New SIII (former HOX) - Screen questions, etc. - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

So, I'm coming from an AT&T HTC One XL and I have a handful of questions. The screen and the camera on the HOXL were borderline perfection in my opinion, but the phone had a few flaws led me to an SIII.
1) The auto brightness on the SIII is laughable. The HTC One X was seamless and smooth with its auto brightness adjustment, and I never once turned auto brightness off. I have had the SIII for a day and I cannot stand it. Are there any solutions out there for the jerkiness and delay of the SIII's auto brightness function? If not, what do most of you keep your brightness at? Right now, I'm finding ~70% to be fair. Anything below that is a sacrifice and I don't do sacrifices for battery life.
2) Pentile.... I cannot stop noticing the pentile. Granted, I am coming from perfection in terms of screen quality I was hoping it wouldn't be this noticeable. To exacerbate the issue, I use my phone an awful lot as an e-reader. My eyes were playing games with me while using the Kindle App last night (same settings as One X). I kept blinking as I thought it was a result of my eyes, but it was the screen. The font simply does not have smooth, sharp edges. Will my eyes get used to this or is this going to be a constant battle?
3) I recall a setting on my GS2 where I could sync up phone call ringtone volume and notification volume when I adjusted the volume on the side of the phone. I did not find this setting on the SIII. Does one exist? I
4) One the One X, when I had headphones in, notifications and phone calls would be pumped through the headphones instead of the loudspeaker. Is there a setting I can enable where ringtone and notification tone flow through headphones when attached?
Thanks!

cfn87 said:
So, I'm coming from an AT&T HTC One XL and I have a handful of questions. The screen and the camera on the HOXL were borderline perfection in my opinion, but the phone had a few flaws led me to an SIII.
1) The auto brightness on the SIII is laughable. The HTC One X was seamless and smooth with its auto brightness adjustment, and I never once turned auto brightness off. I have had the SIII for a day and I cannot stand it. Are there any solutions out there for the jerkiness and delay of the SIII's auto brightness function? If not, what do most of you keep your brightness at? Right now, I'm finding ~70% to be fair. Anything below that is a sacrifice and I don't do sacrifices for battery life.
2) Pentile.... I cannot stop noticing the pentile. Granted, I am coming from perfection in terms of screen quality I was hoping it wouldn't be this noticeable. To exacerbate the issue, I use my phone an awful lot as an e-reader. My eyes were playing games with me while using the Kindle App last night (same settings as One X). I kept blinking as I thought it was a result of my eyes, but it was the screen. The font simply does not have smooth, sharp edges. Will my eyes get used to this or is this going to be a constant battle?
3) I recall a setting on my GS2 where I could sync up phone call ringtone volume and notification volume when I adjusted the volume on the side of the phone. I did not find this setting on the SIII. Does one exist? I
4) One the One X, when I had headphones in, notifications and phone calls would be pumped through the headphones instead of the loudspeaker. Is there a setting I can enable where ringtone and notification tone flow through headphones when attached?
Thanks!
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1- I personally use a modded auto brightness but you can probably find a app that will do a better job at it than stock firmware. I believe there are some in here as well (in the app section of XDA).
2- Never had a android that didn't have a SAMOLED screen so I don't know what difference you're talking about. Although, I use my phone quite a lot as well and my eyes don't get tired. Keep in mind that screen brightness too high = damages your eyes, too low = hard on your eyes.
3- Settings -> Sound -> Volumes -> check link volume.
4- That should be on by default. If it's not, there's either a app that changed it or you did yourself.
Btw, what firmware are you running?

BWolf56 said:
1- I personally use a modded auto brightness but you can probably find a app that will do a better job at it than stock firmware. I believe there are some in here as well (in the app section of XDA).
2- Never had a android that didn't have a SAMOLED screen so I don't know what difference you're talking about. Although, I use my phone quite a lot as well and my eyes don't get tired. Keep in mind that screen brightness too high = damages your eyes, too low = hard on your eyes.
3- Settings -> Sound -> Volumes -> check link volume.
4- That should be on by default. If it's not, there's either a app that changed it or you did yourself.
Btw, what firmware are you running?
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Thanks for the reply!
3 - Don't see this setting...
4 - Ya know what, maybe I did. The only setting I changed was unchecking "connecting earphones will enable audio applications in quick panel" in the Accessory menu as I didn't like all the apps being displayed in the notification area. I wouldn't think those are related though...
EDIT: I'm on stock ATT 4.1.1
EDIT 2: Just tried checking the box I unchecked for the audio applications and notifications still play through loudspeaker..

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Auto Brightness working for you?

Hi Guys,
So I finally got the desire after being with an iPhone for the past 18 months. Lovely phone so far, even if it feels a little 'work in progress' in some depts.
Anyways!
Have any of you with the phone enabled auto brightness? Does it work? When I jump into the settings to enable it it seems to kick in (once i tick the auto brightness checkbox) but once I actually hit OK to save the changes the screen brightness shoots up again and then doesnt seem to react to ambient light.
weird.
I am running the t-mobile android (uk)
Yep, I have the same thing, glad it's not just me then!
I don't think I've seen it adjust by itself at all...
It works for me and I have seen it adjust.
im not sure really if it works because it always seems the same? i have changed it to 30% now which is just acceptable and we ll see if it gives any battery boost
cez10 said:
im not sure really if it works because it always seems the same? i have changed it to 30% now which is just acceptable and we ll see if it gives any battery boost
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That's the idea, auto brightness adjusts so that the screen looks the same brightness to your eye at any light level. When it's dark the brightness decreases and when it's light the brightness increases thus you see it as thee same due to the way your eye is already adjusted.
cez10 said:
im not sure really if it works because it always seems the same? i have changed it to 30% now which is just acceptable and we ll see if it gives any battery boost
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EroThraX said:
That's the idea, auto brightness adjusts so that the screen looks the same brightness to your eye at any light level. When it's dark the brightness decreases and when it's light the brightness increases thus you see it as thee same due to the way your eye is already adjusted.
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yeah Lol exactly, thats the whole point of auto screen adjustment. if you are indoors all (or most of) the time like me than keep it manual to 30-50%. otherwise leave it auto
Mine works a treat the only thing i do is when i go out the house i turn the brightness to manual and put it on full, as this is the only bad side to this phone the led does suffer in direct sun so full brightness is required.
I haven't seen any change in my screen brightness, whether in full sunlight or middle of the night in a dark room!
Is a bit annoying, would like to know if it can be fixed or we're waiting for the next firmware...
Where's the sensor ? With the Hero, placing a finger over the top part of the phone tricked the sensor but it doesn't seem to on the Desire. Interestingly though, there must be something there, the way the screen flashes up when you remove the phone from your ear
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Hi Guys,
I am running the t-mobile android (uk)
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Works fine here
It seems that on my Desire the only time the automatic brightness actually tests the light is when I unlock my screen.
I can actually see the brightness change then, but if I switch lights on/off while it's already unlocked it doesn't automaticly adapt to the light.
I only checked it through the Android SDK using Dalvik Debug Monitor and the phone certainly did continuously check and correct screen brightness according to it. Visually, it was too difficult to discern what was happening and when due to my own visual limitations when the amount of light changed.
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Daylight

I'm sure as you know the major drawback of the Desire is the screen's total invisibility in sunlight. Is there anything I can do to improve this?
Ta.
Joe
Only use it at night.....
Or turn the brightness up.
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I'm sure as you know the major drawback of the Desire is the screen's total invisibility in sunlight. Is there anything I can do to improve this?
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It's clearly visible to me in direct sunlight on a clear, sunny, 28 degrees C day above 67% brightness. I used it for navigation in car in such a state for 3 hours. But... my eyesight is still working sharp in both eyes.
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Joefried said:
I'm sure as you know the major drawback of the Desire is the screen's total invisibility in sunlight. Is there anything I can do to improve this?
Ta.
Joe
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I know the Desire screen don't have any problem in daylight.
If you can't see the screen in daylight use auto-brightness instead of low brightness so you can see the screen
I don't have a problem with my desire in the sun, it very visible. Try seting the brightness to auto.
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Crack da' brightness!
I pulled my battery the second day I had my desire, I thought it had crashed but I just couldn't see the screen.
While the Desire's screen isn't great in daylight, it's never been so bad that I've been unable to type, make calls etc.
Watching a film or playing a game in broad daylight wouldn't be much fun, but as far as normal usage goes on sunny days, I've had no real problems.
The auto brightness feature isn't completely reliable in my experience. You could always use a brightness widget to set 100% brightness for outdoor use.
Maybe my eyesight is really bad... how do you turn on Auto brightness?
Joe
Menu, Settings, Sound and Display, Brightness, check the box.
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I have to agree with the OP - the screen is useless in bright daylight. It's my number one annoyance at the moment...
setspeed said:
I have to agree with the OP - the screen is useless in bright daylight. It's my number one annoyance at the moment...
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Maybe you don't have auto-brightness enabled or have a very low brightness - and yes, with little brightness you can't see a thing.
But i live in a very very sunny country, and with auto-brightness i don't have any problem with the Desire screen.
I don't have any problems with screen brightness on my desire. I leave it on auto and can sweetie perfectly well when outside too
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I've found an anti-glare screen protector helps outdoors. I'm still not sure I like how it makes the screen look though.
Are there different screens out there : ???: I purposely used this phone in direct very hot sunlight and I could clearly see all that I needed to see... perhaps you have dodgy sunlight up your way?
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setspeed said:
I have to agree with the OP - the screen is useless in bright daylight. It's my number one annoyance at the moment...
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I would suggest some kind of head torch.
It must be very dull where some of you live. The screen is not good in full sun.
And yes, I know how to turn the brightness to max.
After I turned on auto brightness, I found I didn't have an issue
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i think it depends on your screen protector.
I think the users complaining mean this problem: http://images.anandtech.com/doci/3764/3430-9329.jpg (lower left screen)
And if you're in that situation with very strong, direct sunlight then your screen brightness is still below 25%.
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I use the stock "power control" widget which is consisting of 5 different switchers including brightness to maximize brightness level when under daylight. However, when you use this, auto-brightness will no longer be in use (to enable it back you have to go to the settings manually). Alternatively, i use a 3rd party app called "brightness profiles" that is available in the market. With this app, I can use auto function whenever i want thanks to its shortcut (a nice widget) on my home screen, as well as various pre-determined brightness levels; low-normal-high-max, etc. You can add more profiles to existing three as default and customize them as per your desire i.e. adjust level and rename profiles. However, the main disadvantage of this nice prog is; when you use it in the lowest level profile, then switched from it to "auto", then -after a while- when you need to use it in max just because of you are under the sunlight, as soon as you unmark "auto" checkbox in the app window it will go to the lowest level since you have used it most recently. in this case, you just need to set to normal before activating "auto" via this app, at least until its dev solve this issue. Anyways, it is worth to give a try.

Just got my new GNex and wanted to know if this is normal

I noticed that the grays on my screen sometimes turn to violet for no reason at all? Does this happen to you guys as well? My speakers are also barely audible, I had an SGS2 and the loud speakers were very loud, are there mods or roms that address this issue that give them a little boost?
Overall an excellent phone, easily the best performing phone I have had.
kingofthebraves said:
I noticed that the grays on my screen sometimes turn to violet for no reason at all? Does this happen to you guys as well? My speakers are also barely audible, I had an SGS2 and the loud speakers were very loud, are there mods or roms that address this issue that give them a little boost?
Overall an excellent phone, easily the best performing phone I have had.
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The grays on my screen have never ever turned violet, that seems a bit weird. The speakers I mine are also pretty good, I would maybe take it back.
I noticed this when I first got my phone and my battery was almost empty (3% or less). If I power on my screen the grays would be fine but after I turn it off and on again it would turn violet. I updated to 4.0.4 and so far I have not been able to replicate the issue.
My loudspeakers are just extremely soft. I can barely hear anything while watching a movie, youtube or listening to music with the loudspeakers. Are you sure this is not normal?? Is there any way for me to test this with an app or something?
Download Volume+ from the Google play market. You can definitely see a huge difference when tweaking the speaker volume. As for the screen turning violet, it could be a screen defect.
Deekayy said:
Download Volume+ from the Google play market. You can definitely see a huge difference when tweaking the speaker volume. As for the screen turning violet, it could be a screen defect.
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Downloaded the free one and it worked perfectly. Does this app affect the headphones as well?
Another quirk I found with my GN is that every time something crashes or an error occurs the phone automatically asks me to send an email to report. Is this normal? Is there any way to turn this off? Do custom roms take out this nuisance?
Here is the email:
Yakju-user 4.0.4 imm761 330937
release-keys
(sent from bugmailer)
and it attached a text file and a screenshot
*never mind it seems that it's a bug report generated by pressing down the volume up down adn power button at the same time
kingofthebraves said:
I noticed that the grays on my screen sometimes turn to violet for no reason at all? Does this happen to you guys as well? My speakers are also barely audible, I had an SGS2 and the loud speakers were very loud, are there mods or roms that address this issue that give them a little boost?
Overall an excellent phone, easily the best performing phone I have had.
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purple screen when brightness turned all the way down isnt normal, its seems to be a common issue but screen should not be purple(violet)
Yes my screen is purple too and I have this popping sound when audible touch tones are checked. Will call Google tomorrow for a replacement.
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I would go back to the store to get a new one.. the screen is not supposed to be purple. as for the volume+ app.. I'm a bit frightened by it. Okay the speaker is kinda soft when I'm being called, but the speakers were designed and calibrated for those volumes.
overriding that an break things...
amonfog said:
I would go back to the store to get a new one.. the screen is not supposed to be purple. as for the volume+ app.. I'm a bit frightened by it. Okay the speaker is kinda soft when I'm being called, but the speakers were designed and calibrated for those volumes.
overriding that an break things...
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Ok I finally got to reproduce the issue. If I open my messaging app on a place with low light condition or at night time (display brightness automatically goes down), the top gray bar which has the contact name number call sign and attach sign turns violet but strangely enough the lower gray bar which holds the new message icon has a lighter shade and displays the color correctly.
If I revert to settings and disable auto brightness and max it out and go back to messaging it becomes gray again. I also tried it on auto brightness on a normally lit room and it's fine. Anyone else with the same issue?
I've used the SGS before and remember that white's on my screen would be a little more grayish/yellowish. This must be an issue caused by pentile displays. I was beginning to wonder if it was my eyesight that was failing me lol!
Does this happen to your units as well?

Brightness reduced when some apps launched

With auto-brightness turned off and brightness turned up all the way, I am seeing the brightness go down when some apps are launched and turn back up when the app is closed. I noticed this today when launching GoChat and then also saw it when launching the stock jellybean web browser. I am not sure but I think this has only been happening since the last software update (T-Mobile USA).
I wonder if others are noticing this.
gruuvin said:
With auto-brightness turned off and brightness turned up all the way, I am seeing the brightness go down when some apps are launched and turn back up when the app is closed. I noticed this today when launching GoChat and then also saw it when launching the stock jellybean web browser. I am not sure but I think this has only been happening since the last software update (T-Mobile USA).
I wonder if others are noticing this.
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Saw the same thing when I launched camera app, I am on the latest update.
One difference is that I'm on auto bright and the brightness never came back
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gruuvin said:
With auto-brightness turned off and brightness turned up all the way, I am seeing the brightness go down when some apps are launched and turn back up when the app is closed. I noticed this today when launching GoChat and then also saw it when launching the stock jellybean web browser. I am not sure but I think this has only been happening since the last software update (T-Mobile USA).
I wonder if others are noticing this.
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From DisplayMate:
Since the display often uses 50 percent or more of the total Smartphone power, various display power management schemes are frequently used. The Galaxy S4 uses one innovative approach to overcome this – when Automatic Brightness is turned on, the Peak Brightness becomes significantly brighter in high ambient lighting than is possible with Manual Brightness, up to as high as 475 cd/m2, which is 34 percent higher than is possible with Manual Brightness. This is done so that users can’t permanently set the brightness to very high values, which would run down the battery quickly.​From Samsung:
Samsung Adapt Display: The Galaxy S4 "learns" what you are viewing and adjusts the display's brightness accordingly. If the phone senses you are reading an article, for example, it will illuminate from a more muted brightness.​
BarryH_GEG said:
From DisplayMate:
Since the display often uses 50 percent or more of the total Smartphone power, various display power management schemes are frequently used. The Galaxy S4 uses one innovative approach to overcome this – when Automatic Brightness is turned on, the Peak Brightness becomes significantly brighter in high ambient lighting than is possible with Manual Brightness, up to as high as 475 cd/m2, which is 34 percent higher than is possible with Manual Brightness. This is done so that users can’t permanently set the brightness to very high values, which would run down the battery quickly.​From Samsung:
Samsung Adapt Display: The Galaxy S4 "learns" what you are viewing and adjusts the display's brightness accordingly. If the phone senses you are reading an article, for example, it will illuminate from a more muted brightness.​
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Well, I have auto-brightness, auto adjust screen tone and power saver ALL TURNED OFF, but this 'feature' persists... and as I said, this is not just during web browsing, this is also during messaging with a 3rd party app, namely GoChat, with black background theme.... this is just not a smart feature.
maybe this is taken care of in the new update. i haven't unpacked it just yet. hoping to do that over the weekend or maybe even tonight.
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this 'feature' persists.
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What you're describing sounds like how Adapt Display is supposed to work. Does the display act any differently when you enable Adapt Display?
gruuvin said:
Well, I have auto-brightness, auto adjust screen tone and power saver ALL TURNED OFF, but this 'feature' persists... and as I said, this is not just during web browsing, this is also during messaging with a 3rd party app, namely GoChat, with black background theme.... this is just not a smart feature.
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I have the same issue. Turned everything off completely and it still happens. I posted about a week ago and some people were having the same issue.
Some people said it was adapt display on, but I have it off. Once I switched to.the CM10.1 the issue went away. I switched back to wicked Rom and I'm still getting the same problem.
Maybe a dev will eventually figure it out while building a Rom
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I have the same issue. Turned everything off completely and it still happens. I posted about a week ago and some people were having the same issue.
Some people said it was adapt display on, but I have it off. Once I switched to.the CM10.1 the issue went away. I switched back to wicked Rom and I'm still getting the same problem.
Maybe a dev will eventually figure it out while building a Rom
Sent from my SGH-M919
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It seems like this is a feature that cannot be disabled by the end user. This is from Anandtech's review
"On the brightness front, the SGS4 includes dynamic contrast functions that cannot be disabled and change as a function of what is being displayed. There's an "auto adjust screen tone" checkbox under display but don't let that fool you, that doesn't disable dynamic contrast, just white point."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/8
If it really annoys you, you can always try rooting it and install CM10. I'll be a drastic change but at least you wont have to deal with Samsung's bloat

Questions From a Potential Buyer

My main 2 concerns about the m7 that eventually led to me returning it for the Note 3 were:
- Overheating. My m7 was always hot to the touch, even when just browsing the Internet. Has this issue been fixed in the m8?
- This one is not a classic complaint, but it annoyed me personally. The lowest volume setting on the m7 was way too loud. When I would lay down at night time and, say, watch a YouTube video the lowest volume setting was always too loud and become annoying at night during sleeping hours. Hopefully the m8s volume pallete has expanded.
Also can the button bar be collapsed when playing games to make everything full screen? Is there an option in settings?
Thanks.
My m7 was always hot to the touch, even when just browsing the Internet.
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I own the M7 now and I've never had such issue...
The lowest volume setting on the m7 was way too loud.
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That's boom sound, you can't do anything about it
Also can the button bar be collapsed when playing games to make everything full screen?
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I don't know this necause I still don't have the phone but if not there will surely be such an option with custom ROMs
I had the HTC DNA which shared the same problems you mentioned about the m7. I played CoC for 2 hours last night and there was a noticeable difference in the lack of heat. I don't think it ever got hotter than body temperature through an Otterbox Defender. The DNA was a mini-furnace in the same type of case.
I watched a quick youtube video after we went to bed and it was barely audible on the lowest volume setting and didn't wake my wife on lvl 3.
Yes the bar disappears when you go full screen. You have to drag from the speaker inwards to make it reappear.
NoFanboy said:
Also can the button bar be collapsed when playing games to make everything full screen? Is there an option in settings?
Thanks.
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This is a feature in Android 4.4, so yes the on screen keys+notification bar can disappear in games, videos, and YouTube.
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NoFanboy said:
My main 2 concerns about the m7 that eventually led to me returning it for the Note 3 were:
- Overheating. My m7 was always hot to the touch, even when just browsing the Internet. Has this issue been fixed in the m8?
- This one is not a classic complaint, but it annoyed me personally. The lowest volume setting on the m7 was way too loud. When I would lay down at night time and, say, watch a YouTube video the lowest volume setting was always too loud and become annoying at night during sleeping hours. Hopefully the m8s volume pallete has expanded.
Also can the button bar be collapsed when playing games to make everything full screen? Is there an option in settings?
Thanks.
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As far as overheating - I know what you mean. My M7 and my DNA both had that issue, and thus far I haven't had that problem with the M8 yet. It always seems to be fairly cool regardless of what I'm doing.
I had the same volume issue with the M7 - even on the lowest volume setting, I'd always feel like it was too loud at night. The M8 has a huge volume range for its speakers, ranging from barely being able to hear it to people on other floors being able to hear it.
When you're on a fullscreen application (videos, games, etc), the button bar collapses automatically (not sure if there's even anything you can do to prevent it).

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