my opinion because the developer forums are very active even today. I think this phone will be more relevant two years from now than the HTC One. Like others said though, at least wait until the GS4 announcement, that may bring some price drops on the Note 2.
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Also remember gadgets change every year! That's how company's make money. But besides that, they're making the chips smaller & smaller! So that just means bigger and better things for us. As of right now the screen of choice is going to be HD on everything, that's coming out. So depending on if you want LCD, Slcd, OLED, or Pen Tile displays. There's all going to be different in that aspect. So if you can hold out, which is what I'm telling my girl to do. But she may wait fir the GN3! Hey on 3/14 we'll know what the S4 is about :thumbup:.
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Check this video out a lil something that they do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLNsYecX_2Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Note: Those new machines he's working on those now! 24/7 chip making
Wow...
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What determines to you whether or not a phone is still valid?
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Dev support is part of it. The thunderbolt forums were getting pretty sparse until ICS dropped. My phone was laggy, had modest battery life, and was seemingly stuck on gingerbread.
Specs might be somewhat less important now, but in 2011 phones were still becoming more powerful by an incredible factor. That seems to have slowed a bit of late. I don't know when a quad core phone with a big battery and 720p resolution will become obsolete.
Surely the ability to switch batteries and expand memory should prolong its life. But purchasing the one, besides potentially being cheaper, seems like a safer bet on the time/obsolescence scale. At this point the note 2 is somewhat old.
I really don't think we're witnessing the death knell of HTC any more than we are Apple's. They just aren't a household name to noobs like "the galaxy" and the "iphone." For what it's worth, I like HTC, and have to imagine them as the number 3 company that makes smartphones after Sammy and Apple.
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I'm going to say wait until the S4 announcement later this week. If you can get a chance to play with the One in store then do so. I don't know how it would feel in your hand compared to the Note 2. I personally am going to wait until the S4 or the Note 3 because I think Samsung is the leading manufacturer for Android phones in terms of overall experience. That being said the note 2 has a badass battery and I don't think that the One will be anywhere close to the note in that regards but let's see.... Only time will tell..
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Why get the HTC One now? They're going to release a HTC One+ 1-3 months from now like they did with the One X. Stick with Samsung :thumbup:.
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I use the S-Pen and the note function on my SGN2 constantly ... it is my most used feature on the phone. I'm not going to try and understand what you need ... but, you should. I wouldn't buy a phone without the pen and note function ... but, you might be different. Decide if you need the note functions on the Note 2 ... if you do to be productive ... then your decision is already made. Wait a few days to see the Galaxy 4 ... just in case it gets the S-Pen. ATT just started selling the Note 2 in October. It may be a while before the Note 3 arrives.
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I use the S-Pen and the note function on my SGN2 constantly ... it is my most used feature on the phone. I'm not going to try and understand what you need ... but, you should. I wouldn't buy a phone without the pen and note function ... but, you might be different. Decide if you need the note functions on the Note 2 ... if you do to be productive ... then your decision is already made. Wait a few days to see the Galaxy 4 ... just in case it gets the S-Pen. ATT just started selling the Note 2 in October. It may be a while before the Note 3 arrives.
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NOTE 3, well most likely b out this year also. Rumoured to b 5.9- 6.3 inches. But time will tell us all, what's in store for us. And things to coming soon!!
So we just have to wait & see
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NOTE 3, well most likely b out this year also. Rumoured to b 5.9- 6.3 inches. But time will tell us all, what's in store for us. And things to coming soon!!
So we just have to wait & see
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Note 2 refurbished is now $9.99 on Att online. Of course this is 3 days after the return of period on my New one!
With the refurb offer, hmmm. If I take that, then I retain my 'bolt...which I would have traded in for HTC'S one deal. This way I keep the phone and can sell it with the accessories, mebbe for more on swappa...
I know it's refurb, but I usually roll with insurance anyway...
Very very tempted here...
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The Note 2 refurb is actually $0.99 today only while supplies last. I ordered one a couple hours ago.
As long as I have access to the community's knowledgebase, then I don't see how a refurb could be bad. (famous last words,eh?)
What do you suppose the most common reason for returning a Note 2 is?
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With the refurb offer, hmmm. If I take that, then I retain my 'bolt...which I would have traded in for HTC'S one deal. This way I keep the phone and can sell it with the accessories, mebbe for more on swappa...
I know it's refurb, but I usually roll with insurance anyway...
Very very tempted here...
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Actually, for anyone who's worrying about this being refurbished, they will definitely replace the phone in question with a brand new model if problems do arise. My mom bought an iPhone 4 (refurbished) a few years back and it didn't work correctly from day one, so she brought it to the Apple Store and they gave her a brand new one. My Samsung Galaxy S II (refurbished) fried itself right before my 90 day warranty ended and I took it to AT&T and they gave me a new one.
My point is, if you can get a MUCH better deal on a refurb, don't hesitate to get it because AT&T/Apple/whoever will replace it if it does have a problem and you will probably end up with a new phone anyhow.
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As long as I have access to the community's knowledgebase, then I don't see how a refurb could be bad. (famous last words,eh?)
What do you suppose the most common reason for returning a Note 2 is?
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So did you end up buying it? Please say you did!
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REAL competition for the GN2..

This phone looks like the real deal...coming next week to ATT..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moj5lOn2KUk
No stylus, so not really in the same league IMO. Although it does look like a VERY nice phone.
I really like the notification light on it. Pretty cool
This will probably be moved to This Thread.
GN2 still has the better software and the S-Pen. Invaluable now that I'm hooked on using it for work.
Looks cool, but some things look a lil cheaper on the LG. As ^^^^^^^ said no S-pen!! Big factor 4 me.. And one other 1960's edition they added to the phone. Who the hell would b sitting there with an antenna sticking out there smartphone. I bought my daughter a LG, when Windows phone's were popular, and it too had an stupid antenna on it also??
Wtf 4, too listen to the radio
That's what streaming is for!!
I'll stick to my Sammy's :thumbup:
Just my 2¢®
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Looks like the reviewer reviewed the Korean version of the LG phone and the International version of the GN2. In Korea they still have over the air TV for cell phones so those models have that wacky antenna.
In the US I suppose we could use the antenna to poke people in the eyes, tamper with crime scenes, and stir our morning coffee...
Pretty nice phone...IMHO
But as mentioned, the gnote is just the better device. And with no pen or multi-window, it would be custom rom city right out of the gate to get it working.
I'd better sit tight with my note 2 for now.....g
well, since lots of folks dont use their S-pen, myself sort of included, I would be fine with a super phone that didnt have one; plus that screen looks lucious...
Obvioiusly, most folks with a GN2 arent interested, but, my wife, still on the GN, might get one of these so I can play with it!
the Dev work on LG is nothing like for Sammy either, but, here again, lots of folks dont root or care about tweaking things, and this will be a nice alternative for them..
I've had good luck with other LG products in my house, so I wouldnt have any problems buying this phone, if I didnt have a GN2..
Omg!!!!! The size of that antenna. Lulzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Omg!!!!! The size of that antenna. Lulzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Lmfao that's what I said, woah......
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Eeewww it's an LG.
Don't think I could give up on Samsung just yet. Screen is nice though.
Oh yeh....about the antenna....uh......no...LOL...g
as someone else said earlier, that antenna is for TV reception that they get over in Korea...
that would be a real "attention getter" if you whipped that puppy out at Starbucks, and extended the antenna!!
EDIT: Here is a review of the ATT model..
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/01/lg-optimus-g-pro-atandt-hands-on/
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