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[Q] Is it Defy or all android that suck at playing media?

I've been trying for days to get the defy to work i want.
I listen to audiobooks, music and podcasts, and I need to be able to control it from the headset
I tried default player, google listen, winamp, doggcatcher. And cant get the thing to work right!!
Music+ doesn't even register the button press, listen resumes and skips to next track, even if you're playing another audio in the background. Winamp on its own is fine but does not download podcasts, and doggcatcher has conflicts with winamp on the headset thing.
Has anyone find a good solution for this? it seems just the way android is built, and the lack of a good unified media player (with or integrated with podcast manager).
Such a disappointment... I was so looking for having an android phone! If I can't find a solution, it seems its not for someone like me untill they integrate things a little more tightly.

Well, it's not the Defy. And while I don't think that Android sucks at playing media I do agree with some of your points. I also listen to audio books and podcast. For the moment I'm using AudioBook Player 2 for audiobooks. It's not prefect by a long shot but it does the job. As for podcast I haven't found anything useful yet. The defaut player is suppose to play podcast but there is no way to skip through. If I have to stop listening to the podcast there is no way of getting back to were I left off. And while the device obviously play videos, and does so quite well, I haven't found any type of video player interface. The only way I can start a video is by going into the gallery and taping on the file I want to play. That dosen't seem right to me.
So yeah, I feel your frustration.

JamesDax said:
Well, it's not the Defy. And while I don't think that Android sucks at playing media I do agree with some of your points.
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Yes, sorry. I did not meant to bash, its just that I soo wanted to love it... and I don't, and if there is no good solution I think android is not for my for now. I don't know. It has so many great things!
Thanks for your suggestions I'll look into it.

On another subject : When I listen to music, I can't do anything else (switching to landscape mode e.g.), otherwise it's really slow.
Is anybody else having that bug ? Some guy here mentioned it. But he then said he fixed it without having it deodexed. How do you fix this ?

Meridian is a media player that does most of what you want, with the possible exceptin of podcasting (don´t use it, don´t know).
It remembers where you last listened to a track, and if you switch to video (which has a library of it´s own) it still remembers where in the audio track you were when you go back to that. So actually better than WMP there... ;-)
Only thing that grinds my gears with this is an annoying bug that starts a random track when I press the button on any wired headset. If I hang up a call, or if I want to pause and then start playing in Spotify or radio, Meridian starts playing a tune in the background. I thought it was a bug I was having with my Pulse, but it´s there with the Defy as well.
A BT headset has none of these issues though.

Don't worry google is working on a multimedia improvement......soooonnnn soon, also has anyone tried poweramp

Music and the best way to handle it.

Greetings. Im hoping someone might be able to help me with a very annoying problem im having.
I have somewhere around 2000 music tracks, all of which are uploaded to Google Music. Ive had GMusic since they first announced the beta and i love the fact that my entire library is everywhere I go. I also love that i can download the tracks directly on my phone, from my phone.
However using the app to play music is horrible. In the past i used poweramp, which is a wonderful player. My main problem with Google Music is it audibly cuts the power from the headphone jack in between tracks, so when i have it hooked up to my car stereo i hear a pop when the track changes... which annoys me to utter hell. On top of that it behaves weirdly some times, for example i had it set to shuffle all the other day, and it would stop on every song, and i would have to hit play manually to go to the next song.
What i would like to do is go back to using PowerAmp, but be able to manage my music as easily as i do with GMusic. Problem is that, PowerAmp doesnt see the music i download from the GMusic app and the one time it did, all the meta-data wasnt there. So all poweramp said was "Unknown track 1".
The other side of the problem is managing it on my computer. Since i bought music from Itunes and Google Music, keeping everything organized has become a nightmare(i have a number of compilations, and when you download the music from google music, it organizes it by artist not by the album). Which is why i dont want to have to manually move files to my phone. Ive tried WinAmp and Double Twist, and both have their annoyances. I was wondering what other people do, maybe someone can make my life easier.

subsonic, streams from your PC, no need to upload it to the cloud and it the UI is not bad either. it can also cache your streams for offline play

[Q] Do you have problems with Google Music/other Music apps?

There are several threads now detailing a problem with playing music, mainly reported when using the Google Music app. To be more specific here are some examples:
When playing music and then multitasking, the phone crashes and requires a battery pull and reboot.
Another is when playing music and then turning the screen off, the music is jerky and stutters.
People have reported this happening with apps other than Google Music, so it would appear that this isn't a problem with the Music app, but either the phone or ICS.
I wanted to start a poll to gauge how many people have this problem and establish whether it's everyone or not.
Here are some links to what I'm referring to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381413
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380773
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1379600
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22669

Your poll is a bit flawed. My experience so far is that these crashes are a bit more random than being attributed to any specific apps right now. I've experienced the crash, but long story short, I am not convinced it was related to the exact app that I was using at the time.

Well just because you have experienced an unrelated crash it doesn't mean my poll is flawed, just that you have a separate issue
People have spoken of this happening repeatedly when trying to use Music and multitask so I think it is definitely an issue of it's own. Usually it is said that the sound/screen goes corrupt and then requires a battery pull. Are you not referring to a random reboot or something?

i have a couple of problems with PowerAmp, no problems with google music though.
1. PowerAmp can't see playlists that were created in google music
2. PowerAmp stutters when the screen goes to sleep. (does the clock speed lower when the screen goes off?)
i've read that increasing the buffer size in poweramp options fixes no. 2. I havent tried it due to no.1.
i'm just using google music at the moment.

WinAmp i found would often have slight cracks in the music (i.e. stop and start again quickly, almost like it was being disturbed/cpu high).
doubletwist is fine though, as is Music player

This is such a huge problem I can't believe more people haven't responded :S

I've had Google Music, Rhapsody, and Pandora all crash at one time or another.

str355 said:
i have a couple of problems with PowerAmp, no problems with google music though.
1. PowerAmp can't see playlists that were created in google music
2. PowerAmp stutters when the screen goes to sleep. (does the clock speed lower when the screen goes off?)
i've read that increasing the buffer size in poweramp options fixes no. 2. I havent tried it due to no.1.
i'm just using google music at the moment.
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increasing the buffer size in power amp fixes no.2
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problem number 2 here for me. songs with high bit rates tends to trigger the stutter problem after the phone goes to sleep. tried on google music and playerpro

Google Music 4.0.1 (ICS stock) often crashes within a minute after I reboot the phone - without me actually using it.
Obviously it's trying to do something in the background on start-up and fails. Miserably.
Did not crash while I was using it so far, but I didn't run it for any lengths of time either. No problems with other apps crashing, just Music.

rayvioli said:
problem number 2 here for me. songs with high bit rates tends to trigger the stutter problem after the phone goes to sleep. tried on google music and playerpro
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Yes I notice it too, it's very annoying especially since I payed so much for this phone and a good set of headphones just for my high bit-rate music to constantly stutter; hopefully google fixes this. I seem to only notice this on the stock music player, but I prefer to use it over others due to its integration with the lockscreen and notification pulldown bar, especially considering the nice visuals it now has.

my 2 cents:
i can recreate the crash consistently by doing the following:
1. reboot the phone and connect a pair of headphones
2. stream a song (i.e., a song that's not already saved to the phone) using google music
3. use the home button to leave the google music app and return to the homescreen
4. while the song is playing, try to increase or decrease the volume of the music with the volume buttons and then almost immediately the phone reboots automatically.
i haven't been able to recreate the issue once with the headphones disconnected. also, the issue doesn't seem to occur if you connect the headphones after you start playing the music. i need to test that theory some more though.

I noticed this right away when I got my phone (launch day)
Since I constantly stream music from google music, I noticed pops and weird noises all the time. Very weird and SUPER annoying

The stock music app is not able to find my music at all. I use PowerAMP now and that works fine.

Music also crashes when not actively in use at all. When I open a lot of apps, i.e. multi-task a lot, Music often just force closes after a while.

I'm using PowerAmp now to listen to music stored in either .flac or the highest quality .mp3 files lame could produce. Some are 320kbps cbr others are vbr. In PowerAmp I set the process to the highest priority possible but left the buffer on auto.
I have never had any reboots or studering when locking the screen and I've been listening to music for over 3 hours now while doing some home work. Just to test it I put on one of my flac files and quickly locked and unlocked the screen. The phone took it like and champ with no studers at all.

No problems with music apps crashing, or needing to pull the battery. The only issue I have is with music or podcasts played through the native music player or Google Listen stopping at random intervals. Happens using wired speaker/headphones or bluetooth audio.
Frustrating, but not a dealbreaker yet.

I called Verizon for no other reason other than trying to create a record of the issue... They claimed to have not heard of this... Is there any way to let Samsung know directly? I know there is a google code ticket open, but Google hasn't "owned" the issue yet... I'd also say if you have the issue to let VZW know so they can get things in motion on their side as well.

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I called Verizon for no other reason other than trying to create a record of the issue... They claimed to have not heard of this... Is there any way to let Samsung know directly? I know there is a google code ticket open, but Google hasn't "owned" the issue yet... I'd also say if you have the issue to let VZW know so they can get things in motion on their side as well.
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It seems they don't give a ****, unfortunately. Just have to live with it..

WinAMP - today while playing an album with the screen off paused (twice). I had to turn on the display, and hit the play button to continue. There was a bit of a lag (I got the FC screen, but when i hit wait the app returned a few seconds later)

[Q] Issues with skipping/pausing/starting .m4a

So I've been using Pocket Casts as a podcast player for a while now, and I've never had any issues until switching to the LG G3 (T-Mobile variant).
When I try to play any podcast with .m4a, the podcast will play normally, but the moment I try to use any seeking commands (forward, rewind, pause) the seeker will jump around.
For example, if I pause at 14:53, and then try to restart again, it could randomly jump to 1:10. The same thing happens when I try to forward or rewind.
Curiously, I've noticed that with rewinding and forwarding, they seem to prefer certain time spots. Like if I spam the rewind button, it will constantly go to a certain time period.
If you want to test this yourself, you can try downloading "The Rooster Teeth Podcast" or "The Patch Podcast" on any podcast player, as I know those two use the .m4a format.
To make sure it wasn't the player, I tried downloading podcast addict, which gave the same issue. I also downloaded an earlier episode of the Rooster Teeth Podcast which was an mp3 file, and it played with no issues.
Has anybody else encountered this issue, and does anybody have a fix?

I'd like to bump this seeing as I'm not the only one with this issue. I too tried using other podcast players to play the RT Podcast/Patch, all of them would skip ahead several minutes. They would also refuse to seek past the 45 minute mark or something around there.

bartcrusades said:
I'd like to bump this seeing as I'm not the only one with this issue. I too tried using other podcast players to play the RT Podcast/Patch, all of them would skip ahead several minutes. They would also refuse to seek past the 45 minute mark or something around there.
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Got the same problem with podcast addict. The developer wrote me, that the app is using the internal player. After testing the internal player with m4a files, i can confirm that the issue persist.
I also wrote the LG support about this issue and the answer was: LG does not official support m4a! WTF?
Alternative 1: Use 3. party player. But I didn't find a good one. Only VLC was playing the file but stops audio files if the screen is off.
Alternative 2: Use mp3 feed instead of m4a.

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Got the same problem with podcast addict. The developer wrote me, that the app is using the internal player. After testing the internal player with m4a files, i can confirm that the issue persist.
I also wrote the LG support about this issue and the answer was: LG does not official support m4a! WTF?
Alternative 1: Use 3. party player. But I didn't find a good one. Only VLC was playing the file but stops audio files if the screen is off.
Alternative 2: Use mp3 feed instead of m4a.
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Pretty bummed out about this.

Just thought I'd poke my head in and let you know you aren't the only one. Iv'e got the same problem too on Beyond Pod, and so do others with the G3.
http://www.beyondpod.com/forum/show...hes-When-Using-Episode-Scan-Bar-Verizon-LG-G3

[Q] Issue with default music player timing

I noticed that while using the default player for music the time indexing in the song gets screwed up if I lock my phone and then go back in. It appears to lose count of where I am in the song and when I go back to look at it is is always behind where it actually is. It will end with anywhere from 20 to 50 seconds remaining in the song according to it (for example I start a song, lock the screen and wait a minute, then go back and it says the song has only been playing for 20 seconds), it then proceeds to skip that remaining time and go to the next song so it doesn't effect the playback of music at all but is more of a nuisance. I have checked with other music apps (like Google Play Music) and this problem does not occur and am posting this because I have had trouble finding people with the same issue, any help would be greatly appreciated. (In regards to software, it is all stock)

I have experienced this too, even on a stock system. Sorry to say, but you may be stuck waiting for HTC to fix that bug.

Sorry to say, but it is quite foolish to buy hima M9 and then to use so called stock player..
Get Neutron Player NOW! It is the only player what may fully utilize the audio hardware implemented in hTc hima my9 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mpeval
The player settings are HERE https://www.dropbox.com/s/ds9qe8pwe1scaks/Neutron.zip?dl=1