hello guys. just a question that keeps running through my mind.
when i opened the box, i saw a card that says before using the phone, charge at least 30 mins.
after buying the phone, i tested it, checked if there are any damages and do the service test. i didn't follow the 30 mins charging.
when my phone is about to be discharged, i just charged it up to 60%. because of time constraints, i didn't managed to charge it fully.
now my question is, will the battery life of my phone be affected? because i discharge too quickly. and its really annoying. if i didn't follow the 30 mins charging, will it decrease the battery life of my phone?
sorry guys, im just a bit paranoid.
thanks for any help. :good:
Do not worry at all. Nothing wrong will happen with your battery. To attain the maximum output from the battery you need to wait at least 7-10 days and charge the battery to full cycle for couple of times.
Battery back up will increase the more you charge the battery. So don't worry.
just hitted the thanks button buddy. so, i must charge my phone up to 100% for 7-10 days to achieve its capacity?
so i must not worry at all. thanks buddy.
Before using it regularly it's better to charge it to 100%. And about 7-10 days that i said because, the battery needs to complete few charge cycle to attain the full capacity.
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Hi All, I have question. Which one better to charge
1. Wait until Battery level reach 15% or less
2. Charge it every we want it, example battery status in 40% because we want to travelling, we charge it until 100%
3. Charge it every morning
4. Other Tips?
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Jauhari
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You should just plug it in when ever you have the chance m8.
Li-ion and lipo batteries does not suffer from the memory effect as nicd and nimh batteries did.
The li-ion and lipo batteries will most likely die if you do a full discharge, but no worries, when your phone tells you that it's out of power, it's not fully discharged.
Your phone has at built in protection, that shuts down the phone before it uses all the power on the battery.
(Have been working with batterie for many years, as I have been flying eletric model airplanes, with all types of batteries)
There are a huge number of threads on this!
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You should just plug it in when ever you have the chance m8.
Li-ion and lipo batteries does not suffer from the memory effect as nicd and nimh batteries did.
The li-ion and lipo batteries will most likely die if you do a full discharge, but no worries, when your phone tells you that it's out of power, it's not fully discharged.
Your phone has at built in protection, that shuts down the phone before it uses all the power on the battery.
(Have been working with batterie for many years, as I have been flying eletric model airplanes, with all types of batteries)
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Thanks you for this tips... now I have more knowledge about battery.
A little bit question again.
What should I do, when I charge my HTC Desire? Keep this gadget turn on or turn off this gadget and turn on again when the charging has completed?
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I am sorry for doing the some question. I was tried to search on this forum but I can't find it... this forum search didn't good jobs
jauhari said:
Thanks you for this tips... now I have more knowledge about battery.
A little bit question again.
What should I do, when I charge my HTC Desire? Keep this gadget turn on or turn off this gadget and turn on again when the charging has completed?
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Just keep it turned on m8.
leaving it on has a disadvantage
as soon as battery is full, it discharges. at a certain point it would charge again.
you lose unneccessary charging cycles for your battery. so charge over night with turned off handset.
Not true really. The life of Li-ion batteries is mainly rated in full charge/discharge cycles between what the manufacturer recommends as the limits. Fox max life this is often a maximum of 80%SOC and min of 20%. They ship them about 40% SOC as this is where they have longest shelf life. The phone manages these limits for you so you don't need to worry. The best thing to do is to keep it topped up but let it run down enough during the day, or it reduces battery life (think laptop that gets left plugged in Vs one that gets discharged a bit per day - leaving it plugged in kills the battery).
IMHO - Use it until your next at a charger be that at 70% or 7%.
JAmes.
This thread here might be a good reference for this topic.
jauhari said:
Hi All, I have question. Which one better to charge
1. Wait until Battery level reach 15% or less
2. Charge it every we want it, example battery status in 40% because we want to travelling, we charge it until 100%
3. Charge it every morning
4. Other Tips?
Best Regards
Jauhari
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1. I always try to charge it 10-15%
2. Sometimes i do charge it if the battery is 40% and im worried it might not last because i go somwhere, so charge it till full and unplug
3. Most of the time i charge it over night having the phone on.
Right now, end of day 2 and battery level is at 29%, probably due to 3g turned off as got connection failed error for couple days and cant connect :<
Put my new second battery to charge last night around 9pm - turned Desire off. The green light came after midnight, but I let the charger stay on. I disconnected the cable around 9am this morning - and the phone was on!!
It looks the phone turns on automatically when its fully charged(???!!!)
The charge was 94% with the green light on. Makes me doubt if the suggested (see other threads) initial charge needs to be 12hours. :/
So, I bought another battery. Will this sort it?
Also, what's the usual procedure?
Should I charge the battery to full in the phone (turned off) then boot, set up, then charge again and reset battery stats?
The problem is that the battery control chip doesn't take into account that the battery ages.
Resetting battery stats or charging while turned off will only clear the stats you see in the settings menu. This guide will make your battery drain to 0% again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534892
I don't know what a new battery will do though.
I gathered that, but as the phone is going to a new user (my stepson) we got him a new battery anyway
I just wondered what the correct procedure is. I know you need to do a first charge with a new battery, as with a new phone, however, this phone obviously has a working ROM already on it.
So, the phone is charging now, switched off. Should I turn it on, use a little, then use the battery calibration app to delete the stats and then drain to 0%?
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I know you need to do a first charge with a new battery, as with a new phone
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Well, that assumption is probably inherited from the NiHM batteries in the past, because it's not needed with Li-Ion batteries. In fact charging to 80% is better than charging to 100% and keeping it plugged in.
You can read more about it here and here.
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So, the phone is charging now, switched off. Should I turn it on, use a little, then use the battery calibration app to delete the stats and then drain to 0%?
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Just charge it and use it for a full cycle. If it shuts down at 15%, you can try the battery calibration from the thread I mentioned above. If it doesn't, you're battery capacity is the same as the one the battery chip has calculated, which is good.
So, why does the first charge take so long?
This thing is still charging and it's been on the charger for 3 hours, whereas usually it'd be charged fully by now.
Been like that for every Li-Ion battery I've ever had (including my S3, took around 6 hours to charge, usually takes 3).
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Just to clarify, I don't intend on leaving it past the green light. As soon as it says it's full I'll be taking it off charge and not trying ot overcharge it. But I still have the orange charging light after 3-4 hours.
To be honest, I don't know. Maybe it's a safety to prevent overcharging. Coincidentally, I've got exactly the same issue now. I asked about it in the calibration thread. I suppose it's normal, but I'm not sure about that.
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So, why does the first charge take so long?
This thing is still charging and it's been on the charger for 3 hours, whereas usually it'd be charged fully by now.
Been like that for every Li-Ion battery I've ever had (including my S3, took around 6 hours to charge, usually takes 3).
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Just to clarify, I don't intend on leaving it past the green light. As soon as it says it's full I'll be taking it off charge and not trying ot overcharge it. But I still have the orange charging light after 3-4 hours.
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my battery took just over 6 hours to charge the other day from completly dead
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So my question is basically asked in the title already.
But to get you all you all to the background story, I use my gnex 5 days in a week as alarm, (2 days off, thank god i can sleep little longer in the weekend), but sometimes my gnex is nog fully recharged or has not that much battery left to hold on the whole night till my alarm will ring and wake me up.
So is it harmful to my battery when it recharges the whole night or is there some kind of system that will prevent the phone from recharging when its full?
Teoctist
Teoctist said:
So my question is basically asked in the title already.
But to get you all you all to the background story, I use my gnex 5 days in a week as alarm, (2 days off, thank god i can sleep little longer in the weekend), but sometimes my gnex is nog fully recharged or has not that much battery left to hold on the whole night till my alarm will ring and wake me up.
So is it harmful to my battery when it recharges the whole night or is there some kind of system that will prevent the phone from recharging when its full?
Teoctist
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First of all, all Li-ion batteries will stop charging when they're full, second, if you haven't noticed yet, try to look at your battery percent after a night of charging, it will almost never be at 100% but 98-99, and that is because the GN reflects the real state of the battery, unlike other phones in which you'll see the batt at 100% once you unplug it, but it'll drop to 98 in 10 seconds, the GN will stop charging when the batt reaches 100 and restart charging when it reaches 98 again, so, the battery will never overcharge, and to your question - no, this will not decrease your battery's life, of course not using the battery at all may help, but that's just stupid, charge you phone as much as you want, that's what it's there for, and even if you think your battery is gone (theoretically after 5 years of use..) then just buy another one.
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First of all, all Li-ion batteries will stop charging when they're full, second, if you haven't noticed yet, try to look at your battery percent after a night of charging, it will almost never be at 100% but 98-99, and that is because the GN reflects the real state of the battery, unlike other phones in which you'll see the batt at 100% once you unplug it, but it'll drop to 98 in 10 seconds, the GN will stop charging when the batt reaches 100 and restart charging when it reaches 98 again, so, the battery will never overcharge, and to your question - no, this will not decrease your battery's life, of course not using the battery at all may help, but that's just stupid, charge you phone as much as you want, that's what it's there for, and even if you think your battery is gone (theoretically after 5 years of use..) then just buy another one.
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The answer could not have been more perfect! Thanks!
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The answer could not have been more perfect! Thanks!
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Couldn't be more happy to help!
Hi, My battery used to stay at 100% for at least 20 min with minor use after taking it off the charger. Now, it drops fairly quickly to 97% with the same usage. Overall I think I am left with the same percentage at the end of the day, but I was wondering if anyone else experienced this.
How old is the battery, are you leaving it on the charger for long periods after it's fully charged. Their longevity wears down so it's going to happen. But you can take some steps to stretch it out to the max. Mine goes from 100% to 95-96% in about 30-45 minutes right now
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How old is the battery, are you leaving it on the charger for long periods after it's fully charged. Their longevity wears down so it's going to happen. But you can take some steps to stretch it out to the max. Mine goes from 100% to 95-96% in about 30-45 minutes right now
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Thanks, Its about a month old. It is on the charger for at least several hours after its fully charged. Also, I am completely stock.
Just curious, is your device idle in the 30 min that it takes it to go from 100% to 95%? If not are you doing intensive stuff to takes it to 95%?
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Thanks, Its about a month old. It is on the charger for at least several hours after its fully charged. Also, I am completely stock.
Just curious, is your device idle in the 30 min that it takes it to go from 100% to 95%? If not are you doing intensive stuff to takes it to 95%?
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Yeah mostly idle, just running back ground tasks and such. Very minimal use.
Also I think leaving it on the charger for long periods of time reduces the life span of the battery as well. That's why it notifies you to take it off when it's fully charged. And I believe I read that somewhere else also.
But also if you leave it charging all night the phone may say 100% however the phone to prevent it self from charging the battery to long it stops charging it and let's it drain from 90% to 100% and slowly charges it back up. So as not to damage the battery. It keeps following that loop to keep your battery running longer so the first 10% can sometimes be misleading but it's nothing to worry about
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This was fairly common on the SGS2.
The common way to fix it on that device was to charge it to 100%, then unplug it and plug it back in and wait until it gets to 100% again. Do this 3-5 times and the problem should be gone. It is worth a shot on the SGS4
This can happen when flashing ROMs while your battery is not full, though this is not the only way for this to occur.
I like that last one. Gotta try it out.
The kernel stops charging at 100 percent and doesn't start again until it guys 95. What you're reading as your percentage level is not the exact levels
Say you unplug at what you think is 100 percent but in reality it's actually 98 percent, the software quickly relays this back to the user and adjusts the battery levels accordingly making you think it just drained 2 percent really quickly.
The whole reason it does this is to percent over charging the battery. That will greatly shorten it's life cycle or even worse blow up your battery
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Hi, I recently bought a Lenovo P2, and so far it seems to me to be a great device.
The battery is great and I usually go to sleep with a 65-70% of charge.
So I have a doubt: Should I charge the phone every night, even if the battery is half charged, or should I wait the battery to reach 25-30% and then charge it?
Also, Does the fast charge ruin the battery if often used?
Thanks
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Hi, I recently bought a Lenovo P2, and so far it seems to me to be a great device.
The battery is great and I usually go to sleep with a 65-70% of charge.
So I have a doubt: Should I charge the phone every night, even if the battery is half charged, or should I wait the battery to reach 25-30% and then charge it?
Also, Does the fast charge ruin the battery if often used?
Thanks
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Wait for 25 to 30 percent and charge till 80 to 85 percent. It'll make your phone battery last really long!!!!
Why not till 100%?
Because these batteries are at their best between 20 and 80%. They don't like being run right down and charging them to 100% increases the wear on them.
So they will last longer by keeping them between 20 and 80%.
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Because these batteries are at their best between 20 and 80%. They don't like being run right down and charging them to 100% increases the wear on them.
So they will last longer by keeping them between 20 and 80%.
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So, those tricks I've read, about discharging till 15% and charging to 100% to calibrate battery, are useless?
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So, those tricks I've read, about discharging till 15% and charging to 100% to calibrate battery, are useless?
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You read it wrong. To recalibrate the battery you must fully discharge ie. to 0% till the phone shuts down by itself, not to 15%. You can fully discharge once per month. To prolong the battery life span try to charge from 20 to 80%. I know charging up to 100% is nice, but all experts tell us that it's not good for the battery in a long run.
Even partially charging from 20 to 80% you still have ~8-10h SOT so all is fine, 2-3 days on a battery are possible.