Hi all,
I am proud to be a small silent part of this community and to see how much the Galaxy W has grown due to the collective work of our members. I feel like the phone has damn near doubled it's value now with all the custom ROMs, kernels, tweaks, etc, etc that have been implemented in such a short time. Really, I can't see how this phone could be any faster! That being said I feel their is a void in resources dedicated to focusing on battery life while still retaining acceptable speed.
Moving on to Kernel 3.X has really brought great features and speed to our phone, but at the cost of extreme battery loss. It's early on in it's development, so I think there is room for improvement. I have noticed that members are starting to complain about battery life and I for one agree that this is a problem. I wanted to open a forum where we could collect ideas here so our precious phones could ideally make it through the day (or at least a half of a day!).
Anyway, I hope this will be a good jumping off point for discussing. I only ask if members could refrain from the old, "Just change the battery!" unless the user is reporting the battery is more pregnant then a Kardashian sporting twins.
Ideas
Some ideas to post about
ROM
Kernel
Governor
I/O SCHEDULERS
Tweaks
Apps
It would really help if contribute ideas on how to improve our battery life even for just a little.
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I've had some success using conservative + row.
I'm really hoping to find a kernel that has more optimized conservative governors. Anyone have any tweaked conservative governor experience? I was looking at Scary or Lion heart, etc?
Btw I'm on RC 6 + Chronos kernel.
tebor8 said:
I've had some success using conservative + row.
I'm really hoping to find a kernel that has more optimized conservative governors. Anyone have any tweaked conservative governor experience? I was looking at Scary or Lion heart, etc?
Btw I'm on RC 6 + Chronos kernel.
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I'm going to try Governor: Conservative. Is it better than SmartassV2? Anyway, I'm going to find out, just finishing the charge to 100%. I'm gonna test on CM10 Alpha 6 + Athena Kernel. Will report back after draining.
Okey bro, im using smartassv2 with athena on cm10. I'll post my observation here.
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Btw how much brightness are u guys using?
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I'd love to get a CM9 or CM10 RC7 with 2.6 kernel along with a kernel 3.0 version for people who loves kernel 3.0
I am not asking to develop 2.6 kernel further. Previous 2.6 kernel is very good, but we need a ROM (base updated/sources updated) which can support 2.6 kernel fully. 2.6 Kernel was giving me much better battery life compared to kernel 3.
i tried flashing respective 2.6 kernels on CM9 and CM10 RC6. It seems to work fine but if i plug the usb cable to pc then all memory cards get unmounted. ie.. i can't copy files to phone or vice verse. I hope arco gives us a updated source for 2.6 kernel with RC7 release..
My suggestions for better battery life:
1. First thing first: make sure your battery is not dying; if it's bulging, replace it immediately.
2. Use a kernel that's undervolt-able. I use ICS, and Yoon.Kernel is perfect for me.
2a. Then, undervolt your phone. The Incredicontrol app is usually compatible with the method used by your kernel. Or, read the kernel's thread to find out which app to use.
3. Use Greenify (app) to 'hibernate' apps you don't need to run in the background at all times.
4. If you have the money (and can purchase apps via the Play), purchase "Autostarter" and disable apps' starting points. You should focus on the "After Startup" and "Connection Changed" events.
5. Every now and then, while the phone is on, turn off all data connection (wifi or 2G/3G), turn off sync, and let your phone charge to 100% *and* keep charging for awhile (trickle charging, 1-2 hours should be enough), then let the battery drain until your phone shuts down (by using it normally). Let the phone cool down, plug it into the charger, and power it on, and let it charge until 100% again.
6. Use BetterBatteryStats regularly to find apps consuming too much power and/or holding wakelocks too often; complain to the app maker, and replace it if the maker won't/can't change it.
7. Remember to turn off wifi and/or use 2G only mode when you're no longer using them.
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Pep, with full respect to your suggestions that are legit, but this can´t fix the battery drain issue CM9 is having with it´s new 3.X kernel.
They all will reduce the battery drain of course,but wont bring it down to the level you will reach with 2.6 kernel.
I´m still not sure what exactly is causing this, but in my case it´s for sure not my batteries nor other apps causing this.
As I already posted in the Bug report threat, I now flashed RC6 by going totally pristine. Formated both SD Cards and whiped everything, just installed BatteryMonitorWidget to control the battery drain. It´s twice as hight in DeepSleep compared to RC2 and RC3 with it´s old 2.6 kernel.
So first of all we need to narrow down what exactly is causing this.
Therefore I suggest to install first the BatteryMonitorWidget to comapare our results and to share the settings whe have changed after installing RC6 the pristine way.
First my configuration:
1. SDCards swapped
2. Dithering disabled
3. 16-bit Transparency enabled
4. Freeing up resurces enabled
5. Kernel sample Merging enabled
6. Zram disabled
7. default governor and scheduler
8. Syncing Accounts disabled
9. Updates and notifications in GooglePlay disabled
10. Wlan and MobileData disabled
11. Baseband XXLMB
My results with 2.6 Kernel are:
~16mA at daytime in DeepSleep
~ 5-8mA at night in DeepSleep
with kernel 3.x
constantly ~35 - 50mA in DeepSleep
and I checked it´s really in DeepSleep Mode.
So it looks like the radio is consuming more power while keeping the phone connected with the radiostation while the phone is in DeepSleep.
but....
I once also tested hadi´s 1.6 yoon Kernel with RC2, which is basing on Arcos RC2 kernel. By using the Ondemand govarnor in his kernel to compare the battery consumprion against Arcos Ondemand governor, hadis Ondemand governor also comsumed more than Arcos Ondemand Governor. With his OndemandX givernor the consumption was pretty much the same like with Arcos Ondemand.
So maybe it´s also something that changed in Arcos ondemand governor in 3.x kernel.
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Pep, with full respect to your suggestions that are legit, but this can´t fix the battery drain issue CM9 is having with it´s new 3.X kernel.
They all will reduce the battery drain of course,but wont bring it down to the level you will reach with 2.6 kernel.
I´m still not sure what exactly is causing this, but in my case it´s for sure not my batteries nor other apps causing this.
As I already posted in the Bug report threat, I now flashed RC6 by going totally pristine. Formated both SD Cards and whiped everything, just installed BatteryMonitorWidget to control the battery drain. It´s twice as hight in DeepSleep compared to RC2 and RC3 with it´s old 2.6 kernel.
So first of all we need to narrow down what exactly is causing this.
Therefore I suggest to install first the BatteryMonitorWidget to comapare our results and to share the settings whe have changed after installing RC6 the pristine way.
First my configuration:
1. SDCards swapped
2. Dithering disabled
3. 16-bit Transparency enabled
4. Freeing up resurces enabled
5. Kernel sample Merging enabled
6. Zram disabled
7. default governor and scheduler
8. Syncing Accounts disabled
9. Updates and notifications in GooglePlay disabled
10. Wlan and MobileData disabled
11. Baseband XXLMB
My results with 2.6 Kernel are:
~16mA at daytime in DeepSleep
~ 5-8mA at night in DeepSleep
with kernel 3.x
constantly ~35 - 50mA in DeepSleep
and I checked it´s really in DeepSleep Mode.
So it looks like the radio is consuming more power while keeping the phone connected with the radiostation while the phone is in DeepSleep.
but....
I once also tested hadi´s 1.6 yoon Kernel with RC2, which is basing on Arcos RC2 kernel. By using the Ondemand govarnor in his kernel to compare the battery consumprion against Arcos Ondemand governor, hadis Ondemand governor also comsumed more than Arcos Ondemand Governor. With his OndemandX givernor the consumption was pretty much the same like with Arcos Ondemand.
So maybe it´s also something that changed in Arcos ondemand governor in 3.x kernel.
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Ah, I misunderstood the intent of this thread, then, my bad :banghead:
Hmmm... I'm willing to do some experiment... but there are several apps called "Better Battery Widgets"... which one?
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i don't know how will you classify my battery life because for me if the battery is enough to last at least for 8-9hours(hours spent in college) then i call it good enough
i use athena with no UV.
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1 think usually done wrong in forum i'm following is they're using task killer or app to manage their free ram. this app is THE REAL BATTERY KILLER. they stop needed service and make your phone awake . not to mention the choppyness because the os needs to restart services and many bad effect it causes
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Ah, I misunderstood the intent of this thread, then, my bad :banghead:
Hmmm... I'm willing to do some experiment... but there are several apps called "Better Battery Widgets"... which one?
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Oh I see there are several apps out now using the same name.
I´m using this BatteryMonitor Widget from 3C.
So when using it:
1. Do not recalibrate the battery as it will otherwise need much more time to show you accurate readings.
2. The App needs at least one or two charging cycles to recalibrate itself (not the battery) as it needs to determinate the exact capacity of your battery.
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i don't know how will you classify my battery life because for me if the battery is enough to last at least for 8-9hours(hours spent in college) then i call it good enough
i use athena with no UV.
gov lulzactive 245-1024 scheduler row io
1 think usually done wrong in forum i'm following is they're using task killer or app to manage their free ram. this app is THE REAL BATTERY KILLER. they stop needed service and make your phone awake . not to mention the choppyness because the os needs to restart services and many bad effect it causes
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Hm well I´m used to recharge my battery every 3 to 5 days because it´s most of time in DeepSleep Mode. I´m just doing calls and surf the net in my breaks at work. So only turning on MobileData if it´s needed. At home I´m having my PC for surfing the net, so MobileData and WLAN is disabled as well.
With RC4 my battery drain was so high it even wouldn´t last as long till I´m back home from work. With RC6 i think it would last at least 12 to 18 hours, but it´s still a huge difference compared to the RC´s with it´s 2.6 Kernel.
Agree with you about using such apps like Task Killer or scripts like V6 Supercharger. They all need extra CPU time to do their jobs and often are causing more problems than they are solving.The Android OS can manage such things better itself and terminate unneeded services itself too.
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Additionally you can use BetterBatteryStats in case your phone is keeping a long time active to see what is causing this. It´s free for XDA members.
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My results with 2.6 Kernel are:
~16mA at daytime in DeepSleep
~ 5-8mA at night in DeepSleep
with kernel 3.x
constantly ~35 - 50mA in DeepSleep
and I checked it´s really in DeepSleep Mode.
So it looks like the radio is consuming more power while keeping the phone connected with the radiostation while the phone is in DeepSleep.
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I can testify to this, my BBS shows the phone going into deep sleep normally but the drain with data on is immense even in deep sleep. Your initial findings already point to the most likely source of the problem. Given the varying opinions on this(some say it's fine I others don't agree), is it possible we have the same device but different hardware revisions, some of which are much more power-friendly than others? Because for the life of me I couldn't NEVER anything more than a day from kernel 3.x(CM10) but some people claim they could get upto 3-4 days on light use!
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I don´t think it has something to do with different hardware revisions, else it wouldn´t matter which kernel is in use. But it does.
There is for sure something strange going on. I´ve additionally installed BetterBatteryStats and now the phone started keeping very often in awake mode. Not sure this has something to do with this app, because it didn´t happen when I had it installed on an older CM9 release.
However I can´t find any suspicious processes that are causing this. But to be sure I will have to go back to RC2 to compare with.
So here my results:
Within of 5 hours it keept Awake for 25 minutes.
BBS also says NO Data Connection and No or Unknown SIgnal during that time
But I´m sure it was connected to the radiostation and made a short testcall.
About wakelocks:
KernelWakelocks:
"mmc0_detect" 4m 32s
"DPRAM" 3m 11s
"alarm_rtc" 2m 21s
"PowerManagerService" 1m 36s
"radio-interface" 1m 10s
"alarm" 36s
"mmc1_detect" 13s
Partial Wakelocks:
AlarmManager 44s 997 Counts
GSM 20s 4 Counts
ActivityManager-Launch 18s 104 Counts
sleep_broadcast 4s 23 Counts
RILJ 2s 146 Counts
*backup* 1s 109 Counts
NotificationService 1s 113 Counts
Ok I´m back to RC2 and am having some results from BBS to compare with.
After fully charging the battery I unplugged the phone and left it over night at the same place I´m always leaving. So the conditions were the same like with RC6, though in RC6 there were no apps exept BatteryMonitorWidget and BetterBattery Stats installed.
To make it short the results are nearly identical. Even the Awake time is almost identical in a period of 5 hours.
There is also the No or unknown Signal entry for the whole time. So I guess this is due to the MobileData being disabled.
But what I´m missing in RC2 is "mmc0_detect" and "mmc1_detect" in the Kernel Wakelocks. They are not showing up there.
So now we need some other results to compare with my results.
Been using this phone for 1 and half year now..is it normal to have a battery life of 5 hours with 3G on? Currently using cm10
I think the 3.0 kernel really makes a big difference in a negative way in regards to the battery life.
To fight against this, I have used the following settings for some success:
Conservative + Row... still very fluid with Yoon Chronos
245 - 1024 MHz
Screen off after 30 secs
Under volt
Its much better than before, but still I would like more battery life. Probably 8 hours with heavy use up to 16 hours lite.
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Agree on that. I tried now RC6 together with hadis chronos kernel and the consumption is the same like with Arcos 3.x kernel.
The "mmc0_detect" and "mmc1_detect" entries also appear with hadis chronos kernel. Not sure they are responsible for it, but they didn´t appear with 2.6 kernel.
So what I can say for sure it´s not the governor but something else in the 3.x kernel and so far these mmc detect entries are under suspicion.
First of all, sorry for not testing against the two kernels; there's a major project going on in my office, and I totally can't risk to be offline... plus with the random times I'll receive calls, the battery usage might be skewed...
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Agree on that. I tried now RC6 together with hadis chronos kernel and the consumption is the same like with Arcos 3.x kernel.
The "mmc0_detect" and "mmc1_detect" entries also appear with hadis chronos kernel. Not sure they are responsible for it, but they didn´t appear with 2.6 kernel.
So what I can say for sure it´s not the governor but something else in the 3.x kernel and so far these mmc detect entries are under suspicion.
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I did some Google search and arrived at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
scroll down to the second post. The OP of that thread noticed that mmcX_detect will utilize a lot of wakelocks if the SD Card is defective.
Since the battery drain issue with kernel 3.0 does not seem to happen to everyone, could people experiencing such drain try the experiments without an SD Card being installed?
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No problem pep. I need my phone too during the week, so only can do some tests at the weekend.
So to narrow down this problem we need to know how it works without a SD Card installed and if all who are having this issue are having the SD Cards swapped.
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Recently i've ventured into kernel threads wondering how i can get better battery life on my G2. I consider myself pretty well versed in roms but Kernels are a whole new animal for me.
I have read so many threads im becoming dizzy. If i have to flash a kernel for better battery, which one? I dont have demands for a faster phone. Most of the threads about kernels i have read are all about getting a faster clock. Im fine with the speed of my G2. I just want better battery.
Can some one provide me with some literature on the subject, point me in the right direction, or even better, answer some questions for a noob in this particular subject??
What Kernel to use?
Can i flash over CM 6.1 Stable?
Do i need to wipe before flash?
Any assistance will surely allow me to sleep better at night.
Thank you in advance.
I can tell you im running virtuous 7.2 i find pershoots kernel the best for battery.
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shortlived said:
I can tell you im running virtuous 7.2 i find pershoots kernel the best for battery.
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If you want great battery life, don't use a sense rom. They're battery hogs as it is. Stay on CM 6.1 and flash pershoots latest kernel. Get setcpu and set a profile to 245/245 when the screen is off.
With these settings I get awesome battery life and I'm overclocked to 1497.
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rp1783 said:
If you want great battery life, don't use a sense rom. They're battery hogs as it is. Stay on CM 6.1 and flash pershoots latest kernel. Get setcpu and set a profile to 245/245 when the screen is off.
With these settings I get awesome battery life and I'm overclocked to 1497.
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Oh ya i learned through trial and error to stay away from sense roms.
Can i ask you why you overclock? I dont find myself in any moments where i think the phone should be going faster.
I can flash pershoots over cm with no problems?
Can i get a link?
thanks for the response.
Well i lpike sense but only when its ocd sense too sluggish on stock g2 speeds. Also even with ocing and runing sense my bat last just about all day. It sometimes needs a shot a juice if im useing gps or playing a lot of games but thats it.
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Decent battery life on my G2.
I'm running htc sence on mine with the pershoot kernal and cpu tuner.I have tweaked profiles and my battery life is better than b4.Example, i took it off the charger(ac) yesterday morning @ about 9:20am & today Thur, i checked the [email protected] 11:50am and my battery is only @ 40%.(1 day,3hrs & 31min's later)not bad.That's WITH moderate use.
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I'm running htc sence on mine with the pershoot kernal and cpu tuner.I have tweaked profiles and my battery life is better than b4.Example, i took it off the charger(ac) yesterday morning @ about 9:20am & today Thur, i checked the [email protected] 11:50am and my battery is only @ 40%.(1 day,3hrs & 31min's later)not bad.That's WITH moderate use.
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So whats CPU Tuner? Do you have some suggestions for how to tweak the profile? Can i get a link to the pershoots thread? Is this the right thread? --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847672
Do I have to wipe before flashing and then reinstall cm over it?
When I went into SetCPU, it always kinda confused me. That could be why I was never interested in overclocking.
I realize I have a lot of questions. Im just a careful and thorough person.
Simple.
@dangabob13...Don't worry about all the questions i'd want to b super carefull as well.First, cpu tuner is a free app in the market much like set cpu except u get more options as far as customizing your profiles.Second you can find the pershoot kernel right with in rom manager.Just go to the download rom section & its the 3rd one down.I didn't wipe and i haven't had any problems.The reason i switched to the pershoot kernel was because i was having problems waking up the screen with HTC sense and the kernel it came with.This fixed the issue for me.No need to b confused it's actually pretty simple.My profiles for cpu tuner are as follows:
Under the "Current" tab: i have the governor set to "conservative" i have the cpu o.c to 1094 MHZ.No need to go crazy over clocking i find this to b fast enough for now. The rest of my profiles:under the "profiles"tab,
Performance:Ondemand-Max:1094 Ghz,Min:768Mhz.
Good:Conservative-Max:1094Ghz,Min:768Mhz.
Normal:Conservative-Max:1094Ghz,Min:768Mhz.
Power save:Conservative-Max:1094mhz,Min:768Mhz.
Screen off:Conservative-Max:768Mhz,Min:768Mhz.
Extreme Power save:Conservative-Max:768Mhz,Min:768Mhz.
Keep in mind i also have wifi,blutooth,sync all disabled as well.I'm not saying this is guaranteed to work for you, I'm simply stating what works for me. Good luck i hope this helps.
Quick question....doesn't CM6.1 Stable have the pershoot kernel already? Also does the Pershoot kernel the one that goes to 1.8Mhz?
Not that I'm interested in going that high, but just wondering.
I OC for games mainly, but also to watch tv and movies, the extra umph really helps. My setup on SetCPU are:
Temp>40.2*C 368 / 245 Powersave Priority 100
Screen Off 245 / 245 Powersave Priority 90
Charging/full 1497 / 245 Interactive Priority 85
Battery<10% 268 / 245 Conservative Priority 80
Battery<30% 806 / 245 Conservative Priority 70
Hope this helps.
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@dangabob13...Don't worry about all the questions i'd want to b super carefull as well.First, cpu tuner is a free app in the market much like set cpu except u get more options as far as customizing your profiles.Second you can find the pershoot kernel right with in rom manager.Just go to the download rom section & its the 3rd one down.I didn't wipe and i haven't had any problems.The reason i switched to the pershoot kernel was because i was having problems waking up the screen with HTC sense and the kernel it came with.This fixed the issue for me.No need to b confused it's actually pretty simple.My profiles for cpu tuner are as follows:
Under the "Current" tab: i have the governor set to "conservative" i have the cpu o.c to 1094 MHZ.No need to go crazy over clocking i find this to b fast enough for now. The rest of my profiles:under the "profiles"tab,
Performance:Ondemand-Max:1094 Ghz,Min:768Mhz.
Good:Conservative-Max:1094Ghz,Min:768Mhz.
Normal:Conservative-Max:1094Ghz,Min:768Mhz.
Power save:Conservative-Max:1094mhz,Min:768Mhz.
Screen off:Conservative-Max:768Mhz,Min:768Mhz.
Extreme Power save:Conservative-Max:768Mhz,Min:768Mhz.
Keep in mind i also have wifi,blutooth,sync all disabled as well.I'm not saying this is guaranteed to work for you, I'm simply stating what works for me. Good luck i hope this helps.
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I dont have a conservative option under the Governor dropdown. is that important. Otherwise i duplicated your settings. Boasting 27 hours of up time and 40% left is bound to make me jealous ill test it out. Thanks again.
That's strange is your cpu tuner app up to date? I also wanted to mention that my screen brightness is set to 20%,heptic feed back is turned off and so is vibration. Along with a few other battery saving options you should see a difference in battery life.Obviously results will vary.
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That's strange is your cpu tuner app up to date? I also wanted to mention that my screen brightness is set to 20%,heptic feed back is turned off and so is vibration. Along with a few other battery saving options you should see a difference in battery life.Obviously results will vary.
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Ha its so funny. I have the same exact settings. i took a look around and turned off all that stuff. I keep my GPS on because it only uses battery when its being used. But i turn off wireless locations so that its not always trying to centralize my location.
Hey, I'm curious to see whether there is something that I could do to my BUZZ to gain more battery it's currently got SPLASHMOD rom, and clockwork mod... I'm just unsure because it was fine for ages with the CyanogenMod but then deteriorated for some strange reason I hadn't downloaded something I shouldn't neither use something that would drain the battery so I'm pretty confused I'd be grateful if there was an explanation I'm pretty much a noob at this type of stuff so go easy on me.
Thank you for your time
Just decrease the CPU frequency.. If u dint set the CPU, then go for "Atutu battery saver" App.., it helps you to get battery life for whole day with experiencing all the stuff, For me normally batter drains in 9 or 10 hours normally, but after installing this app, it helps me to withstand 40+ hours for my normal use.. It just sets your CPU frequency low and optimises your mobile phone so that no resource will be using battery.... have a try..
try decrease the cpu and set sheduler on powersave
Like the guy above me try decrease your cpu and set your sheduler on powersaver. It works good for me. And you can also try to use other roms. Some roms just use more and really I have no idea why
I will yell you why.......
Cos some roms have so much sh#t running in the background that most users are unaware of,also app after app to do this and to do that will not help in the slightest.
Turn your screen brightness down,stop overclocking,manage your lmk and ooms,sort your syncing out,stop adding placebo scripts etc etc I'm bored now so I hope you get my point.
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i am using splashmod v1.8 and im getting very good battery life after calibration
i used to use CM7 and get 20 hours battery life on moderate use..
with splashmod it goes upto 40 hours....with 2g networks, wifi sometimes and music ... + splashmod v1.8 is very fast!
I have flashed the franco's kernel with viperx's rom now.
And I find that my phone's battery life does not improve mostly. As I was using ICE COLD JELLY AOKP's rom and with the ncx's kernel before, I find that the battery only fall 1% within 5 min's, but now after i flashed faux's kernel, it falls 1% every minutes!! Therefore, i came back to AOKP's rom and the ncx's kernel, but strangely , it falls 1% in 1~2 mins.. After that, whatever i used the other roms or kernels(such as i tried CM10 ,CM9 ,Android Revolution HD v9.4.1 (Sense 4.1) ), they also come with bad battery life..
One more thing make me confused.
I can't tweak the cpu or alter the governor, although i changed them by using setcpu or other similar apps, when i use cpu spy, I find that they do not change the governor or the mhz..
But when i use the franco Kernel updater, it works! What is the matter of that??
Well third party applications can have compatibility issues. Try flashing another kernel if your battery drains that much, or maybe its something you installed.
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Sometimes a full wipe is helpful. However batteries seem to settle after a couple of charge cycles and that's what I would recommend before rushing to conclusions. Switching ROMs with the speed of light won't help you.
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Due to some requests via PM´s I decided to make my kernel finally public, but remember:
This kernel is a personal kernel for my private use, so it´s only containing the tweaks I´m also really using
It´s the older 2.6.35 kernel basing on latest 2.6.35 sources from Arco, so only use it with Arcos CM9 RC2 or RC3 or a custom ROM with 2.6.35 kernel
This kernel is not filled with a lot of governors and schedulers, but only the ones I´m also personally using.
I have made this kernel because non of the custom kernels worked stable for me in the past, even at stock voltages. With this kernel I´m able to run at extreme Undervolting rock solid.
So this kernel was created with stability and battery life in mind. Each modification was tested separately, so everytime I added a tweak or a new feature, I tested the new kernel for a couple of days before adding the next one.
So why I decided to tweak this older kernel rather than going with 3.x kernel?
- Because this kernel is giving me a much better battery life than the 3.x kernel, is running rock solid and also because I don´t really need the new features added into 3.x kernel.
So what it has included:
- UV and OC options
- lowered WiFi voltage
- lowered lcd voltage
- slightly lowered standby / deepsleep voltage
- Battery life extender
- Fixed 100% battery notification after charger unplug
- 377MB RAM
- NO-OP scheduler as default scheduler
- Lulzactive governor as default governor
- tweaked Lulzactive for battery life and smoothness
- added 518, 633 and 902 MHz (new)
- screen off frequency set to 518 MHz max.(new)
- some more voltage tweaks
- no other compilation tweaks just to make the list longer
With this kernel and a new battery my SGW can last up to 7 days in standby. This is without WiFi and Mobile Data. With the stock kernel I got 3-5 days. It´s also working absolutely stable and smooth for me without any issues.
So if you run into some issues that are/were also discussed i the CM9 Bug report thread, don´t blame me for them.
other suggestions:
- enable KSM
- enable 16bit Dithering
- disable CPU rendering
- greenify your apps
If you follow these suggestions, your ROM should run absolutely smooth without the need for other tweaks.
To use Battery Life eXtender:
Use RootExplorer and go to: '/sys/class/misc/batterylifeextender'. Change the value in 'charging_limit' for example to 90 (default 100). This will set a limit for the capacity to which the battery will be charged. So in this example the battery will be charged to 90%.
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After flashing the kernel whipe your cache and dalvik cache and fix permissions.
Just as a note. Should you encounter the white screen bug in some apps, this is because you whiped the cache in CWM Recovery after flashing the kernel. To fix this go into settings -> apps and delete data and cache of those specific apps.
Credits are going to:
- Arco (for his great work and sources)
- educk (for helping me doing the first steps)
- Christopher83 (for his great commits)
- ivendor (for his tweaks)
- Ezekeel (for Battery Life eXtender)
----------- 18.08.2013 -----------
- added frequencies
- incrased RAM
- lowered screen off frequency in Lulzactive
- some voltage finetunning
CM_9-2.6.35-7up-kernel.zip
----------- first release -----------
Download.
XDA:DevDB Information
[Kernel] [CM9 - RC2 & RC3] honeyx 7up 2.6.35 kernel [for better battery life], a Kernel for the Samsung Galaxy W I8150
Contributors
honeyx, http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4410351
Kernel Special Features:
Version Information
Status: No Longer Updated
Created 2013-09-24
Last Updated 2013-09-24
First, thanks :good:
Edit: can i have your permission to use this kernel on my ROM?
ipromeh said:
First, thanks :good:
Edit: can i have your permission to use this kernel on my ROM?
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Sure No problem mate.
honeyx said:
Sure No problem mate.
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nicely done
I have tested this before with rc2 and I have to say battery life was very significantly longer compared to hurtsky 2.5 + QAsR v2.3. However, the white screen issue persisted in 2 of the apps I used the most, namely boat browser and Gmail so I have opted out again. But if you guys don't care about white screen, do give this kernel a try
Yeah, kernel 2.6 is always better battery life... i recomended it
- screen off frequency set to 768 MHz
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What mean of that ?
is we get trun off the screen it auto lock on 768Mhz ? it's not deepsleep any way CMIIW
hepi_hape said:
Yeah, kernel 2.6 is always better battery life... i recomended it
What mean of that ?
is we get trun off the screen it auto lock on 768Mhz ? it's not deepsleep any way CMIIW
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This is the max frequency the clock might rise to if the screen is off but for example an app or a service awakes the phone from deepsleep. So it will not drain so much the battery if the phone gets awake for some reason and if you undervolt your cpu, you can reduce the consumption for such a case even more.
This is preset in the Lulzactive governor, which Christopher83 fixed to make this working, so it´s only related to this governor, which is also my default governor.
So when in screenoff the phone only maximum can use CPU clock at 768Mhz
Yeah i get it. .thx for explain it
I think arco might be able to help you fix the white screen. Long back skull kernel experienced the same and acro helped him to fix it.
coolbuy said:
I think arco might be able to help you fix the white screen. Long back skull kernel experienced the same and acro helped him to fix it.
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Uhm, well I´m not sure this is exactly the same because Keff (Woohooo..) is modding the 3.x kernel for CM10. But thanks for the suggestion. I will aks Keff first to not to bother Arco in the first place. It will be for sure interesting what caused it for him.
Just to clarify some things about the white screen bug. The one I described in my first post is not the real white screen bug, but only what happens to some apps after whiping the cache in CWM Recovery. This can easily be fixed like described above and will not bother you anymore.
The real white screen bug came all of the sudden (without whiping anything before). So for example you opened facebook, everything was fine, but a few minutes later by relaunching facebook you got a white screen. The procedure to get rid of this was the same as I already mentioned but with the difference it happened again after a while.
So well I have had this issue with facebook too in the past, but it´s gone and now even not happening after whiping the cache in CWM Recovery. It´s not gone because I updated the rom (still using RC2), but because facebook updated their app.
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I already found what you was talking about. It´s called the white noise issue where you get a white screen by turning the screen on, so it´s not the same.
And how is games performance ?
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And how is games performance ?
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Mind you: This is battery saving rom. It is meant to have low game performance. It MUST have a lower gaming performance than those v3.0 kernels. If you want gaming, this is not for you.
Doplgangr said:
Mind you: This is battery saving rom. It is meant to have low game performance. It MUST have a lower gaming performance than those v3.0 kernels. If you want gaming, this is not for you.
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Yes, this is a battery saving kernel, but why should it have low gaming performance? Just because it´s optimized for low consumption in standby and because you can undervolt it? It´s like you were comparing an older Pentium4 against an Intel Atom CPU and saying the Atom must be faster because its newer. Or by comparing a Atom against a 286 CPU and saying the 286 will be faster than the Atom because the Atom is more battery friendly.
Sure, it´s not optimized to get the highest scores in benchmarks, but the games I´m playing once in a while are running totally smooth.
The newer releases of CM9 might be of course faster in games, but not just because of the 3.x kernel, but also because Arcos ocessionaly is updating the GPU drivers.
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Yes, this is a battery saving kernel, but why should it have low gaming performance? Just because it´s optimized for low consumption in standby and because you can undervolt it? It´s like you were comparing an older Pentium4 against an Intel Atom CPU and saying the Atom must be faster because its newer. Or by comparing a Atom against a 286 CPU and saying the 286 will be faster than the Atom because the Atom is more battery friendly.
Sure, it´s not optimized to get the highest scores in benchmarks, but the games I´m playing once in a while are running totally smooth.
The newer releases of CM9 might be of course faster in games, but not just because of the 3.x kernel, but also because Arcos ocessionaly is updating the GPU drivers.
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Thank you for correcting my ignorance. :laugh: Maybe I'll give the kernel a try and tell more about that
Honeyx, I hope you continue to develop and share this kernel in the future because I decided to start everything over from scratch because of your work here. I love this kernel. I get so much better battery life now. If you would ever consider adding Lionheart in the future, I would be very grateful. Is there any way to add Row or does it require kernel 3? Thanks again!
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Yes, this is a battery saving kernel, but why should it have low gaming performance? Just because it´s optimized for low consumption in standby and because you can undervolt it? It´s like you were comparing an older Pentium4 against an Intel Atom CPU and saying the Atom must be faster because its newer. Or by comparing a Atom against a 286 CPU and saying the 286 will be faster than the Atom because the Atom is more battery friendly.
Sure, it´s not optimized to get the highest scores in benchmarks, but the games I´m playing once in a while are running totally smooth.
The newer releases of CM9 might be of course faster in games, but not just because of the 3.x kernel, but also because Arcos ocessionaly is updating the GPU drivers.
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Not for hard gaming.....thats sure....if you want battery play with puzzlebubbles
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tebor8 said:
Honeyx, I hope you continue to develop and share this kernel in the future because I decided to start everything over from scratch because of your work here. I love this kernel. I get so much better battery life now. If you would ever consider adding Lionheart in the future, I would be very grateful. Is there any way to add Row or does it require kernel 3? Thanks again!
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I may add some tweaks in the future, but this may take a while till I have some spare time to test them. About adding other governors...well I tested a lot of them but finally decided to use Lulzactive because it was the most battery friendly governor in the one hand and because there is also the Lulzactive app you can use to tweak it to your needs. So for example tweak it that way it behaves like for example Lionheart. I also tested the ROW scheduler but it wasn´t as stable as I presupposed to be. So the best compromise between stability and performance was to use the noop scheduler. It´s nearly as fast as the row but way more stable.
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Not for hard gaming.....thats sure....if you want battery play with puzzlebubbles
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LoL. I´m quite sure with extreme undervolting you can still save some battery juice even while playing action games on this device. Beside this it´s not the CPU or GPU that consumes most, but the display and its backlight LED´s.
it is for battery saving but for me its not good to play with games cuz playing for like 40-60 minutes consume 60% battery ? lol
thats quite alot and might burnt up my battery life.
Dwama said:
it is for battery saving but for me its not good to play with games cuz playing for like 40-60 minutes consume 60% battery ? lol
thats quite alot and might burnt up my battery life.
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So did you thought it will consume just as much as being in deepsleep????????? The kernel is tweaked to consume less in deepsleep and in daily use but not to consume less in games. Beside this it´s not the CPU nor the GPU that consumes most, but the backlight LEDs in your screen. So even by undervolting and underclocking it will still drain a lot if playing games.
There is no and will not be a magical Kernel that is using witchcraft to reduce the consumption of the LEDs, exept someone compiles you a kernel which turns out the LEDs completely, if you can with a complete dark screen.
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So did you thought it will consume just as much as being in deepsleep????????? The kernel is tweaked to consume less in deepsleep and in daily use but not to consume less in games. Beside this it´s not the CPU nor the GPU that consumes most, but the backlight LEDs in your screen. So even by undervolting and underclocking it will still drain a lot if playing games.
There is no and will not be a magical Kernel that is using witchcraft to reduce the consumption of the LEDs, exept someone compiles you a kernel which turns out the LEDs completely, if you can with a complete dark screen.
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Im not expecting anything from ur kernel, im glad that u shared ur kernel taht could last longer than arco's stock kernel.
I was just giving up my comments about ur kernel that i have used for 2 months , Not complaining and whining lol.
I am sorry and thanks for sharing ur kernel , keep it up. :fingers-crossed:
Hi. I just want to know how can I save more battery on this rom, cm cause when I had the TouchWiz stock one, battery lasted about 7-8 hours, with heavy use. And now with CM10.2 it only lasts about 5-6 hours, same use. How can I set the governor or which are the best performance settings for this rom? Right now I'm using interactive governor. Also, is it normal to take about 1 minute for the phone to boot? I have foldermount installed, but I don't know if it's the cause of this. Thanks.
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rolo143 said:
Hi. I just want to know how can I save more battery on this rom, cm cause when I had the TouchWiz stock one, battery lasted about 7-8 hours, with heavy use. And now with CM10.2 it only lasts about 5-6 hours, same use. How can I set the governor or which are the best performance settings for this rom? Right now I'm using interactive governor. Also, is it normal to take about 1 minute for the phone to boot? I have foldermount installed, but I don't know if it's the cause of this. Thanks.
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I use the Slimrom myself, so not sure about CM, but 1min I think is a bit too long for the S4 mini. You may also want to try a customer kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2568479 by F4k, its pretty good and stable. As for the governor, it situation dependent, some may perform better than the other depends on your installation and kernel. Generally ondemend, interactive and smartassV2 are pretty balanced between power saving and performance. There's few app you can use to set governor, its a basic function and they all work: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=kernel tuning&c=apps&hl=en
I don't use foldermount, but those type of APP do use quite a bit of process, especially now a SD card is involved. You can use: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en or similar program to monitor and see which process/program consume the most power.
Standard tweak are simple, disable unwanted radio, use the 'black/dark' version of the menu, don't use over-complex launcher, etc. I'm not sure if CM has the KSM feature (Kernel SamePage Merging) in the settings menu, if you do and happen to use it, disable it. It waste about 30% of the power.
No need for anything fancy. Ondemand governor is the usual "standard" and gives me great battery. Smartass has always been awful on devices ive tried it. make sure you don't have programs like Facebook running in the background. Most likely its an app causing your drain.