Maybe this is all in my head so I need a confirmation. Do Sense ROMs have better signal strength/data speeds? It doesn't make sense to me but I just seem to have much better reception and speeds when using a Sense based ROM, including EVO framework ones as opposed to CM and Ruby. Is there ay reason for this or am I just imagining it?
I've often wondered the same thing.
I think, however, that actual reception is tied to the PRL, the radio, the PRI, and some more uber-technical stuff - in other words, things well under the hood that aren't impacted/changed when a ROM is flashed.
That said, I suspect ROMs play differently with those things depending on how they are built, hence what appears (or may actually be) better signal.
It all comes down to the RIL and radio. A rom won't mess with those. They should be identical. Check the signal dBm's to compare roms.
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I figured it would be a radio thing but it always seemed it was changing from ROM to ROM. That being said, I switched from a Sense ROM to an AOSP one and the signal has not changed at all so thanks guys for answering the question. I knew it had to be in my head hehe
solarpolitiks said:
I figured it would be a radio thing but it always seemed it was changing from ROM to ROM. That being said, I switched from a Sense ROM to an AOSP one and the signal has not changed at all so thanks guys for answering the question. I knew it had to be in my head hehe
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One thing you DO have control over is the firmware of the radio. There are currently 3 versions of radio firmware that you can flash. This has nothing to do with the ROM. Different people have different results in terms of link stability and speed depending on them. Look for the Radio thread to find the downloads and information.
I've actually had this issue on the EVO and can confirm after testing that the signal strength is less with an AOSP ROM (every one I've tried actually). Drives me crazy because I really want to use one.
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I've actually had this issue on the EVO and can confirm after testing that the signal strength is less with an AOSP ROM (every one I've tried actually). Drives me crazy because I really want to use one.
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How exactly did you test this? There are many variables that could influence signal.
I've always kept up to date with my phones. Newest isn't always best. I've been having some battery issues that seem to be haunting me across various roms. I normally SuperWipe between different rom builds and I always run with the same basic apps. I'm starting to think that my battery killer may be elsewhere... perhaps within the Radios.
I'm currently using the 4.1.1 FG02/FF02 combo (latest). I've seen a few places that suggest these eat the battery and suggest going back a notch to the 4.0.4 FC05/FC04 radios.
I've also heard of some weird combos. So what you running?
Hi all,
I am a LG G2x owner that foolishly bought the phone knowing it was a dual core phone at a cheap price. After exploring forums, I later found out LG never updates the device and there are coding problems so we will never get fully working ics/jb on it. Thankfully, there were no glaring hardware flaws.
Is there any software/hardware flaws that I need to know about before I buy one off of ebay? I know a bit about the wifi hardware issue. How many people are affected by it? I just don't want to be caught in a dead end phone with constant problems.
On another note how is the battery life?
Thanks guys.
No s-off....
I've had no wifi issues. Most phones have the JB update. I wouldn't hold your breath for anymore though. ROM development is pretty good. AOKP/AOSP have ironed out most bugs so you have lots of options there.
Battery life is on par for phones with similar screen size etc. It should easily get you through the day with "normal" use.
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No s-off....
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peedub said:
I've had no wifi issues. Most phones have the JB update. I wouldn't hold your breath for anymore though. ROM development is pretty good. AOKP/AOSP have ironed out most bugs so you have lots of options there.
Battery life is on par for phones with similar screen size etc. It should easily get you through the day with "normal" use.
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Do most people or minority have the WiFi issue? Is there any road blocks that would stop development? (Like driver stuff not hardware) for example the radio on g2x has weird coding or something that stops call audio to work in cm development.
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Our phones are still semi-locked. We couldn't install SENSE roms without the firmware update from HTC, which was rolled out slowly and is limited to very specific regions. The majority of unbranded handsets and some branded have the latest firmware so are good to go.
AOSP/AOKP roms don't have this limitation, so we've been able to install them all along.
HTC releases their kernel source eventually, so I think we're OK on that front. We are still waiting on the JB kernel, however.
I think the wifi issue was more of a problem when people were installing the leaked JB firmware. It wasn't a final product and had a few issues, wifi being one of them. Now that the official firmware has been released, I haven't seen this issue so much.
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Our phones are still semi-locked. We couldn't install SENSE roms without the firmware update from HTC, which was rolled out slowly and is limited to very specific regions. The majority of unbranded handsets and some branded have the latest firmware so are good to go.
AOSP/AOKP roms don't have this limitation, so we've been able to install them all along.
HTC releases their kernel source eventually, so I think we're OK on that front. We are still waiting on the JB kernel, however.
I think the wifi issue was more of a problem when people were installing the leaked JB firmware. It wasn't a final product and had a few issues, wifi being one of them. Now that the official firmware has been released, I haven't seen this issue so much.
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OK good I like clean android anyway. Would unbranded international phones get the updates first?
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The Taiwan phones got the official update first (it turned out to have issues).
A few weeks later the Asia WWE (world wide english) versions got a newer update that doesn't seem to have any issues followed by International WWE version.
Now India, Philippines, Egypt, Romania, Malaysia, Singapore, and Hong Kong unbranded phones have updates.
The ones that are still waiting are carrier branded like H3G, Orange, Vodafone etc.
(There are some brilliant roms based off the official sense roms with a few tweaks here and there)
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The Taiwan phones got the official update first (it turned out to have issues).
A few weeks later the Asia WWE (world wide english) versions got a newer update that doesn't seem to have any issues followed by International WWE version.
Now India, Philippines, Egypt, Romania, Malaysia, Singapore, and Hong Kong unbranded phones have updates.
The ones that are still waiting are carrier branded like H3G, Orange, Vodafone etc.
(There are some brilliant roms based off the official sense roms with a few tweaks here and there)
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Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to try all the diff options for ROMs before settling . But first I gotta win the eBay auction I refuse to settle for the dual core version
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Haha. Good luck man!
The stock ones I've tried, and think are great, are Maximus and ARHD for JB. Viper ROM is my fav, but no JB just yet.
Here is a great list of the available roms, listed as sense, or non-sense (AOKP/AOSP/MIUI) roms
Thanks just an hour left
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Just looked up what s-off meant.. I'm still a little confused. What types of ROMs are s-off and what are s-on? I didn't face these on the lg threads
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S-On means that we can't flash boot.img files from recovery. We have to do it from fastboot. Generally, all except a special few are s-on.
We also don't have full access to parts of the phone like radio or hboot.
The issue with the Sense JB roms is that they were dependant on a new hboot, which had to be rolled out officially. This doesn't affect AOSP roms, it was only to do with a restriction HTC had on their Sense modifications.
As long as the phone you're buying isn't carrier branded, you will be able to flash just about everything. (you may need to update it first)
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S-On means that we can't flash boot.img files from recovery. We have to do it from fastboot. Generally, all except a special few are s-on.
We also don't have full access to parts of the phone like radio or hboot.
The issue with the Sense JB roms is that they were dependant on a new hboot, which had to be rolled out officially. This doesn't affect AOSP roms, it was only to do with a restriction HTC had on their Sense modifications.
As long as the phone you're buying isn't carrier branded, you will be able to flash just about everything. (you may need to update it first)
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Ah ok I think I get it. So basically custom Roms have to come from vanilla android not based off of sense Roms? And the one I'm getting is 32GB unlocked international one x with tegra 3
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Custom roms that are modified from the sense roms require a certain hboot version. Hopefully the one you're getting is one that has the update rolled out.
You'll have fun with it either way, it's a great phone. There are some great roms out there.
If you want good battery life, go for sgs3 instead.
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If you want good battery life, go for sgs3 instead.
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Eh I don't wanna follow mainstream usa. I don't really like the s3 anyway. And as for battery life is it possible to last the day with moderate usage?
Edit.:too late now I'm officially a hox Owner! Just awaiting to go pick it up. What should I run/do with it now that I have it
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PaKii94 said:
Eh I don't wanna follow mainstream usa. I don't really like the s3 anyway. And as for battery life is it possible to last the day with moderate usage?
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You live in the USA and want to buy the international One X? Fair enough...
It can go through the day quite easily with moderate usage, but if you use it more than 4hours a day it might be difficult.
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You live in the USA and want to buy the international One X? Fair enough...
It can go through the day quite easily with moderate usage, but if you use it more than 4hours a day it might be difficult.
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Lol I wanted T 3 version and one x+is too expensive . I don't like the display on s3 and how hyped it was. I would have gotten optimusg but not much DEV support. The nexus 4 would have worked but overpriced on eBay. I'm on T-Mobile and don't use data so 4g doesn't bother Me. If I was to get data. It would be in Chicago where T-Mobile has refarmed the 1900 towers for 4g.
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I don't have any issues with battery running out. (I can get 1.5 days out of one charge) I don't do anything special like underclocking... Actually, I do use advanced power mod to reduce automatic brightness levels.
I think you'll only run into issues if you love playing games, or don't have a job and use your phone aaaaalll day.
Guys, i am thinking on getting this phone to replace my nexus 5 but i can see there are not lots of options for custom kernels.
Do we have the source code for the kernel and drivers? I ask this because i had a galaxy s3 once and we never got access to the samsung source codes, and because of that we never got a good hardware acceleration and stuff.
I guess my real question is, do we have good kernels and custom roms for this phone? or are we limited because of lacking source code?
Thanks
You have two kernels at the moment.
Rins for Kitkat and ChuppaChops for Lollipop.
For AOSP roms there is no kernel.
And yes, there is good roms available.
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You have two kernels at the moment.
Rins for Kitkat and ChuppaChops for Lollipop.
For AOSP roms there is no kernel.
And yes, there is good roms available.
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Do you know about kernel sources? Only two kernels is way less than we have for the Nexus 5 for instance.
Looks like there may be some kind of limitation there...
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Do you know about kernel sources? Only two kernels is way less than we have for the Nexus 5 for instance.
Looks like there may be some kind of limitation there...
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You can find sources here: https://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensourceList?types=ALL&search=d855
You can not compare Nexus 5 with G3. Nexus is one year here while G3 was completely locked until a month ago.
Ah! That is why then!
Do you think its safe to say that now the devs have no limitations for the G3?
I would say yes.
Right now is a pause because we have Lollipop available and devs are moving to Lollipop so it will take some time to get newest ROMs for it.
But there is already great ROMs.
luizffgarcia said:
Guys, i am thinking on getting this phone to replace my nexus 5 but i can see there are not lots of options for custom kernels.
Do we have the source code for the kernel and drivers? I ask this because i had a galaxy s3 once and we never got access to the samsung source codes, and because of that we never got a good hardware acceleration and stuff.
I guess my real question is, do we have good kernels and custom roms for this phone? or are we limited because of lacking source code?
Thanks
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You will start to see more custom kernels as the devs move more towards Lollipop. We are in an odd transitional phase of shifting focus from KitKat to Lollipop, so a lot of work is being done to get this new OS running well. We should see more custom kernels as development continues, but you may not notice as many KitKat kernels as you wanted to see. Hopefully you stick with the G3 and we're glad to have you here in our community!
I wondered if someone could break down the difference between the different custom ROMs available at the moment? e.g. Candy5, AndroidNOW, Fusion, Cloudy, Slim, etc
Also I'm used to owning phones with official GPe variants, I'm wondering if any of the phones that haven't had official GPe's have ever created custom original GPe's? i.e. OEM framework integrated with AOSP?
Every one is different because developers add personal touch and files and some of them have different features and options.
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Every one is different because developers add personal touch and files and some of them have different features and options.
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But I'm specifically talking about GPe.
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But I'm specifically talking about GPe.
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No you are not.
First post, first sentence. You are asking about Candy5, SlimKat, Cloudy, Fusion. How is that specifically GPe?
And yes, there is AOSP roms for G3. Of course, not official GP.
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No you are not.
First post, first sentence. You are asking about Candy5, SlimKat, Cloudy, Fusion. How is that specifically GPe?
And yes, there is AOSP roms for G3. Of course, not official GP.
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Sorry, I assumed you were talking about the GPe. Obviously all of the ROMs have their personal flavours, I was wondering what they were. SlimKat has been around for a while, but what makes Candy5, Cloudy and Fusion special? Do they feature original code or are they simply cherry pick Frankensteins?
Also as for AOSP, there's very little point outside of CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android. But even then, as it'd be twice as nice if we didn't have to give up on the camera, hence the GPe desire.