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[Q] SDCard, Astro File Manager and TitantiumBackup

I have Astro File Manager installed. I have not used it much but now have a question I can't find a answer to. I added some files to the SDCard when it was connected to my PC. I go to Astro and it looks like, at least on my Incredible that my sdcard is listed under mnt/emmc. I have installed the TitantiumBackup and it thinks my SDCard is mnt/sdcard but that looks like it is the internal memory when I connect the phone to the PC. I did a backup and instead of installing the backup to my sdcard it all went to the internal memory. What good is a backup there? I thought the purpose was to put the backup to the sdcard so you could easily have it on a external card.
If my sdcard should be mnt/sdcard how do I get the phone to use that for the removable sdcard? On the root of my internal file system I have a /sdcard folder which looks like it is the same as the /mnt/sdcard folder. The /mnt/sdcard/ and the mnt/emmc/ are different and the mnt/emmc/ folder has all my sdcard files and folders.
Am I missing something somewhere? Why is it so difficult to find the sdcard files and is there a way to fix my file system or TitantiumBackup to find the right system? I am at a loss on this one.
Titanium Backup shows -
External storage: /mnt/sdcard (ok)
Backup directory: /mnt/sdcard/TitantiumBackup
When phone is connected to the PC both of these are internal storage, not the SDCard. What, where should I see sdcard in Astro to really be the SDCard?
If it should be /mnt/sdcard how do I make the file system to use that and not use /mnt/emmc/ as the sdcard? I did a backup today and TitantiumBackup put all the files on the /mnt/sdcard/ area so now the backup is not on my sdcard. I could not find any place in TitantiumBackup to change where the backups go.

your post is extremely confusing.
just to clear some things up.
are you doing all this (checking on the pc and checking astro) at the same time? cause if you are you will see two different things. Unmount and switch to "charge only" if you want to see astro correctly on the phone.
/mnt/emmc is your internal memory
/mnt/sdcard is your sdcard
Always will be.

PhillyCheez said:
your post is extremely confusing.
just to clear some things up.
are you doing all this (checking on the pc and checking astro) at the same time? cause if you are you will see two different things. Unmount and switch to "charge only" if you want to see astro correctly on the phone.
/mnt/emmc is your internal memory
/mnt/sdcard is your sdcard
Always will be.
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No, not checking both at the same time. Below is using Astro:
Astro = /mnt/emmc - sdcard
Astro = mnt/sdcard - internal memory
Connected to PC:
I don't see mnt or sdcard or most of what I see using Astro on the internal drive.
On the SDCard I see what I see under /mnt/emmc/ using Astro.

HTC Support said to mount the SD card from the phone to PC, copy all data to the PC and then unmount from PC and format the SD card. I did that, and after the format I went to copy all back to the card but the card was just as before the format. I unmounted the phone from the PC and Astro showed I formated the /sdcard - my phone data area. The /mnt/emmc (where my Incredible thinks the SD card is) had all the information showing as before.
The /mnt/sdcard only had 3 files, .android_secure (empty directory) LOST.DIR (empty directory) and tmp - .astro folder - astro.db. The /mnt/emmc/ has all my SD Card files and directories.
I know this is not set up right, especially when the format could / did not find the sdcard. Anyone know how to fix this to get it the way it should be?

HTC Support to the rescue. Since the in the phone format did not work, or at least work on the SD Card they had me take the original 2GB card that came with the phone and put it in a card reader on my PC and d0 a format there (FAT32). After the format I copied the files back to that card and put it in my phone. All works as it should, in a file manager /sdcard or /mnt/sdcard showed what was on my SD Card. I then put my 8GB card in the card reader on my PC and did a FAT32 format on it and then copied the files back to it. I then swapped the cards and now I can see the 8GB SD card as either /sdcard or /mnt/sdcard as it should.
Now all I need to find out is what should really be in /mnt/emmc and see if I can get that back the way it should be. Anyone know what directories & files should be there?

where to put Rom, using Android File Transfer (MAC)

I'm about to flash a Rom, when I open up Android File Transfer, do I put the ROM in the "SD Card" folder ? Just want to make sure I am putting it in the right spot.

yes, put it in the sd card folder
if you put it outside that folder, then it will get deleted when you wipe your data before installing the new rom!
also, clockwork mod only allows you to install from your sd card

[Q] deleted folders

I'm in liquid rom when I delete a folder in internal sd by usb I continue seen it in internal sdcard even if I reboot, but because the folder is deleted I get an error when I try to deleted by file explorer, the problem began when I try to blind the folder to external sd

[Q]: Cyanogenmod10.1.2 file manager

So i just noticed after a few days of flashing the cm10.1.2, when I try to access sdcard1 (external) using the file manager. so here's what I'm doing.
I run the file manager, click the bookmark, then click sdcard1, loads for like a sec then shows the external card directory but it switches back to sdcard0 (internal) it's not dead sd card cause I can store stuff in there and access it using twrp. I gave file manager a root access, reformatted the sdcard (more like wipe it out) can't format it through my computer though. File system is: generic heirarchial, for some reason I can't switch it to fat32 Still can't access it, switches back to internal everytime I try.

eremes_nyc said:
So i just noticed after a few days of flashing the cm10.1.2, when I try to access sdcard1 (external) using the file manager. so here's what I'm doing.
I run the file manager, click the bookmark, then click sdcard1, loads for like a sec then shows the external card directory but it switches back to sdcard0 (internal) it's not dead sd card cause I can store stuff in there and access it using twrp. I gave file manager a root access, reformatted the sdcard (more like wipe it out) can't format it through my computer though. File system is: generic heirarchial, for some reason I can't switch it to fat32 Still can't access it, switches back to internal everytime I try.
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Its something with your SD card or partition. It works fine for me.

SD Card Fix questions

I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393 , and where it says:
"Make sure file tmo_kk_extsd_fix.zip is in your Internal SD Card (Phone's Internal Memory < < < DO NOT UNZIP THIS FILE, SIMPLY COPY AND PASTE IT IN YOUR PHONE"
My questions are:
How do I get it to my internal SD Card - I'm assuming I have to flash it in Odin, since you can't just copy/paste thru the phone via the PC?
Do I have to format the card first?
I have twrp, do i need PHILZ recovery?
I am rooted and using Wicked 4.4.2

Pashovski said:
I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393 , and where it says:
"Make sure file tmo_kk_extsd_fix.zip is in your Internal SD Card (Phone's Internal Memory < < < DO NOT UNZIP THIS FILE, SIMPLY COPY AND PASTE IT IN YOUR PHONE"
My questions are:
How do I get it to my internal SD Card - I'm assuming I have to flash it in Odin, since you can't just copy/paste thru the phone via the PC?
Do I have to format the card first?
I have twrp, do i need PHILZ recovery?
I am rooted and using Wicked 4.4.2
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Why can't you copy and paste from the comp? I can. That or take your SD card out and use an adapter.
SM-N900T: Powered by X-Note V13/CivZ-SnapKat 2.1

FFTony said:
Why can't you copy and paste from the comp? I can. That or take your SD card out and use an adapter.
SM-N900T: Powered by X-Note V13/CivZ-SnapKat 2.1
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Oh okay. So you're saying there's nothing wrong with taking a micro sd reader and copying it that way? I thought I would have to format it first, but if not that's great
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FFTony said:
Why can't you copy and paste from the comp? I can.
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Okay I just powered off the phone and connected it to the PC and I definitely can not copy and paste files to it, let alone the SD card

> How do I get it to my internal SD Card
If you are on the device downloading then it will go to '/storage/emulated/0/Download'. '0' is the internal SD card. Just copy it up one directory so it will be at the top level of the SD card.
If it is on your PC you can put it there through MTP -- the Windows directory 'N900T/Phone' -- or through ADB. ADB requires that it is enabled on the device in 'Settings-->Developer Options' (search 'enable developer options'). Then on the PC in a command prompt window:
adb push "whatever the file is" /storage/emulated/0
Then you boot into TWRP, hit the button 'Install', explore to the file you put on the SD card. After seeing the nice explorer in TWRP you'll know that you could have saved the zip just about anywhere, like the Download directory.
Frank

Frank Westlake said:
If you are on the device downloading then it will go to '/storage/emulated/0/Download'. '0' is the internal SD card. Just copy it up one directory so it will be at the top level of the SD card.
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Then you boot into TWRP, hit the button 'Install', explore to the file you put on the SD card. After seeing the nice explorer in TWRP you'll know that you could have saved the zip just about anywhere, like the Download directory.
Frank
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Thanks!
Sorry if Im being super thick, but when you say "internal SD card" do you mean the internal storage, and not the Micro SD card? Because if I put the Micro SD card in the GN3 it says "blank SD card". After downloading the file and going to TWRP my options of select storage are:
Internal Storage (19580MB)
Micro SDcard (0MB)
USB Storage (0MB)
I can only select internal storage. So should I just install it from internal storage?

Pashovski said:
... when you say "internal SD card" do you mean the internal storage, and not the Micro SD card?
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Yes.
Internal Storage (19580MB)
AKA: SDCARD, internal sdcard, '/sdcard', fixed sdcard, non-removable sdcard , external sdcard .
Micro SDcard (0MB)
AKA: Removable sdcard, external sdcard.
Note that both have 'external sdcard'. Originally 'sdcard' was for the phone (not on your list) and they added a fixed 'external sdcard' for shared storage and the 'sdcard' was known as an internal sdcard. Then when they added a removable sdcard the term 'external sdcard' began to cause confusion. People thought of the removable sdcard as an external sdcard, so the external sdcard was thought to be the internal sdcard.
The ability exists for there to be multiple removable sdcards so be prepared for more confusion.
I can only select internal storage. So should I just install it from internal storage?
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Yes.
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Frank

Frank Westlake said:
Yes.
Internal Storage (19580MB)
AKA: SDCARD, internal sdcard, '/sdcard', fixed sdcard, non-removable sdcard , external sdcard .
Micro SDcard (0MB)
AKA: Removable sdcard, external sdcard.
Note that both have 'external sdcard'. Originally 'sdcard' was for the phone (not on your list) and they added a fixed 'external sdcard' for shared storage. Then when they added the a removable sdcard the term 'external sdcard' began to cause confusion.
Yes.
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Frank
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Thanks.
I did it then rebooted. Now I get an endless loop of Blank Card/Mount/Format/Erasing , and then it goes right back to blank/unmounted. Brand New Card too.

Pashovski said:
I did it then rebooted. Now I get an endless loop of Blank Card/Mount/Format/Erasing , and then it goes right back to blank/unmounted. Brand New Card too.
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At this point you should go back to where you got the fix and report the problem. I don't have Android 4.4++ so I can't help.
Frank