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[Q] Best Practice to extend phone memory

Hi there,
I have successfully rooted and tweaked my Wildfire a few weeks ago and did some fine tuning since then (a lot to be honest).
XDA Developers has been a great help (obviously) but I got stuck at a few points.
There's especially one thing I'm a bit confused about: there seem to exist mainly four methods/ways to gain more internal memory:
re-partition the system, cache and data partitions
use Apps2SD (CM7)
use Darktremor Script
set up an ext partition on the SD card and move apps there (different methods)
Some of them could be used in combination.
I've read and experimented a lot but - as I said - I got stuck and a bit confused so I'll ask here for opinions/hints and probably a bit more clarification.
As you can see in my specs below I've already adjusted my internal partitions. Although I've gained a lot more space with that and being very selective which apps to install I don't feel lucky with my 312Mb.
My questions:
What would you choose to gain more space on the phone? Making an ext partition on SD or simply use CM7s built in Apps2SD?
I've read here about "S2E" - is this a good solution to work with an ext partition?
Any suggestions/hints/experiences?
Phone: HTC Wildfire S-Off By AlphaRevX
Android: 2.3.7
OverClocked: 264MHz-710MHz SmartAssV2
VM Heap Size: 32m
ROM: CM7 Nightly (7.2.0-RC0-buzz-KANG)
Radio: 13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10
Recovery: ClockworkMod 5.0.2.0
Kernel: 2.6.35.14-nFinity [email protected] #1
Internal Memory: 320Mb Custom MTD Partition
-=V6 SuperCharger=-

Well to me it seems you already have your answer.
I personally use custom mtd settings of 145 10 and use absolutely no sd partition or a2sd what so ever. I've got quite a few apps but my internal memory has well over 200mb remaining.
In my opinion partitioning or moving apps etc just makes your system work a little harder but when using just the internal memory even with custom sizes seems to work best for me.
"sent from me2u"

I perosnaly am just using DarkTremor A2SD and I have about 100MB of free space with over 150 apps installed (140 in the app drawer, as the attachment shows, 4x5 and 7 dots up top)

slymobi said:
Well to me it seems you already have your answer.
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In my opinion partitioning or moving apps etc just makes your system work a little harder
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As you might have guessed that's not the answer I wanted to hear lol (but why I'm not surprised...?)
Well, in more detail I have quite a few apps I don't use very often - but I want to have on my phone for some reason. At the moment my free space is around 40-60 MB and I have the feeling that performance slightly went down a bit over the past weeks... (might be subjective though)
But anyway: that kind of honest opinion is exactly what I'm after, so thnx for your answer
[OT: regarding the nightly thread I'm not yet allowed to post in: yes, those 2 latest versions have scrolling cache disabled and I've had the feeling that it's a good thing...]
Swyped via XDA app from my HTC wildfire (buzz)

eventcom said:
As you might have guessed that's not the answer I wanted to hear lol (but why I'm not surprised...?)
Well, in more detail I have quite a few apps I don't use very often - but I want to have on my phone for some reason. At the moment my free space is around 40-60 MB and I have the feeling that performance slightly went down a bit over the past weeks... (might be subjective though)
But anyway: that kind of honest opinion is exactly what I'm after, so thnx for your answer
[OT: regarding the nightly thread I'm not yet allowed to post in: yes, those 2 latest versions have scrolling cache disabled and I've had the feeling that it's a good thing...]
Swyped via XDA app from my HTC wildfire (buzz)
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Hi,you can use any of the methods you've stated in conjunction with the mtd ,the reason I don't use any apps to SD mods is due to 2 things.1.I have enough space left internally so not needed. 2.although it's very slim the chance of something corrupting in sdcard would simply cause errors for the apps moved to SD so my paranoia strays me from using any a2sd mods etc.I did in the past used dt app2sd and it worked fine.obviously if you are getting so low on memory even after the mtd then you might be best moving some of the lesser used apps to SD. In this case I personally would try the cm7 built in method . Others may differ but this is my opinion.
Ot. The scrolling cache removal in erwinp and cobje latest builds does not play nice on my phone but others are reporting scrolling improvement so I think it may be hit and miss for the benefits.
Anyways hope you find the method which works best for you.
Regards Slymobi.
"sent from me2u"

I was using mtd partition and dta2sd while on cm7, they work fine together. Just make sure if you use them both to do the mtd partition before installing dta2sd.
The amount of internal storage you have (or don't have) is probably not the cause of your system being sluggish, its most likely what is running in the background, yes the built in taskkiller does a good job but the more apps you have the more it has to do to keep things smooth
I recommend an app I use called autostarts, its better than a taskkiller as it'll stop all the apps that you don't want running in the background constantly starting then being killed then starting again.........
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

Well, I thought I should complete the thread with my (ongoing) experiences:
Due to the fact that I've been really short on internal storage lately I've decided to give an ext partition on SD a try.
After stumbling over the really sweet & simple sounding "S2E" app I've been a bit shy to give it a go because the last (& rare) posts here @XDA dev about user experience with the app are not very fresh. But after having some issues like another member described here my latest tweaks & changes were lost anyway so I've decided to give it a try while doing everything from scratch anyway.
I'm happy with it so far - all apps on sd-ext now, I'll probably try out (with doing two nandroid backups before...) to move the dalvic cache also but I'm uncertain with that at the moment LOL
Scratch0805 said:
I recommend an app I use called autostarts
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very nice - that's what I've been looking for: preventing all those apps from constantly starting up without need - thx

Next step done: moved the Dalvic cache over.
I'm pretty much satisfied so far. Everything runs smooth, stable and fast.
In numbers: Around 120 apps (100Mb) and dalvic cache (90Mb) on sd-ext, app data left on internal memory. Around 190Mb internal memory free (of 300). More than 100Mb of free RAM @ 15-20 processes running.
So far - so good. I'll watch this a while (and guess what?: I got married to a second wife, her name's "nandroid"...)
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

What's your configuration ?
eventcom said:
Next step done: moved the Dalvic cache over.
I'm pretty much satisfied so far. Everything runs smooth, stable and fast.
In numbers: Around 120 apps (100Mb) and dalvic cache (90Mb) on sd-ext, app data left on internal memory. Around 190Mb internal memory free (of 300). More than 100Mb of free RAM @ 15-20 processes running.
So far - so good. I'll watch this a while (and guess what?: I got married to a second wife, her name's "nandroid"...)
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Hey,What is storage space of your SD Card ?
What's the Ext size and Swap size allocated ?
I have got 2 GB SD Card and I am doing the fresh install.
Should I configure the memory following this :
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/
i.e Ext size (1024M) and Swap size(32M) ?????
Thanks

Hi, unfortunately I've been too busy for a few more things to post here...
optimusodd said:
Hey,What is storage space of your SD Card ?
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Mine is 8GB - when I started with ext partition it has been a class 4 and worked pretty well - now I have a class 10 - which seems to be a bit faster and a bit more stable but not 6 times more (and I haven't done any testing as it runs stable all the time now)
What's the Ext size and Swap size allocated ?
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AFAIR I've allocated 1024MB - FreeSpace (app by the s2e dev) says I'm having 960MB
I have got 2 GB SD Card and I am doing the fresh install.
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have you already done the custom mtd stuff? (just because that's what really helped me most to get the performance back...)
Should I configure the memory following this :
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/
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I have done it with CWM recovery like suggested in the thread
i.e Ext size (1024M) and Swap size(32M) ?????
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For the EXT size yes, for the swap size I'm not sure if I configured an ext swap partition at all (I'm not sure if this is necessary with s2e - thought it just needs the partition and does the rest itself...)
Also make sure that you read the warning about moving app DATA to ext, too. I even didn't try to do so...
What I've also done is setting the SD card cache to 2048KB - you can do a speed test with SD tools and set the optimal cache with SD booster.
HTH

eventcom said:
Mine is 8GB - when I started with ext partition it has been a class 4 and worked pretty well - now I have a class 10 - which seems to be a bit faster and a bit more stable but not 6 times more (and I haven't done any testing as it runs stable all the time now)
AFAIR I've allocated 1024MB - FreeSpace (app by the s2e dev) says I'm having 960MB
have you already done the custom mtd stuff? (just because that's what really helped me most to get the performance back...)
I have done it with CWM recovery like suggested in the thread
For the EXT size yes, for the swap size I'm not sure if I configured an ext swap partition at all (I'm not sure if this is necessary with s2e - thought it just needs the partition and does the rest itself...)
Also make sure that you read the warning about moving app DATA to ext, too. I even didn't try to do so...
What I've also done is setting the SD card cache to 2048KB - you can do a speed test with SD tools and set the optimal cache with SD booster.
HTH
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You allocated 1024MB for Ext coz you have got 8GB Card.
Mine is 2GB so what should be the Ext size for it ?( 256MB or 512 MB would not be enough ?)
What should it be ? Ext2 or Ext4 ?
According to this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459
“Choose Ext2, Ext3 or Ext4 for partition type based on whether your kernel supports Ext4. If it does choose it! If you don't know choose Ext2 to be safe.”
Yes I am done with Custom MTD Partitions.
You didn't try to do "what" ?
What’s up with this “swap” partition ?
It’s so confusing.Some people claim that “swap” is like virtual RAM and more RAM means a more efficient (and faster) device.
Here are the posts supporting “swap” :
http://www.mod2xtreme.com/showthrea...crease-RAM-using-Swap-File-and-Swap-Partition
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...-the-wildfire/page__gopid__330791#entry330791
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/44675-how-to-configure-a-sd-ext-on-htc-buzz-wildfire/
While according to “Cyanogenmod” (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Swap_and_Compcache ) and some member swap doesn’t make any diff .on android devices.
If that’s true and swape is useless then why so many forums going gaga over it on XDA at the first place ???It makes no sense. So bewildering.
Please go through my query :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738336

optimusodd said:
You allocated 1024MB for Ext coz you have got 8GB Card.
Mine is 2GB so what should be the Ext size for it ?( 256MB or 512 MB would not be enough ?)
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Hmm, let me think about it... When I saw your question the first time I thought that I would find it hard to go with a 2GB card. Here's why: I'm really not a music or video fanatic but 2GB are nothing if you have just a few mp3's or videos on your card (specifically your camera pics and videos for example...).
So if you say you don't need that - it should be ok.
For the size you need I could only tell from my personal experience, too:
I don't have much discipline with deleting or transferring unused stuff or garbage from my phone - so I might have a few apps installed I rarely or never use (anymore). But I don't collect apps just for fun also - so I'd say I've installed an average number of apps. 120 to be more specific. That makes 474MB used for the ext partition including installed & system apps and Dalvik cache (128MB).
So if you don't plan to install more than 120 apps, 512MB might work for you - I'd probably stuck with 1024 - even with a 2GB card - to prevent running out of space (what happens exactly when you just don't need it )
What should it be ? Ext2 or Ext4 ?
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To be honest: I can't remember exactly but I've read something about possible problems and incompatibilities with ext4. But I'm not sure if I faced that question at all when I partitioned my card with CWM... if so I'm pretty sure that I've chosen ext3 (just in case I'd like to install a different kernel some time in the future)
Following Oleg Krikun it should be ext3 or ext4 for S2E...
You didn't try to do "what" ?
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to move the app data to ext also
What’s up with this “swap” partition ?
It’s so confusing.Some people claim that “swap” is like virtual RAM and more RAM means a more efficient (and faster) device.
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Yes it might sound confusing - but there are a few things to consider also besides a simple "do it" or "leave it": More RAM is an advantage if it's true original system RAM which can be accessed fast and handled properly and stable. If you already have a fast processor and much system RAM you might also experience some improvement by using an additional swap partition.
For CM7 - especially on the Wildfire - I pretty much agree with that:
In some applications, this makes it seem as if the application never closed at all. This is not much different from traditional swap, except that Android apps are specially programed to write out very specific information, making Android's Memory Manager more efficient that swap.
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But your mileage may vary.
From my experience it's a bit trial and error to find the best setup and config for your phone - you should also know that there are differences between identical devices sometimes.
HTH
BTW: that's a funny post of user "Arfer":
Here are the posts supporting “swap” : (...)
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...-the-wildfire/page__gopid__330791#entry330791
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he cheers about 126MB free memory but has left over 125MB wasted memory in his system partition. (In other words: using custom MTD partitions he would get at least 100MB more if using a CM7 ROM)
Much different from my specs LOL:
Code:
Name: Cache
Path: /cache
SIZE: 15MB
USED: 1MB
FREE: 13MB
Name: Data
Path: /data
SIZE: 300MB
USED: 229MB
FREE: 70MB
Name: Ext
Path: /sd-ext
SIZE: 960MB
USED: 474MB
FREE: 485MB
Name: SD-card
Path: /sdcard
SIZE: 6670MB
USED: 4509MB
FREE: 2160MB
Name: System
Path: /system
SIZE: 150MB
USED: 123MB
FREE: 26MB

Okay,thanks buddy ,I'm gonna give it a try.
Thanks for your helpful, constructive insight.I really appreciate that.
You rock!!:good:
eventcom said:
BTW: that's a funny post of user "Arfer":
he cheers about 126MB free memory but has left over 125MB wasted memory in his system partition. (In other words: using custom MTD partitions he would get at least 100MB more if using a CM7 ROM)
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LOL,I wonder if he is aware of MTD partition.
Okay,off to "Experimenter mode":fingers-crossed:

SD Card alignment
Hey,what's your take on "SD Card alignment "?
Anybody tried that ?
Here :
http://www.hjreggel.net/cardspeed/cs_calign.html
http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?3696-HOWTO-Increase-write-speed-by-aligning-FAT32

Hmm, if I'm not totally wrong this has only to do with writing speed issues when you use the regular FAT32 partition of your card on your PC while the EXT partition is NOT FAT32 of course (but a system drive of the Android system) ;-)
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)

[Q] Need help getting INT2EXT4+ working on my phone

I'm using the CyanogenMod 10 with CM10.1 features for the Wildfire S ROM. ROM boots fine on its own, but when I flash the Cronmod INT2EXT4+ zip, the phone gets stuck on the electron beam bootanimation. I haven't seen anyone else having this problem, could someone please help me?
My SD card is class 4 32GB. My ext4 partition is 1024GB.
Would really appreciate the help, thank in advance!

Hi,
I had this issue with CM9, solved formatting sd-ext partition from CWM recovery after flashing INT2EXT2+, hope it also works with INT2EXT4+

He is right,you need format sd/ext from recovery after you have flashed int2ext.

Also this could be an issue since we only have 150mb internal memory
-100mb internal is needed for every 500mb sd-ext (INT2EXT+/INT2EXT4+)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
I set mine to 512mb (ext3 i think, not sure though lol) and have had no issues with INT2EXT+.

If you are using cm10 use S2E from the Play Store it has less bugs and works fine
But you can also try other init.d scripts, as there are plenty of them in these forums
Envoyé depuis mon Wildfire S A510e

Odp: [Q] Need help getting INT2EXT4+ working on my phone
bobdarkside said:
Also this could be an issue since we only have 150mb internal memory
-100mb internal is needed for every 500mb sd-ext (INT2EXT+/INT2EXT4+)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
I set mine to 512mb (ext3 i think, not sure though lol) and have had no issues with INT2EXT+.
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You need 100 per 500 MB USED, as + version leaves Dalvik files on internal to increase performance and speed of phone, please next time read carefully before you start confusing people.

Yasounet said:
You need 100 per 500 MB USED, as + version leaves Dalvik files on internal to increase performance and speed of phone, please next time read carefully before you start confusing people.
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Read the original post there is no mention of the word USED, it is as I stated 100mb internal for 500 mb of sd-ext which i copied verbatim. Since we have a 150 mb internal one could perceive that the biggest sd-ext that could work with would be 750mb. Now if other people have gotten this to work with bigger sd-ext's power to them, since I haven't tried. If I am wrong I am sorry but I just did what the developer suggested.
Prerequisites:
-Rooted Rom with init.d support
-SD-EXT partition
-100mb internal is needed for every 500mb sd-ext (INT2EXT+/INT2EXT4+)

[Q] Questions about the script int2ext

I use the PA 6.0 rom.And it only has less than 100mb internal.I study the thread of int2ext.It said that 100mb internal is needed for every 500mb sd-ext.Does it mean i can only use less than 500mb ext until my internal memory is full? So why? Is it because the script only mount some data to ext? I would like to have lots of apps.I have 1.5G ext and my tf is class 6.So which scipt should i use?

fzy139 said:
I use the PA 6.0 rom.And it only has less than 100mb internal.I study the thread of int2ext.It said that 100mb internal is needed for every 500mb sd-ext.Does it mean i can only use less than 500mb ext until my internal memory is full? So why? Is it because the script only mount some data to ext? I would like to have lots of apps.I have 1.5G ext and my tf is class 6.So which scipt should i use?
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"100MB is needed for every 500MB sd-ext" is just a rough ratio to give you an estimate of how big to make your sd-ext. How everything fills up is all dependent on how many apps you install.
1.5GB sd-ext should be plenty. As long as it is created properly in gparted or 4EXT recovery will work fine, keep it.
Search the rom thread to see other users' experience of int2ext, should work. You should start fresh to get best results.
- titanium backup user apps and nandroid backup
- full wipe
- reflash rom, reboot
- reboot to recovery, flash int2ext script
- reboot and restore apps again
- use an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions, see how they're filling up.

easy step by step for clearing phone memory

I've read on here that people are able to install lots of apps without clogging their memory on their phone, placing all their info on their sd cards. can someone help me do that? I've already have app2card and other apps to clear up memory but things still start to take up the phone memory.
I've done the search and can't figure this one out. i'm using the atomic rom and I believe my phone is rooted. thank you.

legacygt777 said:
I've read on here that people are able to install lots of apps without clogging their memory on their phone, placing all their info on their sd cards. can someone help me do that? I've already have app2card and other apps to clear up memory but things still start to take up the phone memory.
I've done the search and can't figure this one out. i'm using the atomic rom and I believe my phone is rooted. thank you.
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Well, even if apps is moved to sd, their odex files will still occupy space in dalvik-cache. If you have many apps, internal space will surely be low.
I'm using DiskUsage app to see what is taking space in internal memory.
Here is some hints from me that can help you with internal memory problems:
-clear your apps cashe and data from time to time (obviously, you can do that for not so important apps, but not for games, because you will loose your progress)
-Most GB roms are not big in term of size, so there are lot of space left in /system (sometimes even more then 100MB). You can install some of your apps to system (move them from /data/app to /system/app).
-Reodex your rom. You'll get 30MB+ if you reodex just framework folder, even more if you reodex all system apps. (so all odex files will be in system partition, not in dalvik-cache (data partition)
-Finaly, you can unlock your bootloader and flash custom kernels (lupus or turbo kernel) that can increase you data partition to 610MB

Bakisha said:
Well, even if apps is moved to sd, their odex files will still occupy space in dalvik-cache. If you have many apps, internal space will surely be low.
I'm using DiskUsage app to see what is taking space in internal memory.
Here is some hints from me that can help you with internal memory problems:
-clear your apps cashe and data from time to time (obviously, you can do that for not so important apps, but not for games, because you will loose your progress)
-Most GB roms are not big in term of size, so there are lot of space left in /system (sometimes even more then 100MB). You can install some of your apps to system (move them from /data/app to /system/app).
-Reodex your rom. You'll get 30MB+ if you reodex just framework folder, even more if you reodex all system apps. (so all odex files will be in system partition, not in dalvik-cache (data partition)
-Finaly, you can unlock your bootloader and flash custom kernels (lupus or turbo kernel) that can increase you data partition to 610MB
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thanks! i'm really happy with my atomic 7 gb rom so I don't think I will flash a new one (at the moment). I have abou 120mb left in my internal memory....is that pretty good? will reodexing your rom slow down the system?
appreciate the feedback.

legacygt777 said:
thanks! i'm really happy with my atomic 7 gb rom so I don't think I will flash a new one (at the moment). I have abou 120mb left in my internal memory....is that pretty good? will reodexing your rom slow down the system?
appreciate the feedback.
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120MB is OK. Actually, it's all ok untill first thing you want to install fail due low space. Then you can think of things posted above.
No, reodexing rom won't slow your phone.

I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
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ozzmanj1 said:
I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
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1)just downloaded link2 sd
2)ok baby steps here....how do I format card?
3)"use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4" - how do I do this? is that an app?
thanks man....much appreciated.

legacygt777 said:
1)just downloaded link2 sd
2)ok baby steps here....how do I format card?
3)"use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4" - how do I do this? is that an app?
thanks man....much appreciated.
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First, make a backup of your sd card to PC.
Minitool is program for PC. Tutorial how to use it (with download links) is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning

ozzmanj1 said:
I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
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so do I partition (say ext2) first? and make it 3g. then I format the rest of the space fat32?
sorry if this is so basic.

legacygt777 said:
so do I partition (say ext2) first? and make it 3g. then I format the rest of the space fat32?
sorry if this is so basic.
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also is the ext2 my primary?
the rest of it "logical"?

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[Q] plants vs zombies2 install problem

I wanted to install p. vs z 2 but it has 168 MB. And our Desire 151MB system partitionn :crying:
Of cause i have an ext partition. There are 754 free Mb of 1,41 GB. (quick system info)
But my intern memory just have 33,44MB of 151 free.
So on the ext i could install it 4 times but the store first download to intern. Is there a way to install? Maybe if someone uploads the apk and i flash it in the recovery directly to ext4?
An other question. When i startet my phone there where just 5,6MB free. When moves the a2sd script things to the partition and when moves it it back?

HandyBesitzer said:
I wanted to install p. vs z 2 but it has 168 MB. And our Desire 151MB system partitionn :crying:
Of cause i have an ext partition. There are 754 free Mb of 1,41 GB. (quick system info)
But my intern memory just have 33,44MB of 151 free.
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Your /data partition is 151MB, not your /system partition. Your /system partition is 250MB as you are on stock hboot.
So on the ext i could install it 4 times but the store first download to intern. Is there a way to install? Maybe if someone uploads the apk and i flash it in the recovery directly to ext4?
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When installing apps, as far as I know it doesn't actually install it to internal (/data), and then move it to ext4. It should install it directly to ext4.
However, depending on the ROM, it needs to see the available space on the internal. The apk is then tricked to your ext4 partition.
One way to install it which might work (not tried it)
- Find and download the apk
- Copy and paste it to your /sd-ext partition using a file browser
- Change file permissions to match your other apps
- Reboot
An other question. When i startet my phone there where just 5,6MB free. When moves the a2sd script things to the partition and when moves it it back?
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What ROM are you using, and are you using the built in A2SD script or something else? Any A2SD script should move apps (and maybe dalvik cache) automatically to your ext4 partition. I does not move it to internal and back to ext4.
It looks like your memory usage is not very efficient. You may benefit from changing hboot if your ROM /system size is a lot smaller than 250MB. Your dalvik cache might also be on internal, when you could move it to sd-ext where there is plenty of free space.

eddiehk6 said:
Your /data partition is 151MB, not your /system partition. Your /system partition is 250MB as you are on stock hboot.
When installing apps, as far as I know it doesn't actually install it to internal (/data), and then move it to ext4. It should install it directly to ext4.
However, depending on the ROM, it needs to see the available space on the internal. The apk is then tricked to your ext4 partition.
One way to install it which might work (not tried it)
- Find and download the apk
- Copy and paste it to your /sd-ext partition using a file browser
- Change file permissions to match your other apps
- Reboot
What ROM are you using, and are you using the built in A2SD script or something else? Any A2SD script should move apps (and maybe dalvik cache) automatically to your ext4 partition. I does not move it to internal and back to ext4.
It looks like your memory usage is not very efficient. You may benefit from changing hboot if your ROM /system size is a lot smaller than 250MB. Your dalvik cache might also be on internal, when you could move it to sd-ext where there is plenty of free space.
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i'm using RSK Sattelite ROM.
but if the apps are installed to ext how comes that the data sometimes has about 10MB free and after i installed an update there are 15MB free??

HandyBesitzer said:
i'm using RSK Sattelite ROM.
but if the apps are installed to ext how comes that the data sometimes has about 10MB free and after i installed an update there are 15MB free??
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It depends a bit on how your script works. Reading the ROM OP it has some sort of "a2sdx" built it, I'm not familiar with exactly how it works. You need to understand this script first before wondering about anything internal memory related.
Think about it logically though...the script is meant to move things to the ext. That's its purpose. Generally they move at least the whole app apk to ext.
So
- If you have an app installed, it should already be on the ext.
- When you update the app, it will overwrite the existing apk on ext.
- There are other things along with an app such as app libs, app data and dalvik cache, which may be on internal or ext depending on the script. These can change on app updates as well.
Have a look at an app like 'DiskUsage', use it to browse your /data partition. See what's using the space. Often you may have some stray /system apps on /data, and you need to move them back to /system.