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Battery re-calibration??

This started on suiller's ROM guide, but I feel it's really OT so I should take it outside.
I've had battery issue ever since I got the Diamond. With moderate use (maybe ~15-20min of call per day, email check every 30 min, moderate web browsing) the battery level can drop by ~ 15-20% per hour on average. This means the battery would only last 5-6 hours without charging, which is not good enough to last through a day.
I first looked at whether the phone has any serious battery drain application, and it doesn't. With BatteryStatus I see the battery drain is ~ 100-150mA with GSM on, BT on. When I'm downloading email, or browsing the web, it does go up to 200 ~ 300mA briefly, but that is only when it's transmitting / receiving data. In standby mode with screen off it drains less than 50mA. These numbers seem pretty typical from my experience.
And here's the weird thing - on a typical day, when I wake up, and take the phone off the charger, it can drop from 100% to 93% within 30 min. On the way to work, when I would browse the web lightly, it can easily drop from 93% to 80-85% within an hour. That's pretty bad battery life.
Yet there are instances when I've been browsing the web, or playing MP3, or using YouTube for a good 10-15 min, but the battery level would not drop.
I figure maybe the battery needs to be re-calibrated, so I decided to discharge the battery and recharge it. I know this doesn't help improve the battery life of LiIon batteries, but I was trying to recalibrate it.
What happened, when I was discharging the battery, was I found the battery drop was very quick from 100% down to ~ 50%. From that point on, the battery drop is much slower.
And from 50% to 25% the battery seems to last forever. The most interesting thing is with the battery down to 15%, I did a lot of 3G web browsing, listening to MP3's, turn wifi on, and that 15% of battery lasted a good 3.5 hrs with heavy use until it's so low the phone stopped working.
The whole discharging process ended up taking 10 hours, and that's with HEAVY use for the last 3-4 hours too. That's actually acceptable for battery life (not great, but at least it'll last me through a day outside with moderate use) and obviously doesn't jive with the 15-20% drop per hour when I'm operating in the 50-100% full range.
When I'm charging the battery, I also noticed the level went up from 0% to 70% very quickly ... pretty much over 40 min. BatteryStatus shows it's being charged at +600-700mA.
As the battery gets full, the charging is much slower ... BatteryStatus shows it is charging by ~ 100-200mA only.
With the battery level up to 99%, it took almost forever to finally get up to 100%. I think it took at least 20 min.
So after a full discharge - recharge, I used my phone as normal this morning to see if it's been calibrated, but nope. It still drops from 100 to 93% within minutes of doing virtually nothing, and easily drop to 80% after an hour ride to work.
Does your battery perform the same way? Should I replace my battery? Or is there a way to properly calibrate the battery?
btw location and reception has nothing to do with it. I have good to excellent reception throughout this test.

I'm having the same problem but not with every rom (don't know wich ones, tested almost every rom hero) So is this a piece of software wich shows the live that doesn't work ?? or is it the battery ? As i can see it it's depending on rom thus it's not hardware
But hey I'm n00b

i've noticed that a soft reset or power up will use 3-7% of battery depending on the weather (what else could it be )
don't have the ability to discharge but i agree that in many cases the battery usage drops drastically & there is no reasonable cause
hope someone can figure this out!

From 4pda.ru
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=85754&st=100&p=2338080&#entry2338080
1. discharge the battery completely (by playing video, audio, etc.)
2. Remove the battery and wait about 1min then place it back (do not power on the phone)
3. Full Charge the phone, wait when LEDs stop blinking (do not power on the phone)
4. When fully charged - remove the battery (do not power on the phone)
5. Wait about 1min then place the battery to the phone and now you can power it on.
If battery is more or less OK it will re-calibrate.
I hope it will help!

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From 4pda.ru
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=85754&st=100&p=2338080&#entry2338080
1. discharge the battery completely (by playing video, audio, etc.)
2. Remove the battery and wait about 1min then place it back (do not power on the phone)
3. Full Charge the phone, wait when LEDs stop blinking (do not power on the phone)
4. When fully charged - remove the battery (do not power on the phone)
5. Wait about 1min then place the battery to the phone and now you can power it on.
If battery is more or less OK it will re-calibrate.
I hope it will help!
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Thanks. I tried those steps yesterday and my phone is pretty much behaving the exact same way after the battery cycle.
After all the steps, the battery shows it's 100%. I unplug it, and it drops to 97% within MINUTES literally. Now I plug it back in, and it takes forever to get from 97% back to 100% (> 1hour)
I think it may be a battery problem and not a calibration problem. The drain averages ~ 120-150mA when phone on, screen on, no data, and below 100mA with phone on in standby mode. That seems pretty typical? I'd think the battery should last longer than 8 hours (till it completely dies) in that case.
Where do you guys suggest I buy a new battery for the Diamond (other than HTC directly)? I bought one from DealExtreme but the battery runs ~ 10C hotter than normal all the times ... I don't think I want that as my primary battery.

If you get through a full day with moderate-heavy use on your battery, I say that is normal and good battery life on a Diamond. So, why bother that the percentage is not proportional? I would not get a new battery for this since the problem is only in the reported percentage, not the battery life itself.
I've had plenty of cars that went from full to half tank on the meter significantly faster than from half to almost empty. You know about it and adapt to it, simply.

Hello !
I'm understand you, i have a ELF (Touch P3450), and a Diamond, the same problem appear for the two phones!
Every Morning, when i disconnect from charge my diamond, my level battery go to 93% in 10mns without reasons (One sms, no 3G, no Wifi etc).
My battery go down to 50~70% around 14H (2H pm), and stays at this level for many hours (4-5hours ~), i think it's not a problem with our battery, but a dysfunction of the sensor battery, which shows wrong data =/
By the way, that problem doesn't appear every day, for example, today my battery has that level : 83% (15h43), so today it has a good level.
Since i have flash that ROM : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521941, with radio 1.13.25.24, i have less less issues with my battery, it's more stable!
That's all, hope that helps you.

Ok guys, I've made a few discoveries that I figure I could share with everybody. Maybe you'll find it useful.
Last week I went on a trip and turned off the data connection while I was out of the country. Instead of letting the roaming charges kill me, I was relying on wifi to check emails and browse the web.
I ended up checking emails just as often, because where I worked had wifi AP.
Now, I could usually get 8, maybe 9 hrs out of my battery with moderate use before it's completely empty previously. So I was very surprised to find that with a similar usage pattern, but using wifi instead of EDGE/GPRS I still had 30-50% battery left at the end of 8-9 hours day everyday during the trip. I know data uses a lot of battery, but I always thought wifi drains even more, so that's quite a stunning discovery.
Now, I don't think it was due to wifi draining less than GPRS/EDGE (can't be true), so it must be something else. In trying to figure out what made the difference, I did a bunch of tests after the trip, and this is what I find-
1. Data channel dis-connection / re-connection is BAD
I used to always set my phone to auto-disconnect data channel (EDGE/GPRS) after 5 min of inactivity, in an attempt to save battery. What I found, was keeping the data channel open does NOT actually drain more battery than leaving it off at all. Transmitting data drains battery, but not leaving the channel open. However, disconnecting it, and re-connecting it all the times actually drains quite a bit of battery. I set my phone to check email every 30 minutes, and then there's also the odd weather forecast that needs data channel. In a 9 hrs day, that means channel disconnection + reconnection of about 40 times.
The last couple days I have left my data connection ON all the times, and I actually get more hours out of my battery. My battery used to drop ~ 10-15% per hour with moderate use. By keeping the channel on all the times it's been kept to under 10% per hour!!! I've only tested it for a couple days. I'll report more on it once I get to test it for longer, but the idea that 'keeping data connection off when you're not using it to save battery" seems to be a complete myth. The opposite actually saves battery!!!! And as a bonus, I don't even have to wait for the data channel to connect when I need it!!
2. Recycling the radio is VERY BAD
Everybody knows 3G is a real battery killer. However, similar to EDGE/GPRS, keeping the 3G channel open does NOT drain any more battery than turning it off, or turning on EDGE/GPRS channel. When the data channel is idling, it doesn't matter whether it's on EDGE, GPRS, 3G, or even completely turned off, the battery drain is close to zero in all cases.
Now, you do see a 1.5 - 2 times battery drain with 3G compared to EDGE/GPRS, so I've always turned 3G on only for web browsing or watching YouTube, and use GPRS / EDGE for regular emails update. The thing is though, if you're not transmitting much data (which you won't for regular email update), the difference in battery drain is minimal. SWITCHING between 2G and 3G though, requires a radio power cycle (turn off then back on to switch frequency) and THAT drains a lot of battery!!!
So if you're often switching between 3G and 2G, and you only transmit little data in 2G mode, you might actually be better off keeping it in 3G all the times instead of forcing the radio to power-cycle all the times.
I've tried keeping it in 3G all day long and I noticed minimal increase in battery drain. However, there might be another reason you want to consider - RADIATION. 3G not only drains more battery than 2G, it also transmits at a stronger power than 2G and as a result create more radiation. For that reason, I'm still keeping my phone to 2G for email updates and what not, and switch to 3G only for web browsing. For radiation you may try this thread if you want to read more about it.
3. VGA screen is a REAL battery killer
I do quite a bit of reading on my phone (ebook, on-line magazines etc) and reading ebook was never a battery concern in my days with the Touch (QVGA screen).
That's why I was quite surprised on the Diamond, reading the ebook for 1 hour, with EVERYTHING else turned off (GSM, EDGE, GPRS, 3G, BT, wifi), my battery level went down by 12% in ~1 hour.
The VGA screen drains a lot more battery than the QVGA screen. Now, if you need to use the phone you need to use the screen, there isn't much of a choice. It does make sense, however, that if you're using the screen for a while (like reading ebook) switching from a high brightness level to a lower brightness level.
Oh, and the auto-adjust brightness thing? That doesn't help you save battery at all. This is because it polls the light sensor every 2 sec (default value, but you can change it) and adjust screen brightness accordingly. This mechanism drains battery in itself, and in most cases end up using more battery than keeping the brightness constant at a low to medium level.
The auto-adjust thing is cool, and in theory it sounds like it can save you battery, but unless you constantly set the brightness to max even when you're in a dark environment, disable the auto-adjust and just set it to a constant 50-60% instead.
These are the few things I've noticed and I'm still trying things out, but over the last 2 days I've seen a significant drop in battery drain. I would be lucky to go through a 8-9 hrs day with moderate to heavy use before, the first 2 days I tried this I still had 60% battery left after 5 hrs of moderate use. The Diamond is very weak on battery life so every bit helps! I hope these tips are useful to you!

Thanks for your share

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When I'm charging the battery, I also noticed the level went up from 0% to 70% very quickly ... pretty much over 40 min. BatteryStatus shows it's being charged at +600-700mA.
As the battery gets full, the charging is much slower ... BatteryStatus shows it is charging by ~ 100-200mA only.
With the battery level up to 99%, it took almost forever to finally get up to 100%. I think it took at least 20 min.
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It's exactly what the charging process is supposed to do.
Read more here:
The charge time of most chargers is about 3 hours...
Increasing the charge current does not shorten the charge time by much. Although the voltage peak is reached quicker with higher charge current, the topping charge will take longer.
Some chargers claim to fast-charge a lithium-ion battery in one hour or less. Such a charger eliminates stage 2 and goes directly to 'ready' once the voltage threshold is reached at the end of stage 1. The charge level at this point is about 70%. The topping charge typically takes twice as long as the initial charge.
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source:batteryuniversity (dot) com

This battery life isn't normal right? Bad drain

I cant tell if it's always been like this. Or if this actually isn't normal because I'm always concern with battery life. Im a very heavy user in the sense my phone will be on and im texting, xda, social apps i.e google +, email check every hr, and twitter.
However, i started feeling like my battery has been draining alot faster when the screen is on. I have no problem with the phone sleeping. I was experience this on Calk rom and now acs ics rom. I literally can look at my battery percentage drop 10% in like a half hour. Is this normal if screen is on the whole time? I've used better battery stats and system panel I can't find anything causing the drain. I see the suspend and events but doesn't that effect the phone sleeping?
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Are you on the new modem? Looks like you have weak a signal. EG31 might help a little if your not on it already. I used the full EG31 tar right when it dropped and have been getting great battery life (it may be to early but so far so good)
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not sure if its going to work but hoping it does thanks for the response still

turn your display down to under 50% you won't see a difference except outside in daylight and kill this app every time you reboot the phone hit Settings>Applications>Running services then hit DRM content > stop > ok
I get over a day on one charge.

Glenn54 said:
turn your display down to under 50% you won't see a difference except outside in daylight and kill this app every time you reboot the phone hit Settings>Applications>Running services then hit DRM content > stop > ok
I get over a day on one charge.
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Ok ill try the drm content stop..however my display brightness is already down at like 10%.

Also, kill the Social Hub as well, that drains the battery significantly.

You might try one of several roms available in dev. They address most of the aforementioned issues.
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The biggest battery drain reason is the location by wireless network option. Make sure its unchecked. Ever since I did that, my battery life has been awesome. I get to keep my brightness high, Bluetooth on, etc...
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bsmoove386 said:
I cant tell if it's always been like this. Or if this actually isn't normal because I'm always concern with battery life. Im a very heavy user in the sense my phone will be on and im texting, xda, social apps i.e google +, email check every hr, and twitter.
However, i started feeling like my battery has been draining alot faster when the screen is on. I have no problem with the phone sleeping. I was experience this on Calk rom and now acs ics rom. I literally can look at my battery percentage drop 10% in like a half hour. Is this normal if screen is on the whole time? I've used better battery stats and system panel I can't find anything causing the drain. I see the suspend and events but doesn't that effect the phone sleeping?
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All the basics (brightness and all that stuff) on top of the stuff you have running. The darn task killer/manager I see in the icon top left of your screenshot is a HOG on resources check the caching... You can literally **** with these phones for half a day to set it up the right way to conserve. I think wireless is hogging too but I am talking primarily about the first part of your rapid loss, the left part of the graph so to speak.
JC

I purchased an extended battery and was still getting crappy battery life. SpareParts always FC'd on me... but last night I found Badass Battery Monitor in the market and in my opinion it's even better than SpareParts!
It helped me find that the Hotmail app was keeping my phone awake for almost an hour every day even though I had it set to download email only once a day. Removed that right away.
Plus it gives a great % readout in notification of the battery level. I think it's a fairly new app, but it really is worth checking out especially if you're having battery drain problems.

Just killing Social Hub has increased my battery life significantly. I'm at 11 hours now on battery, with 62% left. This is from last night when I unplugged the phone at 100%.

DevalB said:
Just killing Social Hub has increased my battery life significantly. I'm at 11 hours now on battery, with 62% left. This is from last night when I unplugged the phone at 100%.
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I'm on the Sydnicate Rom there isn't even no social hubb app. He has alot of the mods like noCiq and everything. My phone sleeps well its just when I start using it I can see it basically draining like 10% every half hour. I'm a heavy user I know my phone will drain fast while I'm on it I just would expect it to last 8-10 hours on heavy use.
Right NOW:
I'm at 4 hours 12 mins 22 secs at 37% left.
Display Time is 50% 2 hrs 41 mins 51s (Brightness is set all the way down)
Android OS 10%
So I'm assuming in 2 more hours my phone will die. If this is just normal for a heavy user then I guess I have to deal with it?

I was very disappointed with my Epic Touch when I first got it. I was getting a dead battery in about 6 to 8 hours no matter what I did or did not do.
Calibrating the battery seems to have fixed it.
I'm at 73% battery with 8:32 hours up time and I've made about 12 calls ranging from 2 to 10 minutes.
I've also checked voice mails, emails and other stuff.
I just charged the battery til it was full, plugged and repeated until it stayed at 10%, popped into CWM5 and cleared the battery data and then used Battery Calibration from the market (free) and it's like a got a battery upgrade!
As far as wake lock issues, I've not having any of those. I took my charger off the phone around 3:30am this morning (100% charge) and when I left for work at 6:50am, I had 98% battery still.
When I got to work it was down to 96%, I checked my email on the drive there.

I'm trying this out, wish me luck.
There doesn't seem to be any possible way to charge my battery to 100%, unplug it and not have it immediately drop to 99%.

bsmoove386 said:
I cant tell if it's always been like this. Or if this actually isn't normal because I'm always concern with battery life. Im a very heavy user in the sense my phone will be on and im texting, xda, social apps i.e google +, email check every hr, and twitter.
However, i started feeling like my battery has been draining alot faster when the screen is on. I have no problem with the phone sleeping. I was experience this on Calk rom and now acs ics rom. I literally can look at my battery percentage drop 10% in like a half hour. Is this normal if screen is on the whole time? I've used better battery stats and system panel I can't find anything causing the drain. I see the suspend and events but doesn't that effect the phone sleeping?
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If those screens are both from the same charge, I see nothing wrong with your phone.
you have 17% left, and you have 2.5 hours of screen on time. So you're on target to get just over 3 hours of on screeen time which is completely in the norm for these phones. AND you're over 12 hours. I don't understand what else you could ask for?
People get all caught up on total charge time, but, to be honest, it's completely IRRELEVENT.
If I dont use my phone I'll get easily over 48 hours out of the phone... Screen on time is what matters. And from a full charge, if I were to use my phone for 4 straight hours without stopping, it would be about dead. When the screen is on, you're using the phone, and the display is the biggest battery suck out there. When I do all the tricks to conserve battery, and I set it up right, I get 4 hours screen on time, which is pretty incredible with these phones.
Now, If you WANT to get better then you have right now, a few things are coming into play.
1) Your signal is weak, this will suck power no matter what more then it should, so get better signal if you want some more time out of your phone.
2) If you installed a new rom, and you didn't calibrate your battery properly, you're losing battery life.
to calibrate properly:
a) download battery callibration app from market
b) charge to 100%
c) unplug battery charger and REPLUG IN and wait for 100%
d) repeat step c a couple times
e) while plugged in hit the calibrate battery button in the app
f) unplug phone and use til dead and recharge
This will yeild you the best battery life.
3) De-Theme. Although I use a theme, every theme I've tested, for one reason or another, drains my battery faster then running the stock phone theme.
4) If you haven't done the basic battery saving things, you should do them to help yourself out. Here's a few I use.
a) Turn off background data, you only need it on to use market
b) Turn off, or set sync for all email and social apps at as long intervals as possible
c) dont use any widgets
d) download watchdog lite so you can see when apps are acting up and using extra battery
e) when you're done using your phone, open task manager, kill all apps, and clear memory
f) always leave the brightness off automatic and as low as possible
g) download SETCPU and run your phone at 800mhz, and undervolt as much as possible (50mv most all phone can take)
h) use black or dark wallpapers, on LED screens back means the pixel is off which uses less battery
G will be your biggest battery save. I've also tried using the SUPERFREEZE thing in the dev section and, besides in sleep mode, I saw no adverse effect. If you wanna kill socialhub, fine, but I dont see any noticable difference on my phone with it off.
If you do all these I promise you'll get better battery life.

Wow, I did a proper calibration today and I'm getting great results already. I've calibrated before but I never had cleared stats in CWM or did the unplug then replug charging thing.
Anyways, I after 12 hours I'm still at 35%! The longest I've ever gone before is 12.5 hours. Screen on time = 1 hour 30 min, but some of that was a battery intensive game (puzzle quest 2). Also i'm running calk's rom, so i'm sure that helped.
Thanks kdoggy, i didn't expect to see results this great.
Those are good tips too Jermzz, thanks!

32%: Brightness on low, data off, battery saver on and...

... it says I have 4 hours left. Extrapolate that and it gives me 12 hours on a single charge.
I have a stock LG Quantum. Is my battery in need of changing or is this just the norm? (honest question)
Cause this noise is ridiculous.

I have no idea really. My Lumia gives me 22% and 2 hours left, for what it's worth. Unplugged it this morning at 7:30, medium (by my standards) usage.
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sure haven't said:
... it says I have 4 hours left. Extrapolate that and it gives me 12 hours on a single charge.
I have a stock LG Quantum. Is my battery in need of changing or is this just the norm? (honest question)
Cause this noise is ridiculous.
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Probobly a battery problem? Check with the store you bought it at, the warranty should cover the battery problem and they will hopefully send it in and give you a new battery. Just describe it well to them.
I'm using LG Optimus 7 (since April 2011), and got about 26h battery with 100% charge, medium brightness, a bright tile theme and Battery saver. I usually use alot of 3G and Wifi and it's holding atleast a whole day.
I sent it in once for a battery fix and an upgrade to mango (and before that, the battery held for like 19h).
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I have no idea really. My Lumia gives me 22% and 2 hours left, for what it's worth. Unplugged it this morning at 7:30, medium (by my standards) usage.
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Hope you updated with the battery-fix update for Lumia
22% should give you like 5 hours atleast..

When I had my Focus it would do great on battery for a month, then all the sudden it would drain fast like yours. A factory reset fixed it for a month, then it did it again. I have no idea why, just my experience.

I did update it, but I've been hammering the phone for a few hours this evening. I got 17% now and 2 hours left, I think it's kinda fair. The readings that the options give while you're using the phone are really worth nothing tho...
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Sometime, you need to re-calibrate the battery...
But yeah, sometime, i don't even know if my phone display correct battery life or not..
For an Example, i turned on Battery Saver and left the phone screen off while listening to music on it.
2 hours later, the battery dropped only 2%.

Battery usage is hardly linear though

..3g conn off and battery saver on i got 3,5-4 days with calls and msg-s,
i think its battery defect.I got optimus 7 with same battery as you do..

Thanks for the replies guys.
I did a hard reset a while back and yeah, for like a week I was getting 30+ hours of a charge. Now it's ridiculous like I outlined. I really hope it's a battery thing, but part of me knows better?
Unfortunately, my phone's warranty is over. I'm considering one of those more powerful batteries. But it's not OEM stuff, may not be very good.

It depends how you use your phone really, and windows phone calculates the time from when you use it until it drains. I just got my Titan for only a week, installed Skype on it and literally drained for a mere 5hours and 40 minutes on wifi, although talk time states it is 11h 50 min on 2G and 6h 50min on 3G, not surprising it lasted 5h on wifi.
Then after charging, it showed that I only have 5 hours battery life remaining and time since last charged it less than 1 hour. This looked terrible so I did a hard reset and first and went back to 1 day and 15 hours. After a while of not using skype, it lasted about 2 days on regular use (sms, push email, foursquare). Used skype again and battery drained, now I had it with hard reset so I just charged it full and did not use skype on it. Few hours later, it went back to 1 day and (now) 12 hours.

From my experience on my almost 1 year old Samsung Focus,
1. the battery life prediction on Battery Saver is not very accurate.
2. turning on the battery saver will greatly enhance battery life as all background services, syncs and push notification services are turned off.
3. 3G uses a lot of battery.
4. 2G or EDGE will enhance battery life greatly.
5. Amoled displays consume a lot of battery especially with a white theme.

WP doesn't actually last long when browsing over WiFi, I hope this gets sorted either in Tango or Apollo...
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[Q] Odd battery drain issue

Had my 900 about a week now, and in the first few days the battery life was looking good, lasting nearly two days with lots of texts, emailing, a few pictures taken and lots of talk time.
Then a couple of days ago it suddenly got worse. Started losing about 4% per hour. I charged it fully last night and then this morning nine hours later there was only 60% remaining.
I decided to try and find out what was happening. Found the diagnostics app and the battery drain was showing around 164mA. I don't have anything running that could be using so much power, so I wondered if I was suddenly getting a poor 3G signal and the phone was using a lot of power trying to receive it. So I put it into flight mode. Still around 164mA.
Finally I powered the phone off and then back on. Now it srttled down to around 95mA.
So what was running that was using so much power, that got switched off when the phone powered off? Could it be the GPS? I did fire up Nokia Drive and Nokia Maps the other day to play around with them. Could it be that the phone forgets to turn the GPS off when the apps that use it aren't running?

redwhiteandblue said:
Had my 900 about a week now, and in the first few days the battery life was looking good, lasting nearly two days with lots of texts, emailing, a few pictures taken and lots of talk time.
Then a couple of days ago it suddenly got worse. Started losing about 4% per hour. I charged it fully last night and then this morning nine hours later there was only 60% remaining.
I decided to try and find out what was happening. Found the diagnostics app and the battery drain was showing around 164mA. I don't have anything running that could be using so much power, so I wondered if I was suddenly getting a poor 3G signal and the phone was using a lot of power trying to receive it. So I put it into flight mode. Still around 164mA.
Finally I powered the phone off and then back on. Now it srttled down to around 95mA.
So what was running that was using so much power, that got switched off when the phone powered off? Could it be the GPS? I did fire up Nokia Drive and Nokia Maps the other day to play around with them. Could it be that the phone forgets to turn the GPS off when the apps that use it aren't running?
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Not sure forgets is the right answer, but you may want to look at the Background tasks and see what is running when it shouldn't.
I know when I add a new app or 2...sometimes I get myself in a position where the battery drain becomes excessive. I usually just unistall the app. You've probably read a few of the battery threads here. If not, take a look. Lots of good conversation about ...well....lots of things....
For me, the biggest drain is Wordament....and its ads....I'll wipe out my battery in an hour playing that thing....

Just finished a series of tests for Background Tasks in my L900 (full article on Mobility Digest). 8 Background Tasks running burns 0.5% per hour, or 8% in a 16 hour day. Tasks included: USA Today, Fox News, Weather Channel, Urban Dictionary, Mehdoh, Network Dashboard, Clever-To-Do and Battery Meter (homebrew app that actually runs every 10 minutes vs. 30 minutes, or longer).
Except for short spikes, my phone always hovers in the 95 to 125 mA range. Data signal is still the biggest battery demon while phone is asleep. Screen while phone is awake.
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Overnight my phone seems to have used less than 1% per hour, that's with wifi on but not connected to any network. Perhaps I'll see what it does with wifi off.
I'd still like to know what it was that was draining the battery until yesterday when I power cycled it. I only had the App highlighter app and the Weather Channel app running in background, and I've since disabled the App Highlighter. But they weren't using 4% of the juice per hour. I didn't have bluetooth on.
I guess if anyone is seeing a high battery drain the simple answer is to try power cycling your phone first and see if that stops it.

jimski said:
Just finished a series of tests for Background Tasks in my L900 (full article on Mobility Digest). 8 Background Tasks running burns 0.5% per hour, or 8% in a 16 hour day. Tasks included: USA Today, Fox News, Weather Channel, Urban Dictionary, Mehdoh, Network Dashboard, Clever-To-Do and Battery Meter (homebrew app that actually runs every 10 minutes vs. 30 minutes, or longer).
Except for short spikes, my phone always hovers in the 95 to 125 mA range. Data signal is still the biggest battery demon while phone is asleep. Screen while phone is awake.
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Cool! I'd love to see a wifi vs cellular data battery benchmark.

Well that would be hard for background activities as WiFi goes to sleep at power off.
I did try to use LTE only for a couple days, but AT&T did not start reporting my daily data usage on my monthly anniversary data. I wanted to see how much data I was using over a typical week with LTE only. On can tell you in those two days, LTE was burning 20-30% (13% per hour on WiFi / 17-18% per hour over LTE) more power per hour when the screen was on and I was browsing or using Board Express. A more comprehensive teat will follow though.
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Well that would be hard for background activities as WiFi goes to sleep at power off.
I did try to use LTE only for a couple days, but AT&T did not start reporting my daily data usage on my monthly anniversary data. I wanted to see how much data I was using over a typical week with LTE only. On can tell you in those two days, LTE was burning 20-30% (13% per hour on WiFi / 17-18% per hour over LTE) more power per hour when the screen was on and I was browsing or using Board Express. A more comprehensive teat will follow though.
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The above somewhat proves how cellular data can often be a big battery drain comparable to abundant wifi at home or other common places. Looking forward to ur tests.

Well the battery drain problem came back yesterday.
The phone has done pretty well however, with very light use (one short call, a few texts, checking FB, checking the weather and not much else) the battery is at 24% after 48 hours. Overnight it went through about 8% in nine hours.
However, yesterday evening I noticed that the battery was losing 4% - 5% per hour again. By yesterday morning it was at 70% after 24 hours. After another 9 hours it was down to 43%. That's having made no calls, only a couple of texts, and very little else. At 9.30pm I checked the diagnostics app and battery drain was over 200mA. There was no obvious reason why it would be so high. So I powered the phone off and back on again, and sure enough, battery drain settled back down to between 90 and 110 mA, and as I said, overnight the battery lost less than 1% charge per hour.
The only background task I have enabled is the Weather Channel app. I'm going to let the battery run right down, recharge it, uninstall this app, and then see if I can repeat this pattern (if people will hold off from calling me!) If it's not this app then there must be something else, something in the firmware that goes haywire after a certain time and starts using lots of power.
I note that some people have observed that the battery starts to drain quicker after a while. I'd be interested to know if anyone can repeat the same pattern I'm seeing.

Bought new Z play/kind of disappointed with the battery life

Hello all,
I bought a new Z play to replace my ageing phone, and I have mixed feelings about the battery life. The phone has received universal praise for its battery life, and while some of it is true in my case, I can't seem to get those high SoT numbers that everyone brags about.
It's very difficult for me to break the 6h SoT barrier, and I consider myself a light user: whatsapp, browsing, some reddit, and the occasional music (through headphones). I don't play any games, or perform heavy tasks. Also the phone is connected to WiFi 85% of the time, get decent signal, and the screen is set on auto-brightness.
Running latest version of the stock rom, and I performed factory reset + wiped cache + reset network settings countless times as per suggestions.
Attached some stats for 50% that I just took.
Is there something I'm missing?

Take it with a grain of salt, just because people brag about numbers does not mean they are real or obtainable by everyone. Battery life will vary for every user and phone. The time you have is in the acceptable range and I would not worry.

Yes, even I have never achieved the 8-9+ hrs of SOT that's I've seen in some threads. Based on my usage I get a minimum of 6.5hr SOT with the phone lasting a good 25-27 hours before I have to plug it back in.
Since the phone is new it might take a few cycles for the battery to truly show its stamina.

Those answer are definitely right. It all varies on the users. . Also please makes sure you have bluetooth and wifi scanning off. (Location> Scanning > Bluetooth & Wifi Scanning) Another factor is apps. Get rid of facebook and facebook messenger. Apps that use GCM eat battery like a range rover eats gas. I've hit 8--10 hr of SOT before. Let your phone get use to your daily activities. I believe it'll optimize itself over time.

It's normal.
I was also getting earlier 5-6 hrs SOT(When the device was new) but not I'm getting 8-9 hrs SOT.
So as your phone is new it might take few cycles for the battery to show its full stamina!
Cheers!!

Thanks for the replies and for putting my mind at ease.
Bluetooth and wifi scanning are off (forgot to mention that).
Anyway, I understand. Those insane SoT of 10+ are best case scenarios with careful use of the device. Still happy with my current capacity (anything which lasts until the next morning is great).
And yep, the phone manual (who reads those anymore), did mention the battery taking a few cycles before reaching its capacity.
Now, for a different issue. If I'd like to disable turbocharging/quickcharging my phone, would a USB C to A cable coupled with any charger (including the quickcharging ones) do the trick? Based on my understanding, the cable limits the chargining power, so any regular (quality) C to A cable should restore normal charging speeds even when using a fast charging charger. In case you're wondering why I'd like to do that, it's because the phone gets way too hot for my liking when using the Moto turbocharger and I'd like to reserve that for when necessary.

Well, guyz do have a point.
The screenshots are showing you have almost 3hrs SoT after day and a half. This is normal.
Those >10 hrs of SoT aren't achieved with careful usage. Coming from my experience, I got 10.5 hrs SoT with 10% battery left, BUT, in one day. My Moto can last up to 3 day with one charge, but in those 3 days I'll have maybe 4hrs SoT. So, in average, my Moto lasts up to 2 days with 6/7hrs SoT (I mostly use FB, Messenger, WhatsApp, Viber, YT, Instagram, stock 6.0.1). It simply depends how you use it. That big, almost 11hrs SoT, I could only achieve on weekends, coz otherwise I don't have the time to stare in my phone so much.
On that other thing, Moto does get pretty hot while charging. And you're right, the cable does limit the charging power so it will probably work.

I was one of those users getting 10h SoT early on. But I was doing that inside a 24h usage window. Your 50% stats have you stretched out to like almost 3 days off charger. Idle time vs. screen on time is ALWAYS a trade-off.
I look at battery drain in terms of drain rate at idle, and drain rate with screen on. Early on I was seeing 6% drain per hour of screen on, and 1-1.5% per hour screen off. So basically 5 hours of idle time costs you 1 hour screen on. Those were my numbers on the original MM build. My battery life has gotten worse with every software update. I have NOT done a factory reset, mostly because I don't want the hassle and I still get a day off normal use with plenty of battery to spare. But I usually see 18h off charger and 3-4h SoT in a normal day, and that leaves me at 40-50% when I plug in.
Looking at your stats, if screen on costs you 6% per hour, you have 17% worth of screen on drain. That leaves 33% idle drain over 38 hours, or sightly less than 1% per hour idle. Seems pretty darn good to me.

Your cell signal is definitely not helping your battery life. Switch to 2g when on wifi, your signal bar should be full and it'll probably help your battery life.

Enjoy the fact that this phone lets you keep BT/WiFi scanning/Facebook/etc. on without having to worry whether or not you're going to make it a full day. I use all that stuff, have multiple live widgets updating, brightness at least half way, T-Mobile Digits running, and still make it a full day. Additionally, it's great to know that if you do have to make it 2-3 days with minimal usage because you don't have a charger handy, you can. However, I'm willing to bet that 99% of users are able to charge their phone daily. To those users, I say enjoy all the features and don't worry about it.

Really depends on the screen brightness...I can hit those number with my screen brightness turned down a good bit...probably around 30 percent and auto sync off...if i have brightness anywhere above 60 percent then battery life drops a good amount...still well enough to get me through a 12 hour work day but there is a difference
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