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[Q] Apps to SD Card?

So my tablet is getting pretty full(its an 8gb), and I want to move some of my apps to my 16gb sd card, but I dont know how, I tried the Apps2SD app, but it doesnt seem to work. Can anyone help me out?

No, none of the Froyo/Gingerbread utilities work with Honeycomb due to the different memory arrangement. Here is some more discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415472

Ugh okay, so I can only delete apps to make room for others?

You can back up your apps to .apks on your external sd card, using either ES File Manager or Astro. That makes it easy to delete them and later re-install them.

shadowskater555 said:
Ugh okay, so I can only delete apps to make room for others?
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Its been discussed pretty heavily in other threads, (using search will find them) just moving the app won't do a whole lot for you since the data for the app is still stored in the internal memory. I created a internal to external memory swap found in the development section to help with this problem but using a 16gb external card won't be a whole lot of extra space (although it'll still be better than the 5.7gb of space that the internal memory has for storage).

While it wont help with apps, most often its the apps data that is a problem not the app itself so I use the app GL to SD from the market
https://market.android.com/details?...t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.
You have to be rooted but I find it works great. Its designed to store game data for Gameloft games on your SD card instead of your internal memory since most of them take in the neighborhood of 800MB a piece (or more) but it works for seemingly anything.
So far it has also successfully worked for every game I have used it on including GTAIII, Sonic CD, and Galaxy on Fire 2 to name a few.
It also lets you specify custom mount points for those apps that store their data in a weird space.

[Q] Experience with 16GB Note 2 Storage and apps

Just wondering if those who are lucky enough to already have their 16GB Note 2 have had any issues downloading a high number of apps. I have a Nexus 7 16GB version, but have found that I cannot download all of my apps (roughly 200) before I get a low storage warning. It usually doesnt let me get over 100 apps downloaded, and that is with nothing else on my device. I realize the Note 2 allows an SD card, but that doesnt help with app storage.
Any thoughts from users that currently have their device would be appreciated. I'm in the US and have been waiting anxiously for quite some time for this phone to be released. Id hate to cancel my order since who knows when we will get the 32GB/63GB versions.
Thanks for any replies/information.

It's not really a big issue unless you decide to install several big games, those occupy a lot of space and then you will quickly run out with 16GB. I have quite a lot of applications installed and a handful of games and all that occupies only 2,6GB which gives me plenty of free space to use for everything else.
Then i regularly move out photographs and filmed content to my stationary computer to not clutter and slowdown my device with such content.
/ Magnus

Here's what I have experienced. This phone is a beast, most programs install instantly, I was extremely shocked and pleased. The uninstalls are even quicker.

022908ali said:
Just wondering if those who are lucky enough to already have their 16GB Note 2 have had any issues downloading a high number of apps. I have a Nexus 7 16GB version, but have found that I cannot download all of my apps (roughly 200) before I get a low storage warning. It usually doesnt let me get over 100 apps downloaded, and that is with nothing else on my device. I realize the Note 2 allows an SD card, but that doesnt help with app storage.
Any thoughts from users that currently have their device would be appreciated. I'm in the US and have been waiting anxiously for quite some time for this phone to be released. Id hate to cancel my order since who knows when we will get the 32GB/63GB versions.
Thanks for any replies/information.
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It totally depends on what apps you have.
I have 235 apps and I have about 5.8 gig remaining out of the 10.
I also have several games that use 1.5 gig EACH, and bard's tale, if you let it, can chew down 3.5 gig on its own.
You pretty much have to root if you want to run a bunch of those.
- Frank

Can anyone tell me if these types of apps can install to the SD?
With Stock? With Root?
Google Music (pin files to SD?)
Google Maps Cache
Google Play Movies
Any Gameloft Games?
Rockstar Games (GTA, Max Payne)
That is pretty much the deciding factor for my purchase of a Note 2. If its too much of a pain to actually use the SD card, I will just stick with my 32gig Gnex.

it should be a way to move apps to the sd card

There is a way, look in the development forum. You need a custom kernel and then you can "switch" your internal and external storage. The feedback is good.
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You can pin Google Music files to the external sd card so it won't take up space on the internal. I have about 25gb of music files pinned to the external card. Dunno about games as I don't have any...
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add SD to INTERNAL space possible?

ok. Here's the deal. I'd try to do this myself but I have next to no android knowledge other than how to use the things. I was going to get a 64gb card and do the ext sd swap trick I've seen on here BUT... half my hours were cut at work and I can no longer afford to get a 64gb card. I do have a 16gb in the phone now. I was hoping a way to make the phone think that 16 was part of the internal storage so I could extend the internal storage to the sd card. Does that make sense? Is this possible at all? Could anyone make it possible? If I added up the internal with my 16 that'd be 32gb which would be a nice size. I have apps in the app store that I can't install right now because of the limited 16gb (11 usable) space on my phone. I would really appreciate any help you guys could offer me in making my 16gb card work for apps along with my internal storage. Thanks so much!

Wrong section bro :/
Next time ask in Q&A section.
As for your question, as far as I know, that isn't possible. You can either use the internal or swap and use the sd card. You cannot merge both together, though.
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This does not belong in development section...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27807857
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849860
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dcninja said:
ok. Here's the deal. I'd try to do this myself but I have next to no android knowledge other than how to use the things. I was going to get a 64gb card and do the ext sd swap trick I've seen on here BUT... half my hours were cut at work and I can no longer afford to get a 64gb card. I do have a 16gb in the phone now. I was hoping a way to make the phone think that 16 was part of the internal storage so I could extend the internal storage to the sd card. Does that make sense? Is this possible at all? Could anyone make it possible? If I added up the internal with my 16 that'd be 32gb which would be a nice size. I have apps in the app store that I can't install right now because of the limited 16gb (11 usable) space on my phone. I would really appreciate any help you guys could offer me in making my 16gb card work for apps along with my internal storage. Thanks so much!
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What you're 'asking' would be to physically the hard memory of the nand chip - its not going to happen,
Best thing you could do is install what apps you could, then use something like titanium backup and batch move other apps to the sd card. Don't move widgets or any app you use as a widget to the sd card, or you lose widget functionality.
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yes yes it was posted in the wrong section, I'm sorry. It was moved to q and a so it's all good i guess...
as for my question, there's no way to join the two partitions together like you could hard drives on a computer?
if not... what is this app2sd about? If I used it would I still have my icons on the homescreens for all my apps or would it be some kind of fugly method of launching the apps on my sd card?
if I replaced my internal with my 16gb sd card would that give me a little more space since android is installed on the 16gb that the phone comes with? Currently my phone says it has 11GB usable space on the storage section... soooo if I used my 16gb would that give me 16GB usable? That'd help with my memory a little bit...
and finally... if I made the 16gb my internal... would it be possible to copy movies and emulator roms to the main phone storage since i'm using sd for apps at that point, or does that just totally negate the internal storage for everything?
sorry to ask so many questions. thanks for the help in advance. sorry about posting in the wrong section.

dcninja said:
yes yes it was posted in the wrong section, I'm sorry. It was moved to q and a so it's all good i guess...
as for my question, there's no way to join the two partitions together like you could hard drives on a computer?
if not... what is this app2sd about? If I used it would I still have my icons on the homescreens for all my apps or would it be some kind of fugly method of launching the apps on my sd card?
if I replaced my internal with my 16gb sd card would that give me a little more space since android is installed on the 16gb that the phone comes with? Currently my phone says it has 11GB usable space on the storage section... soooo if I used my 16gb would that give me 16GB usable? That'd help with my memory a little bit...
and finally... if I made the 16gb my internal... would it be possible to copy movies and emulator roms to the main phone storage since i'm using sd for apps at that point, or does that just totally negate the internal storage for everything?
sorry to ask so many questions. thanks for the help in advance. sorry about posting in the wrong section.
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This is a really confusing question. Have you filled up your internal storage with apps? If so you can extend larger apps to install on the sd card and they'll run normally, unless the app involves a widget. You should never move apps that have widgets over to the sd.
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how do I install larger apps to the sd? Also, what would the point be of switching my sd to internal storage like that one mod floating around here if I can just use the internal and install apps to my sd as well?

dcninja said:
how do I install larger apps to the sd? Also, what would the point be of switching my sd to internal storage like that one mod floating around here if I can just use the internal and install apps to my sd as well?
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Search for an app on the market called App 2 SD. There doesn't seem to be a way to do it without a 3rd party app on this phone.
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MikeWjF said:
Search for an app on the market called App 2 SD. There doesn't seem to be a way to do it without a 3rd party app on this phone.
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ya i searched for app2sd in the marketplace and they don't work. i think there's only one floating around on the forum here that works with the s3 but i hear it's real clunky too where you don't have icons on your home screen you have to open app2sd and launch some stuff from there which is just weird i dunno. I might bite the bullet and grab a 32gb card and hope that's enough...

Highly disappointed with lack of app2sd RANT

Partially my fault for not researching jellybean...just read about how smooth it was & didnt expect them to take features away. I recall reading the article about the bs reason saying people confuse the internal & external memory. U would think they wouldve learned from wp7 when they took away sd support & started being like apple. I figured it was bs article. I wasnt even planning on buying a phone but my 4g slide tapped out after a few case less drops. I was just gonna buy another mytouch since theres not much of high end qwerty selection but gn2 note caught my eye.

I was sort of mad too, but around 10gb for apps has been plenty for me when I put everything else on external memory.
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Note_2 said:
I was sort of mad too, but around 10gb for apps has been plenty for me when I put everything else on external memory.
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Im deleting apps all the time to be able to get new one.
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There has to be a way around this...

It's not that people confuse the memory. The problem is that when an app is put onto your SD card, it cannot sync correctly with the operating system. Therefore, Google is doing what they can to keep users from putting apps onto their SD cards. Hence the lack of the SD slot in Nexus devices.

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It's not that people confuse the memory. The problem is that when an app is put onto your SD card, it cannot sync correctly with the operating system. Therefore, Google is doing what they can to keep users from putting apps onto their SD cards. Hence the lack of the SD slot in Nexus devices.
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u sound like a pr rep lol...im still a android newbie but Ive never have ne problems with apps relating to my sd. If a app/game works best or only on the phones memory most developers ive came have stated up front it even back to my wm days.

I'm pissed at this too. This app2sd and the "no more free tethering" thing is pushing me over the edge to go rooted.
I'll never buy a Nexus because of their flawed philosophy that Google has adopted:
1. Non removable battery.
2. No removable storage. "Everything belongs in the Cloud" I call BS!
I've got a 64 Gb SD card that's somewhat useless if I can't install apps on it. And since only the 16 Gb versions of the Note 2 are in circulation it's very disappointing.

The ship has sailed. Google hates external storage. Don't expect to ever see official OS support for it going forward. It's irritating but reality.

I agree this is total bs. I will not buy another phone that doesnt have external sd. Had an Htc one S and I hated it for that reason. (sense is terrible also)

Hope there's an easy fix soon since I use the GN2 as my table and smartphone now. Didn't have any issues before since I had most games on my N7 but now I'm out of room

There are work arounds. But real fix as of this date.
This is Samsung following Google wishes. I just hope the GN3 will have at least 64gb of internal storage. Then we can use the SD the way Google wants SD cards used. The worst part is that many apps that download media content into your device doesn't allow to save the media content within the extSdCard. That is really annoying. Without being able to use the extSdCard as a media content storage then what does Google expect we use SD cards for?
Samsung is part in fault too. Samsung is well known to put too little storage and main memory into PPC devices. I remember my Samsung Omnia i910. I had to move so many files from the main memory into the storage memory and even into SD card. Then I had to work on other files, like the registry, ini files, etc.. to point to the files I moved. All just to get more space within the main memory for more apps. Windows OS, even Windows Mobile, added major files within the Windows directory every time you install another app that took so much room within the smallest main memory. Samsung is doing similar with GN2. 10gb is barely any room now days with Android.
Samsung needs to lead the pack all the way. SD card, large screen and large capacity of removable battery, 1.6 quad-core, 2gb RAM is not enough to lead the pack all the way. They also need to lead the pack with 1080+ res screen and 64gb+ internal storage memory. I feel that Samsung miss the "leader of the pack" mark with GN2. Samsung needs to realize they are competing against other Androids as well as iPhone.
But the blame starts at Google on app2sd issue.

Switch internal to external(sdcard)
want to have more app storage space for your HD games and what not, here’s a simple App2SD script you can use to store all of your apps on your microSD card. *This will essentially swap your internal storage with your microSD card and allow you to use up to 64GB of space (if you use 64GB microSD card).This should work on all the Galaxy Note 2, test on international GT-N7100, T-Mobile SGH-T889, and Sprint SPH-L900.
Step 1. First, you will need a rooted Galaxy Note 2. *This will work on any custom ROMs except CM10 or AOKP.
Step 2. Second, I highly recommend you to format your microSD card before using this. *Also, after formatting you can copy the contents of your internal storage to your microSD card
Step 3. Download the script on your phone: downloadandroidrom.com/file/GalaxyNote2/app2sdNote2
Step 4. Install and open Script Manager app on Play Store.
Step 5. Using Script Manager app, find the app2sd script on your microSD card and enable “SU” and “Boot”. Step 6. Reboot. *You should now see your microSD card used as internal storage and internal storage as microSD card.

Will this work with a rooted phone but with stock rom? How effective is this method?
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I've been running the storage swap script for a couple months now with no issues. I've used it on stock based roms kernel s along with custom ones as well. I'm using a 32GB fat 32 and am not sure if it supports exfat on 64 cards. Go look for it via search. It's in the sgs3 section somewhere. It's truly a lifesaver for us app/game hoarders

Ill look into that i have a 64gb card i would really like to put to use i only have 2gb available after only 4 games, do you have a link don where to get instructions and files?
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This really is more of an issue with app developers not allowing data to be stored on extsdcard. They would only need to pop up a box with options of were to store the large data files. It could look like this:
search device for sdcard implementation (/sdcard, /extsdcard, /sdacard/ext/, etc.)
pop-up box displays radio button with each storage location, really cool deb's would add option for custom location.
Set location to variable, use variable throughout program.
Just my 2 cents, I think that either this needs to occur or google require a set way of implementing internal/external SD cards.
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Root and install Directory Bind
I was disappointed too and only got 1gb left on my internal and have 64 gb almost unused mSD. So I finally decided to root my phone and install Directory Bind.
Working as intended now.

I have a post in the themes & apps forum with an app I found on the market that let's you store your game data onto an sd card.
It's called gl2sd, you can check in that forum (there's a direct link to it), or just search the market.
Not sure it supports exfat, but it's worth a quick look.
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_Dennis_ said:
This really is more of an issue with app developers not allowing data to be stored on extsdcard. They would only need to pop up a box with options of were to store the large data files. It could look like this:
search device for sdcard implementation (/sdcard, /extsdcard, /sdacard/ext/, etc.)
pop-up box displays radio button with each storage location, really cool deb's would add option for custom location.
Set location to variable, use variable throughout program.
Just my 2 cents, I think that either this needs to occur or google require a set way of implementing internal/external SD cards.
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Excellent point, friend! You always make good/useful comments and could always use more users like you.:highfive: A few minor points, I do miss move to sd option so the lack of kinda falls in line with this forced move to dropbox, cloud, lack of sd card etc. Oh sh!t don't get me started on the Nextel line these days. I have to say the manufacturers and Google are just as responsible as developers. They're all guilty really lol Besides those poor moves though, Android is doing great. I am so glad I preordered that G1 many moons ago. I guess its all who you ask I guess and sometimes we are stuck in our old ways... even us techies. Fo example, I was really stubborn about qwertys and surprisingly don't miss it. So who knows? It's either we're too stubborn to change or we don't like being told what to do.... maybe both Either way, the storage swap script works flawlessly once you set it up properly. As I mentioned earlier, not sure about 64 exfat but I'm sure you can switch it to fat 32 plus all you cm10 fans will have done this already. Hope that helps some...

I use this app to move big data files to the external sd https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp&hl=en
I also use this app to get around the "insufficient storage" error that sometimes occurs https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD

[Q] Use SD-Card as main storage?

I saw a very lengthy and complicated way to use an sdcard as the primary storage (involving scripts, etc). So here's my quick question. I have rooted my device and want t know, is there an app or something very simple I can follow so I can start installing apps onto my 64GB sdcard? Right now it's just a piece of plastic with nothing on it.
Any help would be appreciated!

I am using this app it works perfect with Samsung 64gb uhs1 sd just change dev access 179:17 https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwiZXUuY29kbGFiLmludDJleHQiXQ..

Quick questions
Thank you for the reply, I have figured it out now

Interesting - let us know if it's got any gotchas, but it looks like it may do a lot of what the scripts I put together did.

Only gotcha is...
roustabout said:
Interesting - let us know if it's got any gotchas, but it looks like it may do a lot of what the scripts I put together did.
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The only "gotcha" that this program has is as follows: If you reboot your device or power it off, you have to reapply the "fix". It doesn't know how to modify the boot rom or whatever it's called to reapply the patch. No big deal since it's literally just two clicks. One to open the app, the other click to "Apply fix".
Hope this helps someone

For me, that'd be a big gotcha - I reboot mine all the time
I took a run at setting it up and I actually found it harder to be sure of what I was doing than when I wrote the scripts but that's really just down to taste.
One thing I saw in the writeup: if you do enable init.d (scripts that run at boot time) this app can create a script which does its magic at startup.
I have a sneaking suspicion that boot scripts are going to be available to everyone pretty soon.

Use SD Card as internal memory or RAM
You can use your SD Card as an internal memory storage space by using "Link2SD" app. There is another app known as "Swapper" (Swapper2 is the latest version), by using which you can use a segment of your SD Card as your RAM.
In both the cases you actually dedicate a portion of your SD Card to use as internal memory or RAM (whatever you desire).
NOTE: In both the cases, i.e for RAM and internal memory, you first have to repartition your SD Card and for that i must recommend you to use "MiniTool Partition Wizard" app.
For more info simply ask me

Thanks for the information. MPW needs the card out of the Note I found out. Makes sense.
Minitool Partition Wizard doesn't see my Note. What am I missing?
Windows 7 64bit, GT-N5110

Thanks everyone for your contributions,
using the external microSD as RAM and/or internal storage sounds great, but.... how does it perform in real life?
I mean we all know that swapping RAM and HDD in a desktop PC isn't gonna speed up things, right?
And although it's an sd card and not an HDD it is none the less a lot slower than the built in memory I would guess.
Does somebody have solid knowledge about it? Is there an impact on app loading speeds and background OS operations?
Thank you very much in advance,
Yoko

hi! i am currently using a 64gb sandisk micro sd as my external memory. can i ask if this app works with the note 8: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.codlab.int2ext#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwiZXUuY29kbGFiLmludDJleHQiXQ
if it works, do i just follow the instructions on the description? if not, can someone give me a step by step guide? sorry, i'm new to android, it's my first time having a tablet actually, thanks!

Good sir.... that ist the app we are discussing since post #2
Regards,
Yoko

thanks! i'll try..i'll post again if i have any more questions!

Having been told by samsung customer services not to expect a larger memory device for a while, I'm jumping on this thread to explore my other options as I really had my heart set on the 32GB model. I had limited success when trying this with my ASUS Transformer but I didnt try very hard to make it work to be fair...
Once you have an app like link2sd up and running is there any limitation to what apps you can use it for? My plan is to use it with large games that would otherwise fill up the internal memory.
Are there any performance issues with doing this with large apps due to lower read and write times on a micro SD card vs the internal SD?
Are there any issues if you remove the external SD card when not running those apps (id like to review photos from my camera on my tablet while I am out and about)?
If the answer to these questions are all no, I'll likely order the 16GB tablet ASAP.

Just found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285221
Think I will go for FolderMount if I can confirm there are no issues using it with a rooted Note 8.0. Im not fussed about moving the APK files. I'm sure there will be enough room on the internal SD for those. I'll just move the data files.
I dont think there would be any benifit of using a partition of the SD card as SWAP (unless someone can correct me on this). It already has 2 GB and the SWAP will be slow due to the max read write speed of the microSD.
If all goes well I will be picking my tablet up on Sunday ready to start playing

You may want to check out this thread as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2276193
Worked wonders for me. Easy as pie.