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I find it unacceptable that a Linux based operating system has so much difficulty connecting/mounting to the most popular Linux package out there (ubuntu). After 3 hours of searching and trying different methods I gave up. Was doing it remotely for a friend in a different state but I doubt that made a difference. Am I missing an easy fix here? I don't want to use androids or whatever that app is. Also gMtp won't allow any transfer gives errors.
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Am I missing an easy fix here?
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Source is available, fix it.
loveubuntu said:
I find it unacceptable that a Linux based operating system has so much difficulty connecting/mounting to the most popular Linux package out there (ubuntu). After 3 hours of searching and trying different methods I gave up. Was doing it remotely for a friend in a different state but I doubt that made a difference. Am I missing an easy fix here? I don't want to use androids or whatever that app is. Also gMtp won't allow any transfer gives errors.
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Agreed. However, I found that this method worked for me.
There seems to be an issue with copying over an existing file on the android device which throws an error, but if you delete the file on the phone first, then copy all is good.
Not ideal, but a whole lot better than I was expecting!
Hope this helps.
-Barry
I've never liked the idea of USB transfers, plugging in cables is too much like manual labor
You can install an SSH server on your phone and then use sshfs on your PC to connect to it. The real bonus is it's a much better way to get to a terminal on your phone as well.
For really large files you can also transfer using a USB memory stick with the right cable and software.
I barely ever plug my phone in. I use both airdroid and filexpert (both in market) to do web or http file transfers!
Just my preference.
barryflanagan said:
Agreed. However, I found that this method worked for me.
There seems to be an issue with copying over an existing file on the android device which throws an error, but if you delete the file on the phone first, then copy all is good.
Not ideal, but a whole lot better than I was expecting!
Hope this helps.
-Barry
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link is dead. Also, I don't understand the remedy. Erase the file from the phone? I'm trying to copy it to the phone and have no success. Thanks for your reply.
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I barely ever plug my phone in. I use both airdroid and filexpert (both in market) to do web or http file transfers!
Just my preference.
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OTA file transfer is fine but requires unlimited data plan. I'm looking for an old fashioned usb connection. I never thought I'd say this but I am just about to "miss" Gingerbread.
Put the device in Camera (PTP) mode and it works fine. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only drawback is that you can't transfer files over 4GB?
I see you're running Ubuntu, try this if the above method doesn't work well for you: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-easily-mount-the-galaxy-nexus-on-ubuntu-11-10-via-unity/
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Put the device in Camera (PTP) mode and it works fine. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only drawback is that you can't transfer files over 4GB?
I see you're running Ubuntu, try this if the above method doesn't work well for you: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-easily-mount-the-galaxy-nexus-on-ubuntu-11-10-via-unity/
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That seems to be a popular method but was not successful. I was doing it remotely for a friend and will do it again when I see him next month.
Also, the PTP appears not to show the whole 32 GB partition. I can't be sure since I was working on it via teamviewer and did not have my hand on the phone.
I agree with the OP that this is a PITA. In the past I have done the majority of my transfers to my phone via wifi anyway, but transferring HD video to the phone would be considerably faster via a wired connection. I admit that I did not try to hard to get it working after the first few times (most tutorials on the web seem focused on 11.10 and I use 10.04), and have just resorted to wifi transfers.
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fyi it worked for me only partially - I can get files off my GN but not on to it - nautilus hung when I tried it
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Also, the PTP appears not to show the whole 32 GB partition. I can't be sure since I was working on it via teamviewer and did not have my hand on the phone.
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MTP and PTP both show only the contents of sdcard/media I suspect this is intended to stop end users breaking their phone.
I've moved to airdroid - it needs to have the computer and the phone on the same wireless network and uses that network, it doesn't use a carrier so shouldn't use any of your data allowance.
I agree it's suboptimal but no-one here is responsible for the decision to make the GN without a fat32 partition.
HeyItsLou has some good for getting MTP working on 11.10. He's pulled the updated source from the 12.04 repos and has a nice tutorial for getting it working. http://ohheyitslou.blogspot.com/2011/12/galaxy-nexus-enable-mtp-file-transfer.html
damn, just use adb push already. or like someone said, a ssh server on the phone. edit config to limit only to a known ip or mac address,
or even better, ask for help in google groups, or check aosp bug tracker. 3hrs to solve or reach a conclusion is nothing.
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It is indeed a big mess. I found a tutorial for using it with Fedora here: http://blog.offenders.org/?p=101 (I can't post links yet...)
It involves recompiling the mtpfs drivers, and it still doesn't work 100%.
I've also tried doing a 'reverse tether', i.e. connecting the USB cable and selecting 'Settings/More/Tethering.../USB tethering'. Then (if you run an SSH server on the phone) you can connect using SSH over the USB cable.
Unfortunately it's still a bit clunky, and I frequently find myself connecting to a Windows machine instead, just to avoid the trouble.
Adb push would be OK for me but this is for those I've setup with ubuntu and preached a no "windows" world to. I'll try the airdroid for him but we need a simpler solution. I usually setup these computers as a dual boot of xp/vista/7 and ubuntu 11.04. I guess as it was suggested is better to boot into Windows transfer the files and then get out. Ughhh
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HeyItsLou has some good for getting MTP working on 11.10. He's pulled the updated source from the 12.04 repos and has a nice tutorial for getting it working. http://ohheyitslou.blogspot.com/2011/12/galaxy-nexus-enable-mtp-file-transfer.html
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I tried this, but I got some errors saying that it couldn't find the packages at the beginning of his blog post. I tried continuing on (since I saw that I had the packages installed)... the really odd thing is that once in mounts (eventually) and I go into my Nexus folder, the only folder I see is Playlists, and that folder is empty.
EDIT: I got this working. I had to track down the packages and download them to a local folder and install from there. Then I rebooted and ran Lou's script again. I'm seeing all my folders now. If you JUST see "Playlists" it means you don't have the right packages.
Hi guys - long time lurker, first time poster.
My question is, does anyone have any little grievances with the stock note II software? I've owned android devices before, but ditched them for iOS a year or so ago, back when android was still a hot mess. I definitely believe it's caught up to iOS in terms of stability, performance, and smoothness. I finally feel like android is finally finished enough where I'm ready to take the plunge and pick up a note II.
Things that have driven me mad from previous android phones: audio lag / stuttering, stock software crashing/stuttering, the phone not stopping your music when you pull the headphone plug and blasting audio (even for a half second) through the speaker, stupid pop-up boxes that inform you you've either started or completed charging, etc. etc. etc.
Lazy, stupid developer decisions like this drive me absolutely mad and make me leave a platform that I otherwise consider superior. I want to be happy with stock until a stable CM10 comes out.
Therefore, is there anything like this that happens with the stock note II at all? Thanks - on the fence!
You no longer get a pop up window verifying charging is complete, you do get a notification in the Status Bar though - either connected or finsed.
Audio Lag / stuttering hasnt been around for a while, I remember that in the OG Droid but havnt seen it in along time, I guarantee you that you wont find anything to stutter up the note.
Depending on the application, audio will stop when headphones are removed. Pandora / Stock Music Player / Netflix.. HBO Go - Xfinity - CineM all continue to play when unplugged. " hope that helps"
Battery Life on the Note 2 will blow away any other device out there outside possibly the Razr Maxx "Havnt compared"
Random System crashes are non existent on this device, especialy if you stay stock. Of course going with any customer ROM you can expect something .. I devvelop roms and I promise you, there is ALWAYS room for error, however with that being said, there is always room for error on stock as well.
Overall, I can see why you may have left Android in the beggining, however I will say that Android 4.1 is buttery smooth and I have not experienced any issues as of yet. I am a power user from he** and cant throw enouhg at my phone yet.
oddly enough my biggest complaint with the note II is that it is harder to "share" stuff than on the S3.
on the S3 you have a little SHARE symbol and next to it you have a "default" service that takes you directly into that (and its separate for different media types so youtube is default for example for sharing video)
just tap that and boom your sharing. but on the note II this is gone. you have to tap the share icon and OF COURSE the ones I use imgur and youtube are all the way at the bottom so I have to scroll down and THEN select where I want to share it too. this is surprisingly annoying now that I know "IT CAN" be much easier.
I REALLY want that quick access default icon from the S3 on my Note II. badly.
Here is the Note II see where it says Share Via - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - but on the S3 it looks like this
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
-
Video calling seems to be broken
I have noticed that I cannot make video calls with the apps that I've tried. Neither Skype or Fring work on the Note 2. By work I mean I can see the video from the other person, but they cannot see me. Interestingly Google+ hangouts did work, and I have yet to try tango.
I did reproduce the error on an in store Note 2, so I don't think it's just my phone. I'm just running stock rom, not even rooted. It doesn't work over 3g or wifi. I tried connecting to an iphone 4s and a galaxy s III, I could see both of them they could not see me.
I would also like to gripe about the "buddy" pages. I want to be able to edit the icons in that bottom row to be more useful for my purposes. In the headphones buddy page I want to add my video apps, and they do show up over time but it varies based on what I'm using most often. I want to choose to set them.
I have been able to run Skype. I did it as a test as I don't normally and all was fine.
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I have been able to run Skype. I did it as a test as I don't normally and all was fine.
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Did you do a video call on skype? I can voice chat fine, it's the video that doesn't work.
2 grievancies that have been noted but no solutions that I'm aware of!
First is the poor commumication between the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (AFTER ROOT) and my PC. I always get Hardware ID Missing which in turn makes it hard to transfer files from my computer to my phone and vice versa since the PC won't recgnize the phone,
and,
Second, is that I can't view my photos as photos from my phone on my PC. My PC goes into the DCIM or photo folders but can't just load the pictures. I must click on each JPG icon to see what the picture is.
I wish that someone would come up with a program that can be a mass storage transfer instead of the MTP.
So far, everything I have seen with this MTP is not good at all.
THOSE are MY grievences!
its worse that that wascapsfan
first your root issue is a new one. I rooted mine ZERO issues with hardware id stuff ?? so something is hinky on your end
back to the pictures YES the MTP protocol is truly horrible. you have ZERO file access on the device. NONE. 100% of all actions result in the file having to be COPIED to the PC first before you can even so much as look at it. no thumbnails no live view NOTHING
this is not a note II issues its a samsung issue with Jellybean and its horrible.
You can't even MOVE files on the SD card. it has to copy them to the PC and then copy them back to the card. takes a freaking eternity and it hard core sucks. big time.
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First is the poor commumication between the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (AFTER ROOT) and my PC. I always get Hardware ID Missing which in turn makes it hard to transfer files from my computer to my phone and vice versa since the PC won't recgnize the phone,
and,
Second, is that I can't view my photos as photos from my phone on my PC. My PC goes into the DCIM or photo folders but can't just load the pictures. I must click on each JPG icon to see what the picture is.
I wish that someone would come up with a program that can be a mass storage transfer instead of the MTP.
So far, everything I have seen with this MTP is not good at all.
THOSE are MY grievences!
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I initially had the Hardware ID error when connecting my phone to my Windows 7 PC as well. I am not rooted, for the record. As odd as this sounds, I solved the problem by removing the drivers for the phone from the PC. After that, it connected fine.
I will add, though, that the drivers are still installed on my work laptop (because I need adb drivers to tether) and it connects just fine to that. All this combined leads me to believe that it is a driver conflict error with some of the other drivers/files on my home PC. I could probably narrow down where the exact cause is, but I just don't care enough to do it since I have found a usable workaround for my situation.
If you still need ADB drivers, I would still suggest uninstalling and seeing if the phone is recognized without the drivers. Could just be a bad install of the drivers, which is something that happens when you use Windows.
On the subject of MTP, I have to agree that I would like to be able to preview photos as well. While I can move them freely (not sure why you wouldn't be able to), not having previews is mildly annoying. It isn't as convenient as seeing the previews in Explorer, but going to the folder, hitting Ctrl-A, and selecting Preview from the context menu at least lets me see the pictures without having to copy them to the computer.
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its worse that that wascapsfan
first your root issue is a new one. I rooted mine ZERO issues with hardware id stuff ?? so something is hinky on your end
back to the pictures YES the MTP protocol is truly horrible. you have ZERO file access on the device. NONE. 100% of all actions result in the file having to be COPIED to the PC first before you can even so much as look at it. no thumbnails no live view NOTHING
this is not a note II issues its a samsung issue with Jellybean and its horrible.
You can't even MOVE files on the SD card. it has to copy them to the PC and then copy them back to the card. takes a freaking eternity and it hard core sucks. big time.
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I'm still not understanding the Hardware ID missing thing. I had my first SGN2 for 13 days and it had this trouble only AFTER I rooted. It was fine and had not one issue prior. I gave it back and Sprint gave me another one. No issues UNTIL I rooted.
Install the drivers, then remove the drivers, then reinstall the drivers, etc..... It's not me, I know that is for sure.
Trust me you CAN NOT move them "freely" you just THINK you are moving them.
when you move a few photo's you don't even notice. trying moving 9gigs of photo's and let me know how it goes.
when you MOVE a file in MTP you not MOVING it. the process is like this.
it copies the file from the phone to your computer.
Deletes the file on the phone.
Copies the file from the computer back to the phone
deletes the file on the computer.
this is why MOVING 9 gigs from one folder to another (which should take 1-5 seconds tops) takes the same time as copying 18gigs. because it has to do it TWICE. so in essence it really IS moving 18 gigs. (same files twice)
this means you CAN NOT "access" any files ON the MTP device "live" it has to copy them to the PC first before you can "interact" with them beyond properties or renaming.
its an absolutely HORRID interface.
you can not even LOOK at a picture on the device you have to COPY it to the PC first. when you access a file its just DOING this for you in the background without you knowing it.
you finally "know it" when you try to perform an operation that should take 5 second and it takes 41 minutes. (move mp3's from one folder to another)
this also means using the phone as a drive is no longer feasible. I used to plug the phone into the computer and PLAY a video from the phone on my laptop screen (using the phone as a usb drive) and at the same time I get a charge.
now I can't even do that I have to COPY the file TO the computer first and THEN watch it.
At least you Windows people can somewhat access your files. On both my Macs neither my SIII or NoteII are recognized in any shape or form. I have to use a wifi explorer app, or unmount and stick my sd directly in the comp. Dunno why they changed from Universal Mass Storage which worked completely fine...
cause they are MORONS. no other reason is valid in my book. morons.
I have the hardware ID error too. From what I've read about it, people are seeing that after installing the Samsung drivers from ToolKit prior to rooting.
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Trust me you CAN NOT move them "freely" you just THINK you are moving them.
when you move a few photo's you don't even notice. trying moving 9gigs of photo's and let me know how it goes.
when you MOVE a file in MTP you not MOVING it. the process is like this.
it copies the file from the phone to your computer.
Deletes the file on the phone.
Copies the file from the computer back to the phone
deletes the file on the computer.
this is why MOVING 9 gigs from one folder to another (which should take 1-5 seconds tops) takes the same time as copying 18gigs. because it has to do it TWICE. so in essence it really IS moving 18 gigs. (same files twice)
this means you CAN NOT "access" any files ON the MTP device "live" it has to copy them to the PC first before you can "interact" with them beyond properties or renaming.
its an absolutely HORRID interface.
you can not even LOOK at a picture on the device you have to COPY it to the PC first. when you access a file its just DOING this for you in the background without you knowing it.
you finally "know it" when you try to perform an operation that should take 5 second and it takes 41 minutes. (move mp3's from one folder to another)
this also means using the phone as a drive is no longer feasible. I used to plug the phone into the computer and PLAY a video from the phone on my laptop screen (using the phone as a usb drive) and at the same time I get a charge.
now I can't even do that I have to COPY the file TO the computer first and THEN watch it.
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Not to derail the thread, but aren't there two easy potential workarounds for this?
1. Use Dropbox/Goggle+, enable automatic upload of camera shots. Photos will be available instantly on home computer. Yes, you're not manipulating the phone images directly, but you've got direct access to copies of the files.
2. Save photos to SD card, pull card and put in card reader. Direct access to files.
True, accessing via USB cable would be nice alternative to have, but it's not like we don't have options.
Grievances with the stock OS ROM/software:
-Intentional gimping of the multiwindow menu by Samsung. Damn it I should be able to put any app I want to in that menu. Plain and simple. Most work in multiwindow just fine. Further, that damn toggle should have transparency be default...NOTHING more annoying than reading something and having text obscured due to idiotic UI.
-Intentional gimping of stock Touchwiz to forbid any selection/addition/subtraction of quick controls in the status bar. NO reason for it. Zero zip nada.
-Kies software. Neat idea. Works pretty well...but gawd, why did they have to build it on the steaming pile of insecure poo known as Java? I would love to permanently delete Java off my computer and Kies is the one reason I have to keep it.
-Gimping of AllShare etc to prevent non-stock ROMs from using media hubs etc. No reason for it. I don't have a hub or use one...but I hate gimping by design.
-Sammy Appstore is all but pointless as of now...there's nothing on it worth it eating space on my device.
-Sprint Connection Optimizer is also crap IMHO.
In the grand scheme of things these are somewhat minor complaints.
Well, lets see?, .....no, no grievances.
For those having issues with the Hardware ID error, I did thread on a partial solution: Linky. Unfortunately, it doesn't give access for ADB, but good enough to access the microSD for file transfers
I haven't had any OS crashes or random reboots. I think I had one boot loop. I did have an issue with the 4-1 power menu with a reboot, but it was a known issue
Overall, the stock firmware is very stable and solid.
I don't have any complaints. Although, S-pen applications are quite limited. Not surprising since this is only the second device with it. Throw in that styluses aren't exactly common in use on the Android platform, or mobile in general. I assume more will come later.
Battery life is good considering the screen size. The only time I'm burning through battery is when I use an MHL adapter, which is a lot at work.
The nice thing, since this phone is on all the major carriers, plus an international version, we'll probably see quite a bit from the developer community.
So I don't get my note 2 until January, but regarding the inability to see files when connected with USB... had anybody tried the app Software Data Cable?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lyy.softdatacable
I haven't had to connect either my phone (OG Evo) or my wife's (galaxy s2) in months.
Grievances? Yes, R.I.P. Apple.
Do you also get long freeze when you try to rename file or folder on the phone or sdcard when using MTP mode? I have measured this and from the moment I press enter to confirm filename change to the moment that window unfreezes it takes 5 minutes 37 seconds. Then folder name changes and it works for another folder too... Sometimes it doesn't work for the next few filename changes but finally it's starting to work correctly.
I've reinstalled my mtp and samsung adb drivers and removed anti-virus from the pc.
What's also very weird is that you can create folders without freezing, as long as you don't change the names (like New Folder or New Folder (1) etc.)
What could be causing this?
I'm on Windows 8 x64.
Yea happens with me too. I just get tired of waiting and instead create or edit the folder on the phones file.explorer. Not a solution but I'd like.to.know what can be done to.resolve this too.
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This seems to happen on pretty much any device/ROM/OS combo I've tried. This is the #1 reason MTP should die in a ditch.
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This seems to happen on pretty much any device/ROM/OS combo I've tried. This is the #1 reason MTP should die in a ditch.
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Hey i was wondering if you could mount the internal memory through recovery on the Note 2? Ive tried with both TWRP and CWM but no luck.
Same.
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I got same problem, any solution yet?
Also happens on my Galaxy S2 which now runs stock jellybean, so at least it's not Note specific. Could be jellybean specific though...
I'm having this issue on both my Galaxy S4 and Nexus 7 (1st Gen).
Has anyone found a solution yet?
I'm having this issue on both my Galaxy S4 and Nexus 7 (1st Gen).
Has anyone found a solution yet?
Same problem on S3 and Windows 8.1 x64
This has happened to me on ANY device using ANY rom on ANY version of Windows.
Pretty sure it's unsolvable.
Ah good I am not the only one with the stupid problem. Takes me about a minute to rename a folder.
Windows 8.1 x64
Might try it in Ubuntu see if it happens there
I thought my sd card was faulty...........
Having the same problem. In fact, it is just not possible to modify a file or folder name in MTP Protocol and it has been defined in that way.
"The MTP and PTP standards do not support direct modification of objects. Modified objects must be copied out of the device and reuploaded in their entirety"
Source: Wikipedia
same for me, i do have problems even if i have to copy/paste something.
This has to be a configuration issue in windows.
I am only saying this because my brother just bought himself a nexus 5.
I also have a nexus 5
If i rename any file / folder through MTP on my Nexus 5, explorer will hang for about 5 minutes then it will magically just do it.
this can get tedious if there is a large amount that needs doing
if i plug my brothers nexus 5 into the same port with the same USB cable and rename a folder on his device.
It works instantly.
No hang or lockups
I have checked through the registry entries for both devices and they appear identical, except of course the ID numbers
so this is what has me stumped.
we both have the same phone.
running the same ROM
using the same cable
connecting to the same USB port
his works perfectly
mine locks up if renaming anything
WTF?
Was googling about for these symptoms, and I too have them on Windows 8.1 x86_64.
These same symptoms occur with both my Galaxy Nexus and ASUS Transformer Pad, whereas back on Windows 7 on my other laptop, this never happened...
Agreed with whomever posted that MTP should just die. I'd rather mount/unmount like in the good old days. At least that way, the filesystem was current, fast and reliable, and Windows wasn't asking me if I really REALLY wanted to copy that MP3 file to the phone...
*sigh*
(Edit: Well, on one hand, I really wish MTP would die, but on the other hand, I fear that the only "reasonable" alternative to it would be an iTunes-like application that would sit on top of adb and copy files back and forth, and not needing iTunes-like applications is one of the many reasons I'd rather go with Android devices...)
+1 googling about for these symptoms, Windows 8.1 x64 , galaxy s4 i9505 here.........
happens on mtp and ptp too, like someone said if I do not rename the folder, the folder "new folder" is instantly created, as I try to rename a file or folder, I have to wait 2 to 5 minutes for the operation to complete succesfully. Arrrrggghhh......
Never had this problem before buying the s4 on any android phones I had (dozens....but this is my first samsung)
Also happening on my Note 3. Samsung support told me to reset it to factory defaults. It didn't help.
Windows 8.1 x64.
Same issue for me too on Sprint Galaxy S5 running 8.1 64 bit. Never had this issue with my S3 on Windows 7. WTF.
I know it's early on but I rooted my Samsung galaxy tab 8.4 and I am trying to do a backup of my apps and I cant do a backup to my external sd card. TB is saying it isn't writeable. I have used the back button and such to manually change the directory. I'm familiar with doing that. I can backup to internal storage but obviously I don't want to waste the space when I have a 64gb micro sd card. Thanks for the help.
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I know it's early on but I rooted my Samsung galaxy tab 8.4 and I am trying to do a backup of my apps and I cant do a backup to my external sd card. TB is saying it isn't writeable. I have used the back button and such to manually change the directory. I'm familiar with doing that. I can backup to internal storage but obviously I don't want to waste the space when I have a 64gb micro sd card. Thanks for the help.
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I can confirm the same issue. I've verified that the root directory is set to R/W using "Root Explorer" from the play store. For some reason, I can't get TB to see it as R/W, though.
Saving other items to the external card seems to work just fine. Camera saves there, no issues. Weird.
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I can confirm the same issue. I've verified that the root directory is set to R/W using "Root Explorer" from the play store. For some reason, I can't get TB to see it as R/W, though.
Saving other items to the external card seems to work just fine. Camera saves there, no issues. Weird.
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It will get figured out soon enough. im just happy to be able to do a titanium backup. Lots of work installing stuff
I couldn't even create a Nova backup to the external SD card
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I couldn't even create a Nova backup to the external SD card
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It is a 4.4 permissions issue. I found a possible fix if it works I will post it.
This worked for me. You have to be rooted to do it though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
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It is a 4.4 permissions issue. I found a possible fix if it works I will post it.
This worked for me. You have to be rooted to do it though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
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Confirmed, this works. Nice find!
Where did you find root?
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Where did you find root?
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Root was achieved yesterday. CF Auto Root
i am rooted and using es file explorer. when i try to save it a box keeps coming up saying an error occurred cannot save.
got it. have to mount the system.
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i am rooted and using es file explorer. when i try to save it a box keeps coming up saying an error occurred cannot save.
got it. have to mount the system.
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Root explorer works much better for modifying root directory the ES does.
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Root explorer works much better for modifying root directory the ES does.
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Yea thats what i figured out. So nice to be able to back up to the sd card and the process literally took a minute. Cool find.
I was able to fix this issue by simply installing Folder Mount. When you first open folder mount will offer to repair this permission issue for you. I said yes and it worked. Folder mount also stated this is specific to Sammy 4.4 roms... Just an FYI. Thought I would share.
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Unfortunately, it's not something that Samsung decided to do, it's something Google started back in Android 3.2 and is now apparently asking OEMs to follow their lead on - or else the OEMs aren't reading the codebase much, which I think is also a problem.
The external storage permssions were spotted and commented on by Chainfire (he who gave us root, hallowed be his name ) in 2012!
https://www.xda-developers.com/andr...-preventing-write-access-to-external-storage/
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/
I'm not 100% on this, but I think that the Samsungs are one of the first sets of devices to get KitKat and to have sdcards. (don't know what the status of the gpad 8.3 is) It will be interesting to see if the Gpad 8.3 does the same thing; I'm pretty sure the Tegra Note did, and then EVGA pulled back on their KitKat update due to bugs, of which this was one (glad they called it a bug, but if they'd looked at the code before implementing the changes...)
This issue goes way beyond the sdcard. Remember when your device could be connected to your computer and turn up as a mass storage device, not a media player or a camera?
The MTP protocol originally implemented by Google was hugely troublesome on that score when it was first introduced. There were absolutely insane failure modes. To get an accurate readout of what was on your device you couldn't disconnect from your computer and reconnect, you couldn't disconnect, reboot the Android device and reconnect - nope, you had to reboot your computer.
I haven't thoroughly tested failure modes but at least the warning on copy from PC to Android works correctly now.
When first implemented by Google, file deletions on in Android were not reported to the computer connected to it if they occurred while connected. So you could move a folder and then try to copy files that didn't exist, and Android wouldn't report the file was not there.
This is an example of silent failure, which is the worst possible failure mode. It gets beaten into the heads (or once did) of programmers that you always produce and report an exception on failure. Not doing so is negligent and might be actionable depending on the context.
I just deleted a file from the Samsung and it's taken more than 30 seconds for the Windows system to get information on what's on the Samsung.
Great - I also couldn't enumerate my local disk drives while I waited, more than 3 minutes (i7-2600k, 8 G ram - not a PC side issue!) I finally disconnected and reconnected the USB cable and was able to get my disks to populate immediately on disconnect, and an accurate poll from the Samsung on reconnect.
I suspect that Google's 'fix' for the not-notifying-on-delete bug is to throw a disk not ready message back at the host system.
So, why does Google not see any of the following as important?
- easy local disk mounting
- viable sdcard use
- well-written MTP implementation
I don't think it's about the cash - sure, Google's selling a few books and a few movies and such, but they're really an advertising broker; the revenue from that isn't why they're worth gazillions.
I think it's actually much more insane than that: Google is all about big data and the supremacy of databases over all else.
Including files themselves - Google wants to drive toward a world where files don't exist, only pointers in databases exist.
http://glasskeys.com/2011/02/28/why-google-uses-mtp-instead-of-usb-file-transfer-on-android-3/
is a perspective on MTP that is essentially diametrically opposed to mine - it's quoting Google as pointing out that there is both simplicity and allegedly a greater degree of security from MTP.
The security comes from the filesystem retaining 'nix style ACLs and helping to maintain sandboxing between applications by not exposing storage as a fat32 filesystem and thereby giving up granular access controls.
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(As an example of silent failure that I think may be the subject of civil litigation: the flaw that broke SSL/TLS validation on most Apple devices - phones, tablets and OS X based computers. If you look at the code, it's blindingly clear what happened.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...pdate-is-present-in-os-x-fix-coming-very-soon
http://arstechnica.com/security/201...aw-in-ios-may-also-affect-fully-patched-macs/
This flaw may well explain the Snowden documents that indicate that the NSA has access to any Apple device at will. When those documents were first being reviewed, there were two responses:
- it isn't true
- Apple is in bed with the NSA.
Ignoring a bug that easy to spot in a functional test for years tends to make me wonder if the second explanation may not hold water.)
Hopefully this can help someone. I couldn't edit my *.xml file even though I am ROOTED. But I found this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
and it worked!! Now Titanium Backup is able to write successfully to my sdcard.
The app works great. I would recommend it for anyone on 4.4
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PRESOLVED: My Tab is possessed by the devil!
When I tried to write a file to my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4's external SD card with Astro and it wouldn't work I was flustered. A little research turned up the crippled SD support in KitKat and how to fix things with the simple platform.xml hack. I did that, and all was right with the world again.
Then I got another 8.4, and actually cloned the first one to the second one with a nandroid backup. I also moved my SD card from the first to the second. Eventually I sold the first one and am just left with the second one. But somewhere along the way I lost the ability to write to the SD card, and I can't get it back!
The hacked platform.xml file was of course cloned along with everything else, but it just doesn't work. What's just as bad, or worse, is that apps which should write to external SD even without the hack (and which did, prior to this issue developing), such as Samsung's My Files, and Root Explorer, also are no longer able to!!!!
So to try and fix things, I flashed this ROM to my Tab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698460 But I still can't write to external SD, even with My Files!
Here's another problem, which may or may not be related: I also can't write to the external SD with the Tab connected to my computer. With a small file, the progress bar immediately jumps to 100% but then freezes and after a long time the copy times out with the message, "The device has either stopped responding or has been disconnected". With a large file the progress bar plods along, first at a normal speed but gradually getting slower and slower, until at some point it stops moving and the copy times out.
Please, I beg of you, help me exorcise my demon Tab!
SOLUTION: Before actually posting this plea for help, I re-formatted my SD card (in the Tab) and all functionality is restored. I post this at risk of making myself look like an idiot, in hopes that it might save someone else's hair.
Good on you for posting the problem and the solution. I doubt you'll be the only person to experience this.
Sent telepathically to my Galaxy S4
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... I post this at risk of making myself look like an idiot, in hopes that it might save someone else's hair....
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From that comment it seems we need more bald users as no risk testers.
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droidmark said:
When I tried to write a file to my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4's external SD card with Astro and it wouldn't work I was flustered. A little research turned up the crippled SD support in KitKat and how to fix things with the simple platform.xml hack. I did that, and all was right with the world again.
Then I got another 8.4, and actually cloned the first one to the second one with a nandroid backup. I also moved my SD card from the first to the second. Eventually I sold the first one and am just left with the second one. But somewhere along the way I lost the ability to write to the SD card, and I can't get it back!
The hacked platform.xml file was of course cloned along with everything else, but it just doesn't work. What's just as bad, or worse, is that apps which should write to external SD even without the hack (and which did, prior to this issue developing), such as Samsung's My Files, and Root Explorer, also are no longer able to!!!!
So to try and fix things, I flashed this ROM to my Tab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698460 But I still can't write to external SD, even with My Files!
Here's another problem, which may or may not be related: I also can't write to the external SD with the Tab connected to my computer. With a small file, the progress bar immediately jumps to 100% but then freezes and after a long time the copy times out with the message, "The device has either stopped responding or has been disconnected". With a large file the progress bar plods along, first at a normal speed but gradually getting slower and slower, until at some point it stops moving and the copy times out.
Please, I beg of you, help me exorcise my demon Tab!
SOLUTION: Before actually posting this plea for help, I re-formatted my SD card (in the Tab) and all functionality is restored. I post this at risk of making myself look like an idiot, in hopes that it might save someone else's hair.
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Just wanted to add a postscript for anyone who might have a similar issue. I thought this problem was solved, as described above. Then a few days later when I booted up my tab, the SD card was shown as blank/unformatted. At that point I did some more digging and determined that it was actually a counterfeit 32GB card, based on an 8GB card. Got a refund, threw it in the trash and ordered a new 64GB card. Caveat emptor!
Hello. I have a Galaxy S3 (SGH-I747 on Rogers Canada) with android 4.4 - stock/not rooted. The other day I hooked up my S3 to my laptop using a USB cable. My laptop is running Win XP SP3. I COPIED ALL the pictures from the phone to the Laptop. The pics were visible on BOTH my phone and my laptop when I finished the transfer. I am guessing it used Windows Media as the transfer medium as Kies was not running. While the phone was still linked to the Laptop I thought I would just delete the ones off the phone that I didn't want. I did so. I then unhooked the phone from the laptop. Ouch!!! The pictures I had deleted from the phone were missing from BOTH the phone and the laptop. First I checked the laptop trash bin. Nothing there. I then tried using the Recuva undelete software on my laptop disk as I thought there should be a deleted copy on the disk as they were visible on screen before I unplugged my phone. It recovered some 94k plus jpg's and I spent more than a day scanning them for the ones I needed. Nothing there. So I thought I needed to run an undelete on the phone. HA HA to that!!! It seems that in the android developers great wisdom the phone is no longer considered a mass storage device when hooked to a computer but is a media device. MY interpretation but something like that. Next I did a BUNCH of reading and made a bunch of phone calls for advice. I tried all kinds of tricks. I tried a number of android undelete programs. I had the USB debugging enabled but all the programs I tried didn't recover any deleted jpg's. Even the programs that said they could. It turns out that the phone HAS to be linked as a mass storage device with a drive letter for the android recovery software to work to recover jpg's. It seems to be able to find other file types but not jpg's.
Now here is the interesting part. I tried linking the phone to my desktop (XP SP3 also) and my laptop dozens of times hoping something would change. I believe that once on my desktop and once on my laptop it showed up as a mass storage device. I say "I believe" because I was so conditioned to it NOT showing as a mass storage device that both times I had already clicked on the icon that releases the phone from the computer before I realized there was a drive letter there. Anyway, the time on my laptop that it happened was around the time I had run one of the android file recovery programs. The program had not found any jpg files but when it finished my phone had a message something like "SE has been disabled". blah blah blah. I did a BUNCH more reading and researching about SE on my phone. The best I can figure is that it is a security enhancement designed to stop programs getting at, or changing things in, other programs on the phone and is set somewhere in the policies file - where ever that is.
My question is - Is it possible to temporarily disable SE so I can try and get my pictures back? Thank you, Derek-j
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Hello. I have a Galaxy S3 (SGH-I747 on Rogers Canada) with android 4.4 - stock/not rooted. The other day I hooked up my S3 to my laptop using a USB cable. My laptop is running Win XP SP3. I COPIED ALL the pictures from the phone to the Laptop. The pics were visible on BOTH my phone and my laptop when I finished the transfer. I am guessing it used Windows Media as the transfer medium as Kies was not running. While the phone was still linked to the Laptop I thought I would just delete the ones off the phone that I didn't want. I did so. I then unhooked the phone from the laptop. Ouch!!! The pictures I had deleted from the phone were missing from BOTH the phone and the laptop. First I checked the laptop trash bin. Nothing there. I then tried using the Recuva undelete software on my laptop disk as I thought there should be a deleted copy on the disk as they were visible on screen before I unplugged my phone. It recovered some 94k plus jpg's and I spent more than a day scanning them for the ones I needed. Nothing there. So I thought I needed to run an undelete on the phone. HA HA to that!!! It seems that in the android developers great wisdom the phone is no longer considered a mass storage device when hooked to a computer but is a media device. MY interpretation but something like that. Next I did a BUNCH of reading and made a bunch of phone calls for advice. I tried all kinds of tricks. I tried a number of android undelete programs. I had the USB debugging enabled but all the programs I tried didn't recover any deleted jpg's. Even the programs that said they could. It turns out that the phone HAS to be linked as a mass storage device with a drive letter for the android recovery software to work to recover jpg's. It seems to be able to find other file types but not jpg's.
Now here is the interesting part. I tried linking the phone to my desktop (XP SP3 also) and my laptop dozens of times hoping something would change. I believe that once on my desktop and once on my laptop it showed up as a mass storage device. I say "I believe" because I was so conditioned to it NOT showing as a mass storage device that both times I had already clicked on the icon that releases the phone from the computer before I realized there was a drive letter there. Anyway, the time on my laptop that it happened was around the time I had run one of the android file recovery programs. The program had not found any jpg files but when it finished my phone had a message something like "SE has been disabled". blah blah blah. I did a BUNCH more reading and researching about SE on my phone. The best I can figure is that it is a security enhancement designed to stop programs getting at, or changing things in, other programs on the phone and is set somewhere in the policies file - where ever that is.
My question is - Is it possible to temporarily disable SE so I can try and get my pictures back? Thank you, Derek-j
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This is the international i9300 area, to save you posting this long message again I will get a Mod to move it for you to the i747 area but I wish you the best of luck.
SElinux stands for "security enhanced Linux" and turning it to permissive will not do a lot I believe. However this app can enable UMS on your phone again. Here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mohammadag.samsungusbmassstorageenabler
Thank you...
crazymonkey05 said:
SElinux stands for "security enhanced Linux" and turning it to permissive will not do a lot I believe. However this app can enable UMS on your phone again. Here is the link - deleted...from response
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Alright...thank you crazymonkey!!! Will give it a shot and report back with results.
Derek-j
Back to square one!
crazymonkey05 said:
SElinux stands for "security enhanced Linux" and turning it to permissive will not do a lot I believe. However this app can enable UMS on your phone again. Here is the link deleted to respond.
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Oooppss...not going to work. First off...my phone is stock and this requires rooting. I don't know much about rooting and don't have a problem trying it but I suspect that would likely over-write some or all of the deleted jpg's I want to recover thus defeating the purpose. The other and absolutely CRITICAL thing is that it does NOT enable USB for internal memory. You'd think that the GOOGLE developers would know better than to remove that important feature, especially in an (upgrade???). I had even thought of going back to one of the older versions but again I think that would destroy some of the file entries and delete the very pics I am trying to get back....
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE your trying to help though.
Have a FANTASTIC week. Derek-J.
So BACK TO SQUARE ONE...Anyone know how to temporarily disable the SE feature?
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Oooppss...not going to work. First off...my phone is stock and this requires rooting. I don't know much about rooting and don't have a problem trying it but I suspect that would likely over-write some or all of the deleted jpg's I want to recover thus defeating the purpose. The other and absolutely CRITICAL thing is that it does NOT enable USB for internal memory. You'd think that the GOOGLE developers would know better than to remove that important feature, especially in an (upgrade???). I had even thought of going back to one of the older versions but again I think that would destroy some of the file entries and delete the very pics I am trying to get back....
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE your trying to help though.
Have a FANTASTIC week. Derek-J.
So BACK TO SQUARE ONE...Anyone know how to temporarily disable the SE feature?
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I don't think you can on Android 4.4 without root. Why not just go towel root your S3?
Yea there is not much you can do without root, sorry for your troubles