Hi, My battery used to stay at 100% for at least 20 min with minor use after taking it off the charger. Now, it drops fairly quickly to 97% with the same usage. Overall I think I am left with the same percentage at the end of the day, but I was wondering if anyone else experienced this.
How old is the battery, are you leaving it on the charger for long periods after it's fully charged. Their longevity wears down so it's going to happen. But you can take some steps to stretch it out to the max. Mine goes from 100% to 95-96% in about 30-45 minutes right now
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Saintfyre said:
How old is the battery, are you leaving it on the charger for long periods after it's fully charged. Their longevity wears down so it's going to happen. But you can take some steps to stretch it out to the max. Mine goes from 100% to 95-96% in about 30-45 minutes right now
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Thanks, Its about a month old. It is on the charger for at least several hours after its fully charged. Also, I am completely stock.
Just curious, is your device idle in the 30 min that it takes it to go from 100% to 95%? If not are you doing intensive stuff to takes it to 95%?
mikea3000 said:
Thanks, Its about a month old. It is on the charger for at least several hours after its fully charged. Also, I am completely stock.
Just curious, is your device idle in the 30 min that it takes it to go from 100% to 95%? If not are you doing intensive stuff to takes it to 95%?
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Yeah mostly idle, just running back ground tasks and such. Very minimal use.
Also I think leaving it on the charger for long periods of time reduces the life span of the battery as well. That's why it notifies you to take it off when it's fully charged. And I believe I read that somewhere else also.
But also if you leave it charging all night the phone may say 100% however the phone to prevent it self from charging the battery to long it stops charging it and let's it drain from 90% to 100% and slowly charges it back up. So as not to damage the battery. It keeps following that loop to keep your battery running longer so the first 10% can sometimes be misleading but it's nothing to worry about
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This was fairly common on the SGS2.
The common way to fix it on that device was to charge it to 100%, then unplug it and plug it back in and wait until it gets to 100% again. Do this 3-5 times and the problem should be gone. It is worth a shot on the SGS4
This can happen when flashing ROMs while your battery is not full, though this is not the only way for this to occur.
I like that last one. Gotta try it out.
The kernel stops charging at 100 percent and doesn't start again until it guys 95. What you're reading as your percentage level is not the exact levels
Say you unplug at what you think is 100 percent but in reality it's actually 98 percent, the software quickly relays this back to the user and adjusts the battery levels accordingly making you think it just drained 2 percent really quickly.
The whole reason it does this is to percent over charging the battery. That will greatly shorten it's life cycle or even worse blow up your battery
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Well lets say my battery is 35% when i get home, it takes about 45 mins to get to 95% then from there takes about 2 hours to get to 100%. Running CM7 on the Telus DHD.
I dont know if this happened with stock as i rooted as soon as i opened it
Try downloading CurrentWidget and then charge your phone until there are zero milliamperes showing on the widget. Then wipe your battery stats and reboot. This should calibrate the readings to be a bit more sensible/accurate, for both usage and charging.
As the battery is charging and nearing full capacity the current slows down thus making the charging process slower.
ErOR22 said:
As the battery is charging and nearing full capacity the current slows down thus making the charging process slower.
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This does make sense. Guess im just too used to the iphone
equlizer said:
This does make sense. Guess im just too used to the iphone
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It's not iOS, Android or WP7 - all Li-Ion batteries have to be charged that way. Just one of these OSes preffers not to give accurate information to its users about baterry charge, signal strenght etc. What you don't know can't hurt you seems to be Apple's moto. Still 2 hours for 95% to 100% is too much.
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Well lets say my battery is 35% when i get home, it takes about 45 mins to get to 95% then from there takes about 2 hours to get to 100%. Running CM7 on the Telus DHD.
I dont know if this happened with stock as i rooted as soon as i opened it
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About 2.5 hours is what I'd expect it to take to charge from 35%
k well today i got home and the batt was 35% (heavy usage) and it only took about 45 mins to get to 90%. From there it goes much slower.
Going to CM7 I had the same problem with my battery being at 95%. I'm planning to drain completely, wipe battery stats immediately, then doing a full charge.
mine only takes just under 2hrs charging from empty to 100%.
It depends if you're charging it through your computer or the wall. If i charge mine through the computer it takes about 3 hours if the battery is completely empty. If i charge it through the wall, it uses about half the time, but the battery empties much faster. Some phones has so called "speed charging". That means that you can choose between good battery life but long chargr, or short charge time but bad battery life. It depends on how you charge it.
But, two hours from 95% is not normal.
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in4ra said:
Going to CM7 I had the same problem with my battery being at 95%. I'm planning to drain completely, wipe battery stats immediately, then doing a full charge.
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This might be a clue to the cause of the problem. I'm now running stock ROM and being in the process of deciding if I should go for Revolution HD or stay on stock, I read numerous posts of battery stats problems. I think the OP should try to wipe the battery stats and see if that would help.
I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but when I unplug my phone after charging it overnight, it gets to 90% or so in around 30 minutes without use, and goes down at a fast rate throughout the day. If I charge it and unplug it exactly when it hits 100%, I can use the phone fairly regularly and it will take around 2 hours to get down to 90%, and depletes from there very slowly. What's the reason for this, and is there any way I can get the same battery life when leaving the phone overnight?
Running CM7 with incredikernel, although my phone has been this way with countless ROMs and kernels.
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I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but when I unplug my phone after charging it overnight, it gets to 90% or so in around 30 minutes without use, and goes down at a fast rate throughout the day. If I charge it and unplug it exactly when it hits 100%, I can use the phone fairly regularly and it will take around 2 hours to get down to 90%, and depletes from there very slowly. What's the reason for this, and is there any way I can get the same battery life when leaving the phone overnight?
Running CM7 with incredikernel, although my phone has been this way with countless ROMs and kernels.
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Short answer: Yes, you will see better battery life, and no there is not really any foolproof way to make it work if you leave it on the charger after it hits 100%.
Long answer: The Incredible has a battery saver feature built in that prevents over charging by cutting off charge to the battery when it hits 100% (actually 96% according to the people who figured all this out and are way smarter than I am) and doesn't let it start to recharge until it hits 80%. The reason, when you take it off in the morning, it drops so fast is because it is no longer actually at 100%, but has dropped to a legitimate ~90% since having hit the "100%" threshold.
There are some kernels out there that do allow "trickle charging" meaning they keep the phone at a legit 100%, but I don't think many have seen much success using them with the Incredible.
I get around this by charging a bit at night (using anywhere between 80-100%), leaving it off the charger until morning (I usually drop only around 4-5% per 8 hour night) and plug it back in while I get ready and eat breakfast. This usually puts me around 95-100% depending how much I was able to charge the night before and seems to be a much more simple way to handle it than bump charging in my opinion.
search first. It has been asked multiple times.
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search first. It has been asked multiple times.
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I've seen similar topics regarding the quick drop from 100 to 90%, but the battery life as a whole seems to be much longer when it's taken off the charger immediately after it hits 100%. There's so many topics on here, I can't find exactly what I'm talking about, so it's difficult to judge. I'll definitely try the tip in the second post though. Thanks!
It will charge it up to 100% but it won't stay there if you keep it in. It'll let the phone die down to 90% then it'll keep it at that level.
So yes if you unplug it when it first hits 100% you will have a full 100% battery. If you let it sit for much longer than it'll be at 90%
It's been said that leaving it on charger for a while after fully charged messes with the battery meter.
I always bump charge. Charge it full while on then power off and charge till green lights on. Def gets me more batt life. Im getting 24+ hours on a single charge under normal usage with UD 3.1.1.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051&highlight=lying
That should help you out!
I've never seen anything like this. My battery literally dropped 6 percent in a split second while I was looking at the %. Is this a manufacturer defect, would a factory reset do anything to help? Please Help.
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I've never seen anything like this. My battery literally dropped 6 percent in a split second while I was looking at the %. Is this a manufacturer defect, would a factory reset do anything to help? Please Help.
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No, not necessarily. It takes time for a system to properly calibrate the battery. You should always give it a few full charge cycles before assuming you have a problem.
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No, not necessarily. It takes time for a system to properly calibrate the battery. You should always give it a few full charge cycles before assuming you have a problem.
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This.
I wouldn't worry about it it likely hasn't calibrated yet, I've seen many of my devices do this, especially new or freshly wiped
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You are overreacting. Large amount of power consumption in short time isn't unheard of. For example, it has been reported that phone searching for connections and syncing everything at once can cause large drops in battery meter. And battery meter isn't always accurate anyway.
If the battery drops more drastically and happens more than a couple of times, then I would worry.
My tablet does the same too it either goes from 78 to 76 or just skips from 30 to 26 randomly
The first day I got it, the battery went from ~50 to ~60. You read that right...it went up without charging. Just let the battery settle and it will become perfectly normal again.
Mine does the same, drop from 33% to 23% instantly. and while charging, it jumps from 94% to 100% too. But i do get 9:30 hrs use time with Chrome.
Still in the return period window, not sure to return it or not.
I think that the battery percentage sometimes freezes and doesnt update right. So once the software finally gets a good reading or update it will suddenly change alot. I had it stay at 85% for like 3 hours and was thinging, AWESOME this is amazing, then 15 minutes later it was at 50% and i was like, oh, damn it was just playing mind games with me.
The battery gauge doesn't really 'know' the charge state of the battery, it's just guessing more or less accurately based on a model of the battery.
It takes things like battery voltage, load, temperature, voltage change with varying load (to estimate internal resistance of the battery) to basically make an 'educated' guess of the charge state. There can be pretty big corrections of that guess - a 10% jump is very normal. It doesn't mean the battery charge state has changed, it just means the battery gauge has corrected it's estimate.
during charging, i seen that it increased 1% per every 4~6 mins from 1% to 94%, then it jumped to 100% from 94% in the next 6 mins.
It also skipped percentage 4~6 times while charging from 1% to 94%, 1% per skip.
I used Batterybot pro to monitor the battery, it will logs when the percentage has changed, that's how i know it was doing this.
my galaxy tab pro 8.4 stops charging at 96%....
i always charge it from 10 - 15% to 100% by switching of the device...from past week it always stops at 96 and when i switch it on it goes to 100 in a cou[le of minutes...what i s to be done ..i calibrated also..no change..
Yep, you have custom rom? that's usually what happens.
I have the slim rom and mine is like that, I just unplug and then plug back in does the trick
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Yep, you have custom rom? that's usually what happens.
I have the slim rom and mine is like that, I just unplug and then plug back in does the trick
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Custom rom has nothing to do with it. I am running the stock version, and my battery won't charge up more than 64% right now. It seems the problem starts with 96/94% but gets progressively worse. Sometimes it will fix it self for a short time when I replug, but right now even that doesn't work for me.
I checked last night, and I believe the kernel just thinks the battery is nearing it's 100% state. This was a screenshot I took that shows that the battery isn't charging at full power. The closer I got to 64%, the slower the charge went:
i.imgur.com/P2i0R9s.png (Copy and paste, I am not allowed to post outside links yet..)
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Custom rom has nothing to do with it. I am running the stock version, and my battery won't charge up more than 64% right now. It seems the problem starts with 96/94% but gets progressively worse. Sometimes it will fix it self for a short time when I replug, but right now even that doesn't work for me.
I checked last night, and I believe the kernel just thinks the battery is nearing it's 100% state. This was a screenshot I took that shows that the battery isn't charging at full power. The closer I got to 64%, the slower the charge went:
i.imgur.com/P2i0R9s.png (Copy and paste, I am not allowed to post outside links yet..)
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Have you tried just using the tablet when it was "fully" charged to 64%? I see three possibilities and I would be curious to know was the case:
1) Your battery is only charging to 64% and when you start using it, it will decrease at a normal rate and you'll get 1/3 less time out of the charge.
2) Your battery is showing 64% for all charges >= 64%. So, it could be at 100% charged and will stay at 64% until you've used up 36% of your battery.
3) It is scaling wrong so that 64% == 100% and the battery percentage will decrease as you use the tablet, but it will decrease 1/3 slower than it used to (aka the time from 100% to 0% when you first bought it would be the same as your time now from 64% to 0%).
Any idea which of those three is actually happening?
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Have you tried just using the tablet when it was "fully" charged to 64%? I see three possibilities and I would be curious to know was the case:
1) Your battery is only charging to 64% and when you start using it, it will decrease at a normal rate and you'll get 1/3 less time out of the charge.
2) Your battery is showing 64% for all charges >= 64%. So, it could be at 100% charged and will stay at 64% until you've used up 36% of your battery.
3) It is scaling wrong so that 64% == 100% and the battery percentage will decrease as you use the tablet, but it will decrease 1/3 slower than it used to (aka the time from 100% to 0% when you first bought it would be the same as your time now from 64% to 0%).
Any idea which of those three is actually happening?
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Definitely the first one. Right now I am at about 35% and have 2.5-3 hours screen time since the 64% (can't check for a definitive screentime as the indicator doesn't reset unless you charge to 100%). So that would translate to the about 7.5-8 hours I get when I do have a full charge.
I also checked once before when I had this issue by letting my battery completely discharge and then start up my tablet again and I had 1% left, so it was pretty much completely drained. I'll probably charge it again tonight and I expect I will have an even lower full battery percentage.
Try using a different 2amp charger and/or different cable
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The only real fix for this opening the back up and unplugging the battery. When you plug it back in you won't see the problem again. Not sure why.... But that's how I fixed mine. Been good for two months now.
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Try using a different 2amp charger and/or different cable
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Also tried that already. Still only charges up to a lower percentage. Only thing I haven't tried is unplugging the entire battery.
It charged up to 100% for some reason last night. The only thing that is really weird that it charged 1% every five minutes from like 85-95% and then suddenly in the last 5 minutes it instantly charged from 95 to 100%. The whole battery thing is just really weird.
Did anyone else notice a reduction in charging speed (wired and wireless) post recent update? I'm on an unlocked note 10+.
Yes, but I think it is just the calibrated timer.
Indicated 1½ hours which went up to over 4hrs, phone charged to 100% in just over an hour.
So the phone still charges very quickly.
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After the last update, my device charges at the same speed, I have never started a charge from zero, as I always try to avoid it due to unnecessary battery wear, but from 20% to 100% it takes some ~43 minutes, but I have only charged to 100% two times, again, to avoid unnecessary batt wear
What's the recommended charge threshold? when and how ?
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I have read several posts and articles, most important of all, NEVER let the battery go to ZERO, try charging when around 20% , and try to avoid reaching 100% all the time, but the really important is to avoid depleting the battery repeatedly
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What's the recommended charge threshold? when and how ?
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20 to 80 percent or 30 to 80 percent
As slow as possible
I've heard of all of these battery preserving charge parameters to keep it between 20 to 80% etc every device I've ever owned I have Let die completely or get to least 10% before charging. I also always charge all of my devices to 100% Max and have yet to find any kind of battery depletion issues where I've been able to notice a problem or where it's caused concern.
to each their own and it's good that people take caution in preserving the life of their phone but I usually don't hold on to my phone for 2 to 3 years and I've never noticed any battery depletion problems from going to zero to a hundred regularly.
I am seeing the same in charging speeds. 45w charger still right around an hour for 5% to 100% for me