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Hi, I have a few questions I hope you can help me with?
My wife has a galaxy nexus, stock and unrooted. It is only around 6 weeks old and last week it started crashing, turning off then getting stuck in a boot loop just displaying the starting colours. I understand this is a known problem, she has software version 4.0.2 and it says her phone is up to date.
I "fixed" her phone once with a factory reset however this time she is away with work till Friday and now has no use of her phone or contractual minuets or data ect.
To make things worst she was planning on using the sat nav and wireless tethering to her laptop. It is the second time this has happened and she has lost all faith in her phone. She can maybe upgrade the software by downloading the 4.0.4 software but she/I don't see why she should have too. She just wants a phones that does what it says on the tin without needing to mod or mess around with it.
My questions are...
Is this problem enough for her to exchange the phone for another phone all together, she fancies a One X. Has anyone here managed to exchange the phone for this reason?
If not will updating the software to 4.0.4 fix the issue for sure? She really needs a reliable phone. Maybe it will be best to send it back under the warranty but we are afraid she will get another GNex with the same issue.
Any advice will be much appreciated
Sorry for the long post and thanks for reading,
Oliver
I would just try updating it and then wipe it. If that doesn't fix the issue it's most likely a hardware issue and I would warranty the phone.
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Hey there,
Well first I would suggest calming down and not reverting to hardware issues just yet, Bootloops are pretty common, especially when using phones which were meant for the (a bit) more advanced user, it's advantage is also it's flaw, being a modding monster that it is..
And this is by no means a flame - but I wouldn't want my wife to have a GN for that exact same reason, yes - she knows about flashing roms and stuff, but she needs a reliable phone, that will work and do what she needs it to do and nothing more, as opposed to me, I like to mess around a bit with my phones (also not that much, I plan to stay stock with my GN).
To your question, I don't have any experience with RMA's but it maybe worth a try.
You also mentioned she fancies the one-x.. that means she wasn't really keen on buying the GN in the first place (I believe).. and also - and don't take this the wrong way - I think she\you don't really know what the GN is all about, this isn't a phone for everybody, I mean - it is, but it's a shame to see it fall into hands that do not appreciate it for what it is, think of it as a nice new Ferrari, sure - it'll get your wife to work But she is not going to the Nurborgring to time her laps with it.. she'll complain that once in a while the clutch is too sensitive and that she cannot count on the car to take her to work every day, and that she really fancies the new Volkswagen beetle... you get my drift
Also - I believe that flashing to the 4.0.4 will sort the bootloops, which usually has everything to do with the kenrel.
Best of luck!
p.s. All of the above is said in a humoristic way!
omricn said:
Hey there,
Well first I would suggest calming down and not reverting to hardware issues just yet, Bootloops are pretty common, especially when using phones which were meant for the (a bit) more advanced user, it's advantage is also it's flaw, being a modding monster that it is..
And this is by no means a flame - but I wouldn't want my wife to have a GN for that exact same reason, yes - she knows about flashing roms and stuff, but she needs a reliable phone, that will work and do what she needs it to do and nothing more, as opposed to me, I like to mess around a bit with my phones (also not that much, I plan to stay stock with my GN).
To your question, I don't have any experience with RMA's but it maybe worth a try.
You also mentioned she fancies the one-x.. that means she wasn't really keen on buying the GN in the first place (I believe).. and also - and don't take this the wrong way - I think she\you don't really know what the GN is all about, this isn't a phone for everybody, I mean - it is, but it's a shame to see it fall into hands that do not appreciate it for what it is, think of it as a nice new Ferrari, sure - it'll get your wife to work But she is not going to the Nurborgring to time her laps with it.. she'll complain that once in a while the clutch is too sensitive and that she cannot count on the car to take her to work every day, and that she really fancies the new Volkswagen beetle... you get my drift
Also - I believe that flashing to the 4.0.4 will sort the bootloops, which usually has everything to do with the kenrel.
Best of luck!
p.s. All of the above is said in a humoristic way!
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Thanks for your post.
My wife wanted to upgrade her htc desire to a faster phone with bigger screen, she loves android and Google products and the Google nexus seemed like the best choice at the time (b4 the one X was released) she loved the phone till now.
The phone has twice randomly gone into a boot loop and twice we managed to get it working again both times within the week. This has caused her to lose faith in the phone. I guess the update should fix the issue but it doesn't seem to be available on her phone just yet.
A basic phone would not be enough 4 my wife, as I said in my first post she uses it to connect her laptop to the Internet and as a satnav. Also she watches youtube videos (720p screen is handy here) and for facebook.
We never had any such issues with our desires. When my wife returns home we will update her phone via pc if it doesn't void warranty (I'm sure it won't ) and hopefully the issue will be fixed for good.
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Sounds like our wives can get along my wify loves her htc desire hd! and to be honest, in my opinion in many ways it's much better than the sensation I had (stock).
And by what you described, if I was your wife (lol ) I'd also go for the GN.. I trust you know how to upgrade to 4.0.4, if you need any help just say so and I'll be more than happy to help
Also - from what I know upgrading will not void you warranty, you can simply lock the bootloader once you're done upgrading if you wish.
I really wish the bootloops will stop and that you wife will continue to enjoy her GN!
Hi again
I unlocked, rooted and installed Android Revelution HD 3.0.0 (based on 4.0.4) by mike1986 on her phone.
She is happy with her phone again.
Now it's rooted she likes the extra apps she can now install like AdFree.
I have a quick noob question though..
After installing the new rom her phone it said their is an update available. I understand that she should NOT accept over the air updates now she has a custom rom, and is that right?
Cheers, Oliver
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Hey Oliver, sorry.. seems I didn't get subscription notifications on your reply...
anyway, she "can" download the update, but it will not install, it will simply give an error upon installation, the reason is the original files that the update needs to update are not there anymore, or they are but have changed, so it will just give an installation error.. that's the only downside to having a custom rom. me personally - I like mine stock at the moment
Just a quick update, I rooted, s- offed and install Arhd rom on my wife's gnex.
She says her phone is running faster/smoother than ever and has not restarted since. It's running great and she is happy again
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So today I bought a new Note 2 (SGH-i317M) on Bell Mobility Canada, as I was having issues with my first one. The first one had been rooted, and had a couple different roms on it. The last week or so my reception has been atrocious and constantly in "emergency calls only" mode, so I said "forget it" get a new one, send in the old one and sell it to my buddy when it gets back.
I managed to get a stock recovery and a stock rom on the old Note 2 using Samsung Galaxy Note2 Toolkit. Now, this is where it goes wonky and not sure what happened.
Upon initially getting the stock rom (4.1.1) on it, I noticed another update in the notification tray. At this point my SIM card has been pulled and I am using only wifi on it. I jumped on the update thinking cool my device isn't "modified" anymore, so I will take this update ( to 4.1.2)
After doing that update, I looked in my app drawer and it has 6 or 7 Roger's bloat apps in it, and the kernel version was different. Otherwise baseband, build and Android version are the same Not sure if it happened when I installed the stock rom from the Toolkit process or if the Roger's apps came with the OTA update to 4.1.2.
The problem is, this makes it hard to take a phone back to Bell for repairs with Roger's system apps in it. I've tried flashing the stock rom from the Toolkit via Odin again but there is still Roger's bloat there.
I have no idea what to do now. I pretty much used up all my brain power today getting this far. Could someone point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it greatly.
Thanks ahead of time for any responses, I've been at this most of the day now and I am just out of ideas now. :silly:
If you are getting rogers apps in a fresh flash via Odin...then you likely have the wrong rom being flashed....(it happens)
Look in the "Everything thread" in the development section for the stock bell firmware. this is the bell stock firmware from the thread...I pulled it for you...http://www.hotfile.com/dl/180165074/47da708/I317MVLALJ2_I317MOYAALJ2_RWC.zip.html
That rom is the link from the everything thread...
You are the second user this week that has flashed a mis-labeled rom from the kit...
Once bell is flashed, your rogers apps will go away...
Remember to wipe all data and caches in the stock recovery before booting the new rom....g
U need to change ur csc, all stock Canadian fw is the same... it will show bell bloat till u enter the proper csc.
Hopfully this helps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988202
And this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004029
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U need to change ur csc, all stock Canadian fw is the same... it will show bell bloat till u enter the proper csc.
Hopfully this helps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988202
And this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004029
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+1 csc will give you right firmware i always use Samsung Galaxy S csc from pstore. Just choose your carrier and no need to flash firmware again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manniakk.cscselector
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gregsarg said:
If you are getting rogers apps in a fresh flash via Odin...then you likely have the wrong rom being flashed....(it happens)
Look in the "Everything thread" in the development section for the stock bell firmware. this is the bell stock firmware from the thread...I pulled it for you...http://www.hotfile.com/dl/180165074/47da708/I317MVLALJ2_I317MOYAALJ2_RWC.zip.html
That rom is the link from the everything thread...
You are the second user this week that has flashed a mis-labeled rom from the kit...
Once bell is flashed, your rogers apps will go away...
Remember to wipe all data and caches in the stock recovery before booting the new rom....g
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Thanks so much. I wish found that earlier.
As well as this.........
twanskys204 said:
U need to change ur csc, all stock Canadian fw is the same... it will show bell bloat till u enter the proper csc.
Hopfully this helps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988202
And this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004029
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Which may have lead to this......
jon3sh said:
+1 csc will give you right firmware i always use Samsung Galaxy S csc from pstore. Just choose your carrier and no need to flash firmware again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manniakk.cscselector
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Thanks so much guys. This experience has really stumped me.
I did however manage to get this sorted in the mean time. I installed a custom recovery back in, did a full system wipe the put in a rom that supports Canadian variants (tell ya the truth can't even remember it's name) and in that install process it had an aroma installer. One of the options was to adjust CSC for your desired carrier. After I set it up, I started the intitial process of wiping, and flashing and such over and voila I had all Bell apps and no Rogers apps.
But, in the meantime, the wifi decided to do its hanging thing again and for the last 3 hours or so I have been trying to get Triangle Away running on it. The app requires more data to work with my phone, but as this phone doesn't have a registered SIM and the wifi wont start now I have to manage a way to get it working, reset my binary count, unroot and verify and be done with it.
I greatly appreciate your guys input and will be reading as much as possible. Generally I can go flash crazy with custom roms but Odin messes me up.
I hope others see this thread and don't do what I did, and learn about CSC before they get hung up. Thanks again guys.
p.s. my brain hurts
OK. I officially give up. This 5 month old phone is going in the garbage. If it isn't one thing, it's another. Managed to get the wifi (and BT which I didn't know at first wasnt working) by inserting my new phones SIM. Blam, both worked. Great, now I can install Triangle Away, do my thing, reflash the stock firmware and I'm good.
And now.............the Toolkit won't recognize ADB enabled. I have been at this for over 24 hours now and it's been one roadblock after another.
I am officially McGyver'ed out :crying:
Idk what ur doing wrong but, doing a freash install should fix ur issues..
twanskys204 said:
Idk what ur doing wrong but, doing a freash install should fix ur issues..
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Right on. Ya I kinda gathered my thoughts and buckled down and started over. So, now I have what appears be the proper firmware on my older Note 2.
Version: 4.1.1
baseband: i317MVLAJ2
kernel: 3.0.31-262790 / [email protected] #1 / SMP PREEMPT wed Oct 3 ........2012
build: JRO03C.I317MVLAJ2
Device Status: Normal
It seems like the exact same software as when I first cracked my new one out the box. After I updated it, the newer one now has:
Version: 4.1.2
baseband: I317MVLBMA3
kernel: 3.0.31-262790 / [email protected] #1 / SMP PREEMPT wed Oct 3..........2012
build: JZ054K.I317MVLBMA3
Pretty sure I got all the numbers right lol.
Still trying to figure out what to do now for Triangle Away, and making this phone seem like it's never been touched. Thanks for your help so far.
Root with cf root ,,run triangle away then do what u just did
twanskys204 said:
Root with cf root ,,run triangle away then do what u just did
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CF Root. OK I will check it out. Thank you ! I will let ya know how it goes. I appreciate this as it just seems like there is just way too much Note 2 info out there. Thanks for the filter lol !
Update. Well that did it. In the "Download" screen it is saying;
-Custom binary download: No
-Current Binary: Samsung Official
-System Status: Official
In Settings, the device status is Normal
As far as my research has gotten me, my understanding is that I should now be able to send it in with out any warranty issues. My wifi and BT are acting hinky again but I may try my SIM swap again and see if that helps, before I send it away.
Thank you so much for your help. That suggestion of CF Auto-Root helped big time!!!!!
No problem. . Get some rest and hit it up in the morning. .
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Update. Well that did it. In the "Download" screen it is saying;
-Custom binary download: No
-Current Binary: Samsung Official
-System Status: Official
In Settings, the device status is Normal
As far as my research has gotten me, my understanding is that I should now be able to send it in with out any warranty issues. My wifi and BT are acting hinky again but I may try my SIM swap again and see if that helps, before I send it away.
Thank you so much for your help. That suggestion of CF Auto-Root helped big time!!!!!
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Next time you are flashing stock rom for your phone just use rom from link below so you dont need to worry about rooting after. Roms are root injected already and good to go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004650
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jon3sh said:
Next time you are flashing stock rom for your phone just use rom from link below so you dont need to worry about rooting after. Roms are root injected already and good to go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004650
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Nice ! Ya I found the same root injected bell rom but unfortunately it was after I wanted to uninstall and unroot. I will be taking this approach from now on. Thank you good sir!!
I appreciate everyone's patience because I was certainly runnIngl out of it . Going to get the old Note 2 packed up and shipped off sometime today. Again all help greatly appreciated guys .
To add to my ordeal going on now, I did notice that my first Note 2 was made in China, and feels sloppy. Like the battery is slightly loose, and like the assembly just doesn't feel tight. I had to slip a piece of folded paper in behind the battery as the phone always rebooted even just gently dropping it on the table.
My brand new Note 2 I noticed was made in Korea. The battery is seated much, much better, and the phone itself feels like it was put together in a factory, not a car garage.
I am wondering if this is what is going on, because today after messing with the old one (which is now OTA'd to 4.1.2 *thanks again guys!*), and having the same persistent wifi hanging issue (not turning on and not really turning off, just suspended) and BT not wanting to turn on, alongside its original problem of poor cell reception......I thought I wonder if something is just hinky/loose or whatever. So I picked the phone up, dropped it flat on its back (in a case lol) from about 8 inches in the air, onto my coffee table. Opened the notification tray, and tapped the wifi toggle and it instantly turn on, bright lime and I was able to see available networks. The BT turned on immediately after pressing it too. Can't speak on cell signal, and it may well just be coincidence, but after several wipe/flash processes and BT and wifi acting hinky across several factory resets etc, then immediately working after the drop.......strange indeed.
More convinced now than ever that I have had somewhat of a lemon the whole time as I have had weird issues with reception for a long time from in the house to out in the world. The phone has never been seriously dropped and anytime it did slip it was in an Urban Armor Gear case, screen is near mint (didnt have protector first week) , and should be absolutely zero water damage.
Valkillmore said:
To add to my ordeal going on now, I did notice that my first Note 2 was made in China, and feels sloppy. Like the battery is slightly loose, and like the assembly just doesn't feel tight. I had to slip a piece of folded paper in behind the battery as the phone always rebooted even just gently dropping it on the table.
My brand new Note 2 I noticed was made in Korea. The battery is seated much, much better, and the phone itself feels like it was put together in a factory, not a car garage.
I am wondering if this is what is going on, because today after messing with the old one (which is now OTA'd to 4.1.2 *thanks again guys!*), and having the same persistent wifi hanging issue (not turning on and not really turning off, just suspended) and BT not wanting to turn on, alongside its original problem of poor cell reception......I thought I wonder if something is just hinky/loose or whatever. So I picked the phone up, dropped it flat on its back (in a case lol) from about 8 inches in the air, onto my coffee table. Opened the notification tray, and tapped the wifi toggle and it instantly turn on, bright lime and I was able to see available networks. The BT turned on immediately after pressing it too. Can't speak on cell signal, and it may well just be coincidence, but after several wipe/flash processes and BT and wifi acting hinky across several factory resets etc, then immediately working after the drop.......strange indeed.
More convinced now than ever that I have had somewhat of a lemon the whole time as I have had weird issues with reception for a long time from in the house to out in the world. The phone has never been seriously dropped and anytime it did slip it was in an Urban Armor Gear case, screen is near mint (didnt have protector first week) , and should be absolutely zero water damage.
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Flash away now
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jon3sh said:
Flash away now
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Well, I was thinking that, but seeing it's under warranty, I am going to see what happens at Samsung. Hopefully they don't have some new way of seeing its been customed *face palm* lol and just replace it, even if its with a working factory rebuild or whatever. As I had to purchase both devices out right, and I live in Canada, I may be able to buy a car with the money.......holy crap its expensive up here.
Nearly $800 for each one. Ridiculous lol
EDIT: It would be a crappy car, but a car none the less
Ya , im up in canada also.. mine was 840 when it first came out. I payed it right out and unlocked it.
Mind u my build quality is excellent, maybe except for the sqeeky back.
But no problems none the less.:thumbup:
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twanskys204 said:
Ya , im up in canada also.. mine was 840 when it first came out. I payed it right out and unlocked it.
Mind u my build quality is excellent, maybe except for the sqeeky back.
But no problems none the less.:thumbup:
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Ya it is just ridiculous the costs up here, and I live up in northern BC so everything is just a little more than everywher else as expensive at it is already, UGH !
I wonder if there is a new batch shipped because like I said, the one I bought 5 months ago was made in China, and like you say "squeeky". Loose. And big difference in at least mobile data / cell radio performance between my two devices.
This new one made in Korea, even the older battery slides in nice and tight. No squeaky back. Just feels tighter, even the S-Pen. It was always kind of loose on the older Note and even tossing the phone onto the table sometimes dislodged it. Even my camera lense on my older one seemed like it was mounted weird. I'd prefer stuff domestic if possible but I sure notice a difference between the Korean manufactured and the Chinese manufactured.
But I have a feeling I may be sending it back right away if service is as useless as it is everywhere else nowadays. I noticed after getting home on the work order it says
Wifi not connecting
BT not connecting
etc
Well, it was not that BT or wifi wouldn't connect. They connect to my devces/network immediately, BUT if and only if they actually turn on. The toggle stays half lit, and the wifi would say "turning on" then simply shut off a minute later. And the BT just wouldn't turn on at all, UNTIL I "dropped fixed" them this morning.
She also forgot to add that the S-Pen is totally haywire. I think that may be simply a sensitivy calibration issue I could maybe fix myself from YouTube vids I've seen. Just never got to it with other issues. I just hope the tech that checks it isnt as useless as I am picturing them in my mind and they show initiative and actually check the whole phone. Dream on I'm thinking HA !
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Ya it is just ridiculous the costs up here, and I live up in northern BC so everything is just a little more than everywher else as expensive at it is already, UGH !!
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I have to agree Valkillmore, northern BC has horrible pricing. I have had mine since January on Telus and also had strange problems with the radios.
My wireless randomly drops my home wifi signal, regardless of which frequency it uses. This started just the other day and I actually hadn't done any flashing or updates in a few days. Seems strange that it would start now.
Guys, I was all set to get a new 32gb Nexus 7....the reviews are great, and then I start reading about the issues.
After a bit more reading, I'm left wondering if its such a good idea? I read that Google released an update, then I also read that it didn't always fix things for people?
So the questions I guess are, Do you own one? Have you had a problem? Is it now fixed by the update? Maybe you've never had any problems?
Would you recommend getting one? I don't wanna spend out on something that I'll regret.
Thanks guys.
I've had mine since the first weekend of availability and it's lived up to all my expectations and then some, you're just buying the usual support vocal minority, sume have legit issue, noisy are just being nitpicky
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Thanks, this is what I'm trying to determine...if its just a few people shouting loud, or a big issue affecting a lot.
Thanks for your reply.
Mine worked 100% out of the box, no light bleed, no multi-touch issues, no GPS issues. Updates have installed perfectly. I am running stock deodexed + root + TWRP + Elemental X 1.1 Kernel. Couldn't be happier with my purchase. :good:
I know a lot of people have reported the GPS issues and the touch issues, but I've never experienced them myself. I bought mine the day it was released, 32gb model.
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Thanks, this is what I'm trying to determine...if its just a few people shouting loud, or a big issue affecting a lot.
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My suggestion is you buy from a place with a reasonable return policy.
We have no idea whether this is a 1%, 5%, 10% or more problem. Even if it were a 20% problem you would still have a huge number of people without issues, but from a product standpoint it would be very bad.
In my personal experience GPS is completely fixed on multiple units with the JSS15Q firmware.
Multi-touch is hit or miss, many units either got multi-touch fixed or saw no improvement. Some saw things get worse. You can see from the changelog history of the touchscreen firmware that they have been making various changes to address the issues, so the issues are real and acknowledged in some part.
Changelog for touchscreen firmware is available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44954563#post44954563
As to the random reboots, IMO there are 2 issues, one is a hardware issue and the other is one or more software issues. The hardware issue is more rare, but if you have it, it will be difficult to avoid the reboots, unless Google/Asus can find a software workaround for the problem.
With respect to the software reboot issues, you can usually avoid them by avoiding a "trigger" app. Some folks usage just never triggers the problem. Some people trigger it when using chrome. For others it is some other app. Usually when you stop using the trigger app the software reboots go away.
You need to make the decision for yourself. There will be lots of people saying no problem and lots of people saying they got multiple units all with issues.
I bought the 32gb. Works flawlessly, I got it a week and half ago.
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GET ONE
I would say go for it, you are always going to have issues with most anything. Just buy from a retailer with a good return policy, I own the nexus 7 2012 and the nexus 7 2013 , no issues here, awesome devices.
Thanks guys. Sfhub, you make some good points....think I will buy from a large high street store, rather than online.
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sfhub said:
My suggestion is you buy from a place with a reasonable return policy.
We have no idea whether this is a 1%, 5%, 10% or more problem. Even if it were a 20% problem you would still have a huge number of people without issues, but from a product standpoint it would be very bad.
In my personal experience GPS is completely fixed on multiple units with the JSS15Q firmware.
Multi-touch is hit or miss, many units either got multi-touch fixed or saw no improvement. Some saw things get worse. You can see from the changelog history of the touchscreen firmware that they have been making various changes to address the issues, so the issues are real and acknowledged in some part.
Changelog for touchscreen firmware is available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44954563#post44954563
As to the random reboots, IMO there are 2 issues, one is a hardware issue and the other is one or more software issues. The hardware issue is more rare, but if you have it, it will be difficult to avoid the reboots, unless Google/Asus can find a software workaround for the problem.
With respect to the software reboot issues, you can usually avoid them by avoiding a "trigger" app. Some folks usage just never triggers the problem. Some people trigger it when using chrome. For others it is some other app. Usually when you stop using the trigger app the software reboots go away.
You need to make the decision for yourself. There will be lots of people saying no problem and lots of people saying they got multiple units all with issues.
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i think mine is definitely, hardware, maybe , cuz of user error, ie, bad dirty flashing of zips, i dont' want to start all over fresh again, too many apps/settings to revert back (yes call me lazy sob)
most of the reboots happen when im clicking on an app with wifi on , but one of my last reboots, it just just rebooted out of the blue, i didn't even touch the tablet, but i seen it reboot!
Not sure, really, whether I have/had problems or not. Got mine over the weekend. During my initial playing, I did not notice any touch issues. The GPS would lock, but I didn't have time to take it anywhere for long enough to be sure if it would stay locked for a long period of time. Almost immediately (1 day) I got the JSS15Q OTA update. The GPS DOES seem to lock a bit faster, and I seem to be seeing more satellites than before -- it could be my imagination, though. Still no touch issues that I can see.
New Nexus 7 (then) past issues, (now), Cool TAB!
phab3k said:
I know a lot of people have reported the GPS issues and the touch issues, but I've never experienced them myself. I bought mine the day it was released, 32gb model.
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I HAD issues out of the box. Waited for the first update from Google, rebooted once after. Took forever to get the screen to respond to any kind of tap. Rebooted a couple of times and was able to get somewhat R E A S O N A B L E response out of the screen. GPS would work for all of 2 minutes and then shut down. No problems with Wi-Fi.
That was then, along came update: JSS15Q! All is happy in Nexus land. GPS is strong and works flawlessly even in the darkest center of my house! Screen is responsive my fingers are happy.
APPS? That is another matter, remember, even with a stock Nexus 7 fhd you are on the bleeding edge meaning that many apps found on Google Play may fail. Live with it until either the app is updated, ***** at the (no don't *****, contact the developer and kindly tell him/her your problem; or find another app that works for now.
Games? Heh, that is a real crapshoot. If it won't function, move on.
This is one hell of a tablet with excellent video, good sound, fast processing. Short of it not being the size of my 60" monitor (TV) I can read everything with these 78 year old eyes!
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Guys, just wanted to say thanks for all the posts. You help me make up my mind, and gave some sound advice.
I've took the plunge and brought the 32gb model (from a big high street retailer), and I have to say....what a cracking little tablet this thing is, I am really impressed with it. I have not had any issues with it, so I seem to be one of the lucky ones....either that or they have fixed the issues by the time we got them in the UK.
I do feel for all the people who had problems though, its a nightmare when these thing happen. Theres no doubt there has been or are some issues out there, one thing with a Nexus device I guess is it is patched fast if its sw...obviously hw is a different issue.
Looking forward to enjoying this device now, if I can get on it....have to wrestle it off the wife and kids first!
......thanks again guys.
Pete.
Just got my 32gb Nexus today in the UK. Only thing I have noticed is that tap and hold on screen is slow to react. Can take a couple of trys before it works. Sometimes taping an app is slow to open. Running stock and latest update. Only change made is to use Nova as the launcher.
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To Wugfresh Re: Toolkit
This is a followup to my 2 confusing Twitter's I made it worse by referencing Nexus 4 and 7 so I will stick to 7 (mostly). I now realize that lurking has its penalties since I need 9 posts after this before I can post this in the relevant thread (with a nostalgic tear for the days we welcomed all comers and left our doors unlocked).
I bought an N7 FHD (2nd gen) and rooted it after the 4.3 auto update soft bricked (right term of art?) it. I used the other toolkit to restore it to JDQ39 factory unrooted. Then it installed JSS15J. Today it tried to do an update and (presumably) it failed because of rooting. That build is no longer on the developer's website and has been replaced by JSS15Q. I would never presume to call myself a developer but my first modem was a 300 baud acoustic coupler and I have a 5 1/2" floppy disks older then most of you and it's actually floppy. ROFL.
Back to reality, on the Nexus 4, I could not discern how to upgrade to the latest Y build but I did manage to restore it to factory settings and Google handled the rest, You were kind enough to add JSS15J to your toolkit for the Nexus 4 but it is not available (in your drop-down) for the Nexus 7. I figured that if you made JSS15J available for the N7 I could restore the N7 to a factory fresh un-rooted one and Google could update it to JSS15Q. In the alternative you might guide me to how I could go from JSS15J to JSS15Q. I am certainly not in your league but this is not my first rodeo and I cannot tell you how grateful I am for your efforts. Your toolkit saved my Nexus 4 from the 2 week wait during which Google might have told me rooting voids the warranty or just have left me phone-less till they returned it.
Again thank you especially, and to all the others here who light candles in the darkness for each other and the rest of us pilgrims. A tip of my fedora to ya. Never forget one definition of a pioneer is someone with an arrow in their back.
Much of the time I am as confused as a baby in a topless bar who said, "What do you mean this is not a lunchroom, what else could it be?"
My suggestion is to keep root, grab the latest carbon ROM, the elemental 1.1 kernel and you should be all set. They already have the updates From G in them and they work superb.
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Do you own one?
Yes, from day one.
Have you had a problem?
Yes, GPS and the touchscreen grounding issue.
Is it now fixed by the update?
Yes, GPS seems fixed.
No, grounding issue may be worse. Works fins as long as I'm holding it. Placing it causes touches to become sporadic.
Maybe you've never had any problems?
I wish...
Would you recommend getting one?
Yes, it still a FANTASTIC device and many have no issues. If you do return it right away until you get one without issues.
I spoke too soon....at first I thought everything was ok....then I began to notice when I was typing that sometimes it would come out as gibberish. I thought nothing of it as we all make typos now and then, then I noticed that press and hold didn't always register (sometimes takes a few goes). I downloaded the multi-touch test from play and to my horror it's all over the place (compared it against my note 2), this is with the latest update. After reading around a bit more, I'm beginning to think these touch screen issues are hardware....and that it's more widespread than people think. Will be exchanging it for another one, hopefully fair better second time.
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madpete said:
Will be exchanging it for another one, hopefully fair better second time.
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Before you return, perhaps you could try this thread:
Take that multi-touch! Fix and lock in what works for YOU regardless of updates
sfhub said:
Before you return, perhaps you could try this thread:
Take that multi-touch! Fix and lock in what works for YOU regardless of updates
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Hey man, thanks for the reply.
I opted for the swap out because I don't want to loose the warranty, which I believe you would if you unlocked it?
I bought from PC World / Currys so the swap was no hassle.
Using the new one now, its testing better and typing and "hold and drag" is working much better (although hold and drag still isn't 100%, it's now acceptable to me).
I tested before and after the update, the observation I made is that the update seems to dull down the touch screen a little. It became slightly less responsive after the update than before, but hasn't really affected the usability on this one....although I think I prefered it pre update.
Phone was sold as is, it turned on but the battery was drained completely and died soon after reaching home screen. I took a plunge since price was $50 tempting Washingtons :laugh: I was 100% sure something is wrong with this device but **** it i did it. Bought a charger and USB cable on the way home and so far it's charging just fine.
Phone is mostly erased at least manually I think, because somebody left his google account as I can see email in the plays store menu and some apps, or maybe this is all the carrier pre-installed junk I'm looking at ? LOL
I don't have much experience with Samsung devices but it's a SM-N900T model with N900TUVUCNB4 4.4.2. from February 2014 according to this site http://www.galaxynote3update.com/galaxy-note-3-odin-factory-stock-firmware-usa-canada/
My question is do I stay on this Android or do I jump to Lolipop ? Wasn't there some memory issues with 5.0 ? Or maybe Custom builds ?
Your first move is to sell it to me for $5
If I was OP, I would fully charge the phone, do full factory reset and run it few days as is to test if everything works,. Once you start updating, especially custom ROM, things can break and you'll never know if it's software or hardware. If everything works fine, then you could decide for yourself what to do next. My biggest worry would be the phone is blacklisted, since Note 3 in good shape sells for $200-$300.
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
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If you're planning on keeping it, you'd be better spending the extra $ on one of these mate: http://www.amazon.com/Zerolemon-Zer...d=1453047493&sr=1-1&keywords=ZeroLemon+Note+3
I'm getting 6 days on a full charge outta mine, compared to 1 day with stock battery (course I'm running a custom rom, but when I was back on stock with my ZeroLemon, I was getting 3 days outta it)
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
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Actually you can root the phone easily, even without tripping knox on kitkat, once rooted you could freeze or kill on start up most apps that bother you, that's what I do and problem solved, phone runs like a dream.
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If I was OP, I would fully charge the phone, do full factory reset and run it few days as is to test if everything works,. Once you start updating, especially custom ROM, things can break and you'll never know if it's software or hardware. If everything works fine, then you could decide for yourself what to do next. My biggest worry would be the phone is blacklisted, since Note 3 in good shape sells for $200-$300.
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There is actually an easy way to not worry about the blacklisted issue before you ever buy a phone from someone. You can go to www.swappa.com/esn and check the status of the phone by entering it's IMEI. We buy and resell phones a lot and this is how we check them. You can check up to 10 phones free every 24 hours on the site.
4xxxxL said:
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Phone charged fully I booted it up and after short amount of time it would freeze constantly when bringing up the keyboard (Samsung or google), can't recall which one was first now because I was changing them in settings and nothing helped. Either way it was freezing after typing couple of letters or appear then crash/disappear. All this combined with some crashes from app called Lookout. Google told me to do Volume UP+HOME+POWER and do a factory reset, after that everything works fine now. Changed my sim card and I can place calls with no issues also data works fine but damn there is tons of f***ing poopy preloaded apps in here from Samsung and other garbagio . I think whoever was using this device had no idea what to do with those errors and just stopped using it somewhere around Feb. 2014 because since then basically nothing was updated on it. I'm gonna let it sit for couple of days then probably will upgrade to 5.0 via KIES and maybe replace the battery either way with OEM or maybe something like this ? http://www.amazon.com/Anker-T-Mobile-Compatibility-18-Month-Warranty/dp/B00FF54C8Q/
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Sounds like you did get lucky and come across someone who wasn't tech savvy at all, and had no idea how simple it was to fix. But hey... that's their lose and your gain.
If you do decide to root it at some point and want to run a custom ROM, click on the top banner in my signature and check it out. I think you might just like it.
kevp75 said:
If you're planning on keeping it, you'd be better spending the extra $ on one of these mate: http://www.amazon.com/Zerolemon-Zer...d=1453047493&sr=1-1&keywords=ZeroLemon+Note+3
I'm getting 6 days on a full charge outta mine, compared to 1 day with stock battery (course I'm running a custom rom, but when I was back on stock with my ZeroLemon, I was getting 3 days outta it)
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Yeah man, there is an awesome custom ROM out for this phone. I can't remember the name right off hand, but I'm sure you've heard of it. Haha
pete4k said:
Actually you can root the phone easily, even without tripping knox on kitkat, once rooted you could freeze or kill on start up most apps that bother you, that's what I do and problem solved, phone runs like a dream.
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You can freeze them, but in my opinion if you've gone to the trouble of rooting it, you might as well completely remove the bloatware. If all you do is freeze the apps, they are still there needlessly taking up the internal storage. There are a few lists on here that tells what is safe to remove without fear of messing the phone up.
problem with deleting "bloatware" is two fold: some programs are interdependent and deleting one you don't want may break another you need. Also, I don't know about others, but I changed my mind in the past and reactivated some applications I never thought I'll be using before.
As far as space goes, the whole system uses 4 GB maybe, so you could save 1 GB, if you're aggressive deleting files, probably couple min of 4k video worth. I got 128 GB sd card, problem solved. Maybe different story with Note 5, but that's one of main reasons I never upgraded.
Either way I strongly suggest at least freezing apps and testing before deleting it.
TimboMachimbo said:
Your first move is to sell it to me for $5
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Lmao
Still been using the device to watch stuff on wifi @ home and **** Can't use it as my daily driver it's just to big :0 anyway the other hidden issue that I found out about it is that the charging port is kinda beaten up especially on the left side. Sometimes you can plug the cable in and it won't charge until you apply little pressure on the connectors left side it's time to do this http://www.amazon.com/Charging-Ribbon-Connector-Samsung-T-Mobile/dp/B00H3DZRXC/
Alliance Rom
4xxxxL said:
Phone was sold as is, it turned on but the battery was drained completely and died soon after reaching home screen. I took a plunge since price was $50 tempting Washingtons :laugh: I was 100% sure something is wrong with this device but **** it i did it. Bought a charger and USB cable on the way home and so far it's charging just fine.
Phone is mostly erased at least manually I think, because somebody left his google account as I can see email in the plays store menu and some apps, or maybe this is all the carrier pre-installed junk I'm looking at ? LOL
I don't have much experience with Samsung devices but it's a SM-N900T model with N900TUVUCNB4 4.4.2. from February 2014 according to this site http://www.galaxynote3update.com/galaxy-note-3-odin-factory-stock-firmware-usa-canada/
My question is do I stay on this Android or do I jump to Lolipop ? Wasn't there some memory issues with 5.0 ? Or maybe Custom builds ?
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Flash Alliance 5.0 Lollipop ...best rom for note 3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-alliancerom-n900t-uvufob6-v1-online-t3055309
Replaced the charging port with the $5 one I bought via Amazon... charging worked great but the voice recording and mic in general sounded garbled had to put the broken one back lol :S
The last phone I had was a Galaxy S2 and rooting and installing a new ROM was quite simple. They even had directions+tools to revert back to stock... What's the deal now?
What is dm-verity and how do I figure out if the ROM I want to install has it.. disabled? enabled?
I have no more warranty so I'm not worried about triggering knox.
This latest update has basically fried my battery... the battery discharges in about 3-4 hours using youtube red with airplane mode enabled, and the battery is also quite warm (at least 100 degrees F!)
I just want to be able to disable/enable services I want.
I'm on SM-G925T on 6.0.1/G925TUVS4EPH2, specifically. How do I find compatible ROMs and roots? I don't want to brick anything.
I understand this is a long shot since I see so many other posts with no replies but, I'm kind of desperate. I'm actually worried my phone might explode because of how warm it gets now.
I just got the phone about two days ago, did all the 8000 updates via OTA (phone came with 5.0.2) and landed on the 6.01 EPH2 that you're on and my battery life has been absolutely horrible as well. I'm thinking about returning the phone over it. Idk what to do.
xy34 said:
The last phone I had was a Galaxy S2 and rooting and installing a new ROM was quite simple. They even had directions+tools to revert back to stock... What's the deal now?
What is dm-verity and how do I figure out if the ROM I want to install has it.. disabled? enabled?
I have no more warranty so I'm not worried about triggering knox.
This latest update has basically fried my battery... the battery discharges in about 3-4 hours using youtube red with airplane mode enabled, and the battery is also quite warm (at least 100 degrees F!)
I just want to be able to disable/enable services I want.
I'm on SM-G925T on 6.0.1/G925TUVS4EPH2, specifically. How do I find compatible ROMs and roots? I don't want to brick anything.
I understand this is a long shot since I see so many other posts with no replies but, I'm kind of desperate. I'm actually worried my phone might explode because of how warm it gets now.
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Thus device has been horrile for me too...
I have been trying to find folks who could actually communicate and help a little too..
Had a galaxy 3 in 2010 and a s4 in 2014, both were easy... bootloop, flash again.. not much risks..
Here we cant even remove the batteries and a lot of rhinfs that can make it stuck....
I do have root and twrp recovery btw..
If you want help getting those, just install telegram and search for user DSN .
I can help faster there and also link up to a few rom threads where people are quite active incase for help
I've been modding and ROMing for what seems like almost 10 years, the ROM development on this phone is horrible, I blame Samsung for this, too many variants, had the S6 on 4 networks and S6 edge on 4 networks, Hopefully Google makes a really nice new phone or I'm going to the other side.
I guess it's starting to make more sense now. Samsung obviously tried to squash custom build efforts by releasing so many different variants. It's a bit reassuring that people are having the same problems as I am...
To the person who just got the phone - RETURN IT!
Ironically, after I did a lot of browsing on this site during my morning commute, the phone started behaving better. It's still slow (not in my OP but it's definitely freezing whereas this wasn't an issue before) but the battery life is back to normal-ish levels and it hasn't warmed up on me. Maybe just keep browsing this site? LOL
Thanks, Samsung... I used to love the Galaxy line but this is some real Apple-esque **** (y'know, the whole updating the phone before the next generation gets released and having it run slow as **** thing.) Just Google the issue and there's lots of claims. I remember reading a reddit post where an Apple employee or cell phone repair store employee was saying that he'd have an influx of customers just before a new phone release.
It's all speculation but I wouldn't be surprised. They (Samsung) just did it after S7 got released. Too bad I'm stuck paying $30/month for this phone for the next two years. Never should have updated! It was perfect before all this.
That was me. Return it for what though? There's not much else in the price range that I was able to put down for a down payment that tmobile offers.....I put 276 down and the phone cost 499 total. The G5 is also 499 but I see nothing but complaints about it.......the S7 and S7 Edge they wanted close to 450 down and I just couldn't afford that so I went with the S6 Edge. What else is there?
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That was me. Return it for what though? There's not much else in the price range that I was able to put down for a down payment that tmobile offers.....I put 276 down and the phone cost 499 total. The G5 is also 499 but I see nothing but complaints about it.......the S7 and S7 Edge they wanted close to 450 down and I just couldn't afford that so I went with the S6 Edge. What else is there?
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Look into the LG G4, maybe. Same era as the S6 but it's got a removable battery and external storage and I think it's easier to install custom software and root, but hopefully you won't need to if it runs well. Do your own research, yknow! Don't blindly follow anyone's advice, obviously. Let me know what you decide.