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Should I upgrade to S4 or not?

I have the S3, and S4's 441 ppi Screen is tempting me, but won't our GS3, have those features through a ROM? So should I upgrade or not?

Probably not. Unless you want Touchwiz running on the latest and greatest android build the GS4 is probably not the best way to go if you already have a GS3. Not to mention all those new features will be gone the minute you flash an aosp ROM. So YES if you want Toichwiz on the latest android version (4.2.2) but NO if you're an aosp guy or if you can handle waiting for the new features to be released on the GS3.
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LuigiBull23 said:
Probably not. Unless you want Touchwiz running on the latest and greatest android build the GS4 is probably not the best way to go if you already have a GS3. Not to mention all those new features will be gone the minute you flash an aosp ROM. So YES if you want Toichwiz on the latest android version (4.2.2) but NO if you're an aosp guy or if you can handle waiting for the new features to be released on the GS3.
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I'll wait. :highfive:

Up to you? useless thread, the info and specs for the s4 are there for everyone to see. You will ultimately decide what you want
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Yes upgrade new year new technology new galaxy and you got the money so yes o.o
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If in fact our tmobile s3 do not have an LTE radio then I myself might switch. I currently have the note 2 as well and I'm not 100% happy with either phones.
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hmm feel like not worth to upgrade it
too few improvement

S4 is too much like the note 2.
Only plus for me is the quad core.
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I'll be upgrading to an S4, without replacing my existing S3 phone.
Outside the 1080P display, the TV remote and some biometric sensors, I'll have the same phone!
Samsung has already been quoted as releasing the software apps that do not require specific S4 hardware for the S3 and Note II. Look for it later this year.

Well if you're getting it for development don't count on many also Roms as cm team have already mentioned that they are not supporting the gs4. :/
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Please discuss other devices in the sticky thread in General subforum
Thanks
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Google working on Android 4.3

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...and-testing-android-4-3-its-still-jelly-bean/
Any thoughts? Google might unveil 4.3 on the I/O this May instead of KLP 5.0. I could be wrong though. Honestly I could care less if it's KLP or 4.3 I'm just hoping that Google fixes what they broke on 4.2.

Anyone's guess here. Maybe a quick update to 4.3 for minor issues, and jump to 5.0 later in the summer. I've seen reports of server logs with Android 5.0.1 on a Google X device, and now this report of 4.3. I think JBQ and his team aren't sleeping much these days.
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I'm guessing 4.3 this coming May and later this year it will be the next Nexus + KLP. Anyhow in less than 30 days we'll know

I hope 4.3 will be just an update. An update like bug fixing shouldn't need a special event. Then a Motorola Google phone or Nexus (or maybe it's same) for a Google I/O. KLP should also be there with the new devices.

"The Android 4.3 devices I've seen so far are Nexus 4 and Nexus 7"
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Soldier 2.0 said:
"The Android 4.3 devices I've seen so far are Nexus 4 and Nexus 7"
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I honestly think that they are gonna give us support for 4.3 but kill us off on KLP.
But we will still have our great devs! :thumbup:
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Personally i would like to have the 4.2 memory errors and leaks fixed,4.2.2 was good but i removed my custom roms and i have tried many,they all had the same errors,lags etc.Now i am on stock 4.1.2 rooted with busybox installed and the louder jelly bean nexus add on for sound.
4.3 ?Honestly i expect bug fixes for Samsung Galaxy nexus.

I'm always anxious for new builds. Any word of Babel being implemented into 4.3?

tydy said:
I'm always anxious for new builds. Any word of Babel being implemented into 4.3?
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I think that may be the update to fix bugs and add babel along with security stuff maybe.
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hope they won't change coding again. It would take "ages" for custom roms to settle down again

I was hoping that 5.0 would be released at I/O and come to my galaxy nexus just to tide me over until I upgrade from my galaxy nexus. 4.3 will probably be a minor update, sort of like 4.2 was and will probably break more things than fix things on my galaxy nexus.
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msavic6 said:
I was hoping that 5.0 would be released at I/O and come to my galaxy nexus just to tide me over until I upgrade from my galaxy nexus. 4.3 will probably be a minor update, sort of like 4.2 was and will probably break more things than fix things on my galaxy nexus.
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Wow, you come across so negative!
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Soldier 2.0 said:
Wow, you come across so negative!
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My galaxy nexus worked perfectly on 4.1.2, battery life was decent as well, but 4.2.2 ruined my nexus, so many bugs, lag and battery suffered as well. The galaxy nexus has its fair share of issues as well and after owning it for 16 months, it is beginning to wear on me. I still love it but its becoming more of a love-hate relationship.
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msavic6 said:
My galaxy nexus worked perfectly on 4.1.2, battery life was decent as well, but 4.2.2 ruined my nexus, so many bugs, lag and battery suffered as well. The galaxy nexus has its fair share of issues as well and after owning it for 16 months, it is beginning to wear on me. I still love it but its becoming more of a love-hate relationship.
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Hmmm...I've been delighted with 4.2.2 on my GNex. Never run smoother or been more stable than now. Other than a minor issue with Bluetooth handoff between vehicles and house phone, it's good.
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Mine runs beautifully. Idk if it is actually something since I haven't been back to 4.1 since the ota but it seemed smoother. 4.2 is smooth too but 4.1 just seemed... Different... I like 4.2 too though. I love my nexus and won't upgrade until probably late 2014, no reason to...
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hope bugs on 4.2.2 get solved on 4.3. and if v5 release, maguro get the update also

Winesnob said:
Hmmm...I've been delighted with 4.2.2 on my GNex. Never run smoother or been more stable than now. Other than a minor issue with Bluetooth handoff between vehicles and house phone, it's good.
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That's interesting, 4.2.2 just feels like a rushed release to me, lock screen widgets lag and don't seem very thought out and the Bluetooth issues are annoying as well. Even with fresh stock images flashed, there is still a bit of sluggishness.
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Google on Android 4.3
Will it be work on Galaxy Nexus?

[email protected] i9250 said:
Will it be work on Galaxy Nexus?
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2 weeks till we find out.

msavic6 said:
That's interesting, 4.2.2 just feels like a rushed release to me, lock screen widgets lag and don't seem very thought out and the Bluetooth issues are annoying as well. Even with fresh stock images flashed, there is still a bit of sluggishness.
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Agreed. Personally, I would much rather have a very polished 4.3JB on my "aging" nexus, than jumping to a rough KLP.
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Its true stock Android on S4!!!

yes just heard it on Google I /O s4 pure android coming to att and tmobile but Google selling it amazing!!!!!
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I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow

zoddex said:
I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow
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yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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xxjrsmith3xx said:
yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.

Definitely wanting to sale my note 2 for that.
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RMXO said:
I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.
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That's what I believe it is too.

Why would anyone switch their gs4s to that? Can't aosp just be cooked up from that version? It'll deff be much more bug free then aosp at this point
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization

Im just gonna wait to see if there is a rom coming out to install

gdmlaz said:
or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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gdmlaz said:
or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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I wonder now that there is a stock android build coming will cm for s4 be better since they will have the code specifically for this phone?

What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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You shouldn't feel bad about your purchase. I'm quite happy with mine so far (except the overheating issue lately).
I don't have the AOSP version yet, so I can't really speak of the features that are/aren't going to be there.
I'm guessing if they make it true stock Android, there will be no Samsung bloat at all.
So it's basically a much more powerful version than any Nexus phone will ever be,
and as such the price is quite high. Personally, I would not consider it at that price.
I'm happy with my T-Mo, and with a few customization here or there, I can always get stock.
This is really geared toward the hard-core Android fans/developers. You can't doubt the S4 has the best internal hardware
of any phone out there, and there lies possibilities.

I also heard the news from google I/O. Does this mean that this version of the S4 will be as open as a nexus and easy for developers to make their custom ROMs for it?

KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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Sony basically did the same thing with the ZR, took complaints and made a new phone out of it
Just purchased a 600$ Ip57 phone? Well there's IP58 now! (Waterproof not resistant)

It's good to have options, but honestly most people that buy pure vanilla Android are experienced users. Most will have no clue rather it's Vanilla or not.
So there in lies the questions. Why put this out after and most that come here that have an s4 already hacked it to death no? So I don't see the point of the users here who want to upgrade to this when you just put a vanilla type ROM on it.
Fancy pants Note ||

elflip88 said:
Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.

blackhand1001 said:
CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.
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Not true. my nexus 4 gets bugs every once in a while.

If the hardware is identical to the tmoble version then you should just be able to flash the image through Odin right? Seems kind of like the galaxy nexus where you flash takju from yakju or whatever and boom, you are getting the Google play version of updates, wallet functionality etc. If anything it says Samsung has opened their flagship to aosp right?
Even if you think $650 is too much this means that potentially, Samsung will get touch wiz updates to new versions faster as there will be nexus level compatibility with each new android update. I'm not saying immediate but they will have an inside track based on the fact that Google will actively update their device through AOSP for at least 2 years.
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CM will always have bugs due to the way they change the Android coding. Where it is stable and great work people should never look for a bug free OS
Wayne Tech Nexus

jelly bean 4.3???

I just heard from CNET that nexus is going to get 4.3 jellybean,
when will we get official 4.2 or 4.3? or atleast a ROM which has both CM features and Touchwiz features :/

bluntdude24 said:
I just heard from CNET that nexus is going to get 4.3 jellybean,
when will we get official 4.2 or 4.3? or atleast a ROM which has both CM features and Touchwiz features :/
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u heard it right they have rolled out Jb Android 4.3 (JWR66V) for nexus 4 and other for nexus 7,10 etc
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
so as far samsung is concerned it will take atleast 3 months from now if we are lucky or maybe even end of this year but yes the good news is that samsung has confirmed the 4.3 update for note2 but have not commented anything on the release date yet

There are already many many threads for same subject and I think they will be adding up
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There is an update and other devices thread in the stickies.
Instead of making a dozen threads just post in that thread.
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All we know is Q4 2013
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Based on Samsung's past update speed and the lower than expected S4 sales, I am betting on before Q4 2014
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How come nexus devices get updates 1st?

Sandata said:
How come nexus devices get updates 1st?
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Because Nexus devices are devices that are made by Google's standards and android is developed for this devices by Google themselves. Then with the android source code (AOSP) manufacturers such as Samsung, HTC, Sony etc etc. are free to make their own rom for it, this is why it will always follow later, especially 'cause they have to make sure it is completely bugfree. Next to the big manufacturers we have ofcourse developers like CyanogenMod team and other good developers (i.e. from XDA!) who provide us from great roms too, and some even better than the stock samsung roms.

salmonsushi said:
Based on Samsung's past update speed and the lower than expected S4 sales, I am betting on before Q4 2014
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Will people stop talking about the s4 sales. They just posted they made over 6.6 billion which is up from last year.
So they didn't sell as many as they wanted. Well the s3 is still an awesome phone so why would everyone just to an s4
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My cat has more intelligence than the people who keep starting these threads. How they scrape up the IQ to actually purchase a mobile phone in the first place amazes me.

Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.

Frunobulax said:
Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Lol.now I got to know the reason behind delay in update from samsung
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Frunobulax said:
Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Lol. Just expect a tweet from samsung of 4.3 cery soon" coming shortly.
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i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3

UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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"Crap" is relative. One could call CM10.x crap for the Note 2, as it doesn't have the S-Pen features, leaving the device rather crippled compared to TW.

UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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no, I want official, please give official 4.3 for note2, please, I want it please
(hope this will stop a new thread, lets pray)
via Note 2

UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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Make a topic mate
FloatingFatMan said:
"Crap" is relative. One could call CM10.x crap for the Note 2, as it doesn't have the S-Pen features, leaving the device rather crippled compared to TW.
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No, TW compared to CM actually is crap. CM S Pen Add-on, Note Buddy and Papyrus and S Pen features (incl. Pulling in or out detection) work perfectly.

definitely by the time samsung releases official 4.3 there will be 4 to 5 more threads on the same topic for sure

By the time Sammy is almost ready to release 4.3, Key Lime Pie 5.0 will be out and they will then decide to skip 4.3 for Note II and go directly to 5.0.

I am having issues building cm.
I just know how to initiate a build , I don't know how to fix because I don't know any programming language.
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sgs 4 mini will get android 4.3?

Hello. This davic will get android 4.3?
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While I don't have proof, I would say yes. This device is freshly new and let's not forget it's the little brother of the giant S4 and it's definitely bound to get support from Samsung in software updates.

my hope is yes, since it was released on 4.2 its probably to get at least one update
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hy,
no s4 mini dont get 4.3 firmware will go direct to 4.4, "from a reliable source"

Perhaps the same way as with the S3 that skipped 4.2 and gets 4.3 next month.
However I dont think the S4 Mini will get 4.4 during its debut, I expect it most likely next year.
I do hope we get a working port of Ubuntu Touch from the Ubuntu Edge phone. Since it coworks with Android and its linux based I hope its available in the future. Ubuntu Touch rocks!
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