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HTC Desire customisation

Here's my story: I am currently the proud owner of the HTC HD2 and love it, I flash custom roms on a weekly basis and just love the fact that windows mobile is endlessly customisable . I recently got playing with a friends htc magic and just fell in love with the android OS, how smooth and fast it was and the android market.
After this I am really thinking of switching to the Desire. My question is that is android customisable like windows mobile? I'm not talking about homescreen widgets. What I mean is that with windows mobile you have a Registry which you can edit. With android do you have this ability and can you install custom themes and change the task bars? Things like that.
I am new to android so please be nice
Any input would be much appreciated

I used to do the same on my Touch HD and HD2 before i sold them with the Max Manilla program, co0kiemonster's apps, and the Theme Creator mod. I would suggest you look around the Desire Themes and Apps section of the forum to see what is available. AFAIK, there are not many mods available for the Desire (yet), but there are a few (for example, see this link):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=673856
You can download apps like Helixlauncher/Helixlauncher2/Launcher2/FreedHome which allow you to customise the home screens.
Also, any modifications you want to make that requires system access will ofcourse require you to root the Desire.
Hope that helps you out a little.

Mastoid said:
I used to do the same on my Touch HD and HD2 before i sold them with the Max Manilla program, co0kiemonster's apps, and the Theme Creator mod. I would suggest you look around the Desire Themes and Apps section of the forum to see what is available. AFAIK, there are not many mods available for the Desire (yet), but there are a few (for example, see this link):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=673856
You can download apps like Helixlauncher/Helixlauncher2/Launcher2/FreedHome which allow you to customise the home screens.
Also, any modifications you want to make that requires system access will ofcourse require you to root the Desire.
Hope that helps you out a little.
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Thanks mastoid, that really has helped. I have been looking around in the forums a bit more, especially the N1 forums and I have found the ability to highly customise.
I would love to move to android soon, but do you think I should upgrade to desire or wait for a android version of the HD2. I mean the desire look amazing but i love having a screen this big and would probably miss it.

I have had winmo devices since the beginning and my job involves me securing all the major mobile devices.
my personal device was an hd2 and I have swapped to the Desire
Screensize should not be an issue as they are very similar. You will be.so impressed by the resolution.
Not having a stylus has been an issue for me ad no keyboard has been quite big enough for my fingers.
Customization skills will take some time but iv you program should be reasonable.
security is still an issue mind...
All the best Sam

dhiral.v said:
Thanks mastoid, that really has helped. I have been looking around in the forums a bit more, especially the N1 forums and I have found the ability to highly customise.
I would love to move to android soon, but do you think I should upgrade to desire or wait for a android version of the HD2. I mean the desire look amazing but i love having a screen this big and would probably miss it.
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It really is your choice matey, I had the HD2, but personally, it was a little too big for my liking and I am happy with the screen size (3.7 inches) and resolution (480 X 800 WVGA) of the Desire. It has the fresher OS (Android 2.1) which runs faster than WinMo 6.5. As the devices have similar hardware specs, the Desire can do everything the HD2 can do and more whilst doing it all faster.
It's a tough call, only you alone can decide
You can either wait for Android OS to be ported to the HD2 (even I don't know when that will be possible) or jump ship and go for the Desire.
In retrospect, I much prefer the Desire over the HD2, i'm impressed with the Android OS, much prefer it to WinMo 6.5. Its also important to consider that since WinMo 7 has been announced, support for 6.5 is waning with some developers already cancelling/stopping development of apps.
The desire seems like a much more sensible choice!

Rooted HTC Desire vs JailBreak iOS 4

hi, i'm now using a Cooked WinMO HTC Touch HD and very divided weather to go for HTC Desire or iPhone 4 .. Both has their Pro but i have only play with their default OS and seen video demos on their features..
1) ex-WinMO users, how do you bring all ur contacts, sms, calender over to HTC Desire ?
2) Does a Rooted HTC Desire has better multi-touch ? I seen a video comparing HTC Desire & Samsung Galaxy and HTC Desire seem to lose out ?
3) Are you able to play videos on FB on HTC Desire ? I have a crappy FB app on my WinMo which is useless.. hahaa
4) Any ex-iPhone JB users can share what's the pro & cons for both OS ?

doran_lum said:
hi, i'm now using a Cooked WinMO HTC Touch HD and very divided weather to go for HTC Desire or iPhone 4 .. Both has their Pro but i have only play with their default OS and seen video demos on their features..
1) ex-WinMO users, how do you bring all ur contacts, sms, calender over to HTC Desire ?
2) Does a Rooted HTC Desire has better multi-touch ? I seen a video comparing HTC Desire & Samsung Galaxy and HTC Desire seem to lose out ?
3) Are you able to play videos on FB on HTC Desire ? I have a crappy FB app on my WinMo which is useless.. hahaa
4) Any ex-iPhone JB users can share what's the pro & cons for both OS ?
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1) theres a few ways i think but ive never done it, maybe others can tell you!
2) the desire dosent have multi touch only dual touch, the iphone is better
3) yes & yes with flash in browser

Desire is the one
Hi,
I was / 'am' the biggest Apple fan out there, had all the iPhones and JB'ed all of them, thought what could be done on JB was brill....until I tried the Desire / Android which I bought because I was bored with the iPhone, expected to keep it a week and then fall back to the iPhone and sell the Android.
Well I ended up selling the iPhone and loving my Desire, everything you achieved by JB'ing the Apple you do out of the box with Android, then rooting it takes it to a whole new level of 'fiddling' and getting a config which you want.
Get the Desire, no question.

Thanks for all your reply..i'm inching closer to Desire soon ...
Just one last qns .. comparing the apps (not including games) is Desire able to match iPhone ones ?
currently on my mind i can think i need is audio translator..

I moved from WinMo (HTC Touch Pro) to a Desire. I was worried I would miss some of the WinMo functions but i dont !
Contacts copied straight across from PC using HTC Sync provided. I did miss the syncing with Outlook until i figured I could autoforward my account to a googlemail account and get the best of both worlds.
video is poor out of the box on the Desire but a quick download of Rockplayer brings it back up to (and beyond) WinMo video.
Games are much better for Android than WinMo (although maybe not yet on a par with iPhone for sheer volume of games - but how many games do you really need ??)
MS Office also worried me moving from WinMo but there are plenty of apps out there to sort you out.
All the stuff that you relied on chefs doing for you on WinMo you can do on Android just by downloading apps from the Marketplace.
Go for the Desire. I was dubious but Im now a committed Android groupie

I have an iPhone 4 (personal) and the Desire (work). If you are a casual user I would say go with the iPhone. If Facebook is a big concern I can say with confidence that the iPhone app is better.
IPhone 4 pros:
Amazing screen
Better keyboard (comparing to stock HTC sense keyboard)
Easier to use for the average user
Better battery life
Better multi-tasking (for the average user)
Desire pros:
More customization options out of the box
Better Google maps app
Better goggle integration (which I love)
I know some will disagree with me, but that is how I feel. I love both phones, and they both appeal to different parts of my personality. I think if you are not much of a tweaker then you are better off with the iPhone. Hope this helps.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

CreepingDeath said:
Better multi-tasking (for the average user)
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Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave

Answering to question 1:
I ran a google sync on the HTC Touch Pro WM phone, then when i logged in on my Desire everything just reappeared!

foxmeister said:
Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave
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Indeed i'd like to know how the heck the iOS4 can handle multitasking better than Android..!!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

foxmeister said:
Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave
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I too am curious to your thinking. One thing I noticed from my friends iPhone is that when he brings up the multitasking thing at the bottom he can scroll through everything that's running as opposed to the 8 latest apps that the android shows. But I've never actually found it to be an issue personally.
Also in relation to the OT, I have never owned a iPhone (only my currently rooted Desire) but my friend who used to have a 3G and recently chose the iPhone4 over other choices says that while he is happy with how the iPhone runs, he does kind of wish he could customise it like I can with my Desire.

AndroHero said:
1) theres a few ways i think but ive never done it, maybe others can tell you!
2) the desire dosent have multi touch only dual touch, the iphone is better
3) yes & yes with flash in browser
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WTF, the Desire does have multi touch, you must be confusing it with Xperia X10 which has dual touch instead of multi touch as sony didn't want the possibility of being sued be Apple.
It should be noted though that Apple didn't invent multi touch.

I was using Touch Diamond with custom ROM for two years, Few weeks ago I switched to android (have choosen DESIRE).
I could not made a better choice. Not yet brave enough to ROOT it )))).
Really the phone is excelent, speed and UI is great, customization possibilities are as good as I was used with WM.
Flash is also working without any problems, so is multi-touch. Even iPhone 3GS users were impressed ))))).
T.

neo158 said:
WTF, the Desire does have multi touch, you must be confusing it with Xperia X10 which has dual touch instead of multi touch as sony didn't want the possibility of being sued be Apple.
It should be noted though that Apple didn't invent multi touch.
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It is a well known fact that the Desire, unfortunatelly, doesnt have proper multi-touch. It has a somewhat refined dual-touch ability, but in games, it has some issues here and there. You can see it downloading a simple app from the market for touch testing. Thats the only thing im somewhat jealous of the other multi-touch phones (galaxy s, iphail).
But the only thing im jealous the most about the iphone is its scratch resistant screen.. that makes me cry every time i realize that our screens are made from glass only.. :/
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Let me preface this with the fact that I am running both of these devices in parallel right now. Also, I have 5 of the desires in production in our corporate network (which I am in charge of troubleshooting)
As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
This is not that case with the iPhone. Multitasking battery savings is done automatically for the average user.
I know that most people reading this are power users, so closing out of tasks is no big deal, however, this is an enormous task for the average user, and I really feel that Apple has done an awesome job with the whole multitasking idea, and have made it very easy for the average end user to use the phone.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

CreepingDeath said:
As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
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Hi,
I disagree! I do absolutely nothing to "manage" multi-tasking on my phone and suffer no problems with battery.
In contrast, the vast majority of iPhone apps don't multi-task at all anyway, so I can't see how it can be better.
Regards,
Dave

CreepingDeath said:
Let me preface this with the fact that I am running both of these devices in parallel right now. Also, I have 5 of the desires in production in our corporate network (which I am in charge of troubleshooting)
As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
This is not that case with the iPhone. Multitasking battery savings is done automatically for the average user.
I know that most people reading this are power users, so closing out of tasks is no big deal, however, this is an enormous task for the average user, and I really feel that Apple has done an awesome job with the whole multitasking idea, and have made it very easy for the average end user to use the phone.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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The iPhone's method of showing what apps are running is nicer and it is a pain to have to download an app just to see what is running on your phone. But on the Desire you don't actually have to go closing everything. Apps running in the background do not drain battery while sitting idle. Using apps like Advanced Task Killer should really only be used to close problem apps, not to constantly shutdown everything that is running.

Nosrulz said:
The iPhone's method of showing what apps are running is nicer and it is a pain to have to download an app just to see what is running on your phone. But on the Desire you don't actually have to go closing everything. Apps running in the background do not drain battery while sitting idle. Using apps like Advanced Task Killer should really only be used to close problem apps, not to constantly shutdown everything that is running.
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As of 2.2 we have a "sort-a" built in task killer so no need for 3rd party stuff... as for your other claim, indeed the apps dont drain battery at all (well..not as much..) so i really dont get it when people say that background apps drain battery and what else.. i dont have any battery drainage whatsoever, and if i dont use wifi at all, my battery can last 2 days easily...
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htc hd3 design, revealed/pictures (exclusive specs)

here it is he hd7 that a lot of people have been waiting for!
i got this from wmpoweruser & engadget enjoy, do you like the design or not?
what about the 8gb internal memory?? is this a prototype? Hope so
pictures
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/htc-hd7-pictured-and-specced-by-rumormongers-trying-to-outdo-one/
here are the full specs guys
http://wmpoweruser.com/exclusive-htc-hd7-full-specs-revealed-confirms-t-mobile-usa-aws-support/

And the F network at school blocks wmpoweruser because of some random reason

Essentially a retooled Supersonic/EVO. At least on the outside.

Tom Servo said:
Essentially a retooled Supersonic/EVO. At least on the outside.
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buzzer noise
a retooled hd2 but 4.3 in screen I'm loving it but if it looks the same dows it mean it has the same specs? further is this the thing we've been waiting for to run wp7 on the hd2?

I would like to see ...
real pictures of the device, specifications (committed) with dualcore snapdragon and at least 16gb flash memory ... and a link to pre-order

Looks very similar to the HD2, and this is a good thing, considering that (for me) the HD2 is one of the most beautiful phones in the market. Let's hope for good specs also.
But I think I will skip Windows Phone 7, really. I don't like the Metro UI, too minimal for my tastes and it wastes a lot of screen real-estate in the home. Also I'm not very fond of C# as a language / platform. I really prefer Java. And I don't know if I could survive with the new limitations the system gives. I have always loved Windows Mobile for its flexibility and, for me, Windows Phone 7 could be the new iPhone competitor, but not the right upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5.
When I look at a phone operating system, I look at:
1) Flexibility.
2) Feature rich.
3) Opennes.
4) C/C++/Java support.
Actually, only Symbian^3 seems to achieve these 4 goals (with an eye to Meego). Other systems seems to be developed with the casual user in mind, Android included. I'll wait patiently for Windows Phone 8 hoping for a new level of flexibility, expecially in programming support. I don't want to be forced in using proprietary tools / platforms and, in 2011 and over, I really hope Microsoft will pay a f*ucking license for Java Embedded. Really good news from the JavaOne this year.

Kinda looks like my HD3 concept

this is not HD7
its HTC Desire HD
here's some clue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHO9A9Zf5g8

looks ok...i still prefer android over wmobile, never making the switch back!

Quick question, what phone was the hd6?

too bad
Beautiful hardware. Too bad it's so locked down, limmited and crippled by WiPhone7.

It is very much the Desire HD. By the way... I called my local O2 Dealer here in Germany. He told me that the HD7 will very likely have the specifications as the Desire HD.
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gaijin1% said:
Beautiful hardware. Too bad it's so locked down, limmited and crippled by WiPhone7.
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You're an idiot.

gaijin1% said:
Beautiful hardware. Too bad it's so locked down, limmited and crippled by WiPhone7.
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From a tweakers point of view it is and I agree. From a casual users point of view it is far from being crippled as you so dramatically put it.

accessing said:
Quick question, what phone was the hd6?
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there is no HD6, this is basically the HD3, they named it HD7 because it is running WP7, so they gave it the 7 to match

gaijin1% said:
Beautiful hardware. Too bad it's so locked down, limmited and crippled by WiPhone7.
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This guy's talking like he's been using WP7 for a long time and is actually able to compare the lockdown'endes of this operating system... What OS would you like to free this phone with Marty McFly?
The comments on here make me just shake my head sometimes...

Actually, it is indeed a real Windows Phone 7 (though it looks a lot like the HD2/Desire HD):
http://windowsphone7central.com/pages/index.php/htchd7
And it is titled the HD3 on that device, but it may be a carrier branding preference.

Jaxbot said:
Actually, it is indeed a real Windows Phone 7 (though it looks a lot like the HD2/Desire HD):
http://windowsphone7central.com/pages/index.php/htchd7
And it is titled the HD3 on that device, but it may be a carrier branding preference.
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Why did they give it the 8250 and not the newer 8255 like the Desire HD?!?!?!?!? The rumors must be wrong, giving a device with the greatest gaming capabilities an old crap 8250 when there is a much better 8255 is retarded.

Mr.Sir said:
Why did they give it the 8250 and not the newer 8255 like the Desire HD?!?!?!?!? The rumors must be wrong, giving a device with the greatest gaming capabilities an old crap 8250 when there is a much better 8255 is retarded.
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Considering that WP7 appears to run much faster than Android on comparitive hardware (thanks to not having Sense and all other sorts of HTC's UI "enhancements"), do you really need anything more powerful than a Snapdragon?
I'm more worried about the 8 GB of internal memory

lordcanti86 said:
Considering that WP7 appears to run much faster than Android on comparitive hardware (thanks to not having Sense and all other sorts of HTC's UI "enhancements"), do you really need anything more powerful than a Snapdragon?
I'm more worried about the 8 GB of internal memory
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I dont want the extraa CPU power, I want the 4x better GPU and lower power consumption.
Graphics on adroid are the same as on wp7, which means Adreno 200 is still crap compared to adreno 205.

Wp7 roms

Hello xda fellows,i wanna buy a wp7 phone but i will like to feel the user experience for some weeks b4 buying it so i would u guys if u know of a custom rom of the real wp7 phone.I've tried laucher 7 and wp7 rom on the desire forum,but they aren't the real thing with live tiles.So if u know of a rom that has cool feature of wp7 phone reply me

try metro ui from the market, or better yet, ask the guys over at wp7 section. they will give you a better indication.

WP7 looks really good. Im just using the WP7 rom thing.

sleekykenny said:
Hello xda fellows,i wanna buy a wp7 phone but i will like to feel the user experience for some weeks b4 buying it so i would u guys if u know of a custom rom of the real wp7 phone.I've tried laucher 7 and wp7 rom on the desire forum,but they aren't the real thing with live tiles.So if u know of a rom that has cool feature of wp7 phone reply me
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Buy a new windows phone.

dcbakkk said:
Buy a new windows phone.
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...or install Launcher7 - it's free and has many features of the original wp7 launcher... Ppl say it's fast although)
And the question of "wp7 on Bravo" is mostly the question of "making proper bootloader for wp7 on Bravo" - those guys with HD2 (which has almost equal HW) already resolved that for their phone...

I've got a Mozart, it was a replacement sent to me from HTC direct, in virtually as new condition. It has no SIM lock and I have loaded different ROMs onto it, running the very latest Mango (with Tango features apparently and code from the HTC Titan too).
Runs great, you can buy it off me if you like- I've decided to stick with Android for now, needed a bigger phone for my fat fingers and the bigger WP7 phones aren't as good as the Mozart as far as Radio performance etc goes.
Tried the Titan and others and I still think the Mozart is the best, easy to put an SD card into (takes 10 mins, takes up 32gb) very high quality sound card/DAC, great camera (especially after firmware updates) particularly because the Xenon flash is better I think- better white balance etc, they don't put them in phones anymore because they are too expensive, the Nokia N8 had one for instance but N9 doesn't.

[Q] Planning to buy HTC One X- beginner questions

Hello!
I'm new to the forums and Android. Right now, I'm an owner of an iPhone 3GS.
I'm getting a new phone because I'm sick of all the lagging and Apple may not create apps/games for my old 3GS anymore.
Now, to my questions.
1. Does One X lag (even a little) when browsing internet, playing games or even in Android.
2. I plan on getting the EU version, which should be 32GB and quadcore(not really a question, just claryfing).
3. Can I root ANY version of One X?
4. Should I root? What are the advantages and disadvantages?
5. How does the Flash Player work? Can I like play online games which require flash player?
6. Should I buy a case, if yes, which? I was using iSkin on my 3GS, but they dont make one for HTCs.
7. Will I be able to install ANY version of Android which comes out?
8. I want a top-end smartphone. Is there some kind of app/game that One X cant run?
Thanks in advance!

Ciclop said:
Hello!
I'm new to the forums and Android. Right now, I'm an owner of an iPhone 3GS.
I'm getting a new phone because I'm sick of all the lagging and Apple may not create apps/games for my old 3GS anymore.
Now, to my questions.
1. Does One X lag (even a little) when browsing internet, playing games or even in Android.
2. I plan on getting the EU version, which should be 32GB and quadcore(not really a question, just claryfing).
3. Can I root ANY version of One X?
4. Should I root? What are the advantages and disadvantages?
5. How does the Flash Player work? Can I like play online games which require flash player?
6. Should I buy a case, if yes, which? I was using iSkin on my 3GS, but they dont make one for HTCs.
7. Will I be able to install ANY version of Android which comes out?
8. I want a top-end smartphone. Is there some kind of app/game that One X cant run?
Thanks in advance!
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I'm no expert so will try and answer your questions to the best of my knowledge.
1. I've had my One X for a couple of months and am more than happy, I'm still on 1.29 Orange UK and browsing and games are pretty good, I've no complaints anyway. I believe some people said phone got better with the 2.17 update.
2. There is a thread about a 16GB version, I think someone got one from dialaphone UK, just double check.
3. I'm pretty sure you can root any version, but might have a little wait if newer FW comes out. Someone with more knowledge might be able to confirm this better.
4 Root is just like jailbreak on Iphone, I always root mine so I can delete all stuff I dont want.
5. I don't play online games but flash works for me, I watch football at work at night.
6. Case is entirely your choice.
7. Who knows? but I assume we'll be able OK for a couple of years (updates).
8. Some people might have problems with some apps they use, mine work fine.
Hope this helps you a bit. Overall I'm more than happy with my HOX. I had a Galaxy S2 then went to the Sony Xperia S for a few weeks and then onto the HOX

I would wait for the one x+ that's got a bigger screen 1.7ghz tegra 3 and lte
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

If your rooting plan is to upgrade to the latest version of android...eg jellybean, beat in mind that flash is no longer supported, thus harder to install and update
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Looks like I'll wait for the HTC One X+, the release date should be in early October.

joewong1991 said:
I would wait for the one x+ that's got a bigger screen 1.7ghz tegra 3 and lte
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Bigger screen? Like 0.1" bigger to match the s3 ?
Doesn't need a bigger screen bigger battery would be better.
To op, beauty of android means that you can complie any android and port it to any device.
So yeah newer versions of android should be updated by HTC or Xda.
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Uhm, I think I've read somewhere that the HOX+ should have 4.5'' screen?

Hox+ should be the same as the One X but with quad and lte. I don't think they will downsize the screen.
If you need lte then go for the One X+ if you don't then go with the international One X as the development is better than any other variant as of the moment.
Official jelly bean is due very soon rumours early as next month so it'll get even better!
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

5inc screen and a replaceable battery I think it sounds really good they say they fixed all the problems we had with this one
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Well, now I've found out about HTC One XXL which should have 2GB RAM and 1.6GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon, so yeah, I might even wait for that one...
Guess I'll just wait and see when One X+ and One XXL comes out and I'll decide.