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If the judge in Samsung vs apple case allows this I'll be at a loss for words...

www.fosspatents.com/2012/07/samsung-objects-to-gratuitous-images-of.html?m=1
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I think that this Judge has no idea what she is doing, I wonder what product she uses.
Almost all her rulings have been over turned by appeals courts and she has always sided in the case of Apple.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a .....

My bad but what does it mean ? Didnt understand anything lol
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bikrame said:
My bad but what does it mean ? Didnt understand anything lol
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Basically Apple is using pictures of Steve Jobs in evidence photos (him holding the iPad when it was unveiled in 2010, etc.), presumably to win sympathy from the jury since he's dead and all that jazz. Samsung said, "those pictures have nothing to do with the evidence!" Judge Hoe...I mean Koh said, "Yes they do, feel free to use them Apple." So Samsung said, "Fine you can use them, but if you're going to let them use those pictures of Jobs, you have to let us quote what Jobs said about going thermonuclear on Android [from his autobiography]." The Judge said no. So basically, she keeps siding with Apple on everything, and it's effing ridiculous. She's either a fangirl herself, or she's getting paid off by Apple behind the scenes.

So wait, because Steve Jobs said that he would spend his dying breath to destroy Android because it infringes his patents, that means that it's evidence against Apple? If anything it shows that Apple truly believes that they did infringe on their patents...
And their using photos of Steve Jobs to display the product, not just random photos of Steve for sympathy.

android >> apple all day every day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What Apple is doing is ridiculous. Its the same as saying no one else can manufacturer a 52" 16:9 device with a screen that displays moving pictures a (TV) I hope some judge rules that they not only lose these ridiculous cases but have to pay damages, court costs and the legal fees of everyone they attempted to sue.
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http://www.foxbusiness.com/technolo...-ruling-on-3-samsung-devices-in-munich-court/

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That's the sad part, as more and more international courts throw out Apple's ridiculous patents and claims, this "judge" keeps giving Apple all the leeway they want in this case, while denying pretty much all of Samsung's motions

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That's the sad part, as more and more international courts throw out Apple's ridiculous patents and claims, this "judge" keeps giving Apple all the leeway they want in this case, while denying pretty much all of Samsung's motions
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yeah man it is ridiculous.. a lot of countries have already banned samsung from selling the note.. smh

Unlocking of GSM phones illegal???

If you did not know it, US Congress has enacted a law that would make unlocking a cell phone to use on another carrier illegal by the end of this month. If you disagree with this please sign this petition. This mostly affects customers that travel abroad and unlock to save money and not pay huge fees for using the phone in other countries. Question on my end...wouldn't this pertain to mostly GSM users? I do not think a Verizon phone can be used elsewhere.
Make Unlocking Cell Phones Legal. http://wh.gov/yA9n
If you have 3 extra minutes, please sign the petition in the link provided, and help stop our government from taking away just one more thing from us
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It's not illegal here, because here all are noobs or stupid!
And I don't care, if it would be illegal somewhere then so what, who cares?..

manumanfred said:
It's not illegal here, because here all are noobs or stupid!
And I don't care, if it would be illegal somewhere then so what, who cares?..
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so much genius in this post lol
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If you bought an unlocked phone (e.g. Play Store), then it doesn't matter. What matters is if you bought a phone from a carrier - this is where the unlocking issue comes into play. Unlocking the device to use in another carrier network is now illegal unless you get permission of the carrier from which you purchased the phone.
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manumanfred said:
It's not illegal here, because here all are noobs or stupid!
And I don't care, if it would be illegal somewhere then so what, who cares?..
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Genius. You make us all proud.:banghead:
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How on earth will they enforce this law? It seems to be impossible to mitigate...

A lot of things that have seemed "impossible" have been being passed thru without is approving during the Obama era. Ya never know anymore.
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Wrong thread. Sorry.
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Two words.......
Catch me
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altimax98 said:
Two words.......
Catch me
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Yes. Catch me. Well said.
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No talking about "carrier swapping" people, this is illegal. But if you want to talk about "carrier repair"....

Makes me glad I don't live in the US, maybe they should fix their gun laws before worrying about something as stupid as unlocking phones, next Obama will be taxing white people for being white.
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slayr76 said:
Makes me glad I don't live in the US, maybe they should fix their gun laws before worrying about something as stupid as unlocking phones, next Obama will be taxing white people for being white.
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So he'd be taxing half of himself? People love to forget how bills get to his desk in the first place...

jxr94 said:
So he'd be taxing half of himself? People love to forget how bills get to his desk in the first place...
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I couldn't care less about his colour, he just rants on about what he can change but does nothing, anyway i can freely unlock any locked phone through my carriers website using its imei number an its 100% legal an free of charge as I did when I first unlocked my gnex which was locked to Vodafone on contract the day I got it.
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Its not illegal if you get your carrier to unlock it. You just can't use third party unlocking services.

dark_light said:
Its not illegal if you get your carrier to unlock it. You just can't use third party unlocking services.
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It's only illegal if it's on contract and you don't get their permission. But like most people have said, catch me.

I don't see why they enforced this before making guns illegal o.o
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Not a crime if you're not caught...................
Like others challenged, catch them.

Pff, the amount of resources needed to first find out IF someone has unlocked their phone is exorbitantly high and not something that can be done "on the fly".
Also, as far as I know there is no way to tell if a mobile phone is currently using a different network than it was supposed to.
But then again, i'm not living in the US and don't know about the specifics of network locks there, I just know that unless it's a feature phone from a carrier (at least concerning germany) then they are not locked to a specific network anymore.
Unlocked bootloaders however are a different question (like the Motorola Razr which was supposed to be unlockable in Europe, but wasn't).

I doubt anything comes of it but if it did, they'd go after those enabling others to unlock phones.
Similarly, the EPA just went after several aftermarket diesel engine tuning companies that were selling products that bypassed emission requirements. The EPA went after several companies and small time product distributors, made them pay fines, and buy back devices sold to consumers.

Legislators should much rather go after Apple, since they dropped out of a recycling alliance.
That should be a mandatory requirement if you want to manufacture electronic devices.
Also, Apple shot themselves in their knees with that move, since now no government institution is allowed to buy Apple hardware anymore, since whatever they use has to be recycleable by the manufacturer (at least that's the way in germany).

No more Boost or Virgin for you.

Damn criminals.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=18319518
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Thats crazy!
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gilbydakid said:
Damn criminals.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=18319518
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devynbf said:
Thats crazy!
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please go read what the actual law states. this only applies to phones that are still under contract/subsidy. if your 2 year contract has expired you can unlock any phone.

that's not gonna stop anyone

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that's not gonna stop anyone
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Actually, yes it will.
Carriers are not gonna go after the users (such as myself) but will definitely go after commercial unlockers, like the store I have bought 5 phones from and flashed 6 phones with. I buy the phones unsubsidized, so im ok, but with a possible $500,000 fine and prison time...I dont think my store will continue doing this.
Going to call them tomorrow and see what they say...
Edit: read the docket...im glad I got my note 2 flashed before it went into effect.
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yea well obviously the people who do it for commercial reasons it'll stop them ..but like me or you or whoever knows how to unlock a phone is probably gonna do it (for personal use)

Problem is for metropcs...you need retailer access to their database. I can
Change everything on the phone but not add the esn to metro's database. So I have to rely on those commercial people...so my note 3 might have to be on sprint...
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Max_Pain said:
Problem is for metropcs...you need retailer access to their database. I can
Change everything on the phone but not add the esn to metro's database. So I have to rely on those commercial people...so my note 3 might have to be on sprint...
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But isn't that where people just end up using a donor ESN?
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I get the ruling, but don't fully agree with the logic used. It centered around the cellphone service providers recouping the subsidy costs the give consumers. I just don't get why they needed it overall, especially for the general consumer, since the contracts state if you leave the carrier, you pay a fee; assuming you don't find a loophole to exploit. If that that fee isn't enough, raise it. As far as I know, there is nothing to say it can't be higher based on the phone purchase. Just has to go down over time. My thinking, make it cost the same as buying the phone unlocked.
At the same time, I wouldn't say Sprint makes phone friendly to switch carriers, compared to others who do not have build in SIM cards.
Personally, it's not going to stop me or that many people. I don't believe most people who unlock do it to change carriers. They're more interested in rooting for the ability to use custom firmware on the same carrier or use other applications.
That said, I can understand where people might be one these phones and try to go with something like Metro. I never looked into the long term costs, so I'm not sure how much money is really saved. The wore part is the ability to see the phone to offset the cost of upgrading to newer model because it limits the buyers to only those who want that same carrier. This may drive the prices even lower.
Without more numbers, I just think this more carriers being scared rather than working with each other so consumers are happy and they can make more money by increase the number of users.

Replacement phone T-Mobile? Refurbished?

My friend is on contract on T-Mobile he got the note 2 a month ago and he told ordered two replacement refurbished note 2's then he's done with T-Mobile he ain't sending it back or nothing just done paying it and keeping the phones. I told him he can get into trouble for that he can right?? Or does it just mess up his credit? He did it three years ago and nothing happened besides probably bad credit now.
I know a lot of people on Craigslist be getting new phones without battery and back piece and I once bought one and it wouldn't read my Sim card because he never paid it I'm guessing.

The phone will black listed, side note I exchange phones a bunch due to defects or little things Tmobile is becoming much more strict about what they will exchange abs are now charging $5-$20 to process exchanges I wouldn't be surprised if a bill is coming his way soon
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But what else will happen since he done paying and not sending the phones back?

shaqqq said:
But what else will happen since he done paying and not sending the phones back?
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They may bill for a full cost of a replacement phone. I used to work for a t-mobile dealer LONG time ago (9 years ago) and they did the same thing. If we had a customer walk in, we process an exchange on their behalf. But we tell them if they don't send original phone back, they will be getting a large bill. And few people did. T-Mobile does work with them, and will take the charges out if you return the phone.

The phones will be blacklisted. If he sells them the new owner is screwed. Maybe he is Ok with that. If he is, find another friend as this guy proved himself to be a slime ball.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

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But what else will happen since he done paying and not sending the phones back?
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You ever see "bad esn" in an ebay auction description for a cell phone...that is what your buddy's phones will have. They can pretty much can be used as a wifi mini tablet, unless he is able to flash the phone to another gsm carrier. Regardless goes against his credit also.

Not true T-Mobile uses sim cards you can do what ever except. For warranty. I know a bit about this subject but the problem with things like this is once people start talking in a public forum than can screw everybody.
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diamantericos said:
Not true T-Mobile uses sim cards you can do what ever except. For warranty. I know a bit about this subject but the problem with things like this is once people start talking in a public forum than can screw everybody.
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Again, not true. The phone WILL be blacklisted and won't work in the country unless you take it overseas maybe. How do I know? I deal with craigslist people and ebay listings for a meager living.

Phones will be blacklisted with Tmobile, Simple mobile and AT&T he will also be billed $600 for not returning the defective phone. The phones they send him will be factory refurbished which means it's just the phone there will be no battery, battery cover, Spen or charger.
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What happens if he doesn't pay that?
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What are you trying to figure out here?
If T-Mobile will send the police knocking if you don't pay?
Its probably the same as all of the pathetic dead beat people who think its OK to steal and don't think they should have to pay bills like the rest of us.
He'll have bad credit (which won't matter to him because he's apparently OK with stealing things anyway) and he'll get away with it for the most part while the rest of us law abiding citizens will continue to pay more for goods and services and more to cover for selfish people like this!!
:-/
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woops wrong thread....

He's clearly talking about himself lol I love it when they get on here and do this. It's like the typical "dad I need your advice..... I have a friend who's......" when all along he's talking about himself. Smh stop stealing and taking advantage of warranties.
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yungtexas said:
He's clearly talking about himself lol I love it when they get on here and do this. It's like the typical "dad I need your advice..... I have a friend who's......" when all along he's talking about himself. Smh stop stealing and taking advantage of warranties.
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Lol it's not me but if you want to think so it's whatever. I have Sprint not TMobile anyways. I am worried about my friend that's why I'm asking. Don't be immature about it.
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shaqqq said:
Lol it's not me but if you want to think so it's whatever. I have Sprint not TMobile anyways. I am worried about my friend that's why I'm asking. Don't immature be about it.
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Says the guy who's associated with a thief! Right, so scums like him can benefit a small portion whole the rest of us decent people pay for it! Then you'll be back here complaining about how much the deductible is for a flagship phone.
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yungtexas said:
Says the guy who's associated with a thief! Right, so scums like him can benefit a small portion whole the rest of us decent people pay for it! Then you'll be back here complaining about how much the deductible is for a flagship phone.
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Lol why you getting angry smh. Because you know you being immature.
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shaqqq said:
Lol why you getting angry smh. Because you know you being immature.
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What you're talking about is theft and fraud. You're not going to get any help on criminal activity from anyone here. Nobody is going to give you advice on how to avoid going to jail. In fact, simply talking about it could implicate you for aiding and abeting and now there is proof all over the internet. Good luck.

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What you're talking about is theft and fraud. You're not going to get any help on criminal activity from anyone here. Nobody is going to give you advice on how to avoid going to jail. In fact, simply talking about it could implicate you for aiding and abeting and now there is proof all over the internet. Good luck.
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Lol ok. Your mad because your being immature. You still think it's me obviously. You must be a little kid.

Judgibg by the way you present yourself id say theres a good chance your friend is a hood rat wanna be thug, his credit will be hit and depending on how much he owes it could become a legal matter, this is wjy people like yall cant have nice things
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Apple at it again... Claims GS4 is a patent infringement device

Ridiculous.

Joe0113 said:
Ridiculous.
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Apple seems to be the one kids who always wins the game, but when they lose they try to get their rich dad to ban you from the community park. xD
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Bro you might not want post every single article your read on flip board your gonna eat all the hard drive space in this forum
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Doubtful
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Bro you might not want post every single article your read on flip board your gonna eat all the hard drive space in this forum
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The hell is Flipboard? And I highly doubt that, don't wanna read it then don't click on it guy, simply as that.
Onto the next one.

i swear people on this forum are d**ks sometimes... and btw thanks for the laugh... apple doesnt think things through lol. samsung could find a lawyer that would kick apples a$$ if they wanted to lol

eisawi99;41433045[I said:
]i swear people on this forum are d**ks sometimes[/I]... and btw thanks for the laugh... apple doesnt think things through lol. samsung could find a lawyer that would kick apples a$$ if they wanted to lol
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Yeah it's pretty pathetic if you ask me lol.
But yeah, it's probably gonna get dismissed.

LMMFAO This has now become comical! Apple....please stop. You're embarrassing yourself now.

"Those who can, do... Those who can't, sue..." awesome comments under the article also Haha.
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Beedeezy10 said:
LMMFAO This has now become comical! Apple....please stop. You're embarrassing yourself now.
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*HAS NOW BECOME* comical?! You mean it wasn't before this latest suit?!
Oh, I get it - nice to have you back from your 3-year coma, sir!

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*HAS NOW BECOME* comical?! You mean it wasn't before this latest suit?!
Oh, I get it - nice to have you back from your 3-year coma, sir!
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LMAO No...it was just funny before...but more sad than anything. Little giggles. LOL But now is Hilarious!

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"Those who can, do... Those who can't, sue..." awesome comments under the article also Haha.
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The comments are always my the best part haha

My opinion: Galaxy S2 > iPhone 5.
The iPhone was made for the simplistic user. 85% of users on this forum are the opposite.

Apple is giving Samsung free publicity. By the time this goes to trial, the S5 will be out and the suit will be pointless. Samsung will have already made all the money there is to be had on the S4.
Apple should just buy Microsoft. Maybe between 2 dead companies, they can re-invent themselves and re-enter the race.

edufur said:
Apple is giving Samsung free publicity. By the time this goes to trial, the S5 will be out and the suit will be pointless. Samsung will have already made all the money there is to be had on the S4.
Apple should just buy Microsoft. Maybe between 2 dead companies, they can re-invent themselves and re-enter the race.
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Apple, would never buy Microsoft. Ever.
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lilman355 said:
Apple, would never buy Microsoft. Ever.
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Seems more intelligent than the stupid suits they have been blowing their money on. At least if they buy Microsoft, two negatives might make a positive.

Before you know it... Apple will be suing every cell phone comapny claiming it was the 1st to make a cell phone, then sue every company making music players because they did that first too. LOL. And this is why I have never, and will never support Apple. In the past month I've converted 3 iPhone users to getting the GS4!! #TeamAndroid #AppleSucks

Joe0113 said:
Before you know it... Apple will be suing every cell phone comapny claiming it was the 1st to make a cell phone, then sue every company making music players because they did that first too. LOL. And this is why I have never, and will never support Apple. In the past month I've converted 3 iPhone users to getting the GS4!! #TeamAndroid #AppleSucks
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They should get what they like... lol
Just kidding!
I'm thinking about trading my S3 for the iPhone 5GS3
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edufur said:
Apple is giving Samsung free publicity. By the time this goes to trial, the S5 will be out and the suit will be pointless. Samsung will have already made all the money there is to be had on the S4.
Apple should just buy Microsoft. Maybe between 2 dead companies, they can re-invent themselves and re-enter the race.
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If Apple bought Microsoft I think Android would be gone. Microsoft own a lot the essential patents Android need to operate. In the hands of Apple, Android is doomed.
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masaidjet said:
If Apple bought Microsoft I think Android would be gone. Microsoft own a lot the essential patents Android need to operate. In the hands of Apple, Android is doomed.
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There are anti trust laws to prevent that. Apple and Microsoft could never fully merge the anti trust boards wouldn't allow it, so no need to go all "the sky is falling". The worst that could possibly happen would be licensing patents to each other or partnering on a project, but with their competitive history the only way that would happen is if Apple offered BIG money which they would never do cuz they are too greedy.
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