I m a bit confuse about Exynos Abuse, I rooted my phone about a month and half ago with Exynos Abuse but I have a huge question, when an official update comes how can I unroot to update? or can I be okay without updating? Please some help would be much appreciated.
As long as you still have stock recovery....my advice would be to grab ota rootkeeper from the market. Backup root and either temp unroot with it or use Supersu to unroot. Grab the OTA and use ota rootkeeper to regain root privileges.
Froid said:
As long as you still have stock recovery....my advice would be to grab ota rootkeeper from the market. Backup root and either temp unroot with it or use Supersu to unroot. Grab the OTA and use ota rootkeeper to regain root privileges.
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Alrighty, thanks for the advice! I shall do that.
A forewaring; Some "official updates" by AT&T are patches that remove certain exploits that allow us to do what we do with our phones, such as rooting and custom ROMs. Just because AT&T has an official update, it does not necessarily mean it's a good thing.
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A forewaring; Some "official updates" by AT&T are patches that remove certain exploits that allow us to do what we do with our phones, such as rooting and custom ROMs. Just because AT&T has an official update, it does not necessarily mean it's a good thing.
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Sooo you are trying to say I can be okay without doing the update? because in that case I would be more than happy to not unroot my phone lol.
The AT&T updates are unnecessary with what we do. The ROM we're using is actually further along than what AT&T is willing to give us in terms of updates. If and when AT&T gets around to giving us 4.2, we will probably be moving along to 5 already.
If att pushes an update chances are there will be a cwm/twrp flashable version of it in the development section in a day or two:thumbup:
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Alright, thanks guys!! btw Hi Sheperd.
yep, accepting OTA updates is the mortal enemy of anyone who enjoys the "treats" that we get here on XDA...there is NOTHING in an OTA update, that wont get baked into the custom roms here, if it is anything that will make our phones better..
avoid them like the plague..
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yep, accepting OTA updates is the mortal enemy of anyone who enjoys the "treats" that we get here on XDA...there is NOTHING in an OTA update, that wont get baked into the custom roms here, if it is anything that will make our phones better..
avoid them like the plague..
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Lol ok sir I will avoid them. I was just wondering, I just wanted to make sure not to do something wrong.
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Hello all, I'm new to smartphones, Android, xda and rooting in general, but I understand the concept, value and associated risks. I'm following the thread by toastcfh in the EVO Development forum about how to root the EVO, but I don't want to clutter it up with such a basic question, so I'm posting it here.
I want to have root access in order to get rid of bloatware, play with custom roms and just generally have full access to my EVO. I do NOT, however, want to get in over my head. I want to develop a better understanding of Android before taking full advantage of what rooting offers. My concern is that if I don't root it as soon as I get it, HTC will patch the holes and I won't be able to do so later.
So here is my question: Can I root the darn thing when I get it on 6/4 and continue to run Sprint's delivered ROM? Then, as I accumulate more knowledge and experience, start to dig deeper into the OS and make use of what root has to offer? Also, can Sprint or HTC "un-root" a device via an OTA update or something similar? Sorry if these are noob questions, but as a noob, they're all I've got.
Oh, and thanks to all the folks who make this site so informative. It truly is a great resource.
You can root and remove your bloatware and even continue to use the stock ROM if you want. You can flash custom ROMs as you see fit. Remember, flashing a Sprint update will most likely unroot your device, so you should always just get a custom ROM based off the latest update instead of flashing the official updates. If you need to send your phone to Sprint you can always unroot with one of these official updates so they will never know about your root.
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You can root and remove your bloatware and even continue to use the stock ROM if you want. You can flash custom ROMs as you see fit. Remember, flashing a Sprint update will most likely unroot your device, so you should always just get a custom ROM based off the latest update instead of flashing the official updates. If you need to send your phone to Sprint you can always unroot with one of these official updates so they will never know about your root.
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Thanks for the info.... I'm a noob as well, and am counting on you guys with your wealth of experience to show us the way.
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You can root and remove your bloatware and even continue to use the stock ROM if you want. You can flash custom ROMs as you see fit. Remember, flashing a Sprint update will most likely unroot your device, so you should always just get a custom ROM based off the latest update instead of flashing the official updates. If you need to send your phone to Sprint you can always unroot with one of these official updates so they will never know about your root.
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Thanks for the speedy response! Regarding Sprint updates, is this something that you must accept discretely via a keystroke or check box or something similar? Can you set the phone to not check for updates until you tell it to, or will it prompt the user on some sort of routine basis?
erikivy said:
Thanks for the speedy response! Regarding Sprint updates, is this something that you must accept discretely via a keystroke or check box or something similar? Can you set the phone to not check for updates until you tell it to, or will it prompt the user on some sort of routine basis?
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If it is the same with the Hero, OTA updates won't work on a custom ROM. I'm also sure that you can decline an OTA update on the stock ROM.
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If it is the same with the Hero, OTA updates won't work on a custom ROM. I'm also sure that you can decline an OTA update on the stock ROM.
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Perfect! Thanks again.
Anyone have an opinion on how much interference rooting this phone will cause for OTA?
This is my first Samsung phone after coming from a rooted MyTouch 3G slide, so I'm not too familiar with the effect rooting will have on OTA for this bad boy as opposed to HTC devices. As such, I'm torn between rooting now or waiting until after the OTA for WiFi calling (supposedly coming in November).
I'm aware that I can freeze apps with Titanium Backup as opposed to just deleting them, but never done that so not sure how easy it will be to make the OTA think the phone is stock and apply the update. Also aware that I can probably apply the APK for the WiFi calling manually (once released to the wild) but again, probably not as easy as just letting the OTA handle it.
Thanks for any thoughts.
-GP
From what I've been hearing around the forums, it sounds like a group is working on getting a WiFi-Calling "mod" working for rooted SGS IIs. So if you do root, you'd probably be able to do an aftermarket upgrade to obtain WiFi Calling, would be my guess.
Barring that, the Stock Kernel and Source are around, so I recommend grabbing them before you root, that way if you feel you need to un-root to get the OTA update, it should be relatively hassle-free. You can probably just go back to stock, update, then re-root.
As always, probably would want to do Nandroid Backup and back up all of your data/apps as necessary.
GaryParr said:
Anyone have an opinion on how much interference rooting this phone will cause for OTA?
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I had the same concerns myself, but agree that now that we have the ability to revert to stock if necessary, that fear is unfounded. I'm planning to root this weekend.
AmbroseAI said:
I had the same concerns myself, but agree that now that we have the ability to revert to stock if necessary, that fear is unfounded. I'm planning to root this weekend.
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If you look into system processes developers usually put a process called Force kill ota update. If your just rooting for now the ota will still come even with a rooted phone.
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If you look into system processes developers usually put a process called Force kill ota update. If your just rooting for now the ota will still come even with a rooted phone.
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Hey Killbynature, can you possibly explain that? Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but a "Force kill OTA" process sounds like it would... force kill an OTA update, which seems contrary to your next statement that the OTA will still come if you are rooting.
I am curious about this as well could you clarify a little on what you mean?
Thanks
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Hey Killbynature, can you possibly explain that? Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but a "Force kill OTA" process sounds like it would... force kill an OTA update, which seems contrary to your next statement that the OTA will still come if you are rooting.
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The developers only add that process in roms. If you just want root and a different kernel you still be able to get the update. Basically if you don't flash roms you'll be able to get the update still.
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The developers only add that process in roms. If you just want root and a different kernel you still be able to get the update.
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Makes sense now, thanks.
is there any reason that I SHOULD NOT accept the verizon ota update after rooting?
Just got home and rooted it 10 minutes ago and haven't gotten around to flashing a rom yet.
generally, regardless of your phone, once you've rooted it's best not to do any OTA update as it can screw up your phone.
if it's one of those "i absolutely need this OTA!" deals, then it'd be best to un-root first, apply it, then re-root.
It's risky....Least it will do is install and unroot. Worst you could be stuck in the stock recovery....and that's not a fun thing to mess with.... If it bothers you your better off just flashing CWM and a new rom.
yeah I'm going to flash a new rom and forget about it.
Looks like android revolution is gonna be the first attempt.. any suggestions otherwise?
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yeah I'm going to flash a new rom and forget about it.
Looks like android revolution is gonna be the first attempt.. any suggestions otherwise?
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Im on revolution and it is still nagging for ota update any way to disable the nag?
For other phones, you most definitely do NOT want to accept OTA's. For this phone though, the bootloader can be locked and unlocked at will, so OTA's should be okay to accept, in theory. ;-)
If you want to be absolutely sure though, just listen to the general advice of "don't accept OTA's".
Yesterday I received a message from Tmobile that there is a new software update for my phone. I was at work and did not want to bother with it so I tried to say not to the update and the only option is to postpone for a maximum of 1 day. To get out of the message I selected the home key. I keep getting the reminder every 4 hours and the message will not go away from notifications drop down screen.
Tmobile seems very eager to push this update out, I rooted my phone about a month ago so I could use the tethering feature when I'm on call without the extra expense, also used Titanium to freeze the bloatware apps as well. Will this software update affect or undo my root access? Does anyone know if the update is good or bad?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Yes you will lose root but it can be rooted easily using the same method. This question has been answered over and over try searching a bit.
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Thank you for the information I did see threads on the subject but they were on older software updates.I did not run across one that talked about this latest update, I did not know if there was something different or if the the new update made it difficult to re-root. Some updates may only be beneficial to Tmobile and not the end user. Does anyone have the specifics on the update? Pros and Cons?
I'd like to know if the update is worth it as well.
My phone is currently rooted but I was not the one who did it so I'm afraid to lose root because I wouldn't know how to re-root it.
Is there a way to update without losing root?
I went ahead and updated my phone and it did not undo root. It is a software update that will allow u to upgrade to ICS.
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I went ahead and updated my phone and it did not undo root. It is a software update that will allow u to upgrade to ICS.
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You sure about that? If updating to the UVLDE 2.3.6 GB via OTA, I am pretty sure you lost root. You probably still have the super user app installed, but that in and of itself does not ensure root. Try using a app that requires root access such as Titanium Backup.
Has anyone done the OTA update from verizon?
I expect that I will lose root, but can I get it back the same way I did with 10B?
Dont do it.
I got my G3 about 4 days ago, and i immediately updated it. I think i found a way to flash back to 10b so i can root. As of now, i am unable to root with stomproot, ioroot, and purpledrake (or whatever its called). I have no idea what would happen if a rooted g3 with 10b upgraded to 11c.
Maybe towel root would work
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Towel root didn't work for 10b
blindguyinanorgy said:
Has anyone done the OTA update from verizon?
I expect that I will lose root, but can I get it back the same way I did with 10B?
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blindguyinanorgy said:
Towel root didn't work for 10b
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Please refer to your Verizon G3 forums - http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general. There are several threads there that talk about the OTA update, why it is not good to take OTA updates, and luckily for you a method for getting back to 10b.
Consider yourself lucky. There is no guarantee that you will be able to downgrade after taking an OTA update. Blindly taking updates is a great way to loose root and bump in the future.
Almost every thread that shows you how to root and bump tells you to not take updates, c'mon guys they are telling you to protect your device.
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Please refer to your Verizon G3 forums - http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general. There are several threads there that talk about the OTA update, why it is not good to take OTA updates, and luckily for you a method for getting back to 10b.
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I didn't think there was a verizon thread last time i looked (months ago). Someone please move this thread.
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Consider yourself lucky. There is no guarantee that you will be able to downgrade after taking an OTA update. Blindly taking updates is a great way to loose root and bump in the future.
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Not lucky, I know to ask first, hence this thread.
I didnt realize how for the community has come on custom flashing since I got my phone and rooted it. Definitely need to spend some time seeing what we got.
I did the update last night. I can confirm that the update did not remove my root and in fact the update only was to make the phone run more smoothly.
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I did the update last night. I can confirm that the update did not remove my root and in fact the update only was to make the phone run more smoothly.
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It didn't remove root, but it is currently unrootable. This means that if you should loose root somehow, you will not be able to get it back. I HIGHLY suggest you go to the Verizon G3 forum and read all the threads there. You can get all the benefits of the update without loosing the root method via the methods there.
I don't know how many times this has been said, but apparently there are still a ton of dumb people out there.......
NEVER TAKE AN OTA UPDATE IF YOU LIKE BEING ROOTED OR IF YOU EXPECT TO RETAIN THE ABILITY TO BUMP
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It didn't remove root, but it is currently unrootable. This means that if you should loose root somehow, you will not be able to get it back. I HIGHLY suggest you go to the Verizon G3 forum and read all the threads there. You can get all the benefits of the update without loosing the root method via the methods there.
I don't know how many times this has been said, but apparently there are still a ton of dumb people out there.......
NEVER TAKE AN OTA UPDATE IF YOU LIKE BEING ROOTED OR IF YOU EXPECT TO RETAIN THE ABILITY TO BUMP
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Well luckily i still had root before the update.