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Touc Pro 2 going to mobile version of web pages -why???

I love my TP2 (vodafone version) but if I go to any site that has a mobile version it redirects me to that even though I want to see the full version. It is driving me mad.
BBC.co.uk redirects to bbc.co.uk/mobile
telegraph.co.uk redirects to m.telegraph.co.uk
Are others having this problem. I seemed to stop it yesterday after I tried changing the user agent string to a mozilla one but then it has gone back to the original user agent now after I rebooted the phone.

Try using skyfire for your browsing needs it has never done me wrong just dont visit any sites that are too personal like bank accounts and the like, ive benn told its not secure. there should also be a setting that lets you identify your handset as a desktop computer using opera. but ive had that same issue with a reset where i have to go in and set it again. Also just got netfront 3.5 and I havent had too much time with it but its a unique experience .

It has something to do with the browser. Thd symbian OS browser is the same.

Thanks for the tips but Skyfire is OK but nowhere near the browsing an screen quality experience of Opera.
My Experia didnt do this so it is only a setting somewhere but not sure what?

Are you navigating to sites by opening the "Internet" tab on TF3D and entering the URL into the search box at the top of the screen? If you do that, Google picks it up and returns you mobile versions of all the sites. If I put "bbc.co.uk" in there, a page of results comes up, and the first one is "bbc.co.uk/mobile".
To navigate to a page properly, open the "Internet" tab as normal but then click on the great big "launch browser" button (with a picture of the earth). Then select the address box at the top of the screen and enter your URL here instead.
Is that any better?

Nope I am not doing that as I have disabled TF3D because I hate it, but thats another story.
No I am not referring to the search page results and following pages that google formats, I am talking about typing plane old pages into Opera after launching opera from the programs menu.

don't have TP2 yet, but in my FUze opera -> menu -> settings -> display -> uncheck mobile view. that should do it. I'm still getting the hang of opera after using skyfire in the Kaiser.

Yes that is already unchecked too.

I believe that the BBC checks what browser you are using and then directs you to the page it thinks you want to see.
At the bottom of their home page there is a preferences link. Tells you to bookmark the version you are happiest to see.
Guess the Telegraph does the same. That would explain why setting your browser to say it is mozilla gave you the usual BBC page.
No idea on a long term fix except to bookmark! They are getting too clever for their own good!!!

The bbc and others take you to the crappy mobile site even if you dont want it. It drives me mad.

Have you tried going to the URL opera:config in opera and changing the settings there. I don't know if it will overwrite on soft reset but under user prefs there is a Custom User-Agent setting.
You could look at changing that perhaps?
Might be something with spoof useragent ID?
I fould this:
1 = Opera (default user agent string of Opera)
2 = Mozilla
3 = Internet Explorer
4 = Mozilla, Opera not mentioned
5 = Internet Explorer, Opera not mentioned
but that is probably not the whole story!!!
I have changed the max number of open tabs on this page to 4 from 2. following advice from someone here. That worked fine

Yes I make the changes that fix the problem then when I soft reset they go back to the old settings. I reckon it is because it is a Vodafone rom because it always sets it back to a Vodafone user agent string.

Strange, I make the changes in the editor and nothing happens but then I located the opera.ini file that the editor should edit in the \windows\opera folder and I edited it with a text editor in windows then uploaded the edited file. Nothing changed until I rebooted and then it was fine.

I changed my user-agent string to a standard Mozilla one and this has fixed my problem for some sites including the one I wanted to fix the mostbut not the telegraph.co.uk one. They must use something else. Need to play a bit more.

Download Opera Beta 9.7
Works great for me. No re-direction to mobile sites what so ever. There is an option in the settings of beta version to turn mobile view on/off. By default it's OFF.

When I install 9.7 beta on my vodafone TP2 and run it, it hangs and I have to reboot the device.

Sorted!!!!!
Don't you hate it when something so simple doesn't work!
OK, Tested BBC and telegraph after a reset and they both work.
Not my solution entirely but it came from here on the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470001
Thank you gtrab.
The issue was that the config tool with opera was not saving the configuration properly so after a reset my opera:config seemed to be going back to an old version. One that I had hacked and broken!!!! ( I have no idea why that one saved and other ones didn't
Solution was to use total commander to get hold of the windows/opera9/opera.ini file and edit this on my computer before replacing back into the opera9 folder
I have gone back to the vodafone useragent
Custom User-Agent=Vodafone/1.0/HTC_Touch_Pro2/1.14.161.5 (50207) Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
Default Spoof UserAgent
Spoof UserAgent ID=1
And it seems the important one
UAProf URL Enabled=0
Now I am getting the web pages as I see them on the desktop. Horah!!!!

Oh awesome thankyou. I searched everywhere for an answer but you found it. I will go and give it a try.

[Q] Only mobile versions of websites?

How do I set my Tilt 2 to only load regular websites and not the mobile versions? I have tried a multiple browsers, set them to not load mobile and they still load mobile. Is it a setting within the phone itself?

Hi there,
It is indeed a settings option
- open opera and type: opera:config
- scroll down to "user prefs"
- scroll all the way down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck that box
- scroll down a little more and save "user Prefs"
- restart opera
& you are set 2 go!

cam123 said:
How do I set my Tilt 2 to only load regular websites and not the mobile versions? I have tried a multiple browsers, set them to not load mobile and they still load mobile. Is it a setting within the phone itself?
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try iris browser..
also see at the bottom of the page for deskop view.

I had no idea about opera:config. Worked perfectl. Thanks.

NP, glad 2 be off some help

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Hi there,
It is indeed a settings option
- open opera and type: opera:config
- scroll down to "user prefs"
- scroll all the way down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck that box
- scroll down a little more and save "user Prefs"
- restart opera
& you are set 2 go!
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yup this is the best way

cutecool said:
yup this is the best way
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I wished that had worked for me. I've tried just about every fix listed on these forums, and the only way to get full sites on my tilt2 is to tag ?m=false onto every non mobile page I want to load. Engadget and CNN are the two I am always testing on.

cbeck said:
I wished that had worked for me. I've tried just about every fix listed on these forums, and the only way to get full sites on my tilt2 is to tag ?m=false onto every non mobile page I want to load. Engadget and CNN are the two I am always testing on.
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hard luck bro, try iris browser or skyfire..
btw wat do u mean by ?m=false where to tag this to c complete website

I happen to be on the opposite end. I wish the browser will automatically detect if it has a mobile version but for some reason, my phone always loads just whatever I type on the url. In order for me to load the mobile version, I always have to add m.
Is there anyway that even if I type like engadget.com, it will load m.engadget.com. It's just easier instead of having to add that m.
I think the original rom always tries to load the mobile version because htc probably made change to the preference or code but the energy rom which has the updated stock opera will load the full version by default unless you add the m.

PUTALE said:
I happen to be on the opposite end. I wish the browser will automatically detect if it has a mobile version but for some reason, my phone always loads just whatever I type on the url. In order for me to load the mobile version, I always have to add m.
Is there anyway that even if I type like engadget.com, it will load m.engadget.com. It's just easier instead of having to add that m.
I think the original rom always tries to load the mobile version because htc probably made change to the preference or code but the energy rom which has the updated stock opera will load the full version by default unless you add the m.
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nope then too even after changing from the opera:config the facebook doesnt opens its default website, it automatically redirects to m.facebook.com even i wish i had an alternative for facebook to open as www.facebook.com. even if i change the url to www. it again redirects to m.facebook

cutecool said:
hard luck bro, try iris browser or skyfire..
btw wat do u mean by ?m=false where to tag this to c complete website
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it tags onto the end of the site url after the "/" or after ".html"... but I just checked, it looks like whether or not is works is site specific. Works fine on Engadget (which is what I browse frequently) but not CNN.
I do use skyfire, but it just seems to me that it has been getting consistently slower in page loads/refreshes when scrolling and more prone to timeouts over the last year. I had thought updating from the older version would help, but it seems about the same.

cbeck said:
it tags onto the end of the site url after the "/" or after ".html"... but I just checked, it looks like whether or not is works is site specific. Works fine on Engadget (which is what I browse frequently) but not CNN.
I do use skyfire, but it just seems to me that it has been getting consistently slower in page loads/refreshes when scrolling and more prone to timeouts over the last year. I had thought updating from the older version would help, but it seems about the same.
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skyfire is blocked for my country due to security reasons...
i just wanted full version on Facebook on my TP2

[Q] Opera mobile annoying warning messages.

Hello everybody.
I am using opera mobile 10 beta 3.
I did this:
Guide to Desktop View in Opera Mobile 10 Beta 3
But almost every time have message:
The server's certificate chain is incomplete, and the signer(s) are not registered.
Accept? The certificate for "...some company name" is signed by the unknown Certificate Authority "VerSign, Inc." It is not possible to verify that this is a valid certificate.
Continue? Cancel (buttons).
Have anybody any idea how to get rid of this?
My ROM Jackos EVO. 08/05/2011
Radio 4.49.25.91

I would think you'd only get that for secured/SSL sites where the site owner doesn't have a signed SSL cert from a cert authority. Is that true, or you getting them on non-SSL sites as well?

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I would think you'd only get that for secured/SSL sites where the site owner doesn't have a signed SSL cert from a cert authority. Is that true, or you getting them on non-SSL sites as well?
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I our forum for example , I dont see https before www so I think it's not SSL.
Thanks

So first off, isn't there a final version of Opera 10? Why are you still on the beta?
Second, did you try 'regular' desktop view? I guess I'm confused as to why you'd jump thru all those hoops of a custom user agent screen etc when there's already this mode built in...

arrrghhh said:
So first off, isn't there a final version of Opera 10? Why are you still on the beta?
Second, did you try 'regular' desktop view? I guess I'm confused as to why you'd jump thru all those hoops of a custom user agent screen etc when there's already this mode built in...
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Beta was the only version with supporting plug-ins to work (like flash from adobe).
In advanced options is plug-ins to ON or OFF.
Also in settings is option MOBILE VIEW, so I have it OFF.
But some sites like paypal is still switching to mobile view itself.

So i install fresh opera 10 official and still have these messages.

mazak23 said:
So i install fresh opera 10 official and still have these messages.
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This is also without those crazy directions, correct? Changing your useragent string can cause all sorts of unforeseen consequences.

[Q] FB WinRT

Hej!
Im on Surface RT 8.1 prew and a couple of days ago facebook only displays in mobile version and that sux,wat to do?

In my opinion m.facebook.com is better than regular facebook but thats just me. Certainly faster to load (slow connection)
Anyway, top left corner is a button with 3 horizontal bars. click it, down bottom of the new side pane that opens there is a button that says desktop, click it and voila.

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In my opinion m.facebook.com is better than regular facebook but thats just me. Certainly faster to load (slow connection)
Anyway, top left corner is a button with 3 horizontal bars. click it, down bottom of the new side pane that opens there is a button that says desktop, click it and voila.
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Nope no bar button

Zlacker said:
Nope no bar button
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javascript is disabeld on fb loggin page/desktop version...logg in the it defaults to mobile .
where do i find options for java settings on windows rt/IE?

On that version of the site it is on the *very* bottom of the page. I can't screenshot it on my windows phone to demonstrate (its a windows phone 8 feature and I use 7.5) but if you scroll to the very very bottom of the page there is a desktop button.
Javascript is enabled in windows RT already. There is no java, the 2 are not the same. Facebook uses javascript not java. Mobile sites loading instead of desktop sites by default is a known internet explorer 11 problem, can be fixed by changing the user agent string to match that for internet explorer 10 instead. It is because websites do not recognize the user agent string for internet explorer 11 as being a valid browser as it is new, so they serve up the mobile site for maximum compatibility.
As for the confusion over the side button. Facebook have 2 mobile sites. One for desktop browsers and one for mobile browsers, kinda weird. I incorrectly assumed the version it would present is this version (shown in chrome with the side bar open, this is how I access my facebook):
Sorry about that.

I have this same issue. No desktop or full site button anywhere
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Add it to Compatibility View in the Desktop version of IE. Then in the Modern UI version of IE, you'll be fine.

hotphil said:
Add it to Compatibility View in the Desktop version of IE. Then in the Modern UI version of IE, you'll be fine.
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How do I do this?

kurtis.austin2 said:
How do I do this?
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I've not got my Surface in front of me, but from memory - Go to Desktop, launch IE, Tools, Compatibility View settings, add the site(s). Then when you visit the site in Modern UI IE, it should display correctly. Or wait for the site owner to add correct support for IE11.

Facebook works just fine on my IE 11 Modern UI on 8.1 RT.

It wasn't working for a few days for me. Didn't change anything and it went back yesterday to full site working
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How to make user agent work everytime to show the browser in desktop mode in c# wp

used user agent in
webBrowser.Navigate(new Uri(" link "),null,"user-Agent");
This works well.But only one time site opens in desktop mode and there after any search in browser opens in mobile site mode. Want to always open in desktop mode.
Example:
To make settings as in internet explorer for windows phone (website preference) which works in every Uri link.

Google: Windows phone Web browser user agent and click the second link.
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You have to manually change your browser's user agent. Unfortunately I cannot post links but if you go on stackoverflow, just search for 'windows phone browser in desktop mode'