Long time lurker, first time poster (which means I can't post in the actual ROM thread). If my thread is inappropriate, please feel free to revise/delete as necessary. If additional information is needed from me, please advise.
By way of background: I have experience with flashing on this phone dating back to Gingerbread with IncredibleHD and MikRunny from "another site". I came over from a Samsung Fascinate where I was also flashing ROMs. So while not an expert in the actual development of the device, I would like to think I am somewhat experienced with flashing ROMs at least.
Incredibly(^<Paranoid2.19.30Final Questions:
With my current flash of Incredibly(^<Paranoid2.19.30Final, I am not running any themes and installation should be basically standard (though I did have to flash the October GApps package over it because there was no way to set up a Google account).
1. Aroma: The Revised OP still talks about the Aroma installer (I know that there have been two versions of the ROM zip in the past). When I flashed 2.19.30, there was no Aroma installer. Bad download or mistake in OP? Answered in Post #4.
2. Camcorder: Regular camera and FFC are working correctly. The OP says that the camcorder has 720p enabled at this point. However, I do not see anywhere in the settings to change the quality of the camcorder, and the camcorder is currently recording at 480p. How do I change the camcorder to 720p? Answered by The Man himself in Post #14.
3. Bluetooth in Car: With the various AOSP ROMs, when connecting the phone to my car via Bluetooth (not A2DP, just a headset profile), I get sound but it is garbled beyond belief while ringing. For any music buffs, the sound is basically the first chord of "I Believe In a Thing Called Love" by The Darkness...as the sound of a phone ringing. Per Rushead's post #710, it appears that Bluetooth headsets and in-call voice are not functional, which is a known issue in AOSP ROMs under ICS and JB with no fix. Has this been resolved in this ROM since "everything" works but LED camera flash? Answered in Post #9 via OP for Incredibly(^<Paranoid Collection.
4. Status Bar Clock: I want to eliminate the clock in the status bar. I go in to the AOKP settings via Settings > ROM Control > Clock > Clock Style and select "No Clock". This removes the clock from the status bar. However, when the phone goes to sleep, and I come back through the lock screen, the clock is back. Going back in to the settings as referenced above, the "No Clock" option is still selected...and yet there is a clock there. If my memory serves me, in Aeroevan's CM10 the option would be under Settings > System > Status Bar, but there is no option for the clock there in Incredibly(^<Paranoid. Obviously not a huge deal, but just curious if anyone has a suggestion. Answered in Post #9; works fine in CM10 so who cares.
Any information or assistance would be greatly appreciated.
VenomINC 1.3.1 Question:
While my primary questions are related to Incredibly(^<Paranoid as I am digging JB at the moment, as I am already running up my technical support bill I figure I will ask a VenomINC question as well.
I have tried the various Sense-based ROMs under ICS (but VenomINC in particular...same thing, standard install, no themes) and have a giant issue that does not seem to have popped up in that thread: everything works perfectly, with one exception: no audio comes out of the headphone jack. I have tried an aux cable in the car, regular headphones...nothing. This makes the Sense ROMs unusable for me personally, as I spend a good amount of time in the car for work and listen to podcasts/music.
As best I can tell, I believe that this only happens with Sense 4 based ROMs (UKB, ViperINC, EclipticSense over on "another site") but not with Sense 3.6 ROMs (Ascension, the Nitsuj ICS leak) or with CM based ROMs (including Aero's CM10). I will note that I have not tried changing the kernel - I understand that Viper is using the Chinese kernel, while some of the other ROMs have the leak kernel.
The issue was raised in the ViperINC thread by user artcotto in post #s 615, 634, 689, 691, and 693 with no resolution beyond Nitsua98 helpfully suggesting that maybe his headphones were broken (they were not). I have flashed the various updates to ViperINC since November and the issue has not gone away. Any information on this would be appreciated as well as I am a bit of a flashoholic and would likely go back and forth between Sense and AOSP (even though as noted above JB is pretty awesome).
Thank you for the great community and for any information and assistance you can provide. Thanks to all the developers for all the hard work you have done for our phone (which was apparently ancient and incapable of upgrade by HTC the second we bought it) allowing me to have a current phone without needing to buy a NEW phone.
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VenomINC 1.3.1 Question:
While my primary questions are related to Incredibly(^<Paranoid as I am digging JB at the moment, as I am already running up my technical support bill I figure I will ask a VenomINC question as well.
I have tried the various Sense-based ROMs under ICS (but VenomINC in particular...same thing, standard install, no themes) and have a giant issue that does not seem to have popped up in that thread: everything works perfectly, with one exception: no audio comes out of the headphone jack. I have tried an aux cable in the car, regular headphones...nothing. This makes the Sense ROMs unusable for me personally, as I spend a good amount of time in the car for work and listen to podcasts/music.
As best I can tell, I believe that this only happens with Sense 4 based ROMs (UKB, ViperINC, EclipticSense over on "another site") but not with Sense 3.6 ROMs (Ascension, the Nitsuj ICS leak) or with CM based ROMs (including Aero's CM10). I will note that I have not tried changing the kernel - I understand that Viper is using the Chinese kernel, while some of the other ROMs have the leak kernel.
The issue was raised in the ViperINC thread by user artcotto in post #s 615, 634, 689, 691, and 693 with no resolution beyond Nitsua98 suggesting that maybe his headphones were broken (they were not). I have flashed the various updates to ViperINC since November and the issue has not gone away. Any information on this would be appreciated as well as I am a bit of a flashoholic and would likely go back and forth between Sense and AOSP (even though as noted above JB is pretty awesome).
Thank you for the great community and for any information and assistance you can provide. Thanks to all the developers for all the hard work you have done for our phone (which was apparently ancient and incapable of upgrade by HTC the second we bought it) allowing me to have a current phone without needing to buy a NEW phone.[/SIZE]
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great questions. i am in the same situation...a little experience but not enough forum-cred to post in dev.
i'm currently running ViperInc 1.3.1, just plugged in my el-cheapo RCA headphones and they work fine. sorry bro :-/
i'd love to see some answers to your 2.19.30 questions.
johannvonperfect said:
Long time lurker, first time poster (which means I can't post in the actual ROM thread). If my thread is inappropriate, please feel free to revise/delete as necessary. If additional information is needed from me, please advise.
By way of background: I have experience with flashing on this phone dating back to Gingerbread with IncredibleHD and MikRunny from "another site". I came over from a Samsung Fascinate where I was also flashing ROMs. So while not an expert in the actual development of the device, I would like to think I am somewhat experienced with flashing ROMs at least.
VenomINC 1.3.1 Question:
While my primary questions are related to Incredibly(^<Paranoid as I am digging JB at the moment, as I am already running up my technical support bill I figure I will ask a VenomINC question as well.
I have tried the various Sense-based ROMs under ICS (but VenomINC in particular...same thing, standard install, no themes) and have a giant issue that does not seem to have popped up in that thread: everything works perfectly, with one exception: no audio comes out of the headphone jack. I have tried an aux cable in the car, regular headphones...nothing. This makes the Sense ROMs unusable for me personally, as I spend a good amount of time in the car for work and listen to podcasts/music.
As best I can tell, I believe that this only happens with Sense 4 based ROMs (UKB, ViperINC, EclipticSense over on "another site") but not with Sense 3.6 ROMs (Ascension, the Nitsuj ICS leak) or with CM based ROMs (including Aero's CM10). I will note that I have not tried changing the kernel - I understand that Viper is using the Chinese kernel, while some of the other ROMs have the leak kernel.
The issue was raised in the ViperINC thread by user artcotto in post #s 615, 634, 689, 691, and 693 with no resolution beyond Nitsua98 suggesting that maybe his headphones were broken (they were not). I have flashed the various updates to ViperINC since November and the issue has not gone away. Any information on this would be appreciated as well as I am a bit of a flashoholic and would likely go back and forth between Sense and AOSP (even though as noted above JB is pretty awesome).
Thank you for the great community and for any information and assistance you can provide. Thanks to all the developers for all the hard work you have done for our phone (which was apparently ancient and incapable of upgrade by HTC the second we bought it) allowing me to have a current phone without needing to buy a NEW phone.
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Have you tried earlier versions of ViperInc? I am using 1.0.2 and have none of the issues I was having with 1.3.1 (which were not your issues - just lag). Another question would be - and I'm not sure this would really affect the jack - have you flashed the firmware?
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Question number 1: that was a kind of op misunderstanding, a previous version included aroma, while the best one does not, your download was fine
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brymaster5000 said:
Have you tried earlier versions of ViperInc? I am using 1.0.2 and have none of the issues I was having with 1.3.1 (which were not your issues - just lag). Another question would be - and I'm not sure this would really affect the jack - have you flashed the firmware?
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I have not tried going back to prior versions of ViperINC, though I believe I have used from 1.1 onward and had this issue. I didn't mention in my original post, but yes, I have flashed the ICS firmware with the 0320 radio. Maybe 1.0.2 would be worth a try (though I'm not sure there is a way to get old versions of the ROM).
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This might sound odd. I've been on viper the longest. No lag. I installed super su n un installed their SU. Also got a busy box installer from the market n updated the phones busy box. I'm also running defensed but made sure I popped in rosie, but it's frozen n I'm running nova. Night n day I tell ya.
Sent from my forgotten by HTC Droid Incredible 2. Rooted and Rommed by great minds that haven't forgotten this phone.
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I have not tried going back to prior versions of ViperINC, though I believe I have used from 1.1 onward and had this issue. I didn't mention in my original post, but yes, I have flashed the ICS firmware with the 0320 radio. Maybe 1.0.2 would be worth a try (though I'm not sure there is a way to get old versions of the ROM).
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fwiw, i also have 0320 radio with headphones working fine. i was previously on ViperInc 1.2.0 and EclipticSense and it also worked fine.
Can you think of anything else you did with your phone around the time you first started experiencing the headphone issue?
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fwiw, i also have 0320 radio with headphones working fine. i was previously on ViperInc 1.2.0 and EclipticSense and it also worked fine.
Can you think of anything else you did with your phone around the time you first started experiencing the headphone issue?
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Not that I'm aware of. As I mentioned above, I don't think it's a "hardware" issue, in the sense that even now I have no problems with CM 10, Incredibly(^<Paranoid2.19.30, etc. My best thought was that it may be something with the way the Sense 4 ROMs interact with the hardware, i.e. maybe the kernel on my particular phone? But I have no idea. At some point I will try flashing the "leak" kernel over the VenomINC install.
What I'm more interested in at this point is 720p recording on Incredibly(^<Paranoid2.19.30Final (And I am looking forward to Chilly throwing together a CM10 ROM).
If we keep going back and forth we can rack up enough posts to start posting at the grown-up table :good:
So the revised OP for what is now the Incredibly(^<Paranoid Collection answered a couple of the questions.
Bluetooth phone calls do not work in any of Chilly's ROMs.
I flashed his CM10, and the issue with the clock in the status bar is resolved. This leads me to believe it is an AOKP/PA issue; I am fine with CM10 anyway so no big deal there.
However, when I flashed CM10, the same issue exists with the camcorder. FFC and regular camera work great for photos; there is no option to change the camcorder to 720p.
Re: ViperINC issue: I flashed ViperINC 1.3.1 again, and this time I flashed the "leak" kernel over it. Still no audio through the headphones. I tried turning Beats Audio on/off, did not do anything.
Only issues I have with Viper is it will not connect to my media server via the native apps. I also have been experiencing lag but I think it's mainly due to lack of ram as a reboot usually clears it up. Also if you toggle gps off it doesn't work unless you reboot.
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Re: ViperINC issue: I flashed ViperINC 1.3.1 again, and this time I flashed the "leak" kernel over it. Still no audio through the headphones. I tried turning Beats Audio on/off, did not do anything.
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that reminds me, i also have the Sony XLoud disabled in ViperINC
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that reminds me, i also have the Sony XLoud disabled in ViperINC
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I did not install XLoud in the Viper Installer, just went with Beats. As I said in the OP, I know that my issue was previously mentioned but it does not seem like anybody ever found out the cause.
Bluetooth phone calls are not a dealbreaker for me. At this point, if the 720p recording is actually working, I would be happy with CM10 as a daily driver (though I may check out Evervolv as well to see what 4.2 can do). I just can't find the setting...
So what I think I pieced together: the Chilly collection of ROMs does not have 720p recording. When he was talking about the camera being fixed 99.999% except for flash, he was talking about FFC only, and the ROMs do not have 720p recording. I am hoping I am wrong but confirmation would be appreciated.
It may be a situation like the DKStunna thread, where it was proudly proclaimed at the top that "EVERYTHING WORKS", except for the stuff that didn't that you were just supposed to know hadn't been fixed. When Chilly said in Post #875 that "Lol FFC can works ..led flash works but not with taking pictures...video etc works" that does not appear to mean that 720p recording works.
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johannvonperfect said:
So what I think I pieced together: the Chilly collection of ROMs does not have 720p recording. When he was talking about the camera being fixed 99.999% except for flash, he was talking about FFC only, and the ROMs do not have 720p recording. I am hoping I am wrong but confirmation would be appreciated.
It may be a situation like the DKStunna thread, where it was proudly proclaimed at the top that "EVERYTHING WORKS", except for the stuff that didn't that you were just supposed to know hadn't been fixed. When Chilly said in Post #875 that "Lol FFC can works ..led flash works but not with taking pictures...video etc works" that does not appear to mean that 720p recording works.
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I had got 720p working but it caused problems so I removed it u caught the thread before the revamp
Currently working on most my roms is
FFC with recording
Tethering with 3party app
I will be implementing fixes for led flash
Blue tooth works but has some bugs
Mostly everything works with fixes that I will be implementing
The pa I upped has fixes already baked in ..I'm yet to try BT yet
Once fixes have been baked the roms will be fully functional minus 720p
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chillybean said:
I had got 720p working but it caused problems so I removed it u caught the thread before the revamp
Currently working on most my roms is
FFC with recording
Tethering with 3party app
I will be implementing fixes for led flash
Blue tooth works but has some bugs
Mostly everything works with fixes that I will be implementing
The pa I upped has fixes already baked in ..I'm yet to try BT yet
Once fixes have been baked the roms will be fully functional minus 720p
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That must have been what happened...I have kept up with the thread fairly regularly and thought I saw that 720p had been figured out, but as you said that must have been before it was pulled. I was confused why nobody was mentioning it in the thread considering it would have been big news.
Chilly, thanks for the response, and thanks for all the hard work you do to make the phone feel like new. We're lucky to have such talented devs keeping our device relevant. Keep doing what you do! :highfive:
To the Mods: that should wrap up this thread if you want to lock it. I do not believe there is an answer to my remaining question about ViperINC and audio through the headphone jack.
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Hehe even the mods have moved on...
Once everyone leaves this device Verizon will update it like the thunderbolt.
Sent from my Nitsy CM7.
I don't think it was mentioned, but did you try a reflash / redownload?
Probably not going to do anything, but worth a shot.
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Hehe even the mods have moved on...
Once everyone leaves this device Verizon will update it like the thunderbolt.
Sent from my Nitsy CM7.
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Sweet. I'm locked in my phone till November so I'll be like 1 outta 12 people left with the phone rocking ICS. Sounds exciting
Can usb tethering be done in cm10. I saw the WiFi app thread but nothing on usb.
Not to bump an old thread, but since I still can't post in the actual development thread: Chilly said in Post #1369 of his ROM thread that "No such thing as 100% but yes everything should work other then rotating hard keys bust out the champagne!"
Therefore my question is, once again: how do you change video recording quality to 720p in the camcorder? There still doesn't seem to be an option for it. Any info would be appreciated.
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It's a good time to be a desire owner these days.
The roms just keeps popping out day after another.
Question is, which one is the fastest, most stable, best one?
I think a poll is in place.
Please only vote if you've actually tried them all.
ROM Links:
InsertCoin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
RCMix S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988570
Ace/Vision S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018843
Also, if you found one not listed here, please elaborate.
And I think replying to this thread with your personal reviews of your favorite one with pro's and con's against the others would be appreciated too.
Happy flashing!
Tried 2 of them robo and Baadnewz v similar but TBH no video camera,no trackball wake then none of them is the ****
InsertCoin v1 was running very sweet for me but for some reason updated versions caused problems,probably my fault couldn't be bothered with a full wipe currently using RCMix Sv08 very happy with that apart from the 2 points mentioned above and the lack of a menu function to swap from 2G to 3G easily signal,GPS,battery life all great compass i think borked but i never use it
I selected the rcmix S, because for now it's the only one I tested, and what I can say is that it is really fast for normal use. Compared to version rcmixHD
For other ROMs, they seem to be all good as each other. The developers follow the well updated and are listening to users. The user feedback at speed and bug are equivalent for all roms.
You guys did a great job! Thank you for all your work for our small desires.
ziggy1001 said:
Tried 2 of them robo and Baadnewz v similar but TBH no video camera,no trackball wake then none of them is the ****
InsertCoin v1 was running very sweet for me but for some reason updated versions caused problems,probably my fault couldn't be bothered with a full wipe currently using RCMix Sv08 very happy with that apart from the 2 points mentioned above and the lack of a menu function to swap from 2G to 3G easily signal,GPS,battery life all great compass i think borked but i never use it
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Camera is fixed in both, lag is fixed in insertcoint.
There are solutions for both roms to get the extra settings working in quick menu. (use search in thread)
There are solutions for both roms to get trackballwake(guides, search in threads).
-video rec. still down
-compas still down
anyhow, my 2 cents.. their both great! I picked insertcoin, not alot of difference between the 2 roms.. but in time that will change imo..
but for now, both very viable! havent tried ace & vision roms yet
In general I agree on:
skippy68220 said:
You guys did a great job! Thank you for all your work for our small desires.
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There are solutions for both roms to get trackballwake(guides, search in threads).
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Interesting i have home& menu wake working but not reliably, but didn't see any options for trackball, looks like i'll have to spend even more time searching XDA
Srkineo said:
Camera is fixed in both, lag is fixed in insertcoint.
There are solutions for both roms to get the extra settings working in quick menu. (use search in thread)
There are solutions for both roms to get trackballwake(guides, search in threads).
-video rec. still down
-compas still down
anyhow, my 2 cents.. their both great! I picked insertcoin, not alot of difference between the 2 roms.. but in time that will change imo..
but for now, both very viable! havent tried ace & vision roms yet
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Yes, as you noticed there are almost no differences in our roms, what i can see when i diff the roms is that only thing changed is the ril and some apps removed from insertcoin... so i dont know what is causing lag in my rom :/ strange... should be the same... It can be the plurk which he removed and i still have in my rom (possible memory leak in that app), i will check that when i come back from my vacation, now i am working on A2SD version of v08.
have a nice day everyone
robocik said:
Yes, as you noticed there are almost no differences in our roms, what i can see when i diff the roms is that only thing changed is the ril and some apps removed from insertcoin... so i dont know what is causing lag in my rom :/ strange... should be the same... It can be the plurk which he removed and i still have in my rom (possible memory leak in that app), i will check that when i come back from my vacation, now i am working on A2SD version of v08.
have a nice day everyone
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well i don't know where the lag appears, i changed the rils, modded init.rc, changed all wpa related files with the ones from gb leak in an effort to fix some wifi problems, i removed some files, fonts, and moved lib_s to /system/lib.
Problem with my roms later than v01 is flash player 10.2, problem that is also on my froyo roms. and i have no clue how to fix it, thou in robo's roms the problem doesnt exists, plurk i removed from v04 so users should tell if that did the trick or not.
And as mentioned before, robocik did the hard - porting - hacking part. without this we wouldn't have a sense 2.1 rom.
btw, anyone have a clue why compass is acting strange? not that i ever use it, but some users need it
Hmmm its too difficult to compare 3 roms...coz me n baadnewz using same base even features is 100% same...only difference between tweaking n optimization...
But my vote for RCmixS coz robo is the first person who port sense 2.1 Rom...
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If you look at the SuperDuperAwesomeROM v0.3 by eddyOS isn't that 2.33 Gb with an earlier version of Sense but made for the Desire, not a port and people say compass doesn't work, so maybe HTC cockup?
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well i don't know where the lag appears, i changed the rils, modded init.rc, changed all wpa related files with the ones from gb leak in an effort to fix some wifi problems, i removed some files, fonts, and moved lib_s to /system/lib.
Problem with my roms later than v01 is flash player 10.2, problem that is also on my froyo roms. and i have no clue how to fix it, thou in robo's roms the problem doesnt exists, plurk i removed from v04 so users should tell if that did the trick or not.
And as mentioned before, robocik did the hard - porting - hacking part. without this we wouldn't have a sense 2.1 rom.
btw, anyone have a clue why compass is acting strange? not that i ever use it, but some users need it
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try to take my flash player and libs... uploading my A2SD rom, i have changed some flash stuff, we'll see if it helps for the users... have not tried it myself yet.
my users are reporting some calling issues, is that caused by the ril? i am using the one from the leaked rom... i think anyway hehe dont remember anymore.
need to run now. A2SD+ is on the way up.
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If you look at the SuperDuperAwesomeROM v0.3 by eddyOS isn't that 2.33 Gb with an earlier version of Sense but made for the Desire, not a port and people say compass doesn't work, so maybe HTC cockup?
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if the compass problem is in the bravo leak then yes is a problem from HTC. But again the leak is a TEST Build so problems are expected.
robocik said:
try to take my flash player and libs... uploading my A2SD rom, i have changed some flash stuff, we'll see if it helps for the users... have not tried it myself yet.
my users are reporting some calling issues, is that caused by the ril? i am using the one from the leaked rom... i think anyway hehe dont remember anymore.
need to run now. A2SD+ is on the way up.
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i took them in v04 /lib/plugins but still nogo, will keep investigating but same as you I'm on vacation with my family. After Easter I'll have more time
I think its leedroid 2.3.3
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I think its leedroid 2.3.3
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read the thread question before posting ****! btw currently running insertcoin S v04, no problems at all, removed plurk and stocks, also thinking about removing peep but I don't know how will this affect the UI(friendswidget for example). Peep is also using a lot of memory.
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read the thread question before posting ****! btw currently running insertcoin S v04, no problems at all, removed plurk and stocks, also thinking about removing peep but I don't know how will this affect the UI(friendswidget for example). Peep is also using a lot of memory.
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if u remove peep, friend stream will stll work but it will show only facebook updates
would like to vote for
RC-MIX
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InsertCoin as both of them feel very good in allday work situation
gave my vote to I-Coin cause i used it longer but now im on RCmix V8 and think i will stay there (top)
thx to Robo for making new STUFF available for our/my Desire
i couldnt find any way to get trackballwake on gb sense roms,i searched a lot.
Would someone plz be so nice to show where to get a flashable zip for it.
Why don't you three musketeers join forces to focus on just one bad ass rom?
I experienced slowdowns when I flashed the vorkmod of rcmix s 0.7, no slowdowns anymore after going back to the original rcmix s. I suspect it's some of these extra modules added (undervolt or a different governor)
btw my compass works quite well
Is anyone having problems with autobrightness (ie brightness suddenly going up and down again?)
oh my vote goes to robocik for now
On insertcoin, the WiFi randomly disconnects when the signal is low. Does this happen on other ROMs?
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On insertcoin, the WiFi randomly disconnects when the signal is low. Does this happen on other ROMs?
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the wi-fi problem on insertcoin seems to be fixed now. check you wi-fi sleep policy. but i seem to have a little problem. from the day i got my desire i used switchpro widget. i use it now also but now i can't make the flashlight work(the flash doesn't turn on). does anyone know a fix for this problem?
I've been following OMX and ics-deck-inc and I'm wondering which people think is better.
EDIT: Since I posted this, the Evervolv ICS ROM (posted on Twitter only) has gained popularity. It was the first to bring partial camera support, and although ics-deck has since added it, it seems most new features show up in Evervolv first. OMX is also fading away into obscurity.
These are my impressions based on the comments...
ics-deck-inc has been updated more recently (12/25), while development on OMX seems to be at a standstill (going on almost a month). I'm assuming the OMX standstill was related to the holidays though, since before that it was being updated very often.
EDIT: ics-deck-inc is now up to Alpha 5 as of this edit, while OMX is still at a standstill. It seems from this post that there is only 1 person working on OMX
OMX seems to be more further along, but maybe it's an illusion due to the fact that OMX has a much more detailed change log and explains the updates much more clearly (i.e. ics-deck-inc seems to be in "aplha1" still even through I know there have been a few updates)
EDIT: ics-deck-inc and Evervolv have far surpassed OMX. Personally,I prefer Evervolv, but I go back and forth between it and ics-deck-inc.
I see a lot of talk in the comments for ics-deck-inc about having to install Ext4 and Incredikernel, which adds more work for me and a higher chance of messing something up. I don't know about Ext4, but OMX already includes Incredikernel at least (although neither of them explain why I need Ext4 or Incredikernel).
EDIT: ics-deck-inc, Evervolv, and OMX all include incredikernel.
ics-deck-inc has a "Calendar fix" posted but I see a lot of commenters still having problems. Not sure whether or not this is a problem in OMX, but I haven't seen many people complaining about it (at least not lately).
EDIT: It's actually a lot simpler than that calendar fix... you just need to do this and all is well. There's also a fix for exchange calendar sync issues posted a little later in this thread
ics-deck-inc lists Wimax as something that's broken, but since when does the Incredible have Wimax anyway? Anyone know what the deal is with that?
EDIT: It seems this is there because the developer makes ROMs for other devices as well. Inc uses can just ignore it
So most of the above comments are obsolete at this point, but you can still feel free to use this thread to discuss changes and such. There is a separate feedback thread somewhere, but (a) that's just for deck, and (b) this is more about discussion than feedback.
I can just wait
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I've been following OMX and ics-deck-inc and I'm wondering which people think is better.
These are my impressions based on the comments...
ics-deck-inc has been updated more recently (12/25), while development on OMX seems to be at a standstill (going on almost a month). I'm assuming the OMX standstill was related to the holidays though, since before that it was being updated very often.
OMX seems to be more further along, but maybe it's an illusion due to the fact that OMX has a much more detailed change log and explains the updates much more clearly (i.e. ics-deck-inc seems to be in "aplha1" still even through I know there have been a few updates)
I see a lot of talk in the comments for ics-deck-inc about having to install Ext4 and Incredikernel, which adds more work for me and a higher chance of messing something up. I don't know about Ext4, but OMX already includes Incredikernel at least (although neither of them explain why I need Ext4 or Incredikernel).
ics-deck-inc has a "Calendar fix" posted but I see a lot of commenters still having problems. Not sure whether or not this is a problem in OMX, but I haven't seen many people complaining about it (at least not lately).
ics-deck-inc lists Wimax as something that's broken, but since when does the Incredible have Wimax anyway? Anyone know what the deal is with that?
Has anyone out there used both RECENTLY and have some thoughts?
Or does anyone who has only used one or the other want to agree or disagree with any of my impressions above?
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I've only used OMX. I got hooked on it, but unfortunately just flashed back to CM7.1 today. In OMX, calendar does not sync with google. Wifi tethering works. Cam no work. Can't use phone as external storage when connect to computer. Also, the ring tones and volume controls are all messed up: phone never rang, just vibrates. When playing pandora, sound is very low, even at max setting. Headphones are not recognized. When I connected to bluetooth in the car, i could make a call and talk over the bluetooth, but pandora or other media would not play through bluetooth.
Unfortunately it sounds like OMX will not be getting another update any time soon. And CM9 is probably still another several months away for INC, if they release it at all. So....looks like i'm stuck with stupid CM7.1 (or maybe MIUI) until i get my tegra3 ice cream phone!
I have been running ics-deck-inc since yesterday morning and here are some things I can tell you:
-Well, first off ics-deck-inc got updated a couple of days ago with loads of fixes including the camera. There are still some strange issues with the camera, but hey, it works.
-As far as incredikernel, ics-deck-inc already has it in the ROM. Therefore you don't have to flash it. There is a new incredikernel from 1/2/2012, while the one in the ROM is from December. Flash the new one if you want, but you don't have to.
-My calendar has worked without issue since I installed it. I think the issue is that calendars from Exchange and such don't sync with it.
-I think the Wimax thing is for another phone and not the incredible.
-Bluetooth works great. Syncs up with my head unit in my truck just fine. Pandora over bluetooth works great as well. The only thing is I can't get the metadata to stream to my head unit.
Hope that helps.
Well, I'll put my own experiences in now that a couple people have replied...
A couple days after posing the question, CyanogenMod decided to stop working for me (as others have noted that it tends to do after a period of time) so I decided to give some of these ICS ROMs a try since I was going to have to reflash anyway
I started with the Evervolv 2.1.0 Preview3 build posted on twitter so far [twitter.com]) because it was the first one to have camera support, which was one of the things keeping me from making the jump in the first place. The Evervolv build worked great for me. There was the occasional force close, but that is to be expected.
Then ics-deck-inc was updated to Alpha 4 yesterday to include, among other things camera support. I decided to move to deck since many people had noted that it was a bit better all-around than Evervolv. And now that it had camera support, there was no reason not to switch.
A few notes:
As awesomeo3000 pointed out, incredikernel is included. It's not the most up-to-date, but nobody has given any compelling reasons that you absolutely need the latest. (this was the case with Evervolv and OMX also)
I haven't really noticed a significant difference in battery life over my other ROMs, but that is probably because I am pretty much always around a charger so I don't really notice.
ics-deck comes with the Trebuchet (CM9) launcher, which is essentially stock ICS with some enhancements. It allows things like changing the # of homescreens, resizing any widget (stock only allows some), and other tweaks that are very useful but at the same time won't bother anyone who wants pure stock. Unfortunately, there seems to be two significant bugs in the app drawer in both the stock launcher and Trebuchet: (1) often times the next page of apps or widgets will show up in the background before you even attempt to switch pages, and (2) the launcher force closes very often when paging though the widgets. To alleviate that, I have switched to Nova Launcher which, like Trebuchet, is based on the stock ICS launcher but offers many helpful tweaks. I I still have had the occasional force close related to selecting widgets, but Nova also restores the long-press on the homescreen for widgets functionality, which can be used as another option if you experience force closes.
There are some small bugs that I have noticed here and there (like this one), but nothing really major, other than the well-known issues like calendar syncing and usb-host (see below). I also haven't yet tested a lot of things, like bluetooth for one.
My calendar syncing issues were solved by doing this: link. There was no need to replace the calender apps or anything like that. I can't speak for the Exchange Calendar syncing though. I can say that I was able to get an Exchange email account to work fine, but I don't use the calendar for that account.
As many people in the forums note, the multi-mount widget in the Android Market can be used to get usb-host support. Hopefully something will be built into the ROM in the future, but for now this should work. Alternatively, you can try what I use, the Samba Filesharing app. It's not as fast as USB, but wireless has it's own convenience advantages.
These are just some things I have noticed. There are some great features in ics-deck that I haven't even listed, and also some minor bugs. Alpha 5 is out now, only one day after Alpha 4, and I am excited to give it a try. I have to say that at this point I think they could drop the "Alpha." I think it could at the very least be considered "Beta" but that is just my opinion.
The important thing is this, anyone who is still using CM7 or any other ROM because they are waiting for an ICS ROM that is reasonably stable to use as a daily driver, I think ics-deck-inc has reached that point.
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Unfortunately it sounds like OMX will not be getting another update any time soon. And CM9 is probably still another several months away for INC, if they release it at all. So....looks like i'm stuck with stupid CM7.1 (or maybe MIUI) until i get my tegra3 ice cream phone!
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You should definitely try ics-deck (see my post above)
Does MMS work? how partially working is the camera? can u at least take pictures and video
Evervolv has a build going as well, and they have 8 MP camera functional as well as USB mass storage. I'm going to try it now to see how it works.
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Evervolv has a build going as well, and they have 8 MP camera functional as well as USB mass storage. I'm going to try it now to see how it works.
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Yup, I mentioned Evervolv's ROMs. I can definitely say the 8MP camera is working (video and panorama modes still aren't). I haven't tested out USB storage yet but they swear it works.
Right now Evervolv is my favorite, but they seem to go back and forth (hence both in my signature). Best to keep an eye on both (I've given up on OMX, big time)
EDIT: I have now also added Evervolv to the title of the thread.
I've tried both ICS deck and Evervolv, but neither display my exchange calendar in the calendar app, which is a showstopper for me. Unfortunate, as I likes me some sammich. Exchange syncs fine, and sync settings claims the calendar is up to date, but the calendar app says "no calendars" for the exchange account. Anyone had any luck with this or have a workaround that you like?
Exchange calendar issue fixed in Evervolv by flashing the zip from from this tweet.
There is a fix for the exchange.apk with the evervolv ics rom peview 5. I have it posted in rootzwiki. i had someone try it out and they confirmed it did work. Just look for post by apophis9283 in rootzwiki
Actually no need to install ext4 on any of them. Its not required.
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http://twitter.com/MongooseHelix
Here is a link to the next preview build from the evervolv guys.
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http://twitter.com/MongooseHelix
Here is a link to the next preview build from the evervolv guys.
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Thanks... here is the link to the actual twitter post: https://twitter.com/#!/MongooseHelix/status/160269895265828864
Direct Link to the ROM: http://t.co/btSyQQ0o (MD5 Sum e193f7bf9eb83233bff02aa40bb84fd0)
Direct Link to their new gapps: http://t.co/m3DOolG8
Direct Link to their exchange fix: http://t.co/IIALIskJ
(Note: they say not to flash the new gapps if you're using the exchange fix)
P.S. I updated the main thread to add Evervolv to the title... I didn't realize I could do that when I last updated it. (I also updated some of the text in there)
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Direct Link to their exchange fix: http://t.co/IIALIskJ
(Note: they say not to flash the new gapps if you're using the exchange fix)
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Note that the exchange fix isn't needed for Preview 6 anymore, they apparently baked it in. Installed P6, latest gapps and ext4 mod from a full wipe and all is well.
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Note that the exchange fix isn't needed for Preview 6 anymore, they apparently baked it in. Installed P6, latest gapps and ext4 mod from a full wipe and all is well.
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Does this one have panoramic for the camera? its probably the only thing keeping me from using any ICS at the moment (I could care less about video.. I think I've taken 4 in since I had the phone.. and I got it day 1)
Not sure, i went back to cm7 atm only because certain apps fc with ics
I couldnt stay away from the ics goodiness. Went back to evervolv preview 6. Hope these devs get these market apps compatible with ics soon
I loved Evervolv p5 but it still felt unfinished to me. Didn't have any FCs but after running MIUI for so long, I was missing the customization options. I'll probably be back soon though...
I've read through all of the individual ROM threads, as well as any question threads, and it seems like none of them are quite ready.
I run CM 7.2 with essentially no modifications, for reference. S-off, CWM 3.0.0.8.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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I've read through all of the individual ROM threads, as well as any question threads, and it seems like none of them are quite ready.
I run CM 7.2 with essentially no modifications, for reference. S-off, CWM 3.0.0.8.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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What are you missing from them to be a daily driver? I've had zero issues on my CM9 build and you can find two options in the development thread that are extremely stable.
The only thing not working with ICS is the stock camcorder to my knowledge, but third party apps still work if you need it.
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What are you missing from them to be a daily driver? I've had zero issues on my CM9 build and you can find two options in the development thread that are extremely stable.
The only thing not working with ICS is the stock camcorder to my knowledge, but third party apps still work if you need it.
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I'm wondering the same thing.
Almost everything works from what I used.
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The only thing not working with ICS is the stock camcorder to my knowledge, but third party apps still work if you need it.
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Abduction ICS and Abduction the 4th Kind have the Camcorder working good.
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I can't get mlb at bat to play mlb.tv on both DInc and Nook Color running CM9. Not a location issues, it tries but says Error-Can not play video. All other video seems to work.
Can't see any other issues with CM9, runs ok but maybe a little slower than CM7.
Depends what your standards for a daily driver are. If you mean a phone you can use to make calls, use some apps, without a lot of hassle, then yeah, they're daily drivers. If you want perfection, no glitches or bugs ever, then no.
The camcorder is the biggest issue for me (I was running Evervolv, but they're all built on the same base). Yeah, the camcorder kind of works, but playback is broken, and it's not nearly as smooth as stock. Also, I find that after a while (a day or two), things just start to get laggy. Not awful, but it doesn't fly like it does on stock. The graphics (especially the home screens and the app drawer) are actually way smoother on ICS than on stock, but it takes longer to actually get your apps opened and running. I'm currently rockin' Ice Cream Senseless with Holo Launcher. ( I also spent some time using Touch of Blue, I liked it a lot, but the 2am reboots kept making me miss my alarm clock and be late for work...) My current setup gives me 95% of what I liked about ICS, and it's very snappy and extremely stable. No doubt I'll be back to craving Ice Cream Sandwich (or Jelly Bean - lol) in another week or so, but I always end up coming back to this one.
Smoothness is the biggest issue, IMO.
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I used CM a9 build before going to the SIII and it worked the best for me. Was using Evervolv for a while, but that soon became very unstable.
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I used CM a9 build before going to the SIII and it worked the best for me. Was using Evervolv for a while, but that soon became very unstable.
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I ran drk.hd's CM a9 for a while and it worked well except for the known video camera issue. The only reason I changed is because I got flash happy.
I went to mamarley's CM9 w/linearo and it is running very smooth (still no stock video camera). Although, I had to use the ics incredikernel w/HWA because mamarley's kernel was not communicating with my touch screen.
Also, I find that after a while (a day or two), things just start to get laggy. Not awful, but it doesn't fly like it does on stock.
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This is the general consensus that scares me away.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719879
[ROM] Touchwiz 5.1.4 Fixed Location
I been on this rom for a bit. No major complaints. No CC and voice search will crash using navigation. But very smooth overall. Daily driver worthy for sure.
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I've been using the Linaro optimized CM9 ROM with the included Mamarley kernel.
The only issue I've run into is a problem with the bluetooth connecting to my car and not being able to play the call audio through the car speakers. I "think" they're working on a fix for it.
EDIT: SUPER sorry wrong forum
txlnghrnpe said:
I ran drk.hd's CM a9 for a while and it worked well except for the known video camera issue. The only reason I changed is because I got flash happy.
I went to mamarley's CM9 w/linearo and it is running very smooth (still no stock video camera). Although, I had to use the ics incredikernel w/HWA because mamarley's kernel was not communicating with my touch screen.
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is your's a amoled or slcd? I ended up having to do the same thing and I am just curious.
I've been on MIUI v4 since May and it's been very solid with the exception that Netflix doesn't work for me. It plays about 2 seconds of sound (no video) and then just a black screen. Going forward or backward in the video doesn't do anything to help it pick back up. MIUI GB worked great with Netflix previous to the ICS build. I thought maybe it was HWA related, but I've tried a few different kernels and haven't had any luck. Youtube plays just fine.
I am going to flash cm9 in a moment to see if Netflix works there.
edit: Flashed cm9 -- still the same issue with Netflix. Plays sound for about 2 seconds, then stops. Anyone else with this problem?
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Abduction ICS and Abduction the 4th Kind have the Camcorder working good.
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Loving Abduction the 4th Kind, thanks for the tip
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edit: Flashed cm9 -- still the same issue with Netflix. Plays sound for about 2 seconds, then stops. Anyone else with this problem?
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I think it's a problem related to the camcorder not working. I'm no Android programmer, but I'd bet it's because of a codec issue. Shame that barely any ROMs support a working camcorder.
Have you tried Evervolv 2.2.0p3? I hear that ROM has a working camcorder, but haven't tested it myself.
drk.hd CM9a9 with Chad/Tiny Incredikernel HWA
Working great as a daily driver, camcorder/netflix/youtube (occasionally) dont work.
Im very happy with it otherwise.
The most difficult part about changing ROMs in my rooted Droid Incredible (DINC) has been WiFi reception.
When I tried "Touch of Blue" v2.2, reputed to be a slight and very stable mod of stock Verizon, my WiFi reception at home simply died. Constant reconnection attempts with no actual connection established.
The best experience was when I downgraded from Gingerbread (GB) 2.3.4 to Froyo 2.2 in order to root and set S-OFF. WiFi was easy and strong, especially at home (as you might expect).
Reading up on this here at xda & elsewhere on the Internet indicated that the RSSI (Received Signal Strength Indicator) minimum was set much higher in GB than Froyo (or perhaps Froyo did not even have such a minimum at all), which caused the problem. Some said this meant the ROM must be tweaked, others said the radio baseband, still others the kernel. A few thought a manual tweak of the RSSI settings was possible, but gave insufficient details.
In any case, my (still limited) experience with modded ROMS for the DINC has not been good.
Can anyone who has installed a modded ROM of any sort report about WiFi connectivity, and what it takes to get good quallity -- a particular radio, a particular kernel, etc?
Best ROM threads aren't encouraged but there is already this thread that's been allowed so please use that one if you want to know the best ROM/lots of different opinions. I'll be editing your title as your post is very specific so is fine to be kept as not focussing on the best ROM in particular as your title suggests. Please don't make this a best ROM thread though.
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AvRS
Understood
AvRS said:
Best ROM threads aren't encouraged but there is already this thread that's been allowed so please use that one if you want to know the best ROM/lots of different opinions. I'll be editing your title as your post is very specific so is fine to be kept as not focussing on the best ROM in particular as your title suggests. Please don't make this a best ROM thread though.
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Please feel free to close this thread or even take it down if it causes a problem. If you need my permission as the original author, then you have it.
I just wanted to not have to load a bunch of ROMs to find one that works well with my WiFi. As another Question thread I just submitted indicates, I have had a very difficult time changing ROMs (at least on a downgrade path).
I haven't had any wifi issues with my DInc. Here's my current setup:
Albinoman's AOSP JB ROM RC2
Tiny's Incredikernel 9-21-2012
Radio 2.15.10.12.20
I also had no issues with the downgraded radio that comes with Froyo during the unlock process.
Yeah, I've had wifi issues on the shiny blue dinc as well. My router broadcasts at nearly max db, meaning I can pick it up 3 stories away in a masonry building built in 1964, and yet the dinc sometimes won't show full bars when I'm sitting right next to it, and forget walking down the hall. About to try Pimp my Rom, but if anyone has other input it's much appreciated.
eoraptor said:
Yeah, I've had wifi issues on the shiny blue dinc as well. My router broadcasts at nearly max db, meaning I can pick it up 3 stories away in a masonry building built in 1964, and yet the dinc sometimes won't show full bars when I'm sitting right next to it, and forget walking down the hall. About to try Pimp my Rom, but if anyone has other input it's much appreciated.
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Whats pimp my rom
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I just wanted to not have to load a bunch of ROMs to find one that works well with my WiFi. As another Question thread I just submitted indicates, I have had a very difficult time changing ROMs (at least on a downgrade path).
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I've never noticed any difference in wifi between the many ROM's I've run in the year since I've been a dinc user. My list includes:
Stock 2.3.4 Gingerbread
MIUI Gingerbread
MIUI Ice Cream Sandwich
AOKP Ice Cream Sandwich
Evervolv Ice Cream Sandwich
Ice Cream Senseless (My favorite for a long, long time, though it now needs a mod to kill the OTA nag)
Mamarley Linaro ICS
Evervolv Jelly Bean
Pons CM10 (best ROM ever!)
I know there has been an update to the Wifi kernel drivers for our phones relatively recently, but I've been unable to tell any difference. Wifi reception on my phone is very similar to what I get on my laptop: satisfactory, though by no means stellar. The similarity is understandable, though, as they both have low-end Broadcom wifi chips.
I spent as little time as possible on Froyo, just long enough to get s-off. Changing ROMs has been very easy for me on the dinc, but then I am a Linux user and am quite comfortable on the command line, so my 'easy' may not be the same as yours.
Hi everyone,
For last few months I've been on a journey through many roms on my gf's Virgin cdma one V. She wasn't happy with the performance of stock rom as it was really very slow at times, sometimes taking up to 8 seconds for a response to a keypress.
Anyway, I (in my foolish way) said "don't worry babe, there's bound to be a lot of roms out there that will speed your phone up nicely". Well, there are, but so far each one has some sort of issue that causes my gf to complain to me lol. As i stated the phone is on the latest hboot, 1.57 i think it is, so I know there are bound to be issues because of that.
But can anyone suggest a rom or roms that will work reasonably smoothly and are fully functional? Her favorite thing to complain about is that some roms work perfectly, but the camera is useless or it will not record video. I installed one rom that seemed perfect, only to find the camera crashed if there was a face detected in the image lol. Have tried roms with 3rd party camera programs, but none seem to work reliably.
I'm not asking for the "best rom", just want one that I can install on her phone and with a straight face say "everything should work now, camera and video recording too"
Thanks in anticipation,
Gonna post here because I'm wanting suggestions as well. Recently installed Rythmic ROM and it's killing my battery
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I've moved back to Lloirs excellent Slim Bean, smoooooooth as silk
even more unobtainable I'm afraid. I would advice bumping your hboot down and going with sphongle
i think he's askin for a cdma rom :silly::cyclops: