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Not sure what I am doing wrong but my battery life is horrendous. It's not the battery, I have three OEM batteries. Here is a screenshot from this morning:
I'm running Whitehawkx AOKP, build 8-16. Also have bad battery life on FreeGS3 with Trinity kernel. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Warrior1975 said:
Not sure what I am doing wrong but my battery life is horrendous. It's not the battery, I have three OEM batteries. Here is a screenshot from this morning:
I'm running Whitehawkx AOKP, build 8-16. Also have bad battery life on FreeGS3 with Trinity kernel. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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I haven't tried that ROM, but using Stock Debloated or CM10 I easily get a full day of use. I listen to music while at work, read on the subway, and make about 2 hours of calls with about 40% left at the end of every day.
I don't think it's the ROM. I've been getting less than average battery life. Flashed a new theme last night and it definitely worsened. Even on FreeGS3 battery life was not up to par.
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Warrior1975 said:
Not sure what I am doing wrong but my battery life is horrendous. It's not the battery, I have three OEM batteries. Here is a screenshot from this morning:
I'm running Whitehawkx AOKP, build 8-16. Also have bad battery life on FreeGS3 with Trinity kernel. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Jeez that is some really horrible battery life.
What you should do is a factory reset and flash the new wicked v2 rom with trinity kernel 43b. Make sure to wipe cache partition, dalvik and battery stats wipe.
Also after you do that odex your rom.
I am at 59 percent with 3hours of SCREEN ON time. This is with heavy use.
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I'd prefer to keep AOKP as my dd. I know it's working well for people. I just don't know what's wrong with me.
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Try to exchange the battery. If you got the phone at a physical store they should just give you a new one.
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Try to exchange the battery. If you got the phone at a physical store they should just give you a new one.
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he already stated that he has THREE OEM BATTERIES.
i too has been having the same issue...even if my screen is on the dimmest setting on my battery stats, its still eating 60% or sometimes even more of my battery. ive tried different stock roms and made sure i factory reset/ wipe cache/battery stats and still no luck. any other suggestions?
battery calibration?
I did that a few flashes ago...maybe I'll try again.
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Battery calibration does nothing. Screen will always be the highest consumer of battery unless you don't use the screen and/or you're in an area with ****ty cell service. That's just how it is. The screens are power hungry. It doesn't mean there's a problem with your phone, that's how it is.
I've had my E4GT for maybe ten months and my battery is just horrible now. I have tried a variety of different ROMs and I'm currently running goodness and I used to get great battery life out of it (full day with heavy use) and then it just started going bad. Now I have to charge every seven hours or so. And my screen flickers (as if my batterys out of juice) and my phone powers off and when I reboot, it is usually significantly lower in percentage or below 5% and this happens on a variety of ROMs as well but it seems like its gone because I formatted SD (formatted a few hours ago so dont know for sure). I am most likely going to buy a new standard battery but I want to make sure that it's a bad battery. Thanks
If you take the battery out is it swollen? You can spin it pretty good if it is swollen. My battery went bad around ten months, just took it to a Sprint repair store and they gave me a new one.
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If you take the battery out is it swollen? You can spin it pretty good if it is swollen. My battery went bad around ten months, just took it to a Sprint repair store and they gave me a new one.
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Actually now that you mention it, it doesn't seem to fit properly into the compartment and it looks like the bottom left side is sticking out more (when you look at it from the side at eye level). Also, when I put the back cover on, it requires more to close and fit properly
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I would just go to the Sprint store, your phone is under a year old so it is still covered under the Samsung warrenty.
namakemono1776 said:
I would just go to the Sprint store, your phone is under a year old so it is still covered under the Samsung warrenty.
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So it is the battery and not my phone right?
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Probably. This seems to be happening a lot lately.
Get a couple Anker batteries off amazon. I grabbed two with a charger for $15. Awesome batteries
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camalus said:
Get a couple Anker batteries off amazon. I grabbed two with a charger for $15. Awesome batteries
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I think I'll just buy an OEM battery
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Probably. This seems to be happening a lot lately.
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Yeah I was searching around and I saw a few people having the same problems. Some suggested to format the SD card so I tried it and the reboot problem persisted. Most likely the battery
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Yeah it's probably your battery, I am a heavy user, my battery didn't even last a year. I had screen flicker, reboots, fast charge and discharge cycles, weird things happen when the battery is going.
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Yeah it's probably your battery, I am a heavy user, my battery didn't even last a year. I had screen flicker, reboots, fast charge and discharge cycles, weird things happen when the battery is going.
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Yep I am getting all of that. Ordered a new OEM battery and hoping it was my battery and not my phone. Thanks for your help
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Might be a dumb question, but did you try calibrating it?
tuscani1821 said:
Might be a dumb question, but did you try calibrating it?
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Yep already tried calibrating it
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Might be a dumb question, but did you try calibrating it?
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Even dumber question, how does one calibrate the battery? I just got a brand new E4GT and I'm lucky if I can make it seven hours. Is it just charging it fully then clearing battery stats in rec?
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Even dumber question, how does one calibrate the battery? I just got a brand new E4GT and I'm lucky if I can make it seven hours. Is it just charging it fully then clearing battery stats in rec?
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That's the thing. You shouldn't need to calibrate a lithium ion battery. Complete drains are actually bad for them.
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Removing battery stats is not calibrating. To calibrate just charge the phone to full and after a couple cycles it will optimize itself.
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GPadraic said:
Even dumber question, how does one calibrate the battery? I just got a brand new E4GT and I'm lucky if I can make it seven hours. Is it just charging it fully then clearing battery stats in rec?
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Wow seven hours? Are you on stock? When I first got my E4GT and was running stock, non rooted, I could last the whole day . And just let it charge all the way but don't let your phone die. That's not good for the battery
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syed239 said:
Wow seven hours? Are you on stock? When I first got my E4GT and was running stock, non rooted, I could last the whole day . And just let it charge all the way but don't let your phone die. That's not good for the battery
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Even being rooted with some of the amazing ROM's out there and a year and a half old phone/battery I can get around 18 hours without recharging
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Even being rooted with some of the amazing ROM's out there and a year and a half old phone/battery I can get around 18 hours without recharging
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I guess some E4GTs are better than other
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I recently got a new battery and the difference is crazy. My phone started really freaking out before I replaced mine––screen glitching, reboots, not booting, etc.
Hi guys using wicked with trinity 7b. See a few people posting 2 days on one charge and over 6 hours screen time. Would like to know how as i cannot get anywhere near that. I use system tuner, odex my Rom and kill my tasks whenever possible. I use lh2 modem.
Anyone with huge battery time please help us out here. I'm sure many of us would like some help. Also if you tweak your build.prop press share that.
Looking for details. I'm not a noob
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They are not using the stock battery. If you want battery like that, buy an extended battery. That is the only answer.
What I find most telling in many of these screen shots is that Device Idle and Cell Standby are almost always in the top.
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What I find most telling in many of these screen shots is that Device Idle and Cell Standby are almost always in the top.
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Cell standby is actually lying. It was coded with a decimal in the wrong place and so it shows that it uses a lot more than it actually does. Purely cosmetic really, but can be annoying when testing battery issues.
Edit: many custom roms have corrected this btw.
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No it's on stock battery. I get about 5 hours now looking to take it to a higher level. Pun intended
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DocHoliday77 said:
Cell standby is actually lying. It was coded with a decimal in the wrong place and so it shows that it uses a lot more than it actually does. Purely cosmetic really, but can be annoying when testing battery issues.
Edit: many custom roms have corrected this btw.
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Ya, I saw that before. There is a zip floating around here somewhere that moves it from .34 to 3.4 and fixes it. But you're right that most custom ROMs have this (Cell Standby) fixed.
I just mainly think that Device Idle even being in the top 3 or 4 is a very telling sign that the phone is not being used very much.
Install the easy battery saver app.
I hate to be the jerk... but OP has spammed every rom thread nearly bugging about screen time. Nowadays its hard to get 6+ hours of screen time. Maybe switch to an older, dumber phone with not as sexy as display and you will have better luck. Or carry a spare battery... or strategically place chargers in common spots.
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I hate to be the jerk... but OP has spammed every rom thread nearly bugging about screen time. Nowadays its hard to get 6+ hours of screen time. Maybe switch to an older, dumber phone with not as sexy as display and you will have better luck. Or carry a spare battery... or strategically place chargers in common spots.
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Do i here snake Nokia phones?
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Im running liquid smooth and ktoonz kernel overclocked to 2.1ghz With max brightness here's my results
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Im running liquid smooth and ktoonz kernel overclocked to 2.1ghz With max brightness here's my results
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This isn't a battery screenshot thread. You charged your battery anyways.
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The only way i could probably make 6 hours screen on time would be to lower brightness all the way down, turn off data whenever Im not using it, turn of autosync, underclock and undervolt. But then what would be the point of me having such an awesome phone
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Because you CAN.
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The only way i could probably make 6 hours screen on time would be to lower brightness all the way down, turn off data whenever Im not using it, turn of autosync, underclock and undervolt. But then what would be the point of me having such an awesome phone
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I do all those things (-underclocking and undervolting), and more, because I don't need most of this on all the time, and my screen time is great. Plus, I bought a 4400mah extended battery & get 4-5 days on a single charge.
Then u need an old nokia.
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This isn't a battery screenshot thread. You charged your battery anyways.
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When you plug you phone in the charger the hours reset, my screenshots were to show that its not impossible to get 6+ hours, if I under clock and turn everything off I can probably get that.
The liquid smooth ROM has amazing battery life, you should give it a try I think you will like it.
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When you plug you phone in the charger the hours reset, my screenshots were to show that its not impossible to get 6+ hours, if I under clock and turn everything off I can probably get that.
The liquid smooth ROM has amazing battery life, you should give it a try I think you will like it.
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Screen shots are great guys. I do want to see them. Most importantly trying to see if there are deeper settings and apps to freeze or avoid and tweaks to build.prop etc.
Rom and kernel and modem used would be helpful.
Also, you did charge but the timer will only reset when you fully charge the phone.
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shehade08 said:
When you plug you phone in the charger the hours reset, my screenshots were to show that its not impossible to get 6+ hours, if I under clock and turn everything off I can probably get that.
The liquid smooth ROM has amazing battery life, you should give it a try I think you will like it.
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That's not true.. I just plugged mine in and the hours did not reset. I think they only reset after you hit in he high 90s
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That's not true.. I just plugged mine in and the hours did not reset. I think they only reset after you hit in he high 90s
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Oh really? Mine seems like it resets automatically...I guess I don't pay much attention to it
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This is most I can get with everything normal on ( data, sync, and music) I can reach six but I would have to under clock to 1.3-1.2ghz and turn off data.
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Figured I start a thread specifically for the T-Mobile variant. I will say that I'm pretty pleased with the battery life thus far. I hated having to give up the ease of some functionality just so my Samsung OG Epic 4G could make it through the day. Meaning, turning off bluetooth, live wallpaper, wifi, etc.
I feel like I haven't had to do that even though there is a battery saver mode already. I'm currently sitting at 54% and it's been a day since taking it off the charger.
I currently have all the bells and whistles going. Live wallpaper and facial recognition to unlock. S-Pen detection and the whole 9. Anyhow, just wanted to see what everyone else is getting.
I'd be happy with 6 hours screen on time
i had the galaxy s3 before the note 2 and i have noticed huge battery improvements
I was briefly reading through the manual and saw this:
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just thought I'd pass it along. I usually run my battery all the way down and let it die before recharging:
blazinazn said:
I was briefly reading through the manual and saw this:
Do not wait until your battery is completely depleted before
charging your device. Repeating this process of a complete
discharge and recharge can over time reduce the storage
capacity of any battery.
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just thought I'd pass it along. I usually run my battery all the way down and let it die before recharging:
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dam thanks i was about to do a few full discharge and full charge again, thanks for the info.
I'm not getting great battery life yet and have had the phone for over 24 hours since I picked it up yesterday morning. Can't pinpoint wjat could be draining it.
What do you guys think?
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mmorabe said:
I'm not getting great battery life yet and have had the phone for over 24 hours since I picked it up yesterday morning. Can't pinpoint wjat could be draining it.
What do you guys think?
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My guess wouod be your cell signal. Lot of yellow in there. Weaker signal means more battery drain
Good point. At work I'm on wifi but when it's not it is on edge
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All I have to say is wow.
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All I have to say is wow.
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Total screen on time?
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All I have to say is wow.
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Looks like my battery life on my S3 with the Anker 4400mah battery!
Fairly light usage while I was at work. I always run power saving mode and auto dim.
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Heres my battery
Here's mine.
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Unbelievable. Its DOUBLE what I get on my note 1. This is the first time i can remember in years not changing a battery during a day.
I have had WiFi on most of the time.
I never thought I would see 14 hours.
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The battery life on this is simply amazing. I am still shocked to see how good it is. I tried everything today to run it down. Barely even used WIFI today. Basically all 4G. Screen brightness was about 50% at least all day. Never below as well. Crazy awesome battery
My battery life is insane. Ive used my phone nonstop all day and its still going. I should easily get between 8-9 hours of onscreen time.
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Im Impressed
Pretty impressive!
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Pretty impressive!
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Agreed graveghoul.. I cant kill this thing. This is near tablet like battery life.
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Agreed graveghoul.. I cant kill this thing. This is near tablet like battery life.
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Me too. 6+ hours of screen time. No screenies at this time.
Not surpriesed though. Near tablet size should equal near tablet like battery life.
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I recently bought a GSM galaxy nexus (NTT DoCoMo version) and I use it on T-Mobile's prepaid network. The original battery that it came with was terrible.. Literally only lasted 7 hours regardless of screen on time. So I bought a stock Samsung battery off eBay thinking maybe it was a bad battery. No help whatsoever. I've flashed different ROMs, radios, and different kernels. Can anyone help me figure out what's going on? I had a Sprint Galaxy Nexus and I could get up to a day on the battery with 2.5 hours of screen on time so I know the Galaxy Nexus can last a long time. What's the deal?
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I recently bought a GSM galaxy nexus (NTT DoCoMo version) and I use it on T-Mobile's prepaid network. The original battery that it came with was terrible.. Literally only lasted 7 hours regardless of screen on time. So I bought a stock Samsung battery off eBay thinking maybe it was a bad battery. No help whatsoever. I've flashed different ROMs, radios, and different kernels. Can anyone help me figure out what's going on? I had a Sprint Galaxy Nexus and I could get up to a day on the battery with 2.5 hours of screen on time so I know the Galaxy Nexus can last a long time. What's the deal?
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What is the 'Battery' menu under Settings telling you?
shmoozie said:
I recently bought a GSM galaxy nexus (NTT DoCoMo version) and I use it on T-Mobile's prepaid network. The original battery that it came with was terrible.. Literally only lasted 7 hours regardless of screen on time. So I bought a stock Samsung battery off eBay thinking maybe it was a bad battery. No help whatsoever. I've flashed different ROMs, radios, and different kernels. Can anyone help me figure out what's going on? I had a Sprint Galaxy Nexus and I could get up to a day on the battery with 2.5 hours of screen on time so I know the Galaxy Nexus can last a long time. What's the deal?
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Could you post some info on battery drain statistics from battery settings tab or preferably gsam monitor over a full drain? I could probably help you out, just need some more info. Also try flashing fancy kernel if you haven't already. This is a newer kernel that gives the best battery life you'll find freshly flashed.
Before discharging toget battery stats I would try charging to 100% and using "battery calibration" by NeMa to clean your phone's batterystats file and then drain to zero with a screen flashlight or running gallery slideshow. This can always be a problem no matter how healthy your battery is.
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This is what I have showing for my battery so far. I flashed the newest radio last night and that seems to have helped a little bit with the battery. I have tried the battery calibration and it didn't really seem to help much.
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shmoozie said:
This is what I have showing for my battery so far. I flashed the newest radio last night and that seems to have helped a little bit with the battery. I have tried the battery calibration and it didn't really seem to help much.
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Try to flash stock rom,look like hardware battery problem.
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Try to flash stock rom,look like hardware battery problem.
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I have flashed a stock 4.2.2 ROM a week or so ago and I was still having this issue. I bought a new battery too and its still happening. Flashed the fancy kernel today and it seems to be helping a lot actually.
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The stock kernel performs way better then what you are experiencing. A custom kernel may help a bit, but it's not magic. I'd recommend using the app BetterBatteryStats in order to find out what's going on.
Do any of you think that me restoring apps would have anything to do with the battery drain? I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary in the GSAM battery stats but the battery drains way too quickly. 10% per hour even when I'm not using it..
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I have flashed a stock 4.2.2 ROM a week or so ago and I was still having this issue. I bought a new battery too and its still happening. Flashed the fancy kernel today and it seems to be helping a lot actually.
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Glad to hear that fancy kernel is helping. It's probably the closest thing to magic you'll find. I agree that 1 hour of screen time and under 12 hours is under par, but I was having these same issues 2 months ago and could not believe how crappy battery life was. It really got better though trying a bunch of different radios to find the right ones, using minimal gapps/resource hogging apps as possible, finding the right build.prop tweaks to use, and most helpful flashing some good reliable kernels like fancy and AK/anarkia that have incredibly useful customizations that stock just doesn't have, I.e., contrast and color settings, battery friendly governors and frequency profiles, optimized smart-reflex, and custom regulator voltages for display.
Well, didn't feel like it lasted too long. Fell asleep with my battery at 33%, woke up 3 hours later and it's dead. I'm ready to throw this phone out the window.
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100% no data connection and 100% no or unknown signal. I have almost full bars. WHAT THE HELL
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I've tried to find a rom and kerneI that would help with battery too, nothing made that much of a difference though. I use the 2x battery saver app now. I get at least double the battery life sometimes more.
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100% no data connection and 100% no or unknown signal. I have almost full bars. WHAT THE HELL
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I see you got the app. Good. Now a few minutes isn't enough time to gather reliable stats. Review the results after a full drain cycle of the battery. Check partial wakelocks and alarms for suspicious activity.
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I see you got the app. Good. Now a few minutes isn't enough time to gather reliable stats. Review the results after a full drain cycle of the battery. Check partial wakelocks and alarms for suspicious activity.
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Here's what was listed on BBS after a full drain. Do you see anything unusual? I turned my data on and kept it on 2G to prevent the no or unknown signal from eating more battery but that was the only change. Battery life still looks terrible.
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Here's what was listed on BBS after a full drain. Do you see anything unusual? I turned my data on and kept it on 2G to prevent the no or unknown signal from eating more battery but that was the only change. Battery life still looks terrible.
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I'm missing screenshots of partial wakelocks and alarms.
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Could you post some info on battery drain statistics from battery settings tab or preferably gsam monitor over a full drain? I could probably help you out, just need some more info. Also try flashing fancy kernel if you haven't already. This is a newer kernel that gives the best battery life you'll find freshly flashed.
Before discharging toget battery stats I would try charging to 100% and using "battery calibration" by NeMa to clean your phone's batterystats file and then drain to zero with a screen flashlight or running gallery slideshow. This can always be a problem no matter how healthy your battery is.
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No need for the snake oil app, as simply unplugging the phone after a full charge wipes battery stats. Wiping battery stats and draining to zero aren't going to have any bearing whatsoever on this issue and would needlessly shorten the battery's serviceable lifespan.
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I'm missing screenshots of partial wakelocks and alarms.
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Whoops.. I forgot to screenshot those. I'll get those later today. So I put my phone in airplane mode to see if maybe it was the reception... Phone kept draining. I will try to wipe everything off the phone later and not install any apps and see if that helps.
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According to these stats, it looks like Google talk and the calendar are my biggest wake locks? I disabled Google talk, turned off location history for Google maps last night, what should I do about the calendar? I feel like my phone is becoming useless because I have disabled so many things.
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Forgot to add these, if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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