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I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
JWhipple said:
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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It's not really about speed. But with a custom ROM you definitely have more customizations possible. You can change the look of the interface, the notification toggles, colors etc. I have the i9100, which is another variant of the SGS2 and I've had ICS for a couple of months now, but it's not getting officially released until this month some time. So, it's not really about speed but rather about the freedom to do other things with it. Some people might cite benchmark tests, and scream that I'm wrong, but the hardware is what makes your phone fast...the software's not at all going to choke that out (whether stock or custom). As far as speed goes, you're probably not going to notice the difference.
Also, though you've got root access which enables you to install apps and do things you just can't do otherwise.
All that said, there are certain advantages to stock. It's often times more stable than something custom. There are ups and downs. If you feel the need to experiment, you can always flash back. Just read a lot before you get your feet wet (it is very possible to brick your device if you muck it up) and you'll be fine.
I don't think so. I'm going to get flamed plenty I'm sure but I don't see much improvement over how my phone performed out of the box. I think the battery life may even have been better before I started flashing stuff.
I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...
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I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...
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After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.
I didn't think you were new to Android since your account is almost 4 years old so I'd assumed you were familiar with all the "benefits" of rooting. The phone is so nice out of the box I don't think any of the roms are any smoother or better on battery. I think Warfare is probably the best on battery and for me CM7 was easliy the worst. I didn't notice a change in data speed, 2d smoothness, 3d smoothness, battery cover smoothness... Nothing. The device is so nice out of the box and I don't use it for anything other than a phone, text messaging, web browsing, e-mail, Skype, the occasional slicing of fruit or a word or two with friends so I can't comment on all the added functionality all the "super-duper heavy users" of this device probably use on custom roms. The only reason mine is rooted is for an ad host file and the occasional tether.
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sean is here. said:
After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.
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When I had a Fascinate... I was a huge fan of overclocking and undervolting. The same when I had a Thunderbolt. It made everything smoother and the Thunderbolt especially needed help in the battery area. This device just works. No need for anything other than what it came with for me. Obviously that didn't stop me from flashing the development section... But hey, I have a problem.
Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
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JWhipple said:
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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the thing with our device is that it came sooo sick straight out of the box that you don't really need to improve it that much. However, custom ROMs/kernels generally make the ROMs smoother, but not many people notice the difference.
I actually notice that because of the kernels implemented with certain ROMs, our phone is able to RUN just as smooth at a lower clockspeed which saves us battery. Other than that, I don't think Custom ROMs are actually "SMOOTHER" or faster than the stock ROM because Samsung really did well on this phone.
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Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
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I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
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I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
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The main difference is the bloatware which really does make an impact on speed, memory consumption and overall smoothness.
Some rom cook faster, you should choose the rom cook by team have many vote on forum.
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I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?
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Don't want to root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTgvLPOYLg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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What the hell does this have to do with the discussion?
Chochiwpg said:
I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?
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Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.
Problem with SlickMOD is that the dev's T989 broke and he isn't getting another one - so - development has HALTED.
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Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.
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Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.
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Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.
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Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?
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Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?
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It's the Stock ROM that came with my phone. I rooted the phone but haven't flashed any custom kernel's or custom ROMs on my phone. I also use Zeam Launcher as opposed to the TW Launcher by default. I have turned off animations, limited my homescreens to 3. I don't use too many widgets and I use an all black background. Also running Juice Defender to help with battery but I don't think that affects performance/speed.
Model Number = SGH-T898D
Android Version = 2.3.5
Baseband Version = T989DTLKJ3
Kernel Version = 2.6.35.11
Build Number = GINGERBREAD.TLKJ3
I don't know if that helps or answers your question. Hope that helps.
I'm willing to bet that the performance gains that are being seen on the Stock ROMs is due to the fact that they are ODEXed. By DeODEXing the ROMs can be customized to the cook's heart's content, but there is a mild performance hit taken.
Thoughts?
So I'm new to the android community coming from an iphone 4S, and so far it's pretty awesome. lol. I've tried two ROM's, AOKP and TuchMi. So far i'm enjoying TuchMi since it brings the stock with all of Samsung's features, plus overclocking, V6 and all that. performance has been nice. As i'm trying to get more into android, I wanted to know you guy's thoughts on the two ROM's or maybe any other ones that might be better?? thanks in advance!
Stock, the best!
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Stock, the best!
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Just plain stock?? really think so??? Thing about AOKP, is the customizations.
Wanams Rom
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I was hoping this thread to run good since I am trying to get an idea on roms since I just got my S III today.
We got enough good roms going.
I mean we have a subsidized carrier phone, so it's pretty natural for the international counterpart would get more attention.
With that said, I love AOKP.
AOKP is beast. Just trying to test out different ROM's, but seriously, if you like touchwiz, check it out. Only thing is, my apps say they are invalid when I download. Any help??
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Also tried TuchMi, it was pretty good.
Currently using the diet ICS build from 08/04 with the latest BLUE theme installed (found in the diet ICS thread from peterguru) and it looks and works great. Running ktoonz latest kernel (which allows underclocking to 192MHz and has more steps than faux123's v009) and smokin's CPU Editor with Battery Saver. Great battery life, great performance, awesome blue "diet" theme. Probably my favorite so far.
To be honest though the thing that made me switch and flash diet ICS over TuchMi 5.0 was the inclusion of Google Wallet (although now my phone thinks its a Galaxy Nexus ) -- still haven't been able to test it out in the wild though...
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Also tried TuchMi, it was pretty good.
Currently using the diet ICS build from 08/04 with the latest BLUE theme installed (found in the diet ICS thread from peterguru) and it looks and works great. Running ktoonz latest kernel (which allows underclocking to 192MHz and has more steps than faux123's v009) and smokin's CPU Editor with Battery Saver. Great battery life, great performance, awesome blue "diet" theme. Probably my favorite so far.
To be honest though the thing that made me switch and flash diet ICS over TuchMi 5.0 was the inclusion of Google Wallet (although now my phone thinks its a Galaxy Nexus ) -- still haven't been able to test it out in the wild though...
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I've been seeing alot about diet. So you say its a good one? Think i might flash it tonight.
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AOKP has been wonderful so far, flashed it from CM9 and not really seeing any reason to go back although both are great in their own ways.
Wanam has a really nice ROM. Well that's if you're one of us that actually likes Touchwiz. I for one love it. Smooth and excellent battery life.
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Just plain stock?? really think so??? Thing about AOKP, is the customizations.
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I've been on TuchMi-S3"X" 5.0 since i got my phone 2 weeks ago. So far the best. I tried Diet rom too, but it was a little skinny for me (lol?).
I tried AOKP today and I had used AOKP on my Atrix before, but I went back to TuchMis3x right away because its so far the best. Stable, Battery is insane too!
I'm just waiting for CM10 to fully come out for our phones and i'll make the switch!
Sooo, I switched from TuchMi to AOKP, and right after, my battery starts to drain. Drained about 5% within 2min. Running TuchMi, my battery barely moves. Now I'd have to say that it is successfully the best ROM imo. only problems are: my Google account syncs on and off with contacts, and sometimes i get a blue screen fracture. idk.
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Sooo, I switched from TuchMi to AOKP, and right after, my battery starts to drain. Drained about 5% within 2min. Running TuchMi, my battery barely moves. Now I'd have to say that it is successfully the best ROM imo. only problems are: my Google account syncs on and off with contacts, and sometimes i get a blue screen fracture. idk.
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If your battery drained that fast then something is wrong. Almost 11 hours on battery with 2 hours of screen time, lte on all day and wifi on past 3 hours and I am sitting at 62% right now. I am on aokp ics right now. Only thing keeping me from newer updates is that HBO go doesn't work in any of the cm10 based in roms yet that I know of
I would also like to point out that it takes several battery cycles before a rom fully settles in and you find out how it truly performs with battery.
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If your battery drained that fast then something is wrong. Almost 11 hours on battery with 2 hours of screen time, lte on all day and wifi on past 3 hours and I am sitting at 62% right now. I am on aokp ics right now. Only thing keeping me from newer updates is that HBO go doesn't work in any of the cm10 based in roms yet that I know of
I would also like to point out that it takes several battery cycles before a rom fully settles in and you find out how it truly performs with battery.
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Thanks for that. Like I said, I'm new to this so I didn't know what was going on, so the first thing that came to my mind was to go back. Now I just flashed the AOKP jb ROM. The AOKP that i had before was the CM9 based one i believe? lol. Either way, thanks man. added a little more confidence for me lol.
Jellybro from Euroskank the best one for my needs. not the last one though. 2 days battery, butter smooth, love the Jelly aesthetics and simplicity.
When the bugs are worked out of paranoid android I would say give that a run. The ability to run phone and tablet on one device together flawlessly is great. Plus you ave full control over the size of all apps and the such.
JellyBro is my top pick, then would be a stock ROM ([ROM]{??/??/????}TEAM_INSOMNIA PrEsEnTs ARISTODEMOS) and after that I'd say AOKP CM9 based for EXTREMELY long battery life.
been using cm9 for a few days, perfectly stable so far and great battery life. Can't beat stock ics
Blazer
I have been on Blazer O/C with the Kalagas mixed ICS Theme and love it. Seems all the stock based ROMS are fine with some nice tweaks
Just curious as I just got my S3 today (came from the evo lte) loving it so far. running paranoid 4.1.1 right now and like it just a few little bugs here and there with camera/alarm and mms so thinking of going to a stock looking samsung rom.
Just wondering what is everyones favorite rom for overall performance/battery life and just least amount of bugs. Like everything to work just hoping to get some optimizations and tweaks to make the phone perform better than what samsung puts out.
Looked at Blazer ROM and seems like the best from a few minutes of reading.
Once again thanks
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Just curious as I just got my S3 today (came from the evo lte) loving it so far. running paranoid 4.1.1 right now and like it just a few little bugs here and there with camera/alarm and mms so thinking of going to a stock looking samsung rom.
Just wondering what is everyones favorite rom for overall performance/battery life and just least amount of bugs. Like everything to work just hoping to get some optimizations and tweaks to make the phone perform better than what samsung puts out.
Looked at Blazer ROM and seems like the best from a few minutes of reading.
Once again thanks
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Never had a problem with Blazer... I've flashed lots of ROMs and I always end up back on Blazer.
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Never had a problem with Blazer... I've flashed lots of ROMs and I always end up back on Blazer.
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thanks, downloading it now. I absolutely love stock android with running paranoid android rom. Just between the few bugs even though very rare. the samsung camera app is better imo.
Just cant wait for a 4.1.1 rom from samsung. I saw one but doesnt seem too complete.
I like jellybomb and I get great battery life
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I like jellybomb and I get great battery life
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Jellybomd is solid, still liked Blazer more. Paranoid will own once its completely stable. Thought about flashing anakonda tonight.... very highly themed and I've heard good things.
OdexedBlue is what I always go back to. I've used Blazer, FreeGS3, JB Leak LIF, and stock rooted. There's no comparison.
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FreeGS3 with Trinity kernel, same stock feel with the little tweets here and there. Undervolted and overclocked, though I usually run stock speed. I get easily 13-15 hours with 4-5 hours screen on time.
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Jellybomd is solid, still liked Blazer more. Paranoid will own once its completely stable. Thought about flashing anakonda tonight.... very highly themed and I've heard good things.
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been on anakonda for a couple weeks, definitely diggin it, kinda torn between it, and wicked sensations with the anakonda theme, but i like using wifi tether on ICS for encryption purposes and a couple of the wicked sensations morphs look pretty nice with anakonda. battery life is great on both roms and i havent had a single FC problem with either of them, also quite speedy.... big fan of team venum
Stock Freeza's DeoDexed ROM. I themed it the way I want using Morphology, and I absolutely love it. I have a themed stock messaging app (always wanted this) centered clock and everything.
Get about full day and a half on battery, and that's texting, calling and using some data.
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Just curious as I just got my S3 today (came from the evo lte) loving it so far. running paranoid 4.1.1 right now and like it just a few little bugs here and there with camera/alarm and mms so thinking of going to a stock looking samsung rom.
Just wondering what is everyones favorite rom for overall performance/battery life and just least amount of bugs. Like everything to work just hoping to get some optimizations and tweaks to make the phone perform better than what samsung puts out.
Looked at Blazer ROM and seems like the best from a few minutes of reading.
Once again thanks
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I'm a fan of Wicked Sensations and FreeGS3 ROMs. I've used both as everyday ROMs, and have had zero problems with both. FreeGS3 is more closer to stock look and use, and Wicked is a very cool themed blue (Wicked also has a green/orange theme named AnaKonda that is just as cool). When I don't use and abuse my phone in terms of videos/browsing/social media, etc, I get great battery life from both. Just my $.02.
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Just curious as I just got my S3 today (came from the evo lte) loving it so far. running paranoid 4.1.1 right now and like it just a few little bugs here and there with camera/alarm and mms so thinking of going to a stock looking samsung rom.
Just wondering what is everyones favorite rom for overall performance/battery life and just least amount of bugs. Like everything to work just hoping to get some optimizations and tweaks to make the phone perform better than what samsung puts out.
Looked at Blazer ROM and seems like the best from a few minutes of reading.
Once again thanks
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I myself just came from the evo lte i also like a rom with the samsung look. i really like a rom that still includes the motion for the s3, thats one of my favorite parts of the phone. but i have been using peoples rom and it has a launcher , or touch wiz 5x6 or 5x5 column that you can choose from. it also allows you to choose what samsung apps you would like to install with it as well. it is blue colored but it still has the same layout just different icons. i really enjoy it and i haven't had to many bugs.
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I myself just came from the evo lte i also like a rom with the samsung look. i really like a rom that still includes the motion for the s3, thats one of my favorite parts of the phone. but i have been using peoples rom and it has a launcher , or touch wiz 5x6 or 5x5 column that you can choose from. it also allows you to choose what samsung apps you would like to install with it as well. it is blue colored but it still has the same layout just different icons. i really enjoy it and i haven't had to many bugs.
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TPR is a great rom. However, Everyone's experience and choices will vary.. So typically, Threads like this are quickly closed/locked.. Just spend some time with roms that interest you.. And see what you personally think of them.
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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Leave it stock but rooted for the first few days to see what you think. Many think the extra features and that its stable and fast are worth staying stock based. Still a lot of others opt for cm or aokp regardless. Just give em both their fsir chance!
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flash the latest cm10 nightly. They work for Samsung and all
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Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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That is why I didn't ask if I should flash CM 10 or not. I very simply asked what the differences were between stock and CM 10. I am wondering what features I will have with stock that I will lose with CM 10 and vice versa. That is a very fair question to ask of people who have already used both. I am trying to avoid trying both by going through a hassle and having to reinstall my programs and reconfigure my settings multiple times if I don't have to.
You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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Wifi calling doesn't work on CM 10? I have been using it on CM 7 for my G2x.
So do you miss any of those Samsung features? I guess are they gimmicky or actually nice to have? From reviews, I have read that stock is really fast, so not sure if I gain speed by going to CM. Have you noticed speed improvements with CM 10 over stock?
I know but its so deeply integrated into framework and settings now its a pain. And no I personally don't miss those gimmicky features, but allot of people do. I stick to tw roms, because of battery. It always seems to last longer on stock based roms for me. Otherwise I prefer cm based roms. Lets just say I'll be moving to cm as soon as I feel it is closer to 100% in my eyes. Or the nexus 4 lol. And the only way I can feel it being 100% is by me testing it, not asking others. That's what I meant with my 1st post.
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I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:
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I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:
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Very well said. :good:
I personally never ever ran a touchwiz or sense ROMs on any device I've ever owned for more than a day. I just missed the full control cm ROMs give. Ever since my HD2 I've ran cm7 up to cm10 on my s3. I really never notice the features being lost from a tw ROM mostly because I don't use them. Never really thought their "advertised" features were all that.
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I am running on a CM10 based rom and the only stock Samsung feature I miss is the Smart Stay. Everything else was just too gimmicky
Pretty sure there is an app for most of the samsung features.
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I stuck to stock ICS TW for a couple of days and I didn't enjoy it.
It just seemed too much and I wanted a closer to stock experience.
Made the switch to CM10. Greatest thing ever.
It's simple, effective, and works in pretty much every way that I would like.
The only thing that I miss from TW is the Messaging app.
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I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.
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Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.
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May I know why? I'm right now with the Galaxy SI and on CM10, hoping to get the S3 and on the same dilemma. Right now my Skype works well on the CM10, Viber works only on speaker phone.
Having tried cm 10/aokp as well as TW ROMs for extended periods of time, I can say the following:
Although at first missing a certain TW feature might seem like a drawback- the feeling comes from what you're used to, and after a few days or week you will likely forget those features which you previously had which you thought were so important. For me the TW calendar (s Planner) was the big thing I was missing- since for a while I really couldn't find a good substitute which looked as good and performed as well! Finally I found one, so now I don't even compare anymore, but even if I hadn't found a substitute I'm sure I would have moved on at some point.
Point is, base your choice on the majority of the benefits that you'll get from the respective ROM. Personally, I like aokp/cm10 precisely because of its overall simplistic aesthetic ( I'm in love with the native jelly bean fonts used in the notification bar) and its native ability to theme. In terms of performance and extra tweaks, there are plenty of custom TW ROMs which are on par with the aosp ones (IMO). So I think it comes down to the overall feel/look, and pure personal preference.
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jimbo831 said:
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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you will lose wifi calling, you will lose the ability to upload music straight from the music player to drop box, you will lose your mind, however, once you run a JB ROM and use google now for the first time, and you will go ape over the amount of customization available to cm10 users.
honestly, used "stock" for about 3 weeks when i first got my device back in july, flashed cm10, and never looked back. words cannot describe how amazing and feature-packed a cm10 ROM is...
flash hellfire 1.3 (if you don't mind the red), and give slim bean a shot if you don't want the red. I have had nothing but positive results with those two.
also, follow my guide in this section for the flashing process.
good luck.
WiFi calling
For me WiFi calling is the biggest feature, and extremely important. I don't have T-Mobile signal in my lab, where I spend most of the time and WiFi calling is the only hope. This is why I'm staying with the stock for now.
But if anyone can show me a way to get WiFi calling on CM10, I will be really thankful. Hate the stock rom from the bottom of my heart!!
-Thanks
The camera on cm10 is whats holding me back but once they come out with cm10.1 based on JB 4.2 then i think ill root and rom my phone.
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Hello guys,
I'm new to the whole rooting game and I'm looking up new ROMs for my phone just to see what each team offers. Right now I'm using JellyBomb it's pretty dope but I'm not a big fan of the blue and black. Haha So if you can tell me what ROM you're using and why I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks!
RobTheHuman said:
Hello guys,
I'm new to the whole rooting game and I'm looking up new ROMs for my phone just to see what each team offers. Right now I'm using JellyBomb it's pretty dope but I'm not a big fan of the blue and black. Haha So if you can tell me what ROM you're using and why I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1639 Android Development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1691 Original Development
Shop around Find what works best for you
I'll typically run The People's Rom or Mother of All Roms (MOAR) Can't go wrong with any, We are lucky to have a great group of developers for the S3, so there are so many options, customization's, Kernels and things, just gotta try till you find the best fit for you and your needs.
I am currently using Goodness and it's running like a champ.
TPR all the way best rom there is
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Liquid Smooth RC2. Running Android 4.2.2 which are S3's probably won't be getting until the summer. Plus it's smooth as hell!
Im using sac23's ChemistryROM/Agat kernal. My favorite so far with multiwindow. Excellent battery life, oc'd to 1.7
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Im using sac23's ChemistryROM/Agat kernal. My favorite so far with multiwindow. Excellent battery life, oc'd to 1.7
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Just a question... how often do you even use the multi-view lol? I just honestly don't see how/when it'd ever come in handy... besides to "show it off" but even then, our screens are not big enough for it really... hence why it was a Note II feature originally!
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Just a question... how often do you even use the multi-view lol? I just honestly don't see how/when it'd ever come in handy... besides to "show it off" but even then, our screens are not big enough for it really... hence why it was a Note II feature originally!
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I thought I would never use it, but now I no longer use folders on my desktop, except for games. I just open apps (wether 1 or 2)from sidebar. I really use it more and more everyday. So theres not an instance where you wanna open an app without closing another 1. I use the sidebar to open even just 1 app, easier than folders to me.
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Right now, I'm loving liquidsmooth rc2. Smooth, fast, and great battery when combined with the BMS kernel
I'm about to try peoples, it seems pretty nice. I was gonna try Liquidsmooth 4.2.2 but it doesn't have photosphere and I really love that camera!
You can always flash the stock 4.2 camera with photosphere. I did that and am currently using two stock cameras on my phone. I don't have the link readily available on my phone, but I'll try to get it to you by morning, when I'm back up on my laptop.
You could also search for it over in the apps and mods section, I think if you search for "photosphere" you can find it over there (pretty sure that's where I found it).
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I'm currently running Pac v. 21.0.0.
Question, does this ROM have boosted audio? Reason I ask is because even when not using the built-in DSP Manager, my music sounds horrible no matter what music app I use. It sounds like its boosted a lot but makes my headphones cut out almost. I like to stick with AOSP Roms and like AOKP but would like a ROM with no audio tweaks whatsoever. Thanks. PM me some info. Thanks.
I would recommend liquidsmooth, if you don't run across the issue of reverting back to the the nv subscription after rebooting.Other than that, the rom is, so far, the smoothest rom i have seen as of yet.
With most 4.2.x roms, you are bound to run into a problem, either big or small, only because its relatively new. 4.1.2 is generally more stable because its been around for so long.
Liquid Smooth is now stable. HIGHLYYYY recommended. When I first started to flash ROMs I flashed like literally 5 a day... then I found Liquid Smooth a week into my flashing addiction and this ROM has cured my addiction. I have yet to flash another since Liquid Smooth came out (over a month ago).
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Liquid Smooth is now stable. HIGHLYYYY recommended. When I first started to flash ROMs I flashed like literally 5 a day... then I found Liquid Smooth a week into my flashing addiction and this ROM has cured my addiction. I have yet to flash another since Liquid Smooth came out (over a month ago).
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Yeah I just flashed to liquid smooth yesterday and I love it! Way better then jelly bomb.
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Joe0113 said:
Liquid Smooth is now stable. HIGHLYYYY recommended. When I first started to flash ROMs I flashed like literally 5 a day... then I found Liquid Smooth a week into my flashing addiction and this ROM has cured my addiction. I have yet to flash another since Liquid Smooth came out (over a month ago).
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Yeah, for me both CarbonRom and LiquidSmooth have been my consistent ROMs. The only time I flash other ones is when I'm trying to help troubleshoot problems for others here on XDA.
+1 liquidsmooth stable.
i am currently using Miui rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087638
i have also recently been using unofficial Carbon http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2193751
but was on the port of AOSP 3.10 rom for the longest time http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142668
I'm also enjoying LiquidSmooth. I've flashed quite a few TW and AOSP/KP roms recently and this is the best so far. Zero problems (OK - one very minor aesthetic annoyance, but I'm letting that go).