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Stock vs custom: huge dilema.

I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.

stupidslow02gt said:
I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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try stock, try custom.. then let us know whats best for you. choice, my friend, is a wonderful thing

it wont hurt anything to try a custom rom, you can always go back to stock

Have you guys tried the Gummy ROM or lean kernel? Any tips to avoid any of the problems I mentioned such as shutter lag or UI lag?

I had this issue with the GNEX. I have kept it stock so far. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and made a few UI changes and a differnt kernal.
I'm happy with it for now. Who knows what future will hold.

did the stock thing (with a few root mods like battery, menu button, brightness) for a couple months, then loaded up AOKP + leankernel and love the customization and battery life
will not go back to stock

If your device does what you want it to RIGHT NOW, then stay stock. If there are features that you want and only a custom rom can provide, then try a ROM, but be aware that custom kernels and ROMS can break some functions on your phone.
I was using CM7 on my previous android phone and lost the ability to receive voicemail notifications because of it.
Decide if you need "more", but accept any risks that come up because of it.

I suggest you try out AOKP ROM for the additional features and GUI settings. I also use franco. kernel for superior battery life and a noticeable speed increase.
It's a fantastic combo.
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DaF1974 said:
I suggest you try out AOKP ROM for the additional features and GUI settings. I also use franco. kernel for superior battery life and a noticeable speed increase.
It's a fantastic combo.
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+1 for aokp + franco , they are awesome.

Excuse my noobyness but isnt AOKP just a stock untouched firmware? Or is that AOSP.
Just looked up the franco kernel and have read nothing but good things.

Nadroid - flash = see for yourself. I also recommend AOKP M3. And stock has bugs also. The only ROM that ever rebooted on me, was stock. So. Nothing is perfect that is why we like to change everything.

I'm using stock still, but rooted and using a modified status bar transparent. I plan to switch to custom but just taking my time. You can easily just nand backup your stock rom, flash custom for testing, then restore your stock backup if need be. There are lots of enhancements in the custom roms that is worthwhile.

I only got my Galaxy Nexus yesterday, however i think the stock rom is great to be honest.
There was always some problem with custom roms on the Desire.
If i was going to use a custom rom on my Galaxy Nexus i would wait for the stable release of CM9 or MIUI (if there ever is a stable one).
For now stock is fine for me personally, only thing i really miss is all the settings in the notification tray, but rooted stock is working perfect for me and its nice to have a perfectly working phone for once

well well.. flashing phones like samsung jet, omnia II, galaxy s, wave or htc touch diamond or sensation was my life..till i met the sony xperia s.. Now its too hard to decide what to do. Stay on stock or flash the new roms, kernels, mods..again and again. I am on stock now because of few lags..I hadnt expected. I am not gonna explain what was it but I wanna have fully function device on my own and that is why I made the decision to sty on stock. And of course I am still waiting for original upgrade. That is my opinion.

stupidslow02gt said:
I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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I know what you mean. I kept mine stock for months, which is longer than any other phone I've had. But I finally bit the bullet and went custom and I'm glad I did. You just gotta try for your self and see which you prefer.

frow86 said:
it wont hurt anything to try a custom rom, you can always go back to stock
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Laird_Attwood said:
I had this issue with the GNEX. I have kept it stock so far. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and made a few UI changes and a differnt kernal.
I'm happy with it for now. Who knows what future will hold.
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after doing whatever you want to your phone, if youre not going to flash anything, relock bootloader
stupidslow02gt said:
Excuse my noobyness but isnt AOKP just a stock untouched firmware? Or is that AOSP.
Just looked up the franco kernel and have read nothing but good things.
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A(ndroid)O(pen)S(ource)P(roject).
A(ndroid)O(pen)K(kang)P(project) is a custom rom by TeamKang, based on AOSP releases from Google.
Search tags: kang, aosp, source.android.com
@OP, i say just go with whatever you feel is working for you. If you feel stock is better, stick with it. I run my nexus bone stock (even with stock recovery, i use fastboot to boot cwm once, flash zip with a different font, just tired of roboto) from time to time, to get a grip of how things are going with official releases. I have no issues.
And there's no more Android OS bug. Use better battery stats (here in xda) to see whats causing wakelocks, which drains battery more than usual. If you have lte device you'll have considerably worse runtime on battery, if you on gsm then you'll get around 1d15h with 3h40 screen on with stock, when all is optimal. Lets face it, current battery technology blows.
Read a lot before flashing anything, till the point you are able to help others when they face issues without having really tested it yourself, to know possible advantages/disadvantages of x software/mod, if its user error, apps, or custom rom, or stock.
This is android as its supposed to be, some have even got bored of how easy it gets to play with this device.
sent from my i9250

sillverdj said:
well well.. flashing phones like samsung jet, omnia II, galaxy s, wave or htc touch diamond or sensation was my life..till i met the sony xperia s.. Now its too hard to decide what to do. Stay on stock or flash the new roms, kernels, mods..again and again. I am on stock now because of few lags..I hadnt expected. I am not gonna explain what was it but I wanna have fully function device on my own and that is why I made the decision to sty on stock. And of course I am still waiting for original upgrade. That is my opinion.
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Hey thanks for reviving a 3 month old thread to talk about your Sony phone in the nexus forum LOL
Also I would like to point out that I went AOKP then CM9 then LS all with the Franco kernel and wouldn't think about going back to stock. I would consider the phone unusable compared to what it is now lol

stupidslow02gt said:
Hey thanks for reviving a 3 month old thread to talk about your Sony phone in the nexus forum LOL
Also I would like to point out that I went AOKP then CM9 then LS all with the Franco kernel and wouldn't think about going back to stock. I would consider the phone unusable compared to what it is now lol
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Yea LiquidSmooth is what I'm running on. Very fast and loads of features while being easy on the battery.

Everyone claims their 'insert rom' is easier on battery, but with the exception of those who have actively coded something like AOKP's battery saver, or BAMF Paradigm's tasker support in their LTE widget, its a bunch of BS.
Someone please show me, aside from the above, source code for a rom that saves battery. I'll settle for a github commit.
Most battery savings will come from lack of bugs that cause resource leaks and wake locks, or kernels.
All these claims are ranking right up there with statements like "deodexed for performance" or "ribbed for her pleasure".

I did flash a rom early on (Apex I believe it was) and I forget the reasoning behind me going back to stock but I am completely happy with staying on stock (& rooted) yakju. I will probably go to a rom sometime again in the future but for now I am good.
The good thing about flashing stock is that it is so easy to do it with fastboot so at any time you arent happy with roms you can just go back to stock.

My custom ROM experience.

When I got my Galaxy Nexus, I was more than content never to install a custom ROM on it for two reasons:
1. It had no carrier or OEM bloatware on it. It was as close to the Google Experience™ as one could get.
2. My previous phone was a Samsung Captivate, and no ROM, custom or otherwise, worked very well on it.
Well, that lasted about a month. There was nothing at all wrong with running stock on the GNex. The battery life was incredible. It was super fast. The reception is not so great, but there's nothing a custom ROM could really do about that anyway. It was certainly running well enough.
But I can't leave well enough alone.
I wanted themes. I wanted to make the phone my own in ways that were not possible in the buttoned-down, odexed world of stock ROMs. So, after prudently making a Nandroid backup, I held my breath, and dove headlong into the world of customization. I picked a really obscure ROM at first. I won't say which one it is because I don't want to discourage their work. But, I got more force closes in the first hour of running that ROM than I did in the first month of stock. Since my GNex is my daily driver, that wasn't working for me, but I'm not bitter. A lot of these ROMs are a learning process for the developer as well as the user. I left a bit of well-intentioned feedback in the thread, and moved on to another lesser-known ROM. This one worked a lot better for me. It was very stable, and much to my surprise, the upgrade was entirely free of problems.
I should digress to describe briefly my experience with flashing ROMs on my previous phone, the Samsung Captivate. I originally upgraded because Froyo was delayed, and I didn't like the bloware that AT&T felt the need to add to my device. I don't know if the leaks were bad, or the hardware just wasn't all that great, but each reinstall took several hours to get my device up to where it needed to be, and each firmware had HUGE problems, including regular freezes, and sometimes entire system apps would disappear for no reason. It led me to consider custom ROMs to be a necessary evil, but one that could be avoided on the GNex due to it being a Google phone.
It's clear from my experience that either the hardware or the ROM development has extremely matured over two years. The installation was quick and bug-free. Even the "bad" ROM I started on managed to pick up most of my existing apps, and only took about 30 minutes to install. The "good" ROM was unlike anything I've ever seen before. Not only was the upgrade practically instantaneous, but it even downloaded all my apps from the previous install and started up TiBu to install the system data. I was back up to speed in < 30 minutes, a far cry from the seemingly interminable hours that it took on the Captivate. I've only been running the current ROM for about a day, but if it continues with this stability, I will be a happy camper.
Why did I bother to write this?
1. Some people may be on the fence about whether they should stick to stock or go custom. Having a firsthand account of how truly painless the experience was may help them make a more informed decision.
2. Kraken Rum.

Just run CM9. Simple.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

Any ROM that takes more than ~five minutes to install I abort. I'm not sure how or why you waited half an hour to install one. Also every rom since gingerbread has auto installed apps unless it was specifically disabled.
But, good thoughts.
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ROMs I tried on Captivate (with varying degrees of success):
ICSSGS
Mosaic
Pinnacle
Fasty
Sensation
Fusion
Cognition
Stock
Many of these I tried multiple versions.
Of those, none of them auto-installed apps. Most of them would be broken when I tried to restore with Tibu and I would have to do a complete SD card wipe to get an extra week of stability.
Point is, whatever awful experiences happened on other ROMs don't seem to apply to the GNex.

The reason roms just work on nexus phones is down to just 4 letters: AOSP.

Archpope said:
ROMs I tried on Captivate (with varying degrees of success):
ICSSGS
Mosaic
Pinnacle
Fasty
Sensation
Fusion
Cognition
Stock
Many of these I tried multiple versions.
Of those, none of them auto-installed apps. Most of them would be broken when I tried to restore with Tibu and I would have to do a complete SD card wipe to get an extra week of stability.
Point is, whatever awful experiences happened on other ROMs don't seem to apply to the GNex.
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I tried some and loved them especially serendipity I loved that rom
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Archpope said:
2. Kraken Rum.
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THIS. YES.

Well this should be persuasive enough for others
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Archpope said:
ROMs I tried on Captivate (with varying degrees of success):
ICSSGS
Mosaic
Pinnacle
Fasty
Sensation
Fusion
Cognition
Stock
Many of these I tried multiple versions.
Of those, none of them auto-installed apps. Most of them would be broken when I tried to restore with Tibu and I would have to do a complete SD card wipe to get an extra week of stability.
Point is, whatever awful experiences happened on other ROMs don't seem to apply to the GNex.
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Like I said, it could be auto-disabled. My Thunderbolt autoinstalled apps when I first got it, and my Nexus tries to do the same.
Also, if you are restoring SYSTEM DATA through Titanium Backup, you're doing it all wrong.

ShredEight02 said:
THIS. YES.
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I love the kraken. This thread is for people with great taste in phones and booze lol.

joshnichols189 said:
Any ROM that takes more than ~five minutes to install I abort. I'm not sure how or why you waited half an hour to install one. Also every rom since gingerbread has auto installed apps unless it was specifically disabled.
But, good thoughts.
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I have never installed a rom that took 5mminute to install, or flash atleast. However, it did took me 3 hours on my first HTC device to unlock bootloader, downgrade HBoot, S-off, root, cwm and all that. For the nexus it took me the time to type: fastboot oem unlock.

eksasol said:
I have never installed a rom that took 5mminute to install, or flash atleast. However, it did took me 3 hours on my first HTC device to unlock bootloader, downgrade HBoot, S-off, root, cwm and all that. For the nexus it took me the time to type: fastboot oem unlock.
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Five minutes is a lot, but I didn't think it was too much. Usually if it isn't done in after a minute or two I pull the battery.

nodstuff said:
The reason roms just work on nexus phones is down to just 4 letters: AOSP.
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+1 on AOSP
...but you know what, I have tried pretty much every ROM out there and to be honest I find myself always coming back to stock, stock but Rooted and with a custom kernel. At the moment I am running Trinity (literally my first day) and I'm very impressed. This is a stock Galaxy Nexus enhanced; better battery life, faster and with the Trinity's colour settings it even looks better.
There are just so many different ways to customise Android that it'll leave us all playing and experimenting forever.
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I should clarify. The part of "installing a ROM" that took place within CWM never took more than 2 minutes. It was all the setup after that which took all the time. I learned very early on not to use TiBu to restore system apps. Even with that, it just never worked properly. Some apps would FC like crazy and have to be reinstalled and setup manually anyway. Some apps would just be gone with no explanation. So, I quit using it. That meant reinstalling each and every app and setting them up the way they were. Reinstalling whichever launcher I was using and putting all the icons and widgets back in place. This rarely took less than two hours, and never less than one. The reason I did this so much is that after two weeks, three at the most, the Captivate would start freezing randomly, for do discernible reason, no matter how little I had installed on it. Until I got to ICSSGS. That was the only stable ROM out of more than a dozen in two years. But by then, I was tired of the treadmill and sold it.
I'll see if the GNex starts freezing. Even if it does, I can restore my Nandroid back to stock and be happy.

Why Root the Note 2

I have had several android phones that i have rooted in the past and i can be classified as a flash-a-holic, I love messing with my phone.
With that stated it seems that rooting an flashing new roms is also a headache. I have not found a rom with my evo or s2 that does not have bugs and problems.
So my question is - what are the good reasons to root my Note 2. I feel that if i root and flash it is an never ending process to find the perfect rom that does not exist.
The Note to is wonderful as is - battery is great.
I HATE the puke green battery icon and love what others can do with the setup that i cannot. But its not worth it if the roms have bugs.
I do not like the bloat on the phone and would love to get rid of it but is it worth it?
I would love to see some compelling reasons to root this phone.
Thanks for your input in advance.

I rooted my note for two reasons: I am able to use external ntsf hdd ( now I use ssd without the need to use external power) AND the second reason was to increase audio output volume. I use samsung stock firmware. I am verry pleased.
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The main reason I have mine rooted is the hotspot hack. I have a stock Rom but rooted. That's it. I used to be a flash aholic but I found it tiring to reset my phone every time. I don't want to run the risk of missing something important. I do love to theme though. Just depends on what you want to do.
Rockin' the Sprint Note 2

salukis93 said:
I have had several android phones that i have rooted in the past and i can be classified as a flash-a-holic, I love messing with my phone.
With that stated it seems that rooting an flashing new roms is also a headache. I have not found a rom with my evo or s2 that does not have bugs and problems.
So my question is - what are the good reasons to root my Note 2. I feel that if i root and flash it is an never ending process to find the perfect rom that does not exist.
The Note to is wonderful as is - battery is great.
I HATE the puke green battery icon and love what others can do with the setup that i cannot. But its not worth it if the roms have bugs.
I do not like the bloat on the phone and would love to get rid of it but is it worth it?
I would love to see some compelling reasons to root this phone.
Thanks for your input in advance.
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you don't need to root your phone if you don't have a reason to. don't force it.
personally, i wholly intended to stay pure stock...but then that exynos exploit thing surfaced.
a) it made rooting ridiculously easy
b) it made the phone ridiculously vulnerable.
so i decided to use the patch, but since i'm already there, i just rooted. i have no intentions of flashing custom roms either, though that may change later as roms mature and gain s-pen related applications.
also, titanium backup. i needed to import my game saves.
i'm still in my as-stock-as-possible mood, so I'm still using stock recovery. no nandroids backups sadly, but considering i don't mess with the phone all that much, i don't think i'll need it. TI backup is good enough.

I'm stock rooted for free tether, directory bind, titanium backup, and other tweaks that pop up that I may like as time goes on. It's really easy to do with the toolkit so I figured why not. Intend to stay stock for now, this thing is so amazing already. I got MOGA for Christmas as well as some play store money so I have lots of games and the 11gb available storage is no where near enough without app2sd or the directory bind solution. Could hold 2 maybe 3 big games before now have probably 10-12.
Swyped On My Beast Note II

Blocking ads..my number 1 reason to root.
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mulhiny said:
Blocking ads..my number 1 reason to root.
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I agree. Mine too. Reason number 1 why I did it was because I wanted the "multi-view mod" love watching a movie and texting people at the sammw time its awesome
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Wifi tether, remove bloatware, and having no limitations to what mods/apps I can use. Plus, just because you root your phone doesn't mean that you have to flash a custom rom.

ad blocking and titanium backup.

jon-.- said:
Wifi tether, remove bloatware, and having no limitations to what mods/apps I can use. Plus, just because you root your phone doesn't mean that you have to flash a custom rom.
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Yep. Other than the bloat, the stock ROM is better than some custom ROMs. I say root (for the options) and run the debloater. When I first picked up this phone I thought about keeping it unrooted. Naturally though I was rooted an hour later.

Like some people, I used to install different roms but now I just root to get hotspot feature and some apps that require root. But I stay with stock.
Sent from my Amazing Galaxy Note 2!

adamantypants said:
Yep. Other than the bloat, the stock ROM is better than some custom ROMs. I say root (for the options) and run the debloater. When I first picked up this phone I thought about keeping it unrooted. Naturally though I was rooted an hour later.
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Do you happen to have a link handy for the debloater?
Sent from my big big BIG iphone killer.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997346
I actually haven't used it myself. I'm running a custom rom XP

adamantypants said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997346
I actually haven't used it myself. I'm running a custom rom XP
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Thanks! Although i dont have cwm or twrp on my phone : /
Sent from my big big BIG iphone killer.

I started rooting when I had the SG2, and continued when I had the S3. I found myself continuously changing roms, looking for something better, and then ended up missing out on the stock things (like samsungs custom stuff).
I told myself I wouldn't root my Note 2, but the final straw was broken when I was when I stayed at an expensive hotel that wanted $7 an hour for the wifi. I needed the hotspot hack.
I'm on stock rooted, but I guess you can say the main reasons I am rooted are:
Hotspot hack
Google wallet (even though it hasn't worked for me once yet)
I don't mind the bloat nor the ads. I don't download shady apps from Google Play so I don't have advertisement notifications. As for the bloat, some of it is useful and I like it.

My number one reason to ROOT is to control the processors. You think battery life is great, wait till you reduce some of the processing power. I have mine MAX at 1GHz, and it never misses a beat! I'm sure it's due to the quad core and 2GB of RAM that makes it feel just as fast as if i had left it at the stock settings (1.6GHz).
And I am a flash-a-holic, but I like it...makes me feel like I got a new phone every week! hahaha

I haven't rooted mine for the sole reason that its too much of a headache to me with previous phones. Too often I lost messaging and internet and I personally don't have the money to buy a new phone if i break it. It's a personal decision you have to make where the good outweighs the potential bad

I root for the themes!
Its nice to be able to switch it up once and a while.
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islandjat said:
I haven't rooted mine for the sole reason that its too much of a headache to me with previous phones. Too often I lost messaging and internet and I personally don't have the money to buy a new phone if i break it. It's a personal decision you have to make where the good outweighs the potential bad
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Easy one clicks root is the easiest way to go.
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Overclock.
Get the most out of the new processor.
Sent from a potato.

Please help with Battery/Kernel

Hello, this is my first post but I have read this site for many years. If this post goes in a different section please move it, Im sorry. So a little backround first. My phone is currently running 4.2.1 with the JellyBam Rom. I rooted my phone basically the very first day I got it and the battery has been terrible. I get about 12 hours if I am lucky and thats with only an hour or an hour and a half of screen time. I have done all the basic tricks with screen brightness and sync is off and still no improvement. I have been on numerous roms and it has always been bad. So I have been reading that the kernel can affect battery life but to be honest this whole kernel thing confuses me. All i know is that I can not be on a JB kernel because i am on 4.2.1.
This is what my phone says now:
Android Version : 4.2.1
Baseband: S710.10 S.FI27
Kernel Version [email protected]#7
JellyBam Version jellybam-4.2.1_d710_v5.3.0-STABLE_20130207
Build Number d710-userdebug 4.2.1 JOP40D
eng.ken.20130207.010412 test-
I also have CWM recovery if this means anything regarding kernels. and would like to stay with it if I can
So my question is if I want to try a different kenel which should i try? And do you think it would help with battery? And how do I change it, is there a good video showing the steps? Is it flashed like a ROM?
Please help THANK YOU!!!!

Welcome, without JB kernel source yet we have to use what our devs made to work. The simple answer is that the kernel you have is your only option at the moment.
I have never tried that rom but battery life on AOSP roms is less than normal. Its a trade off of having the latest and greatest.

someguyatx said:
Welcome, without JB kernel source yet we have to use what our devs made to work. The simple answer is that the kernel you have is your only option at the moment.
I have never tried that rom but battery life on AOSP roms is less than normal. Its a trade off of having the latest and greatest.
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Ok so flashing another GB or ICS kernel will not do anything really? Does my battery life sound about normal then for running 4.2.1? Like i said I get 12 hours if im lucky....with just moderate use im looking at 8-10 hours.

jbarresi19 said:
Ok so flashing another GB or ICS kernel will not do anything really? Does my battery life sound about normal then for running 4.2.1? Like i said I get 12 hours if im lucky....with just moderate use im looking at 8-10 hours.
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That's about normal for any phone with a removable battery... Buy another one and an external charger and take advantage of the fact that you have a removable battery, if you carry a fully charged backup you're good for the day no matter what, even with heavy use... I don't know why nobody else does this. I used to have three for my Shift. I wanna know what phone you guys are coming from that that is bad battery life, especially with a screen this big... I swear about a quarter of the posts on this forum are about battery life, it's kinda ridiculous.

jbarresi19 said:
Ok so flashing another GB or ICS kernel will not do anything really? Does my battery life sound about normal then for running 4.2.1? Like i said I get 12 hours if im lucky....with just moderate use im looking at 8-10 hours.
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Wont work with a GB or ICS kernel. Yeah that battery life sounds about right, price you pay for the latest and greatest. As mentioned grab an external charger and spare batteries. I keep a spare with me and just swap and go worry free. I got some EzoPower brand batteries on Amazon a few weeks ago and so far so good. Paid under $15 for 3 batteries and charger.
Several weeks ago I switched to GA10 and my battery life is great. That is another option if you have not tried it yet its not bad.

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Wont work with a GB or ICS kernel. Yeah that battery life sounds about right, price you pay for the latest and greatest. As mentioned grab an external charger and spare batteries. I keep a spare with me and just swap and go worry free. I got some EzoPower brand batteries on Amazon a few weeks ago and so far so good. Paid under $15 for 3 batteries and charger.
Several weeks ago I switched to GA10 and my battery life is great. That is another option if you have not tried it yet its not bad.
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Thanks for the reply....I have 2 questions...first i have a battery for the origanl galaxy S and it fits the S2 do you think it would be an issue using it in the S2? And what is GA10 is that a jelly bean kernel? Where do i get it? My rom istrustions state I can not use a jelly bean kernel thats why i ask.

jbarresi19 said:
Thanks for the reply....I have 2 questions...first i have a battery for the origanl galaxy S and it fits the S2 do you think it would be an issue using it in the S2? And what is GA10 is that a jelly bean kernel? Where do i get it? My rom istrustions state I can not use a jelly bean kernel thats why i ask.
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It's the latest Touchwiz JB leak, there are several ROMs out there using it

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It's the latest Touchwiz JB leak, there are several ROMs out there using it
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Ok so i guess for right now if I stick with JellyBam Rom I can not use it. It states specifically not to use a JB kernel. Does anyone know if using a battery from the original galaxy in the S2 is ok? it does fit.
PS. I have been messing around with underclocking and voltage and I have seen some great improvements in battery. I clocked the CPU down to MAX 800 and MIN 200 for during the day and from 3am-8am I brought it down even more to MAX 500 MIN 200 and as of right now i have 41% battery left and i have 13 hours and 44 minutes with a screen time of 1 hour.
Can underclocking it that much hurt the CPU/phone?

Part of your problem is the build your on, 4.2.1 is an unofficial build, so you're dealing with a buggy system, if your battery is old and worn your going to have all kinds of issues.
The original S battery has less miliamps than the epic touch battery, 1600 mha vs 1800 mha, it's like using a partially charged battery. You need a new battery.
Under clocking and voltage is the wrong way to go, if you need to run at those numbers you may as well just get a flip phone because that's how retarded your epic will be trying to run it this way.
I suggest a new battery and some stock/rooted Jb. I'm on stock/rooted Ga10, no mods no tweaks and regularly get 16 to 20+ hrs in between chargings . And everything works.
Pp.:beer::thumbup:
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.

Ga10. Jb style.
Pp.
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.

PanchoPlanet said:
Part of your problem is the build your on, 4.2.1 is an unofficial build, so you're dealing with a buggy system, if your battery is old and worn your going to have all kinds of issues.
The original S battery has less miliamps than the epic touch battery, 1600 mha vs 1800 mha, it's like using a partially charged battery. You need a new battery.
Under clocking and voltage is the wrong way to go, if you need to run at those numbers you may as well just get a flip phone because that's how retarded your epic will be trying to run it this way.
I suggest a new battery and some stock/rooted Jb. I'm on stock/rooted Ga10, no mods no tweaks and regularly get 16 to 20+ hrs in between chargings . And everything works.
Pp.:beer::thumbup:
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.
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I have to say running my epic at max 800 CPU I see no real noticeable difference in performance. almost none at all.
Can you please tell me how I would go about getting on stock rooted JB with GA10. Is there a post I can read or can u explain? and remember I am a noob.

jbarresi19 said:
I have to say running my epic at max 800 CPU I see no real noticeable difference in performance. almost none at all.
Can you please tell me how I would go about getting on stock rooted JB with GA10. Is there a post I can read or can u explain? and remember I am a noob.
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Any of the touch wiz jelly bean threads in android development. Posting rules are more strict in development threads, be aware.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app

The one click GA10 thread is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36801656
Make sure you backup your sd card internal and external storage before flashing.

Someguyatx has the link you need its simple to use, make copies of your internal/external sd's on you're pc and use the "rooted restore" option. Do not use "keep your data" option, you could have a problem migrate to the new Rom by keeping your data. Its better if you start fresh from scratch.
Pp.
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.

someguyatx said:
The one click GA10 thread is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36801656
Make sure you backup your sd card internal and external storage before flashing.
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Awesome thanks for the link....one question is this 4.2.1 or 4.1?
I am not going to try this right now but i know when i do i will have a few questions....im a lil confused by directions.....but when i attepmt it i will make sure to post in correct place...thanks again

jbarresi19 said:
Awesome thanks for the link....one question is this 4.2.1 or 4.1?
I am not going to try this right now but i know when i do i will have a few questions....im a lil confused by directions.....but when i attepmt it i will make sure to post in correct place...thanks again
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This is 4.1 and very stable, and there is a discussion thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36727889
Check it out before and after you One click to Ga10.
Pp.
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.

jbarresi19 said:
Awesome thanks for the link....one question is this 4.2.1 or 4.1?
I am not going to try this right now but i know when i do i will have a few questions....im a lil confused by directions.....but when i attepmt it i will make sure to post in correct place...thanks again
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Well while the ball is rolling midas well ask. Basically back up anything you don't want to lose. Have Samsung drivers installed.. Download the stock rooted 1 click he posted. Open one click. Put phone in download mode/odin mode, get com port and hit start. It puts phone in new state which is good. The other way is to download sextapes stock tar and odin 1.85 or 3.04. Flash stock by the same way but checking PDA and finding the file.
Ga10 is 4.1.2. It is a Samsung built rom. So it is 110% built for this device. I know many steer away from stock roms. I used to be that way, but ga10 is slick!. Its fast, smooth, no lag, gps reliable, data speeds (for me) kick ass. Battery life is bad a** too. I put in fresh battery in before bed last night and when I picked up phone 8 hours later it still said 100% Flash it and you will be a happy camper I guarantee it. The screenshot i have below is after hours of Tiger woods 2012, web browsing. gps ect. HEAVY use. Still has 34% I still be using this charge well into tomorrow. (extended battery). Still stock battery gets 3+ hours screen time-extended gets me 7+. Good rom. Thanks sxtp
To fix battery issue check below.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-3800mAh-...324687?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cce12030f
http://www.amazon.com/Trexcell-Sams...657571&sr=8-1&keywords=trexcell+epic+4g+touch

+1 for Miketucky. :thumbup:
He speaks the truth.
Pp.
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.

miketucky350 said:
Well while the ball is rolling midas well ask. Basically back up anything you don't want to lose. Have Samsung drivers installed.. Download the stock rooted 1 click he posted. Open one click. Put phone in download mode/odin mode, get com port and hit start. It puts phone in new state which is good. The other way is to download sextapes stock tar and odin 1.85 or 3.04. Flash stock by the same way but checking PDA and finding the file.
Ga10 is 4.1.2. It is a Samsung built rom. So it is 110% built for this device. I know many steer away from stock roms. I used to be that way, but ga10 is slick!. Its fast, smooth, no lag, gps reliable, data speeds (for me) kick ass. Battery life is bad a** too. I put in fresh battery in before bed last night and when I picked up phone 8 hours later it still said 100% Flash it and you will be a happy camper I guarantee it. The screenshot i have below is after hours of Tiger woods 2012, web browsing. gps ect. HEAVY use. Still has 34% I still be using this charge well into tomorrow. (extended battery). Still stock battery gets 3+ hours screen time-extended gets me 7+. Good rom. Thanks sxtp
To fix battery issue check below.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-3800mAh-...324687?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cce12030f
http://www.amazon.com/Trexcell-Sams...657571&sr=8-1&keywords=trexcell+epic+4g+touch
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You guys are the best...kicking myself for taking this long to get involved on this site. you guys/gals are very helpful....i understand your directions the pasrt that was confusing me was this:
Mac/Linux - Install 7-zip, then use it to unpack the individual ODIN components in Reference Section B (below). If Heimdall fails flashing all 3 files together, try doing them individually. Skip the remaining instructions that are windows specific (steps 3, 4, 6).
Android - Install ZArchiver, then use it to unpack the ODIN OneClick 7zip self-extractor file in this section (long press *-oc-sfx.exe, Open as archive, Odin-OC, select *-OneClick.exe, Extract). Use Mobile ODIN to Open File the resulting *-OneClick.exe file. Mobile ODIN issue - modem might not flash consistently. Skip the remaining instructions that are windows ODIN specific (steps 3, 4, 5, 6).
But i guess if i am using Windows and the One Click this does not pertain to me. Am i correct?
PS The only thing i think i will miss from 4.2.1 is the lockscreen widgets, i kinda liked how you could have a widget per page. And if i go to GA10 and say I want to go back to a custom ROM do i just flash it as normal? Will I still have CWM recovery?

One click on the pc is as simple as it gets. Linux, Mac, hiemdall none of this applies to you right now.
To go to a custom Rom you can follow a guide in development, there are several, for now it involves going back to Gb with a safe recovery.
Once you run this your not going to miss the custom roms with all the bugs they have. On this lock screen you can have up to 4 short cuts, just like having widgets without bugs.
Enjoy.
Pp.:beer:
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.

[Q] ROMs that enhance battery performance?

I recently bought a used Sprint Galaxy S3, it is the SPH-L710 model.
It works great, I like it, I got it rooted with no problem, and got CWM flashed to it and I'm getting ready to flash a ROM.
I've been searching forums and sites for about 2 days for the ROM I want to use.
I'm mainly looking for something that enhances my battery performance, the reason for this is when I first got the phone, I updated it to the 4.4.2 KitKat when I first turned the phone on and the battery life was terrible, like I would charge it to 100% and use it browsing the web for about 10 mins and lose sometimes upwards of 10+% within that 10 minutes.
I searched around and found 2 Apps that I am using right now, one is a battery doctor type thing, the other is an app called Battery Saver (root) it changes some stuff and is supposed to make battery life better, since I have started using these 2 apps my battery life has increased, but it still seems to drain a little fast. So I would like to try and find a ROM that perhaps has tweaked the battery life.
Does anyone have any opinions on battery life for any of the ROMs here that would work for my device, like perhaps which one that you have tried that extended your battery life? I know I could just try them myself, but I am hoping to save a bit of time and see if anyone has some input.
Also another quick question, is there a way to test my battery and see if its just bad? A friend mentioned that the battery could have just gone bad so I'd like to check that if possible.

A. S3s aren't known for their amazing battery life. My battery does not go very far either, talking on the phone, which I do a lot for work, gobbles up the battery immensely. (Like 100% to 80% in 30 minutes.) Web browsing is another battery hog.
B. ROMs are only going to do so much as far as extending your battery life. Just bear in mind -- the lighter the ROM, the less battery it'll likely consume.
You'll do more to save battery by flashing a custom kernel on top of a light ROM that'll allow you undervolt/underclock. But, you want to make sure you flash the correct kernel to the correct ROM base (e.g. Touchwiz kernel for Touchwiz ROMs, AOSP/CM based kernels for AOSP/CM based ROMs).
I personally use the DKP kernel found here in the S3 original development thread.
Be careful w/ underclocking and especially undervolting, as this can cause the phone to freeze up. It's also important to choose a governor that has a nice balance between performance and power savings. (I like the freelunch governor.)
Hope this helps.

Higgs_Boson said:
A. S3s aren't known for their amazing battery life. My battery does not go very far either, talking on the phone, which I do a lot for work, gobbles up the battery immensely. (Like 100% to 80% in 30 minutes.) Web browsing is another battery hog.
B. ROMs are only going to do so much as far as extending your battery life. Just bear in mind -- the lighter the ROM, the less battery it'll likely consume.
You'll do more to save battery by flashing a custom kernel on top of a light ROM that'll allow you undervolt/underclock. But, you want to make sure you flash the correct kernel to the correct ROM base (e.g. Touchwiz kernel for Touchwiz ROMs, AOSP/CM based kernels for AOSP/CM based ROMs).
I personally use the DKP kernel found here in the S3 original development thread.
Be careful w/ underclocking and especially undervolting, as this can cause the phone to freeze up. It's also important to choose a governor that has a nice balance between performance and power savings. (I like the freelunch governor.)
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
That gives me an idea of what I should start looking for, and I'll check out the DKP kernel as well..
I just thought of another question I had, maybe you can help me with it too.
Since I'm running Android 4.4.2 on my device, would I need to find a 4.4.2 ROM to flash?
For instance could I use a 4.3.1 ROM on my 4.4.2 device?

vagabond007 said:
Thanks!
That gives me an idea of what I should start looking for, and I'll check out the DKP kernel as well..
I just thought of another question I had, maybe you can help me with it too.
Since I'm running Android 4.4.2 on my device, would I need to find a 4.4.2 ROM to flash?
For instance could I use a 4.3.1 ROM on my 4.4.2 device?
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It doesn't matter which Android version you decide to go with. Just avoid two things:
1. Do not flash an older bootloader than the one you are currently on (e.g. If you are currently on ND8, do not flash any older bootloaders like MK5 or MD4).
2. Do not flash any modems older than the one you're currently on. Your modem version can be found in Settings -->About Phone --> and the last three letter/number combination under "Baseband Version". Hint: The baseband version also tells you which bootloader/ROM you're on.
Doing either of these, will trip Samsung's KNOX security feature, tripping the kill-fuse, and suddenly, you'll have yourself a nice hard brick.
I know that probably sounds intimidating, but I assure you if you avoid those two things, you can flash any D2LTE ROM you please. (D2LTE ROMs will work with the Sprint S3.)

idk man the batter life of my S3 lasts 2 days where my Infuse 4g would last less then one with a new battery.....so by far the best battery life I've had in a while

Higgs_Boson said:
It doesn't matter which Android version you decide to go with. Just avoid two things:
1. Do not flash an older bootloader than the one you are currently on (e.g. If you are currently on ND8, do not flash any older bootloaders like MK5 or MD4).
2. Do not flash any modems older than the one you're currently on. Your modem version can be found in Settings -->About Phone --> and the last three letter/number combination under "Baseband Version". Hint: The baseband version also tells you which bootloader/ROM you're on.
Doing either of these, will trip Samsung's KNOX security feature, tripping the kill-fuse, and suddenly, you'll have yourself a nice hard brick.
I know that probably sounds intimidating, but I assure you if you avoid those two things, you can flash any D2LTE ROM you please. (D2LTE ROMs will work with the Sprint S3.)
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Wew! Thanks for that info, you may have saved me from a terrible mistake lol.
One of the ROMs I was looking at was using the MD4 bootloader, so that would have been a no-no xD
Thanks a lot for all your help, I learned a few things from it, epspecially about the bootloaders and modems having to match, I had no idea about that. Now that I know that, it opens up a few more possibilities for ROMs I can use!

vagabond007 said:
Wew! Thanks for that info, you may have saved me from a terrible mistake lol.
One of the ROMs I was looking at was using the MD4 bootloader, so that would have been a no-no xD
Thanks a lot for all your help, I learned a few things from it, epspecially about the bootloaders and modems having to match, I had no idea about that. Now that I know that, it opens up a few more possibilities for ROMs I can use!
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Fun fact: The bootloaders and modems didn't always have to match.
Samsung wanted to be able to market their devices to business entities, and in order to do that, they developed the KNOX security feature.
Once it's on your phone, it's not coming off. It matters to corporate security policy people, because they want devices that aren't going to be compromised if someone tampers with them.
And, as you can see, the wrong kind of tampering makes the phone completely unusable and unrecoverable.

Higgs_Boson said:
Fun fact: The bootloaders and modems didn't always have to match.
Samsung wanted to be able to market their devices to business entities, and in order to do that, they developed the KNOX security feature.
Once it's on your phone, it's not coming off. It matters to corporate security policy people, because they want devices that aren't going to be compromised if someone tampers with them.
And, as you can see, the wrong kind of tampering makes the phone completely unusable and unrecoverable.
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Right now I'm sort of leaning towards LiquidSmooth, Quantam4, or Tribute ROM, still sort of looking around though.
If you don't mind me asking @Higgs_Boson, which ROM are you using?
Also, to the other poster, my mothers GS3 is the same way, hers will last upwards of a day and a half, then again she doesn;t use hers for much, while I'm on mine like a computer lol.

vagabond007 said:
Right now I'm sort of leaning towards LiquidSmooth, Quantam4, or Tribute ROM, still sort of looking around though.
If you don't mind me asking @Higgs_Boson, which ROM are you using?
Also, to the other poster, my mothers GS3 is the same way, hers will last upwards of a day and a half, then again she doesn;t use hers for much, while I'm on mine like a computer lol.
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Right now, I'm on CM11.
I usually switch between two that are my favorites:
CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android.
If you want an all-in-one, there is always PAC-ROM, which includes Paranoid Android, AOKP, and CM all under the same roof. (But then, we get back to that thing about light ROMs.)

issmal out
Higgs_Boson said:
Right now, I'm on CM11.
I usually switch between two that are my favorites:
CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android.
If you want an all-in-one, there is always PAC-ROM, which includes Paranoid Android, AOKP, and CM all under the same roof. (But then, we get back to that thing about light ROMs.)
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I completely overlooked CM
Is CM11 compatible with the DKP Kernel you were telling me about?

yep
Yes it is. I'm that combo at the moment

im currently running wicked X 8.0

6th_Hokage said:
im currently running wicked X 8.0
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I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?

jbnorton0524 said:
I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?
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personally yes after i replace the system UI with the Stock ND8/NDC one and same with the TW Framework and TWframework-res.apk and use the Stockish theme for it.....i like the stock look what can i say but im using xposed at the same time for little things here and there but if you don't want to replace somethings and want it to work 100% use the PCB theme that it comes with.......but either way its pretty smooth and fast and the battery lasts for 2 days with some gaming and listening to music with viper4android installed and making calls and texting the one thing that i would say drains my battery is watching videos but you'll be satisfied

Wow you arent joking. This is one of the best ive seen lately. Nice.

jbnorton0524 said:
I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?
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Wicked X, Tribute and Conquest Singularity are all 3 very good ROMs with pretty fair battery life. As stated, Kernal Settings do make a world of difference! I'm on Singularity with latest KT747 Kernal and love it :]

Cm 11 or paranoid