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Removal of bloatare

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usually, if you're trying to remove bloatware, i would suggest downloading and installing a different rom. since its the stock rom, you're going to have a helluva time rm'ing the programs that came with it since its all built in. if you wanted to, you could download one of the nonsense roms or wes's rom that dont have the bloatwares in them to try out

yes i also wld like to know how to do this

Since everyone else is posting like a bunch of morons I guess I will have to continue calling you all out!
THERE IS A Q & A SECTION ... POST IN THERE!

Well I have to call you out this is the q&a section everyone needs to stop being an ass.
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DroidHead said:
Since everyone else is posting like a bunch of morons I guess I will have to continue calling you all out!
THERE IS A Q & A SECTION ... POST IN THERE!
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Yeah, nice job, ****. We have mods for a reason, because they know what they're doing, unlike you. You're just going from topic to topic making a complete ass of yourself. Why?
To follow along the lines of some of your other posts:
POST FAILED.
GTFO.

Wow, that will teach me to switch to XDA. I knew there were some dickheads in this forum which made me hesitant to sign up, but really? That was quick. Thanks for "calling me out." I feel that it was an excellent use of your spare time. Now looking next to your name I don't see Forum Mod spelled anywhere. I think that means you should get the hell out of this thread if you have nothing constructive to say.
Anyway, thank you kingofyo1 for your suggestion and insight. I'm still looking into this issue.

Don't leave just cause of him, if you look through his posts, this is all he's been doing lately. Just trying to get his post count up, and this thread proves it.
We aren't all like that.

Thank you
I have no intention of leaving just yet, as pathetic morons are to be expected in forums.

Adb has an uninstall command. Have you tried this instead of rm?
I would just make sure I was in recovery and mounted before I tried. Good luck and let us know if you get it done
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mmmark111 said:
I wasn't sure if it would be appropriate to post this question here but I have seen more asinine threads posted so why not.
I come from a rooted Behold 2. With that phone I could navigate to the /system/app and delete and replace .apks as I saw fit. Now with the MTS it seems I can't remove anything that came preinstalled.
So far I have tried removing some .apks from CMD as well as through clockwork recovery with no luck.
One of the steps I have taken
C:\Android\Tools\adb shell
#mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
#rm /system/app/stock.apk
rm failed for /system/app/stock.apk, Directory not empty
#
Any help would be appreciated.
And yes, I have searched and still have not found a working method.
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You can not write to system while booted normally, the SPL security on this phone does not allow it. You need to have flashed the engineering ROM, then boot in to clockwork mod, mount /system, then enter your shell and delete the apps.

falken98 said:
You can not write to system while booted normally, the SPL security on this phone does not allow it. You need to have flashed the engineering ROM, then boot in to clockwork mod, mount /system, then enter your shell and delete the apps.
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Unfortunately I have tried this as well as the previous suggestion. Have you done so successfully?

mmmark111 said:
I wasn't sure if it would be appropriate to post this question here but I have seen more asinine threads posted so why not.
I come from a rooted Behold 2. With that phone I could navigate to the /system/app and delete and replace .apks as I saw fit. Now with the MTS it seems I can't remove anything that came preinstalled.
So far I have tried removing some .apks from CMD as well as through clockwork recovery with no luck.
One of the steps I have taken
C:\Android\Tools\adb shell
#mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
#rm /system/app/stock.apk
rm failed for /system/app/stock.apk, Directory not empty
#
Any help would be appreciated.
And yes, I have searched and still have not found a working method.
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I tried everything it didn't work flash new roms

Can you just do a nandroid of stock then pull them from the nandroid and reflash it ?
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mmmark111 said:
Unfortunately I have tried this as well as the previous suggestion. Have you done so successfully?
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You have flashed the engineering rom at some point in time, booted in to clockwork recovery, mounted /system, entered the shell(while still in clockwork) and then tried to remove files from /system/app/ and it didn't work?
It works fine as long as all those steps all followed. Did you get any errors?

there is an option in clockwork called partition menu, you must mount system using the partition menu as the other way does not work for some reason, after that you can adb shell and rm the apps you do not want, or if you like i can send you my ROM with the bloat removed

[Q] Question about flashing SenseGinger by team villain

Hello,
My name is Iris, but you guys can call me Rezz7
I am new to the forum, not to XDA I come here often (long story)
I have a T-Mobile G2 phone that I used Visionary to gain temp root, then I went this route to perm root:
Instructions:
1. The first step is to install Terminal Emulator and a file manager from the Marketplace, such as, Astro file manager.
2. Now insert the SD card to your computer and unzip the “root_files.zip” file (download link given at the bottom of this post) to this SD card (a directory will be created called root_files on the card). When done, unmount the SD card from your computer. Make sure that all the extracted files are directly inside the root_files folder and not in another subfolder inside it.
3. Enable unknown sources (under Settings –> Applications) and USB Debugging (under Settings –> Applications –> Development).
4. Using the file manager (we are using Astro file manager), navigate to the root_files directory on the SD card (created in step 2), and select “com.modaco.visionaryplus.r14.apk” to install the Visionary app.
5. Launch the Visionary app and click on “Temproot now”. Leave the other settings unchecked. Visionary Desire Z Temp Rooting Desire Z
6. Start the terminal app and type the following commands:
$ su
# cp /sdcard/root_files/perm_root /data/local/perm_root
# chmod 777 /data/local*
# /data/local/perm_root
With this ROM: SenseGinger by TeamVillain.v3
I come here often to read on stuff, but see I come from the iphone world, jailbreaking and unlocking is waay more simple than android. Eh!
Ok so my question is the following. I have ROM MANAGER and the phone's recovery is ClockWorkMod Recovery, I downloaded the SenseGinger to the SDCARD, I wipe data, cache and tried to load from SD. I see META-INF
and a system but ....? what am I missing. Where is the big boot?
HEEEELP please
Thanks

what do you mean you tried to load from sd? you need to select flash rom from sd from the rom manager program. your phone will then reboot and start to flash the rom. thats all you need to do.

Hirabi12 said:
Hello,
My name is Iris, but you guys can call me Rezz7
I am new to the forum, not to XDA I come here often (long story)
I have a T-Mobile G2 phone that I used Visionary to gain temp root, then I went this route to perm root:
Instructions:
1. The first step is to install Terminal Emulator and a file manager from the Marketplace, such as, Astro file manager.
2. Now insert the SD card to your computer and unzip the “root_files.zip” file (download link given at the bottom of this post) to this SD card (a directory will be created called root_files on the card). When done, unmount the SD card from your computer. Make sure that all the extracted files are directly inside the root_files folder and not in another subfolder inside it.
3. Enable unknown sources (under Settings –> Applications) and USB Debugging (under Settings –> Applications –> Development).
4. Using the file manager (we are using Astro file manager), navigate to the root_files directory on the SD card (created in step 2), and select “com.modaco.visionaryplus.r14.apk” to install the Visionary app.
5. Launch the Visionary app and click on “Temproot now”. Leave the other settings unchecked. Visionary Desire Z Temp Rooting Desire Z
6. Start the terminal app and type the following commands:
$ su
# cp /sdcard/root_files/perm_root /data/local/perm_root
# chmod 777 /data/local*
# /data/local/perm_root
With this ROM: SenseGinger by TeamVillain.v3
I come here often to read on stuff, but see I come from the iphone world, jailbreaking and unlocking is waay more simple than android. Eh!
Ok so my question is the following. I have ROM MANAGER and the phone's recovery is ClockWorkMod Recovery, I downloaded the SenseGinger to the SDCARD, I wipe data, cache and tried to load from SD. I see META-INF
and a system but ....? what am I missing. Where is the big boot?
HEEEELP please
Thanks
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Sounds like you unzipped the file, you need to keep it zipped and chose the install from sdcard option from recovery
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OriginalGabriel said:
Sounds like you unzipped the file, you need to keep it zipped and chose the install from sdcard option from recovery
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Thanks to the both users that answered. I will try with the zipped file. If not... I will take a break... lol

Almost the ere, but see, it did not flash the rom it said aborted (SIGH)
^^^^FAILED

you didn't just rezip it did you?
try downloading a fresh copy of the .zip file

lil-devil said:
you didn't just rezip it did you?
try downloading a fresh copy of the .zip file
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I will try that....
Thanks.
I really want to learn all this phone flashing stuff .... I used to change my old iphone all the time,I get bored of things quick. Hopefully all you smarties can be my "mentors" til I become android smart like yall.

Hirabi12 said:
I will try that....
Thanks.
I really want to learn all this phone flashing stuff .... I used to change my old iphone all the time,I get bored of things quick. Hopefully all you smarties can be my "mentors" til I become android smart like yall.
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Do you have root explorer ? It's a great tool to have for rooted devices also if you happen to unzip it again you can use that to re-zip the file (if you have a slow internet connection, i think this way would be faster than downloading the rom again)
ALSO i suggest you try Virtuous rom first because not everything is working on Senseginger yet (i know so sad eh)

heema88 said:
Do you have root explorer ? It's a great tool to have for rooted devices also if you happen to unzip it again you can use that to re-zip the file (if you have a slow internet connection, i think this way would be faster than downloading the rom again)
ALSO i suggest you try Virtuous rom first because not everything is working on Senseginger yet (i know so sad eh)
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Thanks for your advice. Sad? Nooo its tragic, lol.
Right now I have a mega slow connection. Im on a fam plan. I have a nexus one that had an ota like over a month ago for 2.3.3, the g2 im rooting, and my brother has another g2 that im supposed to root.
My interent connection is more than slow. I usually use the nexus one as wifi, or use my brother's phone and mine for the 4g however tmobile is throttling us because we capped our data at 5GB though we have unlimited data, so downloading that senseginger is a pain... that tool you recommended will be useful in the future. Thanks.
I dont know where else to get roms from, I found a few for the G2 from the unlockr website. But I will research what you recommended.

Hirabi12 said:
I dont know where else to get roms from, I found a few for the G2 from the unlockr website. But I will research what you recommended.
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You can view the various roms available in the development sub-forum under the G2 Header. This thread has a list of roms and links to them (as well as various guides and kernels).
Browse and play around with the roms, give them a chance and find out what features you like best. They've all got pros and cons. CM7 (Cyanogenmod 7) is a non sense-based rom that is pretty popular and a stable build was released a few days ago.

takram said:
You can view the various roms available in the development sub-forum under the G2 Header. This thread has a list of roms and links to them (as well as various guides and kernels).
Browse and play around with the roms, give them a chance and find out what features you like best. They've all got pros and cons. CM7 (Cyanogenmod 7) is a non sense-based rom that is pretty popular and a stable build was released a few days ago.
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Thanks Takram.
Im a bit familiar with Cyanogenmod my ex modded his nexus one all the time. I have had anexus for over a year n never modded it, now i have both the g2 n the nexus. I was afraid bc I used to see my ex flash his phone all the time n it looked so complicated just like he would say that jailbreaking iphone is hard.
:-/ But i will start playing with different roms n stuff. Thanks for the link

Ok... It seems to be working, guys. Thanks to every single one of you. I would have never been able to solve this on my own.
What do you guys know about data throttle? Is there any way to by pass it? I mean we all pay unlimited data, plus the extra for 4g, and the extra for tethering. We should not get throttled...

Hirabi12 said:
Ok... It seems to be working, guys. Thanks to every single one of you. I would have never been able to solve this on my own.
What do you guys know about data throttle? Is there any way to by pass it? I mean we all pay unlimited data, plus the extra for 4g, and the extra for tethering. We should not get throttled...
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There are a few threads about this already but the quick answer is no. Tmo is throttle on they're end now so unless someone's hacks tmo there is nothing you can do. I would call and complaine though.
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shortlived said:
There are a few threads about this already but the quick answer is no. Tmo is throttle on they're end now so unless someone's hacks tmo there is nothing you can do. I would call and complaine though.
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Yea I have. :-X They are just butts about it.

King size BUG in SenseGinger
I have installed this rom on my G2 like 2-3 days ago.... and this super bug started today. I had to make a call to activate a bank card, so I dial the bank's number, and so when I have to press one for english the phone crashes! I have tried robooting the phone, I deleted the cahe, wiped the user, reinstalled the rom... same issue.
Giant Bug, though we confuse our phones this days with computers, gps or flashlights the truth is... that its a phone .... and lol well, if you can you can't use the phone feature lol ... i find it funny. Kinda' ironic.

Which version you running? They just released a new version about that time.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983991 This one

shortlived said:
Which version you running? They just released a new version about that time.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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???? help???

I know there was a temporary patch that was attached to a post on page 67 that will fix that problem. You basically need to replace the phone.apk.. im personally staying on the old version until they get overclocking on the new version. Also the older version runs flawlessly on my g2 so i really didnt see any reason to upgrade.
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HMM I hear you. I can't say it runs flawlessly. Mines freezes a bit, or it doesn't react quickly. When I slide the notifications down it takes me like two or 3 touches to get them to slide down. Or going through screens it freezes sometimes. But its not something that I can't live with. The thing about the phone kills the mobile network. I have to reboot the phone for it to come back.
Sometimes if you let it sit like 5 minutes the mobile network comes back on its own.... I mean not flawless, the phone app issue is most annoying though. Thank God I wasn't stranded somewhere needing to activate my bank card.

Live Wallpapers

Hey all,
Live Wallpapers have been pulled from XDAndroid builds for a while. They do slow the device down, but they are eye candy... and I know everyone loves a little eye candy now and then.
So follow these steps if you want to give Live Wallpapers a whirl. I've included two (Starfield and the Matrix) but there are many, many more you can download once they are enabled... No guarantees any of them work, and again - This will slow down your phone, you've been warned!
Onto the directions:
Two methods - on the phone directly, or thru adb. Either way, you need to grab the .zip file (attached) and extract the files to your SD card. In reality you only need LiveWallpapersPicker.apk to enable the feature, but if you don't have any Live Wallpapers in mind, grab the other two APK's and put them on your SD as well.
First method - adb
Press enter after each entry...
Code:
adb shell
Code:
su
Code:
mount -o,remount rw /system
Code:
mv /sdcard/LiveWallpapersPicker.apk /system/app
Repeat the last step for livewallpaper.starfield.apk and livewallpaper.matrix.apk if you wish. Obviously the commands are assuming the APK's are at the root of your SD card - change the path if you placed the APK's in a different location.
Finally,
Code:
mount -o,remount ro /system
Second method - on the phone.
You need Terminal Emulator or ConnectBot. Connect to a local (root) shell.
I was going to make a separate section for this, but in reality it's the same steps as above - minus the adb shell part. Again, if you place the APK's at the root of the SD card - no folders - the above directions verbatim will work on the phone itself. Enjoy!
Feel free to use this thread to share your experiences and favorite Live Wallpapers - especially if you find one that works better than others, etc.
PS - In case you're unsure, once you've done this (no need to reboot) you should be able to long press on the desktop and go to "Wallpapers". You should now have a new option, "Live wallpapers".

Figured I would add my experience to kick things off.
mgross029 inspired me to try Live Wallpapers again, because of Go Weather. Pretty cool weather app, with a nifty Live Wallpaper for sure!

arrrghhh said:
Figured I would add my experience to kick things off.
mgross029 inspired me to try Live Wallpapers again, because of Go Weather. Pretty cool weather app, with a nifty Live Wallpaper for sure!
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Combine this with tweaks from arrrghhh's speed improvement thread and WOW! My TP2 is running better than it ever did in WM!
Your results may very!

Iv tried making this work, (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256011) but i cant seem to get it to work at all.
Im using a RHOD300 (tilt 2)
i downloaded the
Attached Files
LiveWallpapers.zip - [Click for QR Code] (347.8 KB, 45 views)
extracted them to my desktop, then placed them into the root of my SD card, then I ran haret and booted into android, then without going into terminal emulator i decided to see if i had a livewallpapers option just for kicks, and there was! but it kept force closing. then i loaded up terminal emulator and followed the steps (noted that im doing the "on phone" method) and sure enough there was indeed a new "live wallpapers" selector. however, whenever i try to use a live wallpaper, it force closes. (i even tried using livewallpapers i downloaded from the market, but that didnt work either) after rebooting to see if that was the problem, the same instance occured.
Thinking of a workaround, i saw that they were .apk files, so i this time placed them into the android app folder (where all the other .apk files are) and hoped that would work. and it didnt. So im at a loss as to what im doing wrong.
Also, by on phone method i assume that meaning downloading from your pc to your phone. not going to this page and downloading it to your phone
Any help would be much appreciated!
Edit: i dont think this would make much of a difference, but im using GO launcher ex from the market.

A cool username said:
Iv tried making this work, (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256011) but i cant seem to get it to work at all.
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Well if you can select Live Wallpapers, you've done the steps correctly. If it's just FC'ing, I guess try a new data.img. Rename the old one to data.bak so you can easily revert to it.
This is experimental, and really a complete waste of time and resources - on the phone as well as your own . But I figured I would put it out there because so many were asking how...

arrrghhh said:
Well if you can select Live Wallpapers, you've done the steps correctly. If it's just FC'ing, I guess try a new data.img. Rename the old one to data.bak so you can easily revert to it.
This is experimental, and really a complete waste of time and resources - on the phone as well as your own . But I figured I would put it out there because so many were asking how...
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I was actually just trying that, and i'll be damned, it works! now all i have to do is try it with my other data.img
Edit" cant help but notice the added mv /sdcard/LiveWallpapersPicker.apk /system/app
i think that was my problem trying it with my other data.img now

A cool username said:
Edit" cant help but notice the added mv /sdcard/LiveWallpapersPicker.apk /system/app
i think that was my problem trying it with my other data.img now
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Heh, yea... I realized that wasn't in there and probably could trip people up. I didn't think that was your issue, since you could actually pick LiveWallpapers.

arrrghhh said:
Heh, yea... I realized that wasn't in there and probably could trip people up. I didn't think that was your issue, since you could actually pick LiveWallpapers.
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I think the only reason why i could was because i put it in android apps with the other .apk files one time and then deleted it. After i did that the phone seemed to remember it was there after i deleted it and continued to have a livewallpaper option even after i deleted it. so thats why it wont work on the other data.img.

[Q][S-ON] screwing around with Wildfire S

I posted this here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18647176&postcount=14 - but never got an answer so I'm posting it to its own thread. I would post to the development section but apparently until I clutter up the place with 10 posts I'm considered a drooling idiot.
I was playing around and I noticed that the problem is with s-on I cannot write to /system meaning no superuser etc. So I remembered from way back when I started linux you could mount over a mounted folder. So I made a small file, put ext3 on on it, transferred it to the sdcard and mounted over /system with
mount -t ext3 -o rw,loop /mnt/sdcard/test.dump /system
it worked and then of course I lost all commands (ls, reboot...) in the shell.
Would it be possible to dump /system with "cat /dev/mtd/mtd3 > /mnt/sdcard/system.img", extract it, put it in an ext3 file, mount it as readable over system and just go to town?
Somebody MUST have tried this in the past. Before I go any further can anyone tell me why this wouldn't work and save me a few hours noodling around lol

baconbacon said:
I posted this here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18647176&postcount=14 - but never got an answer so I'm posting it to its own thread. I would post to the development section but apparently until I clutter up the place with 10 posts I'm considered a drooling idiot.
I was playing around and I noticed that the problem is with s-on I cannot write to /system meaning no superuser etc. So I remembered from way back when I started linux you could mount over a mounted folder. So I made a small file, put ext3 on on it, transferred it to the sdcard and mounted over /system with
mount -t ext3 -o rw,loop /mnt/sdcard/test.dump /system
it worked and then of course I lost all commands (ls, reboot...) in the shell.
Would it be possible to dump /system with "cat /dev/mtd/mtd3 > /mnt/sdcard/system.img", extract it, put it in an ext3 file, mount it as readable over system and just go to town?
Somebody MUST have tried this in the past. Before I go any further can anyone tell me why this wouldn't work and save me a few hours noodling around lol
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S-on itself got nothing to do with rooting. It just means you can't flash unsigned images as much as I know.
That system is mounted as ro is also at rooted phones the standard behaviour, you have to remount it as rw, but without root it won't accomplish I think.
Cat is for text files not for binaries or whole partitions, to extract the image use the dd command.
Do you have an /dev/mtd folder? My partitions are at /dev/block and there is no /dev/mtd present.
Swyped from my HTC Desire S

Tectas said:
S-on itself got nothing to do with rooting. It just means you can't flash unsigned images as much as I know.
That system is mounted as ro is also at rooted phones the standard behaviour, you have to remount it as rw, but without root it won't accomplish I think.
Cat is for text files not for binaries or whole partitions, to extract the image use the dd command.
Do you have an /dev/mtd folder? My partitions are at /dev/block and there is no /dev/mtd present.
Swyped from my HTC Desire S
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This issue is that when you remount it as rw you cannot write to it. I want to know if I make my own partitions and mount them after boot if that will work, probably slower but work. This is so lojack I doubt it will work, I just want to know if anyone tried it.
Also "Cat is for text files not for binaries or whole partitions" is wrong, it works fine.

baconbacon said:
This issue is that when you remount it as rw you cannot write to it. I want to know if I make my own partitions and mount them after boot if that will work, probably slower but work. This is so lojack I doubt it will work, I just want to know if anyone tried it.
Also "Cat is for text files not for binaries or whole partitions" is wrong, it works fine.
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Then it's not rw, because rw stands for read write, but like I said without root...
And no I think no one tried it before, because using an xtc-clip is compared to your solution much less work
But if you want to try it, do it and share your experiences, maybe it helps others
That cat works doesn't mean that it's made for it, you can also hunt for birds with a bazooka
Take a look at cat and dd and choose yourself.

Tectas said:
Then it's not rw, because rw stands for read write, but like I said without root...
And no I think no one tried it before, because using an xtc-clip is compared to your solution much less work
But if you want to try it, do it and share your experiences, maybe it helps others
That cat works doesn't mean that it's made for it, you can also hunt for birds with a bazooka
Take a look at cat and dd and choose yourself.
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is xtc-clip better? yes, not arguing that. is cat is better then dd? no, I said cat works in this instance the same as dd, the results will be the identical.
I didn't ask this question to argue unrelated linux 101. I'm just going to look into this myself. iow screw you guys, im going home...

Dude, I use Linux too though I'm probably not a guru. I think I understand what you're saying... but if I do, aren't you just talking about editing a copy of /system? How would you mount your edited partition at boot?
Time permitting, I could try a few tricks but I'm not willing to risk bricking my phone though. I'd be stranded without it.
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First don't blame others, because of things I wrote.
I never said it couldn't work, I just wanted to show you that there are better ways to do it, cause cat also tries to interpret the file and not only copies it, what could mess up your image in some cases.
Also be aware that if your using the same data and cache partition with both of your systems, it could be easy bricked, if you change to much at your 2. system and remember that there aren't many ways left to get it working again cause your still s-on.
I think he wants to mount it himself every time after boot.
If he can root his 2. system (but all by hand, I think) he maybe can mount his 1. system as rw and also root it, but the chance that something goes wrong is pretty high, even mounting itself could freeze the device, cause the first system is still in memory.
I'm also not even close to be a Linux guru.
Swyped from my HTC Desire S

Link to bash

Hey-
I've been playing around with the shell, installed bash 3.2 according to this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537827
aaaand I was trying to make a link from /system/bin/sh to /sdcard/bash but it didn't take. The reason I want to do that is because I'm experimenting with bash 4.1 and it hasn't quite worked. But when my shell breaks I have to wait for a restore because I can't get write access to the dang /system folder (I guess you need the shell for that).
I know it's not that huge of a deal to have it all in the /system folder once it's how I want it, but I'm going to be playing with other stuff too (bash_profile, etc) and it's a bit of a pain doing the whole trial/error thing. Well, at least with how long it takes. I'm doing trial/error anyway.
So my question is why wouldn't that link work? I know I'd set the link up correctly, tried it several times in case I had a typo. Maybe I just don't understand symlinks like I think I do. I tested also something where I tried to make a link within only the /sdcard folder (always writeable no matter what, thinking that had something to do with it) and just got "operation not permitted". But on my linux box a link between directories is totally cool. Not sure what the difference is. Any help appreciated.

Something else I'm seeing that I really don't understand is that I can create links just not that have to do with my /sdcard partition. I can't even change permissions in /sdcard. From ADB. I run as root:
chmod 0644 filename
and it's as if it accepts the command, but perms stay the same. I did it not as root but it said operation denied. Why if I've got root can't I do some of these operations in /sdcard?

Scooterx3 said:
Hey-
I've been playing around with the shell, installed bash 3.2 according to this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537827
aaaand I was trying to make a link from /system/bin/sh to /sdcard/bash but it didn't take. The reason I want to do that is because I'm experimenting with bash 4.1 and it hasn't quite worked. But when my shell breaks I have to wait for a restore because I can't get write access to the dang /system folder (I guess you need the shell for that).
I know it's not that huge of a deal to have it all in the /system folder once it's how I want it, but I'm going to be playing with other stuff too (bash_profile, etc) and it's a bit of a pain doing the whole trial/error thing. Well, at least with how long it takes. I'm doing trial/error anyway.
So my question is why wouldn't that link work? I know I'd set the link up correctly, tried it several times in case I had a typo. Maybe I just don't understand symlinks like I think I do. I tested also something where I tried to make a link within only the /sdcard folder (always writeable no matter what, thinking that had something to do with it) and just got "operation not permitted". But on my linux box a link between directories is totally cool. Not sure what the difference is. Any help appreciated.
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it's about a fat32 part? then will not work
You should post a log

Thanks, I was poking around somewhere and saw that other people have had problems if it's using a windows format. However, I'm burning my brains out trying to figure out how to see what format it uses and how to then change the format. It's the Samsung Galaxy S, and it's an internal memory card. I wouldn't think I could format it from my computer, it's not removable. Or else I'd have found out already using gparted or something (in fact I tried, said 'unallocated' is all). I *perhaps* could use gparted to format it as ext4 or whatever though, but I'm not sure the effect that'll have. I'd have to do some research.
In any case, I'd love to post a log but I'm not sure what log that is that you're referring to, would you mind telling me how to get that?

Scooterx3 said:
Thanks, I was poking around somewhere and saw that other people have had problems if it's using a windows format. However, I'm burning my brains out trying to figure out how to see what format it uses and how to then change the format. It's the Samsung Galaxy S, and it's an internal memory card. I wouldn't think I could format it from my computer, it's not removable. Or else I'd have found out already using gparted or something (in fact I tried, said 'unallocated' is all). I *perhaps* could use gparted to format it as ext4 or whatever though, but I'm not sure the effect that'll have. I'd have to do some research.
In any case, I'd love to post a log but I'm not sure what log that is that you're referring to, would you mind telling me how to get that?
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If you work in adb post console output the same if you made that symlink from phone shell
do not forget to switch to root ("su" command )
by this you get part info
Code:
cat /proc/mtd
or system log here
Code:
adb logcat -d > logcat.txt
- it's saved to adb folder
(do not blame me if you already know these things)
also here is an interesting thread
maybe that part is mounted as read-only ?
make things simple as possible use Root Explorer/ES File Explorer (just tap screen to mount r-w)

Thanks, I liked that article you'd mentioned. Though I also tried the suggestion that was provided when I realized that /sdcard/ is really just /mnt/sdcard/ but still no dice.
I checked those logs, didn't see anything relevant. They're attached so if I just don't know what I'm looking for then someone would see it?
The /sdcard isn't read only, I'm able to write files to it.
I'm thinking really that it's just a windows format, but I still haven't an idea how to actually prove that, nor do I know how to format it for linux. Again- it's not removable. Anyway, if there's something that I need to see in the log, it'd be appreciated if you could point it out to me, thanks.

Scooterx3 said:
I'm thinking really that it's just a windows format, but I still haven't an idea how to actually prove that, nor do I know how to format it for linux. Again- it's not removable. Anyway, if there's something that I need to see in the log, it'd be appreciated if you could point it out to me, thanks.
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-nothing interesting in log file
(a mount/df output is better here)
-also post this problem in Galaxy S I9000 sub-forum
I think your internal sdcard is vfat-type then try to format as ext4-type
here is a good article on this problem