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Everyone should check this thread, as it seems to be the general feeling I've seen all over xda lately. New members could learn something just by reading what is expected/accepted from xda forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476671

Completly agree showaco
Let´s hope a lot of members can read that

wow thanks for pointing that out show, only read first page so far as it silly o'clock, the same goes for general questions as the more savy user has to see, repetative bull over and over, maybe it's time that XDA made some kind of enrolement first implented task how to use the search, then how to read more than the one page of a thread that the question asked could be covered 2 ~ 5 pages earlier, oh and make people fill out there signature with device info as i'm sure lots of members think we have the power of mind reading...
Oh and how not to quote the whole first post inc images when replying or asking that silly question.
Good morning all

stylez said:
wow thanks for pointing that out show, only read first page so far as it silly o'clock, the same goes for general questions as the more savy user has to see, repetative bull over and over, maybe it's time that XDA made some kind of enrolement first implented task how to use the search, then how to read more than the one page of a thread that the question asked could be covered 2 ~ 5 pages earlier, oh and make people fill out there signature with device info as i'm sure lots of members think we have the power of mind reading...
Oh and how not to quote the whole first post inc images when replying or asking that silly question.
Good morning all
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Oh, my God, it's that Brit chiming in with his two cents (pence).
I flashed my phone with the stylezrickynrgkavanashowaco 3.14 and now my phone thinks it's a dessert and it's making my hands sticky. WTF?

thousandlegs said:
Oh, my God, it's that Brit chiming in with his two cents (pence).
I flashed my phone with the stylezrickynrgkavanashowaco 3.14 and now my phone thinks it's a dessert and it's making my hands sticky. WTF?
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I never wrote that....
As for the ROM you'll have to speak to show probably one of his morts.. JK

stylez said:
wow thanks for pointing that out show, only read first page so far as it silly o'clock, the same goes for general questions as the more savy user has to see, repetative bull over and over, maybe it's time that XDA made some kind of enrolement first implented task how to use the search, then how to read more than the one page of a thread that the question asked could be covered 2 ~ 5 pages earlier, oh and make people fill out there signature with device info as i'm sure lots of members think we have the power of mind reading...
Oh and how not to quote the whole first post inc images when replying or asking that silly question.
Good morning all
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I agree with this, all I've been seeing lately are pointless threads made by newbs with a 1-10 post record that don't take the time to search and just want the people to give them the answers to all thier issues. I myself have found answers to some of them within a minute with our search feature, that if they would've used the search , they wouldn't needed to post dumb questions that they could've answer themselfs only if they took the time to seach and do a little reading.

thousandlegs said:
Oh, my God, it's that Brit chiming in with his two cents (pence).
I flashed my phone with the stylezrickynrgkavanashowaco 3.14 and now my phone thinks it's a dessert and it's making my hands sticky. WTF?
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stylez said:
I never wrote that....
As for the ROM you'll have to speak to show probably one of his morts.. JK
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Hey now, its not my fault that your phones can't run all the cool stuff and gets sticky when you watch your porn on wmp
roloracer said:
I agree with this, all I've been seeing lately are pointless threads made by newbs with a 1-10 post record that don't take the time to search and just want the people to give them the answers to all thier issues. I myself have found answers to some of them within a minute with our search feature, that if they would've used the search , they wouldn't needed to post dumb questions that they could've answer themselfs only if they took the time to seach and do a little reading.
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Exactly, but looking at response of this thread, I guess the 5 people posting in this thread are the only ones here in this forum that care whats going on. Which means the rest must be the enemy

showaco said:
Hey now, its not my fault that your phones can't run all the cool stuff and gets sticky when you watch your porn on wmp
Exactly, but looking at response of this thread, I guess the 5 people posting in this thread are the only ones here in this forum that care whats going on. Which means the rest must be the enemy
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This thread ftw.
In all seriousness, there is a lot to be learned from the OP link. Flashing roms is easy and people who don't need to be doing it are. I'm no chef and, God forbid, I f-up my phone I know it's my fault.
Everyone should use caution. These roms are not put out to screw up your device but stupidity and an inability to follow directions to a T will. You do take your device into your own hands, literally and figuratively, when you do these kinds of modifications.
The rewards of a tweak gone right can only be equalled by the risks of the same tweak when done by inexperienced users.
HOLY SH**! I didn't mean to write a dissertation there.

showaco said:
Exactly, but looking at response of this thread, I guess the 5 people posting in this thread are the only ones here in this forum that care whats going on. Which means the rest must be the enemy
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"It's all out War" ​

The first thing I found when I came on tonight was a new thread with a new member on his/her first post asking that just flashed 6.1 and can't add the sounds for text messages. Honestly, somehow they should block new members from creating new threads until they have at least a 50+ post score, that would make them use the SEARCH feature and get involved in ongoing threads instead of creating a thread with a question that it has been answered or its a working issue that other people are discussing on a different thread. I don't want to be a prick to new guys, cause I was there before, but I always took the time to use the most apparently elusive feature that is called SEARCH

roloracer said:
The first thing I found when I came on tonight was a new thread with a new member on his/her first post asking that just flashed 6.1 and can't add the sounds for text messages. Honestly, somehow they should block new members from creating new threads until they have at least a 50+ post score, that would make them use the SEARCH feature and get involved in ongoing threads instead of creating a thread with a question that it has been answered or its a working issue that other people are discussing on a different thread. I don't want to be a prick to new guys, cause I was there before, but I always took the time to use the most apparently elusive feature that is called SEARCH
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yeah I agree (postcount++)
edit: crap I'm only at 14 posts :-\

I don't agree with post count policy, 'cause I've seen some with almost no posts start a thread with some of the greatest/tools software for xda. We probably would have never gotten them if we had limited the authors til 50 posts. Someone had mentioned a rating, where a post/thread could be deleted by a certain number of members voting a rating against it. Sadly, in the end, there is probably nothing we can do to stop the stupid posts and still keep the possibility of a great "noob" post that we need.

showaco said:
I don't agree with post count policy, 'cause I've seen some with almost no posts start a thread with some of the greatest/tools software for xda. We probably would have never gotten them if we had limited the authors til 50 posts. Someone had mentioned a rating, where a post/thread could be deleted by a certain number of members voting a rating against it. Sadly, in the end, there is probably nothing we can do to stop the stupid posts and still keep the possibility of a great "noob" post that we need.
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That's fine, the post count thing was just an idea, we just need to figure out a way to encourage new people to search , and ask questions .

roloracer said:
That's fine, the post count thing was just an idea, we just need to figure out a way to encourage new people to search , and ask questions .
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Naked chicks on the search page... TWEAKED
Oh and another rank "The Cleaners"

stylez said:
Naked chicks on the search page... TWEAKED
Oh and another rank "The Cleaners"
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Yeahh I love naked chicks maybe some boobage on the search feature, (touch here newbes)

roloracer said:
Yeahh I love naked chicks maybe some boobage on the search feature, (touch here newbes)
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I'm pretty sure we'd all still be noobs if there were boobs involved.
Boobs 4 Noobs @ XDA-Developers FTMFW!!!
w00t!

We must've been the only ones that care about this issue cause out of 254 views only 6 people cared enough to post and talk about it. That's sad
Oh well, at least we know some of us care.

roloracer said:
We must've been the only ones that care about this issue cause out of 254 views only 6 people cared enough to post and talk about it. That's sad
Oh well, at least we know some of us care.
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I care, roloracer, I care. *tear*
Seriously though, the board is rife with posts like "I just flashed (xx.xx) and now my keyboard buttons dont work right." or "Can I use this on my i880?" or "I REEELY NEED TO FOR HAVE SOMEONE UNLOCK MY DASHES SO THAT I CAN USE IT ON THE (non t-mobile) NETWORK?"

thousandlegs said:
I care, roloracer, I care. *tear*
Seriously though, the board is rife with posts like "I just flashed (xx.xx) and now my keyboard buttons dont work right." or "Can I use this on my i880?" or "I REEELY NEED TO FOR HAVE SOMEONE UNLOCK MY DASHES SO THAT I CAN USE IT ON THE (non t-mobile) NETWORK?"
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Yes it's a mess of idiosyncratic posts, how lazy can people be???
Oh peeps are just unbelievable like that locking thread i posted i could unlock Dash with a pic of a lighter, well guess what the PM's came a rollin...
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Where is that thread we used to put the numptys?​

stylez said:
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PMSL,TISFSMF
(pissed myself laughing, that is some funny sh1t mother ****er)

Post Limit for Experienced Developer

Hi, great forums and flashed a few ROMS now from the great cooks on the site.
I have one small gripe however, i am a software engineer and interested in Android apps specifically integration with mono and WCF web services. I couldnt find anything on the site so i went to post - but couldnt becuase of post limit.
I understand the need for it to filter out less sensible question, or at least make people search before they write, but very frustrating in other cases.
Just my 5 pence worth.
Cheers,
Chris

If you feel you should be exempted from this rule, post your development in a general section and Private Message a Moderator and ask them to move it to the development section. If your work fits the bill we will be more than happy to help you out.

JimmyMcGee said:
If you feel you should be exempted from this rule, post your development in a general section and Private Message a Moderator and ask them to move it to the development section. If your work fits the bill we will be more than happy to help you out.
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His join date is December 2010. He should be exempted from the rule anyway. Only users who joined this year should be affected by the ten posts rule. I'm sure someone could fix his account for him.

Awesome! Welcome to the XDA!

Only 2 more posts and I can't post as well!!

cajunflavoredbob said:
His join date is December 2010. He should be exempted from the rule anyway. Only users who joined this year should be affected by the ten posts rule. I'm sure someone could fix his account for him.
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You do have a point. If he is having this issue he should contact the Administrator MikeChannon so he can troubleshoot the issue.

JimmyMcGee said:
If you feel you should be exempted from this rule, post your development in a general section and Private Message a Moderator and ask them to move it to the development section. If your work fits the bill we will be more than happy to help you out.
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Hey, thanks for this helpful tip.

g18c said:
Hi, great forums and flashed a few ROMS now from the great cooks on the site.
I have one small gripe however, i am a software engineer and interested in Android apps specifically integration with mono and WCF web services. I couldnt find anything on the site so i went to post - but couldnt becuase of post limit.
I understand the need for it to filter out less sensible question, or at least make people search before they write, but very frustrating in other cases.
Just my 5 pence worth.
Cheers,
Chris
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Why would you be asking a question in a development forum? (unless you wanted to ask in a thread that already exists).

Same error

g18c said:
Hi, great forums and flashed a few ROMS now from the great cooks on the site.
I have one small gripe however, i am a software engineer and interested in Android apps specifically integration with mono and WCF web services. I couldnt find anything on the site so i went to post - but couldnt becuase of post limit.
I understand the need for it to filter out less sensible question, or at least make people search before they write, but very frustrating in other cases.
Just my 5 pence worth.
Cheers,
Chris
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youve been on xda for 6 years, yes 6. you need 10 posts to be able to post in other sections and so on. how the f**k can you not post 10 posts on xda in 6 years? seriously. deal with it, and post a few more. ive been on xda for 7 years. yes, one more year than you, yet i have 34,050 posts. grow up, and become a big boy now.
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cajunflavoredbob said:
His join date is December 2010. He should be exempted from the rule anyway. Only users who joined this year should be affected by the ten posts rule. I'm sure someone could fix his account for him.
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he joined in december 2010, and can not hit 10 posts. he SHOULD NOT be exempted, ever. its been 6 years and he still hasnt learned how to post.
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oh, lol! i see his post is from 2011. someone brought up a dead thread
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vinylz said:
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you dont bring up dead threads from 5 years ago, seriously.

Awesome ics aura v2

where is the "Awesome ----ics aura v2----- " thread, can't find it.
"The deadly coder's thread"
Thanks

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The aura 2 thread is deleted

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NanoSurfer said:
deadly coder my a$$
probably some wannabe 12 year old kid who doesn't even have a clue about coding.
Just another thanks gatherer.
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Didn't he make ice aura v1?:confused

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Hey Guys
I spoke to deadlyCoder over PM and he says that there was a misunderstanding from other devs and they don't want to release it now so he asked the mod to close the thread.
So that's why the thread is closed.
PS: I apologise to theDeadlyCoder for my outrage, I take back everything I said as I was angry, no hard feelings I hope?
Cheers
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You guys might get a surprise by the end of the week, who knows
Please don't pm dev about it, just be patient!
OFF TOPIC:
NOTE TO EVERYONE (and myself): Guys lets respect one another and not discourage others and be horrible about it, how would you feel if that was you on the receiving end? I know some people have been horrible to Ronnie but what good does that do? Why do that???
Anyway I will try to keep the forum and other peoples feelings happy at least from my side. If you do make a mistake, it doesn't cost anything to say "Sorry"

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Rule 1: Don't put your fingers where you wouldn't put your finger.
Rule 2: Don't use toolkits, one clicks, or anything that does the job for you.
Rule 3: If you have a question, it has already been asked, and you will be flammed.
Rule 4: If the question you ask was posted more than 3 months ago, and you post there to elaborate on your specific issue relating to the main topic, you will be flammed for bringing up an archaic thread
Rule 5: Just learn the android tools, once you know them you wont need to ask questions.

funny stuff good job
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I would add this to the list:
Do not ask for Thanks button click.
It's like saying "Hey, I gave you the answer / I helped you, now give me that Thanks you owed me" every time you post something.
Let people thank you the way they want. A "Thanks" from people who took their time to type a reply is as good as a +1 "Thanks" button click, at least for me.

kong said:
I would add this to the list:
Do not ask for Thanks button click.
It's like saying "Hey, I gave you the answer / I helped you, now give me that Thanks you owed me" every time you post something.
Let people thank you the way they want. A "Thanks" from people who took their time to type a reply is as good as a +1 "Thanks" button click, at least for me.
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I can understand why you say that. However, especially for the members who have been here the longest. A "thanks" as a post is considered spam and clogs up threads. The thanks meter was devised as a way to avoid threads with hundreds of posts just saying thanks. If we didn't have this you alone could have 600+ posts just saying thanks to you.

mark manning said:
I can understand why you say that. However, especially for the members who have been here the longest. A "thanks" as a post is considered spam and clogs up threads. The thanks meter was devised as a way to avoid threads with hundreds of posts just saying thanks. If we didn't have this you alone could have 600+ posts just saying thanks to you.
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OK, I can see your point. Then they should change
If I helped you, please remember to click "Thanks" button
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to something like
If you want to thank me, please click the "Thanks" button instead so we won't spam the thread
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PS. I have nothing personally against you / your signature, but I've seen so many threads / signatures asking for "Thanks button click" and it seems very odd to me. It's like some people on XDA only participate / help the others just for their "Thanks" stats :silly: And I believe that would set some weird attitude for the "New users".

kong said:
OK, I can see your point. Then they should change
to something like
PS. I have nothing personally against you / your signature, but I've seen so many threads / signatures asking for "Thanks button click" and it seems very odd to me. It's like some people on XDA only participate / help the others just for their "Thanks" stats :silly: And I believe that would set some weird attitude for the "New users".
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Interesting notion ... I have honestly never thought of it from that point of view. I will take what you said into consideration.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

mark manning said:
I can understand why you say that. However, especially for the members who have been here the longest. A "thanks" as a post is considered spam and clogs up threads. The thanks meter was devised as a way to avoid threads with hundreds of posts just saying thanks. If we didn't have this you alone could have 600+ posts just saying thanks to you.
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Some people actually make spam posts by asking for thanks in a new post whenever they help someone

10 post RULE is it helpful or harmful

There is captcha and 10 post rule to prevent SPAM and stupidity.
Question is if this 10 post rule is harmful or useful?
Personally I find it harmful I and many, I think most people made first 10 stupid posts or just lurking because of this rule.
There is less feedback and more spam posts to get to 10 and more problem related personal messages spamming developers.
Posts "downloading it now" "testing" are meaningless and not punished.
Is it right way? Is there an alternative or chance to lower limit?

I'm on the same opinion.
I registered me here for giving a feedback to a rom developer and then i mentioned that i must make 10 posts to be able to answer in a developer area.

U've got it all wrong mates! Its a very good rule actually.
Read and see for yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069298
There is also a guide in it on how to best use this rule.
"To err is human, to forgive is divine"
Sent from my SGS II

Trust me, it's VERY useful. it might be a little bit of a chore for new users, but in the long term it helps mods and users.
before it was in place, the moderators spent so much of their time cleaning up spam bots or new members posting questions in the wrong (dev) forums. This meant less time was spent dealing with the real important issues.
With this 10 post limit in place, it has really reduced the amount of useless posts, giving mods more time to do what they're here to do

Well I'd like to present you this screenshot:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
(link to the post and thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40101315&postcount=137)
This user has just 2 posts and is able to post in the development section. I have seen this several times and I'd like to know how is it possible? I had to make 10 usefull posts to enter the development section and be able to give feedback to the developers..
Perhaps an idea for the admins here to check it out? I've seen this on several places..

mrjraider said:
Well I'd like to present you this screenshot:
(link to the post and thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40101315&postcount=137)
This user has just 2 posts and is able to post in the development section. I have seen this several times and I'd like to know how is it possible? I had to make 10 usefull posts to enter the development section and be able to give feedback to the developers..
Perhaps an idea for the admins here to check it out? I've seen this on several places..
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I don't know for this particular case, but I have seen this several times before. I have noticed it happen when a user has decided to start doing 10-post spam just to get access to the Development forums. They have then posted in the Dev forum, after which time a Mod has deleted the spam posts they had previously made. This causes them to appear as posting in the Dev forums with less than 10 posts.

SimonTS said:
I don't know for this particular case, but I have seen this several times before. I have noticed it happen when a user has decided to start doing 10-post spam just to get access to the Development forums. They have then posted in the Dev forum, after which time a Mod has deleted the spam posts they had previously made. This causes them to appear as posting in the Dev forums with less than 10 posts.
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Well it is strange. Since I also notice users who made an account on a date (lets say 14 april) get 1 post and be able to post in the development section. If they make 10 spam/useless post to get access to development. Perhaps an idea to delete the post(s) they made at the development?

About these posters, maybe their posts were deleted, but counter still works?
About me 10 posts rule kept me pissed off for 2 years.

Why would anyone feel that basically spamming in order to meet the 10-post limit is a good idea? What's wrong with posting as your first 10 posts meaningful and purposeful ones?
Here at XDA, we tend to think of ourselves as one big helpful community and making nonsense posts just to get what you want makes others feel like you're not serious about this site or what we're trying to do here.

Maybe 10 posts is too much...

10 posts is too much.

10 posts is not too much. Believe me that it can be done within an hour or so, just go to Q&A section and answer few questions. The problem is that some users posts just to say thanks or ask a question in the development thread, which shouldn't be a main goal.
This rule prevents spammers from posting in the development sections and makes our forum much cleaner

I joined this site knowing absolutely nothing about Android. Yet I was able to make ten legitimate posts the first day I joined. If you are so bewildered by Android that you cannot do that it's probably for the best you stay out of posting in the dev forums until you learn more - and it's in your own interest to learn more so you don't brick your device.

IMO, 10 is still less.. People in several threads are making unnecessary posts. I have seen many people who are just making threads / posts for just posting in Dev threads, which are really mean for Devs & there Co-originators.

This has been discussed at least a million times.
Thread reported.

No ones forcing anyone to be here.
Tbh this forum is A LOT more lenient than others I frequent.
If you really need to post that freakin bad go make a fb account!
Read , ask a question , read some more, ask another question, post a helpfull comment here and there... next thing ya know BAM!
Ten posts! :thumbup:
So many reasons but heres the real one:
"Dems da rules!!!!"
:beer:

cippa lippa said:
completely awful this rule...i want to post in one section because i have that smartphone for ex and i'm interested about that area...i can't!i have to write 10 posts...i wrote, i post on (for my example xperia p topics) that area, i helped one person and i shared my opinion with others to improve rom, or to say great job for example, they cancel my post because i think they thought it was spam...!why?it's non sense this rule, blocked just new users like me want to share informations...i don't care about spam, i work, i'm musician, violinist, i don't care to lose time spamming...
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well for one, a few of your posts where 3 words and purely to boost your post count and secondly, one of your posts was made to advertise an app in a thread totally unrelated, hence it was deemed as spam and deleted
Also, as stated, if you do not like this rule you are free to leave, no one is forcing you to stay. We find the 10 post rule is a good measure to prevent spammers and also benefits the site with less clutter of useless posts and people asking repeated questions. All you have to do is help other by answering a few questions in Q&A forums/threads

cippa lippa said:
that's the fact, i'm interested to xperia p thread because other things i really don't know...how can i post to topics i don't know?
ANYWAY ok for some posts, three words (just because i wanted to post in xperia p thread) but you cancel post i helped one user, and post i shared informations very useful to other users! why? this is completely nonsense!
It's not a good phrase say "nobody force you to stay here" or "this is the rule, if you don't like go away", we are talking and share thinking, it's not very useful say that from you
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Guy, making ten helpful posts is not hard, all it takes is a little research and effort.
Sent from the phalanges of my hand to the facet of your cranium.

yes this is stupid. you can have lots of experiances about android but you must write 10 stupid answers/questions
sorry for my bad english
Sent from my Xperia Sola using xda app-developers app

amnesia82 said:
Maybe 10 posts is too much...
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