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Rooting?

Hello guys
Im new to Samsung, bought my phone a month ago and love it to be honest. The problem is dont know most of things on android and samsung. been looking at the forum hours and hours and learnt most of it from you.
I want to know if rooting is any good? why would you root your device or why wouldnt you? advantages and disadvantages?
Is it easy to do it? (as Im new dont wanna brick my phone) I have seen that if you root your phone your warranty will be avoid. If you unroot will it be still avoided?
Hope my questions are clear.

Hi and welxome to xda. Rooting basically gives you full rights over your phone and breaks most barriers put in place. Hands down the best thing about rooting your phone is that it gives you the ability to install a custom rom which improves on the current rom (the systen you are interacting with)
It is really easy to root a note2, i suggest you read the stickys-they have a guide for it.
Lastly the only downside is that you can brick ur phone if anything is DONE without reading the instructions. Or flashing something that is not in a N7100 forum.
And it voids warantee, but there is a workaround (traingleaway, search it )
Hope i answered your question
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hamzahqaisar1995 said:
Hi and welxome to xda. Rooting basically gives you full rights over your phone and breaks most barriers put in place. Hands down the best thing about rooting your phone is that it gives you the ability to install a custom rom which improves on the current rom (the systen you are interacting with)
It is really easy to root a note2, i suggest you read the stickys-they have a guide for it.
Lastly the only downside is that you can brick ur phone if anything is DONE without reading the instructions. Or flashing something that is not in a N7100 forum.
And it voids warantee, but there is a workaround (traingleaway, search it )
Hope i answered your question
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Thanks for you response mate. Whats the quickest and easiest and safest root ? Like iphone jailbreaks are so easy all you need to do is plug your phone in and press the jailbreak button and after 2 3 minutes all done. Is there any program or software like that?

I suggest you before rooting do a bit of research on why you need to root rather than root it "because you can" as you read rooting has it drawbacks specially for noobs.
If you can live without some specific feature only available through rooting, don't root avoid a headache.
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PiskopatYazar said:
Thanks for you response mate. Whats the quickest and easiest and safest root ? Like iphone jailbreaks are so easy all you need to do is plug your phone in and press the jailbreak button and after 2 3 minutes all done. Is there any program or software like that?
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CF auto root
it will take 10 sec

True, bought Note II yesterday and rooted today in like 2 minutes!

yahyoh said:
CF auto root
it will take 10 sec
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thanks
dalanik said:
True, bought Note II yesterday and rooted today in like 2 minutes!
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what files do I need? where did you download them?

Where can you find instructions to unroot a note 2 which has been rooted using CF-auto-root.
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HypoDest said:
Where can you find instructions to unroot a note 2 which has been rooted using CF-auto-root.
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why do you want to unroot?

PiskopatYazar said:
why do you want to unroot?
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Haven't rooted yet. Found many instructions for the easy cf-auto-root but not much on unrooting, which may be needed for OTA updates or warranty checks.
Anyways you may wanna look into rooting after finding some uses for it. Otherwise it may be an unnecessary risk. There is a lot of customisation and functionality available using the stock rom and market apps alone.
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you can unroot (rooted with cf autoroot) by supeSU (you will get it by rooting)setting menu
OR
by simply flashing stock ROM with odin will unroot device
(In both case you should have to reset counter while you are having root, to claim warranty)
Read post#2 &3 of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696

dr.ketan said:
you can unroot (rooted with cf autoroot) by supeSU (you will get it by rooting)setting menu
OR
by simply flashing stock ROM with odin will unroot device
(In both case you should have to reset counter while you are having root, to claim warranty)
Read post#2 &3 of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696
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Does unrooting using superSU require restoring factory settings or anything? Or does it do it cleanly?
I want to be able to update through OTA.
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factory reset won't need, cosmetically you won't see any rooting sign.
But regarding OTA, really its weired
you never can say surely, i have seen who have unrooted + factory reset, even they fails to install update (though even getting update)
so be prepare to flash using odin, if you don't get OTA.

You need to factory flash via Odin and then use triangle away to reset the flash counter that should allow you to update OTA.
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Odin -Failed- during PDA

Guys I sold my old HTC One X for a used Galaxy s3 so I'm very happy with how it's been so far and I'm not regretting it at all.
It's firmware is 4.0.4 and I wanted to root my phone.
Galaxy model I'm using is the i747
I followed this guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJss1...b3AMT1POhpYeXG
I did tried the step by step guide and video but I always got stuck and problems at the PDA section. It says FAIL.
I did tried searching for a fix but it seems even though I'm not the first neither the last with this problem I had no idea how to fix it.
I also tried the MACosx version with Heimdall and exactly the same, it fails during the PDA part.
What is my solution?
Thank you so much!

That link doesn't appear to be working. It could a bad file download. Maybe try downloading the root file(s) again. If you're doing this from Windows, there are several root methods to choose from in the general section I believe

xBeerdroiDx said:
That link doesn't appear to be working. It could a bad file download. Maybe try downloading the root file(s) again. If you're doing this from Windows, there are several root methods to choose from in the general section I believe
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Alright that link got down but here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJss1_dZZeY&list=PLIB9nMQ3IBuXuTz3PQJb3AMT1POhpYeXG

Harkadenn said:
Alright that link got down but here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJss1_dZZeY&list=PLIB9nMQ3IBuXuTz3PQJb3AMT1POhpYeXG
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That's the rooting process for the international version of the GS3...
You want to root the i747 unless you have the international version i9300... In that case you are in the wrong forum.
Edit...
If you do have the i747 than all the steps and instructions and files you need for rooting is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35327104
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KorGuy123 said:
That's the rooting process for the international version of the GS3...
You want to root the i747 unless you have the international version i9300... In that case you are in the wrong forum.
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If you do have the i747 than all the steps and instructions and files you need for rooting is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35327104
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Thank you, the one I'm using is the i747.
I also heard there's a newer rooting update.

Things may fail if you do not use the original cable that came with the phone.

Before I start rooting it... what back programs you guys recommend me?
I tried titanium but titanium requieres rooting and my phone is not yet rooted.
Back up of all phone.

Harkadenn said:
Before I start rooting it... what back programs you guys recommend me?
I tried titanium but titanium requieres rooting and my phone is not yet rooted.
Back up of all phone.
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Once you root you'll install recovery and backup everything in recovery.
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Perfect!
Thank you very much, have a nice evening.

Hello, regarding my root. :(

So I have been rooted for a couple months now with no problems at all, I do have the t-mobile note 2 which is model # SGH-T889. And I opened up Superuser and there is an unroot button which was not check but soon became checked I was unaware at the time you can even unroot a phone via a program. Is there a way to reverse this problem, all of my rooted apps no longer allow me to open them up, But for say wallpappers and some other apps I was able to keep them
www(dot)/gyazo(dotcom)/74c27571285f3d19f866b09be020013a
That is what my Titanium backup says above.
I also tried installed the newere SuperSU or whatever that didn't work either.
And even still "Software update" "Your device has been modified.Software updates are not available" Hit OK, I only just found out today there is a program called "Voodoo OTA RootKeeper" Only had I known about this program yesterday none of this would have happened, in the "Voodoo OTA RootKeeper"there should be check marks allow me to uncheck/recheck and there is no huge button for backup/unroot/root. that tells me I'm not rooted I guess.
A buddy of mine actually helped me root via teamviewer And I do not have the proper kit/know how to do it for my model #. If someone can help me in another way besides just rerooting the original way that would help. But if not if you have a known good rootkit for my situation.
I am sorry if this is not in the right section under my phone. I wanted to put it in the dev area but read that they will delete it if you put it there, even though It would seem that is the proper area since this is a rooting situation.
If you guys need any more information about my issue please ask

Get odin and flash the rooted version of your phone let's say the mb4 or idk which one is exactly. But that should work with odin. If im wrong someone correct me....
Sent From Land Of Ooo. Using a Jedi Mastered Note 2.
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Galaxysm said:
Get odin and flash the rooted version of your phone let's say the mb4 or idk which one is exactly. But that should work with odin. If im wrong someone correct me....
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Well I would need someone to link me to the proper one for SGH-T889 for my note 2 T-mobile. And or if someone has a quick fix.

lethalxda said:
Well I would need someone to link me to the proper one for SGH-T889 for my note 2 T-mobile. And or if someone has a quick fix.
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Do what Galaxysm said its in the form t mobile note 2 in the Android development (pro tip) its a stickied post ( very top )
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deeznutz1977 said:
Do what Galaxysm said its in the form t mobile note 2 in the Androiddevelopment (pro tip) its a stickied post ( very top )
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1955423
? if that is what you mean, I have no idea what any of this is, or where to begin I'm seeing the model # of my phone with SDFVCJ at the end of it. I don't want to brick my phone I just want to figure out how to get my root back how it was a couple days ago.
Is there a method to doing so? I do remember via teamviewer he used a rootkit of some kind would that work even in my current case? I still have superuser on my phone along with kies.

All you have to do is read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975560
[HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter - Stock Injected [TMO/MCT/GLW/VTR]..... down load odin to pc. Download the 4.1.2 tmobile rom. Extract the file. Open odin. Click on pda.. select the downloaded file
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deeznutz1977 said:
All toy have to do is read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975560
[HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter - Stock Injected [TMO/MCT/GLW/VTR]..... down load odin to pc. Download the 4.1.2 tmobile rom. Extract the file. Open odin. Click on pda.. select the downloaded file
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Are you sure it is rom I need to DL, Don't I need to be rooted first to get the rom on there? My problem is my phone is half rooted, titanium backup says clear busybox and one other app, but every single other app says I need to be rooted, Along with that being weird when I try to do a software update. It tells me that I have a modded device so I cannot do it. In the mean while before I reroot again I would like to get the most recent update.

lethalxda said:
Are you sure it is rom I need to DL, Don't I need to be rooted first to get the rom on there? My problem is my phone is half rooted, titanium backup says clear busybox and one other app, but every single other app says I need to be rooted, Along with that being weird when I try to do a software update. It tells me that I have a modded device so I cannot do it. In the mean while before I reroot again I would like to get the most recent update.
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Dude , chill out this isn't that hard... Ok. Can you still get into recovery power volume up and menu
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lethalxda said:
Are you sure it is rom I need to DL, Don't I need to be rooted first to get the rom on there? My problem is my phone is half rooted, titanium backup says clear busybox and one other app, but every single other app says I need to be rooted, Along with that being weird when I try to do a software update. It tells me that I have a modded device so I cannot do it. In the mean while before I reroot again I would like to get the most recent update.
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Just get the Note 2 toolkit on your PC or laptop. Follow the instructions to root.
CARBON NIGHTLIES. | KROZ BROWN Theme | Crack Flasher

RonnieRuff said:
Just get the Note 2 toolkit on your PC or laptop. Follow the instructions to root.
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Ronnie the toolbox is so many unnecessary steps. With the way I told dude is simple you download one thing btw: it seems like you and Mr. Skip got a thing going on cuts your on love with his tool box lol. ..
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deeznutz1977 said:
Ronnie the toolbox is so many unnecessary steps. With the way I told dude is simple you download one thing btw: it seems like you and Mr. Skip got a thing going on cuts your on love with his tool box lol. ..
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I like the box.... Its all good.. For newbies it is pretty foolproof.
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deeznutz1977 said:
Dude , chill out this isn't that hard... Ok. Can you still get into recovery power volume up and menu
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Again you are not to clear, and not answering my main question Am I still rooted???????? I mean none of my apps work for root, yet I cannot do a software update. I REALLY want the software update. I don't want to lose my many months of my rooted phone. I don't want to have a stock phone I'd like to keep everything that I have adjusted on my phone.

lethalxda said:
Again you are not to clear, and not answering my main question Am I still rooted???????? I mean none of my apps work for root, yet I cannot do a software update. I REALLY want the software update. I don't want to lose my many months of my rooted phone. I don't want to have a stock phone I'd like to keep everything that I have adjusted on my phone.
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No you're not rooted. Reroot your phone again with either method already told to you. Or what recovery do you have?
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kintwofan said:
No you're not rooted. Reroot your phone again with either method already told to you. Or what recovery do you have?
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How can I tell which recovery I have? I do have a root kit on my computer which was used back then, Would it say brick my phone If I uninstall Superuser right now? would that allow me to get my "software update" back?
http://gyazo(DOTCOM)/4af681a85cab54b4767e1684cd5b68f9
http://gyazo(DOTCOM)/adc9712e1b212db730981065f4c78a9b
both of the links about just remove the "(DOTCOM)" that is the kit I used for my first root.

lethalxda said:
How can I tell which recovery I have? I do have a root kit on my computer which was used back then, Would it say brick my phone If I uninstall Superuser right now? would that allow me to get my "software update" back?
http://gyazo(DOTCOM)/4af681a85cab54b4767e1684cd5b68f9
http://gyazo(DOTCOM)/adc9712e1b212db730981065f4c78a9b
both of the links about just remove the "(DOTCOM)" that is the kit I used for my first root.
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Of you didn't change it in sure it's stock, but just boot into it to check. Quick question, you're wanting the update. What version are you on right now?
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kintwofan said:
Of you didn't change it in sure it's stock, but just boot into it to check. Quick question, you're wanting the update. What version are you on right now?
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I don't know what you mean in the first part, I'm on 4.1.1 tmobile T889
kernal version 3.0.31

lethalxda said:
I don't know what you mean in the first part, I'm on 4.1.1 tmobile T889
kernal version 3.0.31
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If you didn't install a custom recovery then is probably still stock so forget my question.
Also, try this to get your root. Is the easiest way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35512626
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kintwofan said:
If you didn't install a custom recovery then is probably still stock so forget my question.
Also, try this to get your root. Is the easiest way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35512626
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMG!!!! You are my savior!!!! I now have root again, Now I can use voodoo OTA RootKeeper. You sir got a "Thanks" Button clicked
For those that can't tell this method fixed my issue from clicking on unroot in superSU.

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lethalxda said:
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMG!!!! You are my savior!!!! I now have root again, Now I can use voodoo OTA RootKeeper. You sir got a "Thanks" Button clicked
For those that can't tell this method fixed my issue from clicking on unroot in superSU.
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I believe ota root keeper doesnt work with latest update.
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Friend borrowed phone Updated 4.3 knox blocks su

How do I reboot or get a 4.3 version knox free or bypass knox moderator edit superuser lol.. friend borrowed phone uprooted and updated to 4.3 ota.
Now knox kicks super user and force closes .
I read there's a way I think to re root I think maybe by Mr Robison root 66.
All I wanna so is either be on a 4.1.2 rooted Rom or 4.3 that doesn't affect superuser What's the method ?
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Well KNOX is on your phone now and there is no way (yet) to get rid of it. Try updating su in the play store. The new version can get around it.
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Buy root Explorer from the market then go to System then apps look for knox and remove it I think there are like 3 knox files then reboot and then your knox free
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0.o said:
Well KNOX is on your phone now and there is no way (yet) to get rid of it. Try updating su in the play store. The new version can get around it.
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Good thought but I don't think it's that simple.. It's well noted that there isn't a way to safely bypass or remove it yet If your method Was the case it would be all over the forum and probably one of the first things tried the day 4.3 ota was pushed .
Its built in the bootloader . I'm not sure what damage would cause if i try removing with a root explorer app.
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carlgraser said:
Buy root Explorer from the market then go to System then apps look for knox and remove it I think there are like 3 knox files then reboot and then your knox free
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That only removes the apps the bootloader is still there.
Smack that thanks button if I helped!
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i trriped my know and i dont know how to undone this.

Mynameisbruce said:
i trriped my know and i dont know how to undone this.
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U can't undo this.
Smack that thanks button if I helped!
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Irwenzhao said:
U can't undo this.
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Buzzingga!

Possible Solutions to your Note 2 OP Sys 4.3 Rom dilema
lojak29 said:
How do I reboot or get a 4.3 version knox free or bypass knox moderator edit superuser lol.. friend borrowed phone uprooted and updated to 4.3 ota.
Now knox kicks super user and force closes .
I read there's a way I think to re root I think maybe by Mr Robison root 66.
All I wanna so is either be on a 4.1.2 rooted Rom or 4.3 that doesn't affect superuser What's the method ?
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Good morning,
I am no WIZ but it seems to me that all you would need to do is revert (flash) your NOTE 2 back to a stock, Predated to 4.1.1 OEM T-Mobile Rom.
However, since XDA is a creative lot, there is really no reason for me to presume that you still use T-Mobile as your carrier; not that it makes much difference at this point, So rather than being the horses ass as I sit here making my first post and since I am too new to be allowed to make life easy on you by merely laying down the link, go to Galaxynote2toroot under the heading of stock firmware. I think you will find your answers there. The site lists most all of the original or at least those firmwares you might use including those after 4.1 and prior to v 4.30. They have flashing tools as well...probably light-fingered from here (smiling) but in any case it seemed to be a simple method to get you where you want to go.
Sidebar: Personally, I am going to contribute to the cause supporting the old turned new GalaxyNOTE2 Toolkit v4.1.0. conjured up by mskip http://forum.xda-developers.com.php?=1957720 because I think it is and will continue to be a pretty swish tool to prevent me making the typical, wreck your Note2 rookie mistakes. And I secretly plan over time to make him a friend so he'll help me when I falter. It is a wonderment to me how complicated but pro tool accepting the little bastards be.
So, depending on your expertise in these matters, you might take a look as well, In any case I hope you get it fixed.
Best regards,
dm

[Q] Root ??

Ive got the at&t 1317 4.3 done by OTA -- searched and searched -- couldn't find the latest root method for the 4.3 MK6. Can someone link me to the most current method for rooting this version with 4.3 mk6 software?

Cf-auto-root - thread is in original dev forum
Flash in Odin
Most current version here http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/
If i317 - http://download.chainfire.eu/280/CF...uto-Root-t0lteatt-t0lteatt-samsungsghi317.zip
If i317m - http://download.chainfire.eu/279/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-t0ltecan-t0ltevl-sghi317m.zip
Otherwise, search first link for your phone.
After install, go to play store, update super su then run it. Update binary if asked using normal method. When asked if you want to disable Knox answer yes.
That's it.
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Thank you for the links -- one more question -- how about installing a recovery for flashing roms ?

Philz cwm or twrp - both can be found on the first page of the att note 2 original Dev forum. Or you can follow my sig to the i317 links.... My mk6 thread has links to the OPs of both.
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Zen Arcade said:
Cf-auto-root - thread is in original dev forum
Flash in Odin
Most current version here http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/
If i317 - http://download.chainfire.eu/280/CF...uto-Root-t0lteatt-t0lteatt-samsungsghi317.zip
If i317m - http://download.chainfire.eu/279/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-t0ltecan-t0ltevl-sghi317m.zip
Otherwise, search first link for your phone.
After install, go to play store, update super su then run it. Update binary if asked using normal method. When asked if you want to disable Knox answer yes.
That's it.
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Holy crap ! How do you do all that from your phone ?!?

dicksteele said:
Holy crap ! How do you do all that from your phone ?!?
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Not sure... Vitamins? :sly:
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Thanks for all the responses -- ive continued to read other threads and im 50/50 on wanting to root this phone seeing that its a chance it will work or not. if I get a successful root if I so decide to undo root that its a long complex process and not sure I would be able to do it.
Im only a month into my contract and seeing as to root is kinda easy but to achieve unroot is a long complex many step process and it still does not reset this KNOX counter incase for whatever reason I need to have warranty done , I am now very hesitant to root.

Ferret78 said:
Thanks for all the responses -- ive continued to read other threads and im 50/50 on wanting to root this phone seeing that its a chance it will work or not. if I get a successful root if I so decide to undo root that its a long complex process and not sure I would be able to do it.
Im only a month into my contract and seeing as to root is kinda easy but to achieve unroot is a long complex many step process and it still does not reset this KNOX counter incase for whatever reason I need to have warranty done , I am now very hesitant to root.
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I may wait a bit then...
We honestly don't know if/when our development teams will find a solution for Knox bootloader downgrade...
If my phone was only a month old...I'd keep stock....g
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