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Hi... I have an Xplay rooted on 2.3.4 and removed light bloatware, but still my battery drains fast...
I must charge phone every day and I dont use a lot of heavy gamming... I only play in bed at night and normaly to drain the rest of the battery before charging.
I almost never use 3G, but have always wifi turned on...
So, resuming, my battery only lasts about 12h-14h per day...
As you can see, in the attachemt I have 2 times the same thing (portuguese language, but will translate):
- Inactividade do telefone 28% (Inactivity off phone)*
- Wi-Fi 21%
- Telefone inactivo 15% (Phone inactivity)*
* This 2 things arent the same?
I have a few questions:
1º - I have read about people who can have phone about 2 or 3 days, others with 20h or more. What is the most accurate and normal on this phone?
2º - If wi-fi always turned on, will drain battery?
3º - Why most off % is used when phone is inactivity?
Sometimes the phone dont loose battery when "sleeping" (it take 2h to loose 1%), but other times, when sleeping, battery drains 10% or more in one hour. I have read about a bug in Android OS that drains battery when phone sleeping. Does this bug applys in ALL ANDROID phones, or only Samsung? Read it on here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
If I charge phone every day will get battery "addicted"?
One thing im shure: the 3 first itens on the screenshots are draining my battery whitout a reason (i can understand wi-fi, but can't understand why 2 things saying phone inactivity, uses 43% of battery)
In that screenshot, battery is on 60%, so I losted 40% in 6hours with 20 minutes of gaming... and on those 6 hours, almost half, phone was "sleeping", again, it shouldnt drain battery when sleeping.
Thanks in advance for your help
What's shown as draining your battery the most is your phone's cell standby (your 3G & 2G network, or 4G if you have it). The third on the list describes your phone when it's not in use (screen off). Don't worry about that one, a higher % only means your phone is often in standby.
Having Wi-Fi on will often use more battery than using your phone's own network. To save even more battery, turn off 3G connectivity when you're not using it (you will still receive calls, just no internet, but you use Wi-Fi anyway).
Charging your phone every day is perfectly fine, just make sure you unplug it once it hits 100%. If you leave it plugged in while it's fully charged, it gets bad for the battery after a while.
That article about the battery drain in standby is likely just for Samsung devices. What is likely draining your battery are apps and services that run in the background and use the internet while in standby.
jacklebott said:
What's shown as draining your battery the most is your phone's cell standby (your 3G & 2G network, or 4G if you have it). The third on the list describes your phone when it's not in use (screen off). Don't worry about that one, a higher % only means your phone is often in standby.
Having Wi-Fi on will often use more battery than using your phone's own network. To save even more battery, turn off 3G connectivity when you're not using it (you will still receive calls, just no internet, but you use Wi-Fi anyway).
Charging your phone every day is perfectly fine, just make sure you unplug it once it hits 100%. If you leave it plugged in while it's fully charged, it gets bad for the battery after a while.
That article about the battery drain in standby is likely just for Samsung devices. What is likely draining your battery are apps and services that run in the background and use the internet while in standby.
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95% of the time, 3G connection is OFF. I use Wi-fi connections, because I have many hotspots for it...
I don't have many APPs and the ones that I have installed (non-stock apps), dont run in background.
Today, I turned off wi-fi, and only turned on when need, and for more than 2 hours, only losted 1% of battery (have takken photos, and made phone calls only).
After this I used wi-fi for 20 minutes, and losted 8% off battery. So I think, Wi-fi is the problem. Please correct me if im wrong:
- If I have wi-fi always on, phone is always searching for wi-fi connections, even when sleeping, so battery drains much faster.
As you can see on the screenshot, with no wi-fi, for a little bit more than 2hours, only 1% of battery losted
Well you answered your question. Wifi is the problem. If it searches for wifi networks all of the time the battery will surely drain.
Definitely Wifi. It absolutely murders my battery when I forget to turn it off when I'm not using it.
Yes... for shure... its crazy like hell... lol... half an hour playing... half an hour surfing (youtube for my son... i put videos for him, once in a while)... and wi-fi drained more battery than gamming (FIFA 2010, Angry Birds, Spider-Man... also my son played)... funny thing, he has 20 months old, and love Xplay, more than me...
So... the hole day, I kept wi-fi turned off, and only turn it on, when needed... more than 12h latter, still have 62% off battery... and for the first time, will not charge this night...
Was so simple, as turning wi-fi off... check the screens...
Thanks all that helped
Everyone's always talking about battery life around here, but all those discussions about how long everyone's phone lasts seem pointless. Sure, one guy might be getting 30 hours of battery life, and some other guy might be getting 10 hours, but that could happen with both of them using the same phone if the first guy never touches it while the second guy is a gamer.
So in the interest of having a more useful discussion about battery life, I was hoping people could share how much their phone drains an hour while not being used, along with their configuration. That's what most people actually mean when they talk about battery life, how long it lasts when they're not using it.
By idle I mean with data connected (either WiFi or cellular), accounts syncing, but screen off and sleeping.
I'll start off I'm seeing battery use of about 3-4% / hour, I'm running Juggernaut 5 with faux kernel 009m, no undervolting or overclocking beyond whatever faux kernel 009m comes with.
I get about the same with just about the same setup as you and I think its high drain to be honest, but it gets me through the day. I get anywhere from 10-16 hours on a charge with an average of 3 to 3.5 hours of screen on time. It gets me through my long school days easy. I don't care for getting 20+ hours on one charge, because I actually use my phone and charge it every night.
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
Around 2% per hr.
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On warfare ROM, getting 2% per hour with wifi on
Getting about 2% drain every 7 hours overnight with background data on at the moment
Im at 30hr usage with about 25% battery power remaining on the stock rom. Battery isnt as nearly as bad as i thought.
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your post is confusing because cell standby is not the same as cell data. it also doesn't say how often the phone is syncing data... once per day?
in any case, i drop about 1% every 2 hours will cell standby (radio) on. stock rom, faux 009 kernel, nexus battery.
shinigenEddy said:
Getting about 2% drain every 7 hours overnight with background data on at the moment
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Whoa.
What's your setup?
kife42 said:
your post is confusing because cell standby is not the same as cell data. it also doesn't say how often the phone is syncing data... once per day?
in any case, i drop about 1% every 2 hours will cell standby (radio) on. stock rom, faux 009 kernel, nexus battery.
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What do you mean cell standby is not the same as cell data. What's the difference? Basically, I just mean with some sort of data connection set up, not in airplane mode.
Regarding syncing data, data syncing is continuous as long as you're connected if you have your accounts syncing under settings. There's no way to change the amount of times per day it syncs.
1 to 2 percent drop per hour.
Refer to my sig for more details.
cell standby is when your phone can receive phone calls and texts. cell data is internet, like 4g.
most people like to have their phone useful as a phone, so cell standby is usually on. but data syncing does not have to be continuous. you can open the internet connection for 10 seconds every minute, or a minute every hour, more often during work hours, etc. that's how apps like juice defender work.
also, 2g takes less battery than 4g. so if you're syncing with the display off, you could sync on 2g and just browse the web on 4g. it takes some effort to switch, but tasker can automate this.
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What do you mean cell standby is not the same as cell data. What's the difference? Basically, I just mean with some sort of data connection set up, not in airplane mode.
Regarding syncing data, data syncing is continuous as long as you're connected if you have your accounts syncing under settings. There's no way to change the amount of times per day it syncs.
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cell standby is when your phone can receive phone calls and texts. cell data is internet, like 4g.
most people like to have their phone useful as a phone, so cell standby is usually on. but data syncing does not have to be continuous. you can open the internet connection for 10 seconds every minute, or a minute every hour, more often during work hours, etc. that's how apps like juice defender work.
also, 2g takes less battery than 4g. so if you're syncing with the display off, you could sync on 2g and just browse the web on 4g. it takes some effort to switch, but tasker can automate this.
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Okay, well those are the types of things it'd be really helpful to hear about. What sort of idle usages people are seeing with different setups, such as when they're using JuiceDefender and the like.
2-5% per hour. Stock rooted phone.
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Never mind.
I get about 1/2% drain per hour on standby. Im running Darkside Digital 2.4, it comes out of the box underclocked. Thats on 4g, data syncing once a day, gps off, and alot of apps I dont use frozen or uninstalled.
I get about a 30% drop in 5 hours of no use..with data and wifi off. Now that is bad
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I get about a 30% drop in 5 hours of no use..with data and wifi off. Now that is bad
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That's really bad. Sounds like something is wakelocking your phone, you should get BetterBatteryStats and see what's holding the partial wakelocks.
I changed my kernel from faux 009m to Bullet, and set the governor to ondemand.
Cut my idle battery usage down to about 1% an hour, which is a great improvement from my previous 3% an hour.
My phone has been in Stanby since 7am (starting with 100% battery) and its now at 80% battery...
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running jauggernaut 4.1, juice defender on (free version), email set to sync once every 4hrs, wifi on, data off, BT and GPS always on, loses about 1-2% per hour during sleep. sometimes it goes a little crazy and lose like 5-8%/hr, but it goes back to normal after reboot.
guys i want to know if the battery life of your lumia 900 is good? mine sucks, I got the phone about 10 days ago, I find the battery drains very fast. normally the first 3-4 hours are good, but then it will drop like 20% within 30 minutes, then drains very fast, after around 10 hours it's only 20%ish. I use the phone in normal way, check emails as they arrive (about 20 emails a day), text 10-20, phone call 20-30mins, that's all.
I live in UK. first time I launch Nokia Music it stopped response, I had to reset my phone for it to work properly.
is this normal? what should I do to improve the battery life?
I found the battery life alot better on the 900 than my Titan and Lumia 800, I have 2 email accounts on sync every 15 mins and just a weather app running in background, I have tried hard to run the battery out in a day of heavy use and just managed it, It can depend greatly on how strong your signal is from your Network provider as if it has to struggle to find 3G or keep switching then this will drain the battery more, Maybe change email sync to either every 15 min or 30 min to see if that helps, Screen time-out at 30 secs and dark theme can also help conserve power, Check background tasks in settings and switch off unnecessary apps, Also a new battery will need several charges/discharges before it reaches its optimum capacity, Try not to run the battery out completely, Normally just after you get the low battery warning is best then charge overnight.
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I found the battery life alot better on the 900 than my Titan and Lumia 800, I have 2 email accounts on sync every 15 mins and just a weather app running in background, I have tried hard to run the battery out in a day of heavy use and just managed it, It can depend greatly on how strong your signal is from your Network provider as if it has to struggle to find 3G or keep switching then this will drain the battery more, Maybe change email sync to either every 15 min or 30 min to see if that helps, Screen time-out at 30 secs and dark theme can also help conserve power, Check background tasks in settings and switch off unnecessary apps, Also a new battery will need several charges/discharges before it reaches its optimum capacity, Try not to run the battery out completely, Normally just after you get the low battery warning is best then charge overnight.
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thanks for the tips mate. i've changed the sync to every 15mins. I also manual input apn option and turn of the location service. hope this will help...
Are you connected to a MicroCell anytime during the day. They are known to drain battery quickly. I have a lot more running than you (email & background) and my average "screen off" drain is about 3.5% per hour, or 56% per 16 hour day. That leaves me about 4 hours of screen on time before my battery is nearly drained (screen on/data/calls drains another 9-10% per hour). Pretty impressed with my battery actually.
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How do you guys measure the % drain per hour on the lumia? I know android does like a graph and stuff is there an app for it?
I have
Four email sync
Twitter
facebook
weather app
and take photos
and a few calls.
lasts me anything between `12 hours - heavy use to around 19 hours of mild to normal use and am actually quiet impressed with the battery.
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Turn off WIFI when not in use as it uses power to search for signal
Poor Network coverage will DRAIN battery as well.
Disable any Background tasks which you do not need.
And I charge my phone every night regardless of the battery percentage even if its 50% left
Search feature of the forumn... is it good?
thread in this forum all about battery life.
If you are in a known WiFi area, like home or work, no need to turn off WiFi. Uses less power for data transfer than LTE, but of course, may be a bit slower. Out and about and have your screen on a lot; might be a good idea to turn of WiFi. WiFi uses almost 0 power when your phone is sleeping.
Just finished a series of Background Task tests. Comparing drain with tasks enabled/disabled. About 0.5% per hour or 8% per 16 hour day. That's with 8 tasks running; USA Today, Fox News, Weather Channel, Mehdoh, Urban Dictionary, Network Dashboard, Clever-To-Do and Battery Meter. Btw, Battery Meter is a homebrew app, but you can check percentages on the Settings>Battery Saver screen.
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How do you guys measure the % drain per hour on the lumia? I know android does like a graph and stuff is there an app for it?
I have
Four email sync
Twitter
facebook
weather app
and take photos
and a few calls.
lasts me anything between `12 hours - heavy use to around 19 hours of mild to normal use and am actually quiet impressed with the battery.
Suggestions :
Turn off WIFI when not in use as it uses power to search for signal
Poor Network coverage will DRAIN battery as well.
Disable any Background tasks which you do not need.
And I charge my phone every night regardless of the battery percentage even if its 50% left
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The diagnostic mode will help see the battery percentage and power drained per second.
Just press ##634# and you will be able to see it.
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The diagnostic mode will help see the battery percentage and power drained per second.
Just press ##634# and you will be able to see it.
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I do know about the diagonistic mode... but uninstalled it as there are rumours it eats battery as well
Why would the Diagnostic App, which can't be uninstalled, as its part of your ROM, have anything to do with draining your battery. How do these rumors start. Guess this is another "truth" I will have to prove. Running a series of articles on Mobility Digest to squash all these urban legends. So far, push email, battery saver and background tasks. More to follow.
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I don't think it does, I loaded it up yesterday to check what my battery drain was, since then my phone has used 27% in 22 hours. Perhaps it uses a lot of power while you're using it, but surely not just by having it installed.
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Why would the Diagnostic App, which can't be uninstalled, as its part of your ROM, have anything to do with draining your battery. How do these rumors start. Guess this is another "truth" I will have to prove. Running a series of articles on Mobility Digest to squash all these urban legends. So far, push email, battery saver and background tasks. More to follow.
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It can be uninstalled as I have installed and uninstalled it quiet a few times now, probably it on a hidden partition of the ROM, but you can remove it.
Just for the sake of it I kept it all day today and my battery life was not affected as such,, so rumours are rumours after all
No, all you are doing is making it visible or invisible. Its always there. Do you actually see it installing like a Marketplace app, or does it just magically appear when you type in ##634# (or whatever it is). Oh, never mind.
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Got the phone brand new yesterday so below are the first discharge stats with wifi ON only and cellular data off and max speed set to edge.
Remaining battery: 57%
Time since last charge 7 hours.
I've been playing with it from time to time since I unplugged it. 2 emails fetching every 15 minutes, whatsapp, downloading and testing apps.
How does it rank for a first discharge?
Difficult to say. The first thing you should do is dial ##634# on the phone keypad which installs the diagnostic app, then you can check the battery discharge rate. It usually jumps around for a few seconds and then settles down to around 90mA - 110mA. If it's higher than this, something is draining the battery.
I'm finding that sometimes various apps seem to start up some sort of process that continues to drain the battery even when it's not doing anything, and the best thing to do in that case is a soft reset.
Doing this I managed 60 hours between the last two charges, and since then I've gone 80 hours with 29% still left. That's with very light use and no apps installed though.
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Difficult to say. The first thing you should do is dial ##634# on the phone keypad which installs the diagnostic app, then you can check the battery discharge rate. It usually jumps around for a few seconds and then settles down to around 90mA - 110mA. If it's higher than this, something is draining the battery.
I'm finding that sometimes various apps seem to start up some sort of process that continues to drain the battery even when it's not doing anything, and the best thing to do in that case is a soft reset.
Doing this I managed 60 hours between the last two charges, and since then I've gone 80 hours with 29% still left. That's with very light use and no apps installed though.
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My drain reads around 100ma so I guess I'm good.
i'm not getting good usage with the battery now, on my 3rd charge, and so far only able to last 1 day, and i'm not even consider as a heavy user, no text, only few whatsapp (around 10) 15-20min calls and little browsing and market downloads. i didn't even on the auto update for emails... hope that the battery will improve after a few more charge...
Recently bought this phone and am getting 6-8 hours SoT at half brightness in 1 day.
I feel this is surprisingly low, considering many reviewers on YouTube are getting up of 10+ hours, with one even reaching 13 hours /watch?v=31twODBCnNU skip to 8.20 mins.
Through gsam it looks like apps account for 70% of drain (screen only 30%?), of which most seems to come from Kernel (Android OS) and Android System (see image links). I am worried this is what is draining my battery.
What SoT are people getting and how much battery is being used by Kernel (Android OS) and Android System?
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Recently bought this phone and am getting 6-8 hours SoT at half brightness in 1 day.
I feel this is surprisingly low, considering many reviewers on YouTube are getting up of 10+ hours, with one even reaching 13 hours /watch?v=31twODBCnNU skip to 8.20 mins.
Through gsam it looks like apps account for 70% of drain (screen only 30%?), of which most seems to come from Kernel (Android OS) and Android System (see image links). I am worried this is what is draining my battery.
What SoT are people getting and how much battery is being used by Kernel (Android OS) and Android System?
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If cell signal reception is good I get upto 10 hrs. In my work place signal is poor so getting around 7-8 hrs. Overall get 1-1.5 days easily
I can second that. In optimal conditions I get up to 10 hours of SoT.
Have you disabled any apps and services to get that SoT? I disabled some google apps i don't use, facebook app and some more, disabled aod, double tap to wake and still can't get more than 7-8 hours.
Never gotten 10 hours before. How did your manage that? Anyone else want to share their SoT?
My average SOT with medium usage (Browser, Youtube, Telegram etc) is 10+ hours. Wifi only, no cellular, bluetooth off, gps off, nfc off, auto sync off, brightness 60%, night mode on, black theme on most apps even keyboard, disabled a lot of samsung/google apps with package disabler, disabled all bixby stuff, aod off, all the gestures off except palm swipe, power saving mode medium with CPU limited at 70% (no lag whatsoever PUBG plays fine)
With heavy usage (PUBG) battery drains 10-12% per hour
I get 7 hours SOT with heavy usage , gps Bluetooth, 4g on both sims ,all other services active , still get 7 hours .
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Can anyone post screenshots of their usage through device care/gsam app drain?
I usually get close to 11 hours with 20-25% brightness and adaptive power saving on.
Sync, location and wifi always on.
AOD - tap to show.
Overnight standby power drain is excellent...WiFi and mobile on.
My battery life, wifi and data on,everything else off
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My battery life, wifi and data on,everything else off
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What brightness level do you use to get those SoT?
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What brightness level do you use to get those SoT?
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About 25%
I am getting at least 10 hours of SOT with average usage. Browsing, messaging, streaming on WiFi.
When gaming I get around 5 to 6 hours.
Am on the May patch.
Hi Guys! I am new to samsung, I recently bought an A70. It is superb phone, I love it.
Please, is there any way to change wallpaper automatically without installing any 3rd party app?
How can we get 8-10 hours SOT? I am satisfied with 6-8 hours after Huawei P9 (it had only 3-4 hrs.)
thanks a lot in advance
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which pckage disabler you use boss i have recently updated my os and package disabler 15 dos not work. please share link of yours
Thanks.
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My average SOT with medium usage (Browser, Youtube, Telegram etc) is 10+ hours. Wifi only, no cellular, bluetooth off, gps off, nfc off, auto sync off, brightness 60%, night mode on, black theme on most apps even keyboard, disabled a lot of samsung/google apps with package disabler, disabled all bixby stuff, aod off, all the gestures off except palm swipe, power saving mode medium with CPU limited at 70% (no lag whatsoever PUBG plays fine)
With heavy usage (PUBG) battery drains 10-12% per hour
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I get around 6-7 hours.. Wifi, mobile data, auto sync and AOD are always on. Never used any power saving feature. Playing clash royale and PUBG for about 45 minutes daily.
I usually get around 6-7 hours, but thats with heavy gaming and bad mobile data signal reception and with 20-25% battery remaining, cuz I think draining the battery often will affect the lifespan of the battery.
Off topic but I just want to ask, is 3gb ram used by the system normal? I have the 6gb ram variant.
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I usually get around 6-7 hours, but thats with heavy gaming and bad mobile data signal reception and with 20-25% battery remaining, cuz I think draining the battery often will affect the lifespan of the battery.
Off topic but I just want to ask, is 3gb ram used by the system normal? I have the 6gb ram variant.
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Not normal at all
AoD off
Excellent signal reception on 2g mode only
Night mode. On and most black theme ing and wallpaper
Double tap to wake on
Facebook and lots of unnecessary apps disabled /uninstalled. I have yet to root my phone
Hello,
I purchased a Samsung Galaxy S20 5G (SM-G981B) 10 days ago as a replacement of my 3 years old S8. I actually chose the S20 because of the WQHD. FHD+ is a no for me. Before using it I did a factory reset as the phone is updated to the latest SW upong switching it on. I didn't transfer my data from the old phone, I just installed everything from scratch, and only some of the apps I use, no games. I don't have a microSD in my phone.
The phone is really good in all aspects, except 1: battery life. I have a massive 1.8 to 2% per hour idle battery drain during the night (with everything off apart from Radio network: Wifi, bluetooth, location, data all off), this leads to ridiculous SOT time: between 2 to 3 hours.
I have all battery optimizations settings activated: all smart movement off, adaptive battery on, AOD off, Location is off (or set to when app in use) for all apps. I have put most of the apps in deep sleep when not in use, google location history and location sharing disabled, vibration disabled for everything apart from phone calls, etc...
I have installed GSAM and adjusted permissions through ADB. I attached 2 screenshots of a normal day usage (battery from 100% to 21% before going to charge, SOT below 2 hours). I charged my phone then to 100% and went to sleep without using it. 8 hours afterwards (with everything disabled) phone is at 85% battery. I took screenshots of the app sucker and details of the 10 most consuming apps.
I need a support to translate these into actions. I don't understand meaning of the wakelocks and I would appreciate if someone can pinpoint the issue with my idle battery life. If the normal behaviour is this then I would have to return the phone, because my 3 years old S8 performs exactly the same in terms of battery.
Thank you in advance for your support.
Hello,
I could find what's causing my battery drain: LTE network.
Actually, even if mobile data is disabled, camping on LTE network would consume about 2% per hour. I tried changing this to GSM and my phone now would consume 2 to 3% for the whole night, which is around 0.3 or 0.4% per hour.
Using heavily the mobile on GSM and WIFI would give me more than 7 hours SOT.
Being a remote worker now, it's ok for me to keep the phone on GSM as I am on Wifi all the time, now I use LTE only when going out.
Hope this helps the community.