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I was just curious to know if someone else's phone is over heating. Yesterday I was watching a boxing match on youtube with 4G on and it reached to a scary 121°. 4 hours later I was playing the nova demo with the screen at 45% brightness, played for like 20 minutes or so and it reached 112°. Just whanted to figure out if this is normal that personallyI think is not, and also if someone else it's experiencing the same issue. Thanks
Edit: Both of times I was indoorsjust in case someone is wondering.
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Mine can get much hotter than that but it pretty much hovers around the 120 range when I'm browsing the web.
I also get this message when charging and watching a video. I need to exchange it. Just need to find a Best Buy store that has one in stock.
What do you use to check the temp?
mine gets real hot as well.. I think it has to do with charging while using though.
Woow thats amazing. Im guessing that those temperatures can be harmful to the phone right?
I use system info from the market to check my phone status very useful
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mine gets real hot as well.. I think it has to do with charging while using though.
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It could be that and the stock charge pushed a lot of power in to charge quicker... But my input is that my phone hasnt even gotten very hot at all..
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I was just curious to know if someone else's phone is over heating. Yesterday I was watching a boxing match on youtube with 4G on and it reached to a scary 121°. 4 hours later I was playing the nova demo with the screen at 45% brightness, played for like 20 minutes or so and it reached 112°. Just whanted to figure out if this is normal that personallyI think is not, and also if someone else it's experiencing the same issue. Thanks
Edit: Both of times I was indoorsjust in case someone is wondering.
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My phone was just laying in shotgun of my car with the car charger plugged in and the display on, then all of a sudden I picked it up and it was hella hot! 120° read SetCPU and I got shook, ripped the battery out and threw the phone in front of an AC but then I got worried that the extremities could possibly warp the board, so now Im thinking Im going to return my phone! In no way can this be good for the phone, I don't see how it can not get affect it when reaching 120, 130, 140 degrees!!! Im worried that in a week, a month, a year from now something will go terribly wrong and I really don't want to risk it, so I'm real close to returning this phone and just waiting for the Nexus!
I am amazed that a phone getting hot after heavy use is such a surprise to everyone. See any fans? see any ventilation? Here you are using a dual core 1.5 GZ processor, what were you expecting, ice water?
Ahh... Set CPU. So you can't really find the temp until you're rooted?
Hmm
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I am amazed that a phone getting hot after heavy use is such a surprise to everyone. See any fans? see any ventilation? Here you are using a dual core 1.5 GZ processor, what were you expecting, ice water?
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Who mentioned anything about heavy usage and overclocking? CPU is 1.2Ghz stock buddy and I wasn't doing anything on my phone at the time it overheated...I have a Droid Incredible 2, and I run its CPU OC to 2.035Ghz and its never once gone over 105 degrees, so before you go getting all amazed, get your facts straight!
I have noticed this too.
With the phone simply in my pocket, my leg would feel warm. I could grab the phone and the phone would feel quite hot. Not so hot that it would burn my ear, but warm enough that it would feel like there's some kind of problem. Usually, heat = battery getting drained. When I check to see if there's anything running, there's nothing...
Right now, have been listening to Spotify for over 2 hours, and it's cold as ambient temperature. Will try installing some monitoring program and report if I notice more heat issues. I know the Evo3D used to get "burns my ear" hot when using it as GPS while connected to the car charger. My guess was that if the screen is on, and there's power going to it, it'd always get hot. Maybe it wasn't supposed to and that was just my assumption. However, same thing happens to this one; watching netflix, or playing a game, or anything demanding, and if I'm plugged, it will get really hot, really fast. If not connected, it won't get as hot, but "normally" hot nonetheless.
http://an.droid-life.com/2011/09/21/is-your-samsung-epic-4g-touch-getting-too-hot-to-handle/
Feel free to stop by and comment if you're having similar problems.
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I have noticed this too.
With the phone simply in my pocket, my leg would feel warm. I could grab the phone and the phone would feel quite hot. Not so hot that it would burn my ear, but warm enough that it would feel like there's some kind of problem. Usually, heat = battery getting drained. When I check to see if there's anything running, there's nothing...
Right now, have been listening to Spotify for over 2 hours, and it's cold as ambient temperature. Will try installing some monitoring program and report if I notice more heat issues. I know the Evo3D used to get "burns my ear" hot when using it as GPS while connected to the car charger. My guess was that if the screen is on, and there's power going to it, it'd always get hot. Maybe it wasn't supposed to and that was just my assumption. However, same thing happens to this one; watching netflix, or playing a game, or anything demanding, and if I'm plugged, it will get really hot, really fast. If not connected, it won't get as hot, but "normally" hot nonetheless.
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That you know of, did they ever fix the issue on the Evo3D?
Let me put it another way. I don't see any process or feature that will cool down the phone when in moderate to heavy use. I expect it to get hot. I have always thought, how are they going to disperse the heat?
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Let me put it another way. I don't see any process or feature that will cool down the phone when in moderate to heavy use. I expect it to get hot. I have always thought, how are they going to disperse the heat?
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I don't know dude but what I do know is that I have the Incredible 2 overclocked to over 2Ghz!!! and my Xoom at 1.7Ghz and neither one of them has every gotten this hot before!!
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I don't know dude but what I do know is that I have the Incredible 2 overclocked to over 2Ghz!!! and my Xoom at 1.7Ghz and neither one of them has every gotten this hot before!!
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Ill second this srongly, I think than anything over 107 with this technology is NOT friendly at all.
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Mine got hot on day 1 from youtube and general setup but after a full nights charge it has been great for 2 full days, no heating up or anything weird.
But man did it get hot!
Edit: I turned off gps the night this happened. I have been using my phone alot and have not experienced this again.
You need a dose of Penicillin and Cortizone. The burning sensations should clear up. In the mean time, stay away from strange phones and turn off the vibration loop - LOL
Sorry, but I've done quite a bit with my phone (videos, NetFlix, etc...) and it doesn't get warm enough to burn.
An Intel CPU (i7, for example) can run at 200 degrees Fahreneheit. In fact, the roof is about 100 degrees Celsius. To protect the CPU, there are heatsinks, fans, water cooling, etc. Video cards can also go up to 70 degrees celsius before showing artifacts; some can do much better.
We're commenting a heat that is not nearly that much for a phone. IF the SOC gets to 100 degrees celsius, that's one thing; 100 degrees fahrenheit...that is the temperature in many places around here.
These SOC don't need such fans, heatsinks, etc, because they're not supposed to reach temps of 200 degrees. They should be self contained.
On my Evo3D, which I passed on to my father, I could smell like something was burning. It wasn't, but it smelled like if it were, around the battery. Yeah, it still gets hot when in use, and specially if connected.
I believe there's also comments that on all new phones, the first few charges, while the battery adapts, the phone may be hot. Of course it had been over 2 months on my Evo3D and it still gets hot.
The E4gT is doing better today, but I haven't thrown any video/games at it yet; nor has it been in my pocket.
I'd say give it a couple days. I know I've reported my own concern, and I'll be checking it to make sure the "hotness" is within reasonable limits.
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Ahh... Set CPU. So you can't really find the temp until you're rooted?
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you can check it using this add on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809588
So when I load my GN with a lot of stuff like redownloading all my apps after a system wipe or use the camera for a long time with flash on, it heats up around the camera but not the battery. I was wondering if it's normal and if others have the same experience. Post if you do pls.
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it's normal when using lots of data or heavy 3D gaming. Unless it starts burning you, theres nothing to be worried about.
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it's normal when using lots of data or heavy 3D gaming. Unless it starts burning you, theres nothing to be worried about.
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Thanks for the info. My GN stays at normal temp. when I'm not loading it up do much. But when it heats up, the temp. is not what I'd expect from a phone so I was kinda worried.
Mine gets warm doing anything over 3g/4g for more then 5 minutes, I see it as high as 105 F, which is not too bad i guess. I know they can go up to 140 or so I think before shutting down.
I still don't like it, but I guess all this power in these phones has to get hot.
Yeah with a computer the heat's properly evacuated but with mobile devices like notebooks and powerful mobiles you'll definitely feel the heat.
Still it's very annoying.
IIRC (from Androidcentral.com?), there's a bug in 4.0.2 and below that doesn't turn the camera threads off when using the face recognition signin. You can address this by activating and then deactivating the camera. If not, the camera simply heats up and battery life takes a hit.
I turned off the face-recognition signin and have noticed dramatic improvement in battery life. YMMV.
This do happens to my gnexus. Hot spot comes from the top close to camera area. Happens when I'm playing games or online a lot.
I preordered the Galaxy Nexus for Sprint the week before the release, and I've been having heat issues since I got it.
So I paid for "TempMonitor" on Google Play so I could monitor the temperature of the battery but the battery was only 40c and rarely goes above 45c. The CPU however is what is getting hot. When I say this thing gets hot, I mean it, and only while charging and in use. If its not charging, it will get warm but not hot like I'm talking. During light usage the CPU will rise to 55c or more and while playing a game it has gone as high as 65c, it burns to touch the screen at these temperatures and when it gets hot like this the touch screen also becomes unresponsive for multitouch.
Already starred the issue #23044 on android's google code page for the multitouch issues though.
Exchange if possible. Those temps seem to high to offset by anything you can do tweaking wise. Or you have something rogue using cpu cycles keeping the heat up.
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Do you have a case? My Seidio Active does a GREAT job at insulating the heat coming off the phone and holding it in.
If I'm playing a CPU/GPU intense game or app, it'll easily be 15 degrees warmer with the case than without it.
I do have a case so that's probably the reason. Mostly silicon rubber. I've just never had a phone get so hot I thought it was unusual.
I use Watchdog Lite to monitor background apps for high CPU usage and it rarely ever goes off. The only app I use that it notifies me about is Facebook which has the tendency to use 40-50% CPU while in the background
This phone does get hot when I'm on the internet and only then its the top half where I imagine the CPU is
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I took off the case.and have been browsing these forums. Still running as hot as 65c with random jumps in temperature. It will go from 55 to 65 in a matter of seconds.
Over 3G? That would be almost normal. Also stock correct? I get a little bit warm over wifi browsing so I would assume some heat over poor 3G signal.
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This summer, I bought this phone but sold it after a week because it had a ton of problems, including overheating. Today, I bought the phone again, because I wanted to give it another chance. Right now, in the middle of winter with less than 20C in my room, I was playing Temple Run when I started noticing the phone was getting warmer. I thought "well, this is normal, I have been playing a 3D game for about 20 minutes, I bet it hasn't overheated like it happened this summer, that one was probably defective too, it's just getting a bit warm, that's all", but guess what? I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets.
I. CAN'T. BELIEVE. IT.
I guess it's my fault though, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
This phone is such a piece of crap it gave me the most buyer's remorse I've ever had.
6000 points on Quadrant? The max I got was around 3400...
Anyway, I think it is normal to a device to overheat and lose performance when it gets hotter. Same for too cold (under 0ºC). The colder, the better the performance. That's why all eletronics should be kept cool.
I could have excused it for overheating during summer with 35C room temperature, but with less than 20C and after just less than one hour?
How is this acceptable? Seriously, what is wrong with this phone?
I am raging uncontrollably right now. I can't believe I was so stupid to get this turdphone TWICE before realizing it was indeed a massive stinking turd.
And yeah, it's not 6000 points but 3500, when it overheats it gets much less, and I notice it's happening even before the score gets displayed, because usually the planet thingy runs at 60FPS but when it's overheated it runs at around 40.
GOD DAMN.
Oh and by the way, if it overheats during gameplay, it also overheats during web browsing or EVERYTHING really. And EVERY SINGLE XPERIA S IN EXISTENCE has this problem. Yours too.
You better not use it too much, or it might overheat and start running slower than a X10. What, you bought your phone to use it? LOLZ.
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definitely rom/kernel problem.. what's rom u use? have u update it to latest .55? u unlock the bootloader? u just b*tching without give any details.
the colder the hardware is not the better the performance, there's something called operating temp. usually u cant use the hardware if it's not in its operating temp (like PC processer, it cant boot when 0 degree Celsius, but booting fine at 30 degrees or -27 (subzero) degrees). if u get lower performance, usually it's because the driver/applications that order the processor to lower itself.
when i was using custom stock rom, i've played Nova 3 with my friends (wifi) for around 45 minutes, and it hasnt got lags, sure the phone was very hot, but the performance wasnt drop. now im using cm10, still got no lags when playing games (Trial Xtreme 3 is very fun & challenging and surely a phone heater, ive spent bout 2 hours playing, got low battery, charging it (thx for the fast charging) for 1 hour and half, then playing it again.. still got no lags )
so, surely the problems is in the rom.. since ur in xda, try fix it urself... if u wont, just f*kin' sell it
About overheat on my phone, yeah it does sometimes. During summer it can get up to 40C (the ambient, not phone), the phone overheats while using for browsing, but I think it's normal.
It gets hot when playing NFS:MW, the performance drops but I just have to leave there for 30 min and its good again.
The phone generally gets up to 43 C when playing...
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m1st3r1 said:
definitely rom/kernel problem.. what's rom u use? have u update it to latest .55? u unlock the bootloader? u just b*tching without give any details.
the colder the hardware is not the better the performance, there's something called operating temp. usually u cant use the hardware if it's not in its operating temp (like PC processer, it cant boot when 0 degree Celsius, but booting fine at 30 degrees or -27 (subzero) degrees). if u get lower performance, usually it's because the driver/applications that order the processor to lower itself.
when i was using custom stock rom, i've played Nova 3 with my friends (wifi) for around 45 minutes, and it hasnt got lags, sure the phone was very hot, but the performance wasnt drop. now im using cm10, still got no lags when playing games (Trial Xtreme 3 is very fun & challenging and surely a phone heater, ive spent bout 2 hours playing, got low battery, charging it (thx for the fast charging) for 1 hour and half, then playing it again.. still got no lags )
so, surely the problems is in the rom.. since ur in xda, try fix it urself... if u wont, just f*kin' sell it
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Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
Anyway, I am not sure if every phone somehow clocks itself down when it gets hot and then starts running like crap until it cools down again, but on all the phones I've used in my life, this is the only one that does it and after such a short period of heavy usage. It's just ridiculous, there should be class actions up sony's ass for this, but it seems like I'm the only one who realized this happens and literally cripples the phone's performance until you stop using it, basically.
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Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
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If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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MarkMRL said:
Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
Anyway, I am not sure if every phone somehow clocks itself down when it gets hot and then starts running like crap until it cools down again, but on all the phones I've used in my life, this is the only one that does it and after such a short period of heavy usage. It's just ridiculous, there should be class actions up sony's ass for this, but it seems like I'm the only one who realized this happens and literally cripples the phone's performance until you stop using it, basically.
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I know how to keep the performance as good as it was cold. But the temperature won't drop i meant it's still warm.
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MarkMRL said:
This summer, I bought this phone but sold it after a week because it had a ton of problems, including overheating. Today, I bought the phone again, because I wanted to give it another chance. Right now, in the middle of winter with less than 20C in my room, I was playing Temple Run when I started noticing the phone was getting warmer. I thought "well, this is normal, I have been playing a 3D game for about 20 minutes, I bet it hasn't overheated like it happened this summer, that one was probably defective too, it's just getting a bit warm, that's all", but guess what? I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets.
I. CAN'T. ****ING. BELIEVE. IT.
I guess it's my fault though, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
This phone is such a piece of crap it gave me the most buyer's remorse I've ever had.
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Idiots shouldn't buy smart phones. That's all i can say.
Felimenta97 said:
If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
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I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
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It overheats, and it should, because you're running a 3D game. Again, it clocks down to avoid bigger overheat and damage. My phone performance keeps the same after 1 hour of playing NFS:MW. It just need a few minutes to start the processes again, since the game use it all.
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Felimenta97 said:
If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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um..that's not the case, AT ALL.
The thermal throttling kicked in so that's why the OP seeing lowered performance.
Please read more about hardware before you post these.
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Piyush Rawal said:
Idiots shouldn't buy smart phones. That's all i can say.
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Ooo....Internet smart guy! From India! Wow what a deal!
MarkMRL said:
I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
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If you're dealing with overheating computers all day long then you're doing something wrong, Maybe time for a career change, Probably same with phone.
Love it when people rage.
OP, buy another phone then, problem solved, you're welcome. :good:
God help you it you bought a S3, but seriously time of year is not gonna change a overheating issue and 35-40 is the ideal temp for optimal performance
And I know 4 people in IT, and their knowledge is pretty much on par with yours judging by your posts
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MarkMRL said:
I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
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Of course the phone should get hot, and if it does the CPU should def do something about it and underclock
Also why do you have to swear so much? girlfriend problems? limp noodle?
also if ur going to buy something to test its gaming prowess, buy a psp or something
my advice? stop being a moron.
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"I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets."
thats not permanent, its the app staying in cahced processes just in case it needs relaunching. try ending the process and try benchmarking again
you find removing it from the ram as a process may help
i just ran quadrant on mine
its warm cause im playing music and have tons of crap open. it hasnt slowed down. and its score was 2937. i dont see the issue though? the number means nothing on its own. its a potential comaprison tool
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It overheats, and it should, because you're running a 3D game. Again, it clocks down to avoid bigger overheat and damage. My phone performance keeps the same after 1 hour of playing NFS:MW. It just need a few minutes to start the processes again, since the game use it all.
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Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
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If you're dealing with overheating computers all day long then you're doing something wrong, Maybe time for a career change, Probably same with phone.
Love it when people rage.
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Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
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Of course the phone should get hot, and if it does the CPU should def do something about it and underclock
Also why do you have to swear so much? girlfriend problems? limp noodle?
also if ur going to buy something to test its gaming prowess, buy a psp or something
my advice? stop being a moron.
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"I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets."
thats not permanent, its the app staying in cahced processes just in case it needs relaunching. try ending the process and try benchmarking again
you find removing it from the ram as a process may help
i just ran quadrant on mine
its warm cause im playing music and have tons of crap open. it hasnt slowed down. and its score was 2937. i dont see the issue though? the number means nothing on its own. its a potential comaprison tool
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You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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Which temperature separates heating and overheating, then?
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MarkMRL said:
Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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It's 45 nm, dual core and 1.5 gHz. ofc it got hot. But not overheating. When the hardware is overheating, it'll turn off, u should know that.. I said again, it's the rom/kernel that asked the procie to lower itself when in some temp. mine? I never have this problem since in cm10. Read my posts again. And surely I benchmarked over and over again (antutu) and the scores are vary, but not very much (I even got Max scored at my fifth try, the phone was hot though, but it was alright)
And if u search about xperia s overheating, there are some talks (even here in xda) bout performance hits, etc.. but it was way back there... I thought ppl already learn how to handle this... well, I thought wrong.
Ang if u thought the phone is hot, try playing with HTC one x...
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MarkMRL said:
Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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i said remove it as a cahed process then run it again.
also why run a benchmark. its a hypothtical scoring number
when using wifi/4g in my house, i watched video, browsed fb and even shared internet and all. below i'll give my observations:
in wifi:
watching video, fb and browsing, whatsappin: the phone get very very slightly warm like not warm just the bit different from the phones usual temp like it hovers around 33-34.
when gaming in wifi it goes arounf 36-39 (NOVA 3) battery never crossed 31..
4g in my house, battery arounf 32-33, temperature around 37-39 for all.
but when i step out of my house, like when i'm operating my mobile in train/bus and the ambient temperature varies from say 28-32, my phone gets considerably hot and today, i was travelling in Bus and the ambient temp was around 35 and i was just browsing , watching videos and fb, my phone became hot like it even would have touched 43-46! i felt it hot to touch, is this norma(it's making me extremely paranoid)l!!??? if this is the case what happens if it's summer here, the phone would become blazingly hot, coz in summer ambient temp would be around 36-44 and all!!
Is this normala or am i unlucky for the second time ? I'm getting paranoid!
Just hit them back up
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Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
msvr3 said:
when using wifi/4g in my house, i watched video, browsed fb and even shared internet and all. below i'll give my observations:
in wifi:
watching video, fb and browsing, whatsappin: the phone get very very slightly warm like not warm just the bit different from the phones usual temp like it hovers around 33-34.
when gaming in wifi it goes arounf 36-39 (NOVA 3) battery never crossed 31..
4g in my house, battery arounf 32-33, temperature around 37-39 for all.
but when i step out of my house, like when i'm operating my mobile in train/bus and the ambient temperature varies from say 28-32, my phone gets considerably hot and today, i was travelling in Bus and the ambient temp was around 35 and i was just browsing , watching videos and fb, my phone became hot like it even would have touched 43-46! i felt it hot to touch, is this norma(it's making me extremely paranoid)l!!??? if this is the case what happens if it's summer here, the phone would become blazingly hot, coz in summer ambient temp would be around 36-44 and all!!
Is this normala or am i unlucky for the second time ? I'm getting paranoid!
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With heavy multitasking, I hit 60+. Not regularly, but it has happened. The temperatures you're hitting are normal for me. I've had zero issues with the device. I have an OtterBox case, so I don't feel the heat as much. Honestly, I barely even notice heat at those temperatures. Considering the fact that the body of the device is aluminum, it's going to easily get hot to the touch.
Also, my One would almost always run between 45-70, and I've had that since launch. Used it heavily daily for years, and I still use it regularly as an app development device. No issues.
These devices have extremely powerful processors. They get hot. There's not an easy, efficient, way to cool a processor in a device like this yet, but they're designed for heavy use, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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Hi first of all thanks for the reply.. I'll tell you what really made me paranoid.. Every evening I travel in bus and train and the ambient temperature would be from27-28_29.. I use 4g jio.. I just browsw/fb/insta.. In minutes my phone near the earpiece on the screen gets warmed up and it'd go around 40-41. Then I lock it it cools down fast but when I unlock it in seconds again starts warming up... My friend using same 4g in moto g4plus but his screen is cooler than mine... Please my one last doubt...
This is nothing lol. I live in Scotland so just now ambient temperature range from 5-13 °c and in my house 21-23°c and my Z3+ hits 60-70°c easily on heavy use. Benchmarked it one day and hit 90°c. The joys of the 810 chipset. Anyway away to upgrade to the OP3T so i should see and feel a massive difference.
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Hi first of all thanks for the reply.. I'll tell you what really made me paranoid.. Every evening I travel in bus and train and the ambient temperature would be from27-28_29.. I use 4g jio.. I just browsw/fb/insta.. In minutes my phone near the earpiece on the screen gets warmed up and it'd go around 40-41. Then I lock it it cools down fast but when I unlock it in seconds again starts warming up... My friend using same 4g in moto g4plus but his screen is cooler than mine... Please my one last doubt...
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Install a custom ROM and kernel and limit your background tasks. You may just have a bunch of things running using your CPU.
Thank you all!
Hey all thank you guys very much for replying to my thread! i'm really feeling okay instead of getting paranoid with my phone.. although i'd be very happy if you guys just clear me this last doubt!
today I was playing NOVA 3 connected to wifi in an ambient temperature of 25C, 5-10mins into gaming, CPU reaCHED A MAX OF 41c and at around 20 it maintaining at 43 but jumping sometimes 45.. this is gaming, but i get the same temperature just browsing in knda same ambient temp while I'm travelling. and also browsing in wifi/4g(fb,insta,chrome) in my house in ambient 25-27 gets the phone phone to 35-37... and the rest of the pat of the mobile is cool, even the back side is normal, only the small portion between the earpiece..
why is this happening? is this normal(it'd be great if you guys clear this)? if yup y so? and why phones like oneplus x and moto g4 etc have relatively less temp than OP3..
I know it'd be irritating to answer kinda same question again, but this would my help paranoiac freaking out for my mobile will go down..
thanks in advance for your replies
msvr3 said:
Hey all thank you guys very much for replying to my thread! i'm really feeling okay instead of getting paranoid with my phone.. although i'd be very happy if you guys just clear me this last doubt!
today I was playing NOVA 3 connected to wifi in an ambient temperature of 25C, 5-10mins into gaming, CPU reaCHED A MAX OF 41c and at around 20 it maintaining at 43 but jumping sometimes 45.. this is gaming, but i get the same temperature just browsing in knda same ambient temp while I'm travelling. and also browsing in wifi/4g(fb,insta,chrome) in my house in ambient 25-27 gets the phone phone to 35-37... and the rest of the pat of the mobile is cool, even the back side is normal, only the small portion between the earpiece..
why is this happening? is this normal(it'd be great if you guys clear this)? if yup y so? and why phones like oneplus x and moto g4 etc have relatively less temp than OP3..
I know it'd be irritating to answer kinda same question again, but this would my help paranoiac freaking out for my mobile will go down..
thanks in advance for your replies
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Because the Oneplus 3 is a lot faster, the Temps you are giving are n even close to hot... This has been one of the cooler phones so far.
Like others said, those temps are completely normal. Hell, I'd even expect them to be higher with your fairly high ambient temps.
About comparison with other phones - it all depends on internals and design. OP3 is made of aluminum so it'll dissipate more heat into the case - you'll feel it better. Other mentioned phones are plastic, so they'll contain more heat inside (you'll not feel so much heat, but the cpu may even run hotter).
And OP3 has cpu located just below the camera, so it's normal that it reaches top temps in that upper center part of the device.
P.S.: You talked about loads and ambient temps, but didn't mention screen brightness - that also plays a massive role in running temperatures.
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Explorer23 said:
Like others said, those temps are completely normal. Hell, I'd even expect them to be higher with your fairly high ambient temps.
About comparison with other phones - it all depends on internals and design. OP3 is made of aluminum so it'll dissipate more heat into the case - you'll feel it better. Other mentioned phones are plastic, so they'll contain more heat inside (you'll not feel so much heat, but the cpu may even run hotter).
And OP3 has cpu located just below the camera, so it's normal that it reaches top temps in that upper center part of the device.
P.S.: You talked about loads and ambient temps, but didn't mention screen brightness - that also plays a massive role in running temperatures.
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for me mostly brightness bar will be in the middle... i never use it with high brightness..
Just get a case and maybe a screen protector so that you can't feel it getting hot.
crzykiller said:
Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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hey ya !! sorry to disturb you again and again.. just a urios doubt.. what'd be the temperature of the phone or how hot can it gets, when u use 4g and fb app in ambient temperature of 29C and 33C..
mine got arounf 38-41 for the 1st cse and around 43 for the second case..
I know i'm being paranoid, ,but please, clearing tis would help stop worrying a bit
All the temps you posted are normal
About Moto g, it has much weaker SoC. A Ferrari's engine gets much more hotter than a toy car. Doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Ferrari
4G /3G active usage can get hotter than gaming. That's also normal
msvr3 said:
hey ya !! sorry to disturb you again and again.. just a urios doubt.. what'd be the temperature of the phone or how hot can it gets, when u use 4g and fb app in ambient temperature of 29C and 33C..
mine got arounf 38-41 for the 1st cse and around 43 for the second case..
I know i'm being paranoid, ,but please, clearing tis would help stop worrying a bit
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Nothing much to worry here. Even I use Jio all the time. My OP3 get a lot hotter than any other device I use before. Reasons I knew are these.
1. OP3 rock with a high end processor. Say SD 820. Other phones you mentioned are consisting of relatively lower end processor. So internally they might heat up more that OP3 while doing high processor intensive tasks, but the plastic casing keep the heat inside, as OP3 is made up of Aluminum that being a metal heats up so quickly and and u feel more hotter in hands than the other ones and also it cools faster.
2. AFAIK the processor is situated just below the Camera bump. Hence it heats up very quickly at that area. Irrespective of outside temperature.
3.While using 4G network it's obvious that the phonehave to communicate with the network at a very high rate than 2G or WiFi. So it's clear that it will heat up. Also using high processor intensive application like Facebook gives the processor high stress and it heats up in no time.
Remedies
1. Use a case. That somewhat helps in insulating the heat.
2.If possible use WiFi rather than 4G network. That will considerably helps your battery life.
Conclusion.
Don't worry about the warmth of the phone.Its normal. Just enjoy using the phone.
Never Settle.
Cheers.
Clearly never experienced a SD810 device. I'm sure Snapdragon took there name too seriously with that chipset. I could hit HIGH 80°c in seconds playing basic games, using the camera and under heavy usage. Had to tailer my use around my Z3+ but now I have the 3T I can do what I want and it never goes past 50°c so far.